If the Arizona Cardinals Are Looking for Respect, They Can Forget It
by Hawkwind on Jan 13, 2009 9:06 AM MST
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Andrew touched on the lack of confidence (to put it mildly) that most have in the Cardinals, and here's a second installment of just how little respect the Cardinals are getting.
The Arizona Cardinals are used to being underdogs and they're used to getting zero respect from their peers. A division title and two playoffs wins isn't changing a thing though. The Cