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Arizona Cardinals Hold of the Seahawks 26-20

Another week, another win for the Arizona Cardinals. Another 300 yard passing game from Kurt Warner and another big game from the best wide receiving duo in the NFL, Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. But this was also another game when they couldn't quite finish off a team on the ropes.

The Cardinals went into the fourth quarter with a seemingly insurmountable lead against the Seahawks yesterday. A six yard screen pass from Kurt Warner to J.J. Arrington on third and goal pushed the Cardinals' lead to 26-7 and it felt like the game was over. The Seahawks though, to their credit, didn't have any thoughts of conceding defeat. They scored two touchdowns in the next ten minutes and were within a single score for over half of the fourth quarter. In the end, both sides of the ball did what they had to do to make the lead stand up. The Cardinals' offense stayed somewhat aggressive picking up first downs via the pass and the run and they held the ball for 7 minutes and 53 seconds of the final 9:41. The defense completely stifled the Hawks, limiting Hasselbeck to 1 of 3 passing for -1 yards and an interception on their final two drives. What does this team have to do though to deliver the proverbial knock blow?

Protect the Football: The Cardinals didn't 'gift wrap' the Seahawks final 14 points but they did make make some bonehead mistakes. The first came when Karlos Dansby picked off Matt Hasselbeck in the end zone and instead of taking a knee, Dansby decide to take off out of the end zone. He was tackled around the ten and lost the ball. Seattle would score five plays later and the next Cardinals drive would last just two plays, ending on a fumble by Warner. The Hawks would punch in another touchdown after five plays and the they would be with six points. There's a fine line between playing aggressive and playing reckless and it's debatable which side the Cardinals were on early in the fourth quarter.

Win the Battle of Field Position: In a one score game, every yard counts and the Cardinals seemed like they were always on the verge of giving the Seahawks a short field. Dirk Johnson punted twice after the Seahawks final touchdown. One was a decent kick (48 yards) but it was negated by a 20 yard return and the second punt was a pitiful 29 yard shank.  Johnson was a big question mark heading into the season and early on he looked decent but his past two games has been pathetic. Ken Whisenhunt called him out last week and said that he's got to improve but this weeks performance could force the coaching staff to work out some punters off the street. They also lost 17 yards in penalties on their final two offensive drives.Hightower9_medium

Find Some Way to Keep the Clock Running: Considering that last weeks game came down to the final seconds ticking off the clock, I'd have thought the Cardinals would have been a bit more conscious of the clock. Granted it ultimately didn't matter because DRC ended any hopes that the Hawks had of coming back but if the Hawks had mounted a drive they would have had time (2:05) to do some damage. I think most of us have written off the running game from being very effective, although they were better than last week. The Cardinals did a better job of using the clock then they did against the Niners but they still left too many seconds on the table. Two incomplete passes and a reception that ended with Boldin out of bounds left valuable seconds on the clock. to pick on a certain play, Warner was nearly sacked by Lofa Tatupa but he got the ball out of his hands only to be called with intentional grounding. The result was a loss of twelve yards and a clock stoppage. Had KW just tucked the ball and taken the sack the clock would have continued running and used up another 40-ish seconds. Again ultimately it didn't make a bit of difference but it could have if DRC didn't make a great play.

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Maybe I should just be satisfied with another division win on the road, but I think that small problems like this could potentially build up and cost the Cardinals a win against a better opponent. Am I just being too critical? Did you ever really feel like the game was in doubt? Are you concerned that this team can't quite put a game out of reach?

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Dansby

It’s hard for me to blame Dansby for the interception return. Considering that he was only a couple yards deep in the endzone and seemed to have forward momentum while catching the ball, he probably didn’t have much time to make the split second decision to take a knee.

Overall, it is great to take out another division rival on the road, but the play over the last two weeks will not be enough to overtake the Giants or Eagles in Philly.

by AJ BirdWatcher on Nov 17, 2008 11:11 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Im not concerned. Seattle is a hard place to win. And they are a better team then their record shows. Same with the Niners. The question to ask, is if they beat the Giants, will everybody get off their backs and consider them for real?

by Andrew602 on Nov 17, 2008 11:52 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

That is the question of the day!

