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Take Your Pick: Arizona Cardinals Skill or New York Giants Will?

The Arizona Cardinals and New York Giants sport the #2 and #4 offenses in the National Football League but that doesn't mean that they have much in common. They both put plenty of points on the board (#2 and #1, respectively) and they both like to control the clock (#4 and #2) but there's nothing similar about their methods of getting the job done. The Cardinals precision passing game has a way of slicing and dicing opposing defenses with the skill of a surgeon performing a triple bypass. The Giants, on the other hand, chose to physically impose their will on opposing defenses with a ground game that gives 'blunt force trauma' a bad name.

The contradictory nature of the Cardinals and Giants have an interesting way of working against each other. If either unit starts to excel early in the game, it could put significant pressure on the other. If either team can neutralize the other's skill or will, they'll gain a signifiicant advantage. So take your pick on which prevails, skill or will?

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If Skill Takes Over: If the Cardinals passing game, led by MVP candidate Kurt Warner, can get off to a fast start and put some early points on the board they'll put immense pressure on the Giants. The Giants aren't inept at throwing the ball by any means but they're certainly not built to play from behind either. The Giants overall offense is ranked pretty high but their passing game ranks just 19th in the league with just under 200 yards per game. Eli Manning has come a long way since he was backing up Kurt Warner as a rookie but he's still not known for taking over a game and leading his team to comeback wins. He's got as many 300 yard passing games in his five year career (6) as Warner has had in the past nine games. The Giants ability to run the ball at will has left them even less dependent on Eli this season and he's only averaging 208 yards per game. If Warner, Fitzgerald andTiki_barber_vs Boldin can jump out to an early lead and take the trio of Giants running backs out of the game, the pressure will be squarely on the shoulders of Eli and the Giants' 19th ranked pass offense. 

If Will Takes Over: There are several reasons why the Giants are 9-1 but you can't name to name many before you get to Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw. They're the best running game in the NFL and they're a huge reason why the Giants score the most points per game of any offense in the league. They dominate the time of possession (2nd in the league) effectively shortening games and limiting the chances that opposing offenses have of mounting drives. The Giants have a way of physically imposing themselves on defenses, wearing down defenses and rotating running backs so that they're fresh for fourth quarters when they're normally nursing a lead and milking the clock. Jacobs, Ward and Bradshaw all average better than 5.0 yards per carry and have combined for more than 1,700 yards on the season. Kurt Warner is a quarterback who tends to get hot during a game and go a quarter or two with just a couple incompletions but if the Giants can hold the ball for extended periods of time they might be able to keep him out of rhythm. It might be just a cliche, but KW and the offense can't score points while they're standing on the sidelines.

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The Cardinals and Giants often get to the same results but they chose much different methods. The question we'll find out Sunday is, which method works better? If one gets clicking early in the game, can they neutralize the other?

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As a Giants fan I find this to be a good look at things

However, your line about Eli not being a “comeback” type of quarterback is at best a half truth. He is able to lead drives with incredible poise and skill late in games, so he can handle making the big drive when needed. However, if you are referring more to digging the Giants out of a deep hole, he has not been as successful there.

Also, that 200 yds/game average is a bit misleading, as he does not need to pile up passing yards, particularly when they have the lead and Gilbride is doing his milk the clock playcalling. He is by no means a slinger like Favre was in Green Bay or Warner has/is, but he can pile up the yards if given the opportunity (provided bad Eli does not show up of course).

by brisulph on Nov 20, 2008 10:18 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

2 things

Eli actually is kind of a 4th quarter comeback guy. Last years superbowl is the classic example.
 Check over at Big Blue View and you’ll see that a lot of us Giant fans talk with as much reverence about the offensive line as with our running backs.