I think they have a tremendous change, this is there opportunity to show what they have got.

Not to steal anything, but I will. A good friend (who shall remain nameless) made a good point last night. I don’t know if it was the women, the wine, the jubilation of the days victory, or the truth, I’m definitely on board with the latter. His point was this, that the Cardinals always seem to play to the level of the opposing team. That statement to me really sums up the coarse of the season and I guess I will look at it as a cups half full ideal in that they are very capable of coming out this Sunday and sticking it to the Giants.

GO CARDS!

by badmatty53 on Nov 17, 2008 12:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Smart guy that friend is, probably pretty hansome too...

I think we have the W against the Giants at home. Long trip for NY, playing at our house when we finally have a legitimate home field advantage and quite frankly, I think they are do for a loss. We have a very similar team to the Browns when they are playing good ball, and we all know what happened that faithful Monday night game.

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 17, 2008 12:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Not to worry, yet.

The Cards had back to back to back games against rivals, the last two of which are bitter rivals. These teams know each other so well that no lead is safe until the clock strikes triple zeros. I agree that sometimes they play to their competition, but these last two weeks were different. Between the scouting department, the coaches and the players there is not much left to the imagination. However this week will be different. A total different set of rules. Winner take all. The Cards will play a much better game and in my opinion, will win 33-17. Their offense can’t be stopped and we all know a little pressure rattles Oppie Manning. Expect the ends to fly around and more blitzes than normal.

by hevchv on Nov 17, 2008 12:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Plus, you have to figure Kurt wants to stick it to the Giants just a little bit

Didn’t get the results he wanted in that game on Sept. 11th in NY back in…’05.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Nov 17, 2008 12:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Hightower looked good when there was a hole.

I know his stats don’t really show it, but I thought when there was positive push from the O-Line that he made some nice 11-13 yard carries. I know the run game needs work, but I can see a lot more potential than when James just ran straight at the pile and fell down. I liked Edge’s effort for his two plays in the game.

by CardsFan08 on Nov 17, 2008 1:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Hightower seemed to be running to the outside consistently

It worked for him a couple times then the Seahawks’ defense seemed to clue in for that play when he was in the line-up and began to stick him for a loss.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Nov 17, 2008 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

3rd and 2 in the fourth quarter three minutes or less on the clock

That to me is the real final hurdle that the Cardinals need to jump to put the final nail in the coffin for games. There are other things that they could improve on, but basically this is the thing keeping the other team in the game in the final minutes rather than sending the point that the game is over.

Two weeks we’ve been at 3rd and 2, time drawing down and we couldn’t capitalize to keep the clock moving, instead we punt (and we all know what happens with that).

by CardsFan08 on Nov 17, 2008 1:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

If they had a ‘eight minute offense’ this team would be nearly unstoppable. I was hoping that Hightower would be the ‘three yards in a cloud of dust’ type of back who could get some tough yards in the fourth quarter but for whatever reason they just can’t open a hole when they really need to.

by cgolden on Nov 17, 2008 1:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I've said before and I'll say it again.

Penalties, penalties, penalties. We’ve shot ourselves in the foot so much all we have left is a bloody stump!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 17, 2008 1:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

yep, it's time site guys like Pope on the pine

Why does it always seem like Warner is good for one delay penalty per game?

by cgolden on Nov 17, 2008 1:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

After Pope's false start

I don’t remember seeing him in the game after that, aside for a couple doublt TE formations. I saw Spach, even after his false start (still a noob to Warner’s cadence, I’ll give him some slack), for the remainder of the single TE formations.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Nov 17, 2008 2:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That seemed to be the story around the league, though...

..teams showing early domination then, either losing the game outright in the second half, or at least allowing the other team to close the gap uncomfortably. It is pretty rare that any team can seize the momentum and hold it for the entire 60 minutes. The losing club almost always makes adjustments, and the winning team is reluctant to change what worked for them early in the game.

by robert ethan on Nov 17, 2008 1:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Close games

Yes, you didn’t bury Seattle the way you would have liked to. But we have a comparable game, needing OT to defeat the Cincinnati Bengals. It’s a division game. Sometimes you get separation, and sometimes you don’t. Robert Ethan makes a good point about that. Even the rams were in it against us in the third quarter.
The Ravens positive matchup was supposed to be run defense. That didn’t work out. I think the Cards’ positive matchup is big play passes against a Giants’ secondary that is good but has been susceptible to the big play from time to time.
I think Warner is more mature than to hold some far-fetched grudge. They’ll come out to play on Sunday at the site of perhaps our greatest victory.
As far as a statement game, respect, and legitimacy, the question posed by Andrew: No doubt. You don’t have it yet because face it, the division stinks. You’re a 3-3 team outside the division. That doesn’t mean the Cards aren’t any less legit. Frankly, they’re better than any team in the North. But big wins legitimize teams with weak schedules. The Giants were picked to finish 3rd or last in the East this year by most. And at 5-1 vs. seattle, STL, and SF, nobody was high on the Giants either. It took East wins and the Pitt win to give us cred.
Win the game, and you’re 8-3 with a win over the media’s latest crush. That puts you where you feel you belong: with New York and Carolina.

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 17, 2008 1:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Where "we hope" is different than where "we feel"

I’ll go out on a limb and say most of the RotB folks have no misconceptions of believing the Cardinals belong in the upper tiers of the NFL elite, at least not at the Giants/Titans level. I’m sure most would argue that the Cardinals “gave away” the Panther game on the road and we should be on par with them, especially considering their “dominating” victories over the NFL’s septic tank teams the past two weeks. Yet, most of the NFL’s fans would say the Cardinals are just a less shitty team than the rest of the shitty NFC West. Regardless, all of the RotB folks hope that the Cardinals can pull off something positive against the Giants and at least put the media’s love of the term “same old Cardinals” to bed for the remainder of the season.

A victory against Giants, Eagles, and/or Patriots will go a long ways to strengthening the hope we have for our chosen franchise to “make some noise” in the post-season. Until the team shows it can do that for more than a single season every decade, we have no justification to “feel” like it’s the Cardinals right to belong in the NFL’s elite.

Until that time, we keep hoping and enjoy the times when that hope is rewarded with a victory, regardless of how “pretty” it was.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Nov 17, 2008 2:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

well said Hawk

I certainly wouldn’t put the Cards in ‘tier 1’ which in my mind consists of TEN and NYG but I think you could make a case that they belong in ‘tier 2’ which consists of about 6 or 8 teams. With that being said, I think a tier two does have a chance to knock off a tier one team if they’re a home and they play a good football game from start to finish.

Probable, no – but possible. I’m not saying…..I’m just saying.

by cgolden on Nov 17, 2008 2:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree CG

We have the ability to win this Sunday…any given Sunday.

by badmatty53 on Nov 17, 2008 3:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

"Pull off something positive"

I’m with you here Hawk. In my mind that may or may not be a win, but I would like my team to stay competitive with one of the league’s elite this Sunday.

by AJ BirdWatcher on Nov 17, 2008 3:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’m going to the game this weekend. I bought the tickets long before I thought it was going to be so significant. I’m totally on board with the any given Sunday theme. If there’s a chance, it will be with us at home.

by CardsFan08 on Nov 18, 2008 8:35 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Their pass rush is the...

only thing I am really worried about. Warner gets chewed up when a team can bring 3 or 4 person pass rush and still get pressure. He’s got no mobility which could make for a long day.
That being said, I don’t think it would necessarily kill our momentum if we lose. We are probably going to see them late in playoffs if we make it that far and I would kind of like them not giving us props when that game comes. If we want to be legitimized, this is a must win game for us. We will not get the respect from the media and the rest of the fans in the NFL until we win a big game against a big team. There are no moral victories for the Cardinals anymore. Everyone in the media and fans alike are fed up with them building up, only to let down.

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 17, 2008 3:40 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The Giants

haven’t had a pass rush for the past 2 games. Is Warner fairly slow in the pocket, or does he evade? Flacco ran for 50 yards on us and we didn’t record a sack until garbage time.