Make it 3 things, A lot of us still hold Warner in high esteem not just for his play but, he was such a class act while he was here and wish him well except this week.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Nov 20, 2008 10:56 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I should have been more clear on Eli's 'comeback ability'

I wasn’t talking so much about his ability to lead one drive late in a game as much as I was about his ability to bring his team back from a two score deficit in the fourth quarter. Or to be more specific, his ability to carry the offense for an extended period of time (an entire quarter or half) without the help of the running game.

by cgolden on Nov 20, 2008 11:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cgolden

I will have to agree to disagree with you. Many teams find it difficult to come from behind from 14 pt. down, especially in the last quarter of the game. I recall from a MNF game earlier in the year, the great Favre has never lead his team from behind 14 pts. Has Warner done it? I digress, Eli can however lead come backs. He’s done it several times. Chicago last yr., Cincy this yr., Eagles 2 yrs. ago to name a few off the top of my head. He’s proven he can spread the ball around. He may not be as accurate as Warner (not many QBs are) but he does get the job done.

I don’t see how we put 5 in the box to respect the run, and have 6 DBs for the most part manning the middle. And even if Ross is out Terrel Thomas has shown some ability, and Madison/Quarters are consummate pros. It will not be an easy day by any stretch for either team. But the way my guys have looked the last several weeks, almost making everybody forget how soft our early schedule was, has given me and all us Giants fans the confidence we haven’t had in a long time.

Teams who predicate their style to the run, and do so highly effective, tend to control tempo. So long as we start off strong on the ground again I see a Giants W.

by ProudYankee on Nov 20, 2008 12:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope the Giants as a whole are as confident as their fans going into this game.

When we send them packing it will be that much sweeter of a victory!!!

Cardinals baby, Cardinals!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 20, 2008 1:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Reigning SB champs, 9-1 record, the have the right to "feel" confident

Considering the Cardinals’ streak at home, their vaunted aerial attack that torched a then 2nd ranked Panthers’ pass defense, a 7th ranked run defense (in Arizona?!), Cardinals fans every right to be hopeful. Should be fun as long as the tension doesn’t induce cardiac arrest. My doctor is going to tell me to root for another team! Hell no!

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Nov 20, 2008 1:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they have ever reason to be confident!

I for one will try to show some restraint and edit my self so as not to suffer from foot in mouth disease. At least until after the game. Seacocksssssss! seaaaaaacoooocccckkkssss!

by badmatty53 on Nov 20, 2008 2:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's just say this

Teams, and fans, have talked trash all season about ‘punching the giants in the mouth,’ stopping the run, doing all kinds of stuff. all I know is the Giants are defending Super Bowl champs and they are 9-1. We don’t have to talk trash. And, if we happen to lose Sunday, it really doesn’t matter all that much.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 20, 2008 3:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool! Get the emergency QB in the game in the 1st quarter then! ;-)

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Nov 20, 2008 3:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

While it wouldn't mean much to the Giants...

…it would mean the world to the Cardinals. Especially because it would silence a lot of people saying that the Cardinals have beat a lot of nobody’s and haven’t proven that they belong in the playoffs. One other thing is it could become a preview of what we could see in the offseason.

For the season’s big picture it does little to the Giants, but for Cards it has nothing but upside.

by CardsFan08 on Nov 20, 2008 11:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sunday

It would be a great win for the Giants. To go to 10-1 and pretty much wrap up a division title already would be awesome. What I meant earlier was that the Giants have put themselves in a position where, should they lose, it’s not devastating. But, we would like to win!

by Ed Valentine on Nov 21, 2008 7:44 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We wouldn't have it any other way though, right?

Cardiac Cardinals baby…

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 20, 2008 2:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Is it freaking Sunday yet, :::Screams:::

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt, or God?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Nov 20, 2008 2:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i like cards chances in this game

Giants secondary has played better this past month, but man, Boldin and Fitz are so freakin special. Warers been great at home.

I like Cards here for the reasons you mentioned cgolden. An early score or two might keep the Giants passing a bit more than they normally might like.

by Blitzburgh on Nov 21, 2008 3:21 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Blitz

You make a good point. I don’t really want to see a full-blown shootout, though I have confidence in Eli. I would rather see a game where the Giants can run, dominate time of possession and limit Warner’s opportunities.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 21, 2008 7:46 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

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