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 18, 2008 7:51 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Warner's fairly slow getting out of bed in the morning much less in the pocket

Consider that he hasnt’ run for 50 yards in an entire season since 2001 and if you combine his rushing stats for the past three seasons and the ten games this season, they total 46 yards. So, no you don’t have to worry about KW taking off on you.

by cgolden on Nov 18, 2008 8:12 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

that is very true

Did everyone else see the ‘wildcat’ play where he took off on a slant route and held his hand up to show that he was open? I can’t imagine KW in the open field after a catch, but maybe Q can give him some pointers on how to pick up some YAC (I’m thinking he could hit the defender with his cane).

by cgolden on Nov 18, 2008 9:15 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

my kids think i'm crazy for laughing so hard at that cane joke.

Here’s a headliner for you.
Will Kurt Warner continue riding his cane all the way to the league MVP?

by hevchv on Nov 18, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If we can stop the run that will be the key factor of the game. Not worried about anything else. Their defense has nothing on our offense.

by Andrew602 on Nov 17, 2008 6:31 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

You don't stop the run

You can only try to CONTAIN the run. Just kidding. But seriously, the Giants D “has nothing” on your offense? Give them some credit. Or, make a prediction. Like this one:

More like the Ravens are going to force the Giants to TRY and make it work. When it doesnt, they are going to be like every other team we’ve played and end up going to the air
I think the ravens will run the ball better than the Giants on sunday.

by Matchz Malone on Nov 14, 2008

Good luck!

by Matchz Malone

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 18, 2008 8:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Prediction:

Manning throws 231 yards 2 picks 0 TDs
Total rush yards 126 3 TDs

Cardinals lead going into the half 24-10, Final score 34-24 Cardinals

Warner 379 yards 3 TDs 1 pick
Total rush yards 110 1 TD

Hows that for a prediction!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 18, 2008 9:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Carnac

I laughed out loud. That is an awesome prediction, and if it’s right, I’ll be sending you a check or money order for your picks next week. By the way, I didn’t mean to paste “Malone” twice. The “Good luck!” was from me.

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 18, 2008 9:25 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be switching my name to Brandon Lang...

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 18, 2008 10:02 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give credit were credit is due and throw a prediction out there.

Don’t the Giants have the #2 D in the league. I’d call this a good match up and true test.

Prediction: Cardinals defense come strong the first have and keep the run limited but Eli airs it out secondary gives up a big p[lay or two. Second half Giants line starts breaking open some holes and for some reason Pendergast eases up, stops bringing the pressure and Jacobs starts finding some holes.

Cardinals march down field all day run the ball 6 times and IF they can get good field position, limit the Giants field position, control the clock, avoid turning over the ball, and finish in the red zone….

Cardinals 34 Giants 30

Niel rackers misses from 47 yards out in the last 30 seconds Giants 30 cardinals 27

by badmatty53 on Nov 18, 2008 9:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Our offense will do it's job, and hopefully we can get some rushing going

I know that may seem unlikely if we can’t get it going against the Seahawks or 49ers, but when KW is so good through the air there should be some dividends paid by having less people in the box.

I think this weeks game will be decided by whose defense adapts the best.

by CardsFan08 on Nov 18, 2008 8:42 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's put last weeks win in the rear view mirror

I was afraid of moving on with it only being Tuesday but I already can’t wait for Sunday.

To badmatty’s point about the Giants D, they’re the #2 rated pass defense in yards per game, 4th in interceptions and 4th in sacks so they’ll be a the best test that “KW and Co” have faced to date. They’re 8th against the run in YPG but tied for 14 in yards per carry. Bottom line, they’re won’t be anything easy on Sunday.

by cgolden on Nov 18, 2008 9:22 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Is it only Tuesday, F**K!

HAPPY GO FUN DAY, SUNDAY!(In my typical horrible off key signing voice)

by badmatty53 on Nov 18, 2008 9:35 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt's the chick with the Cardinal head tatooed on his lower back...

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 18, 2008 10:01 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt...you're hot!

I pause that on TiVo everytime. :P Don’t tell my wife. ;-)

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Nov 18, 2008 10:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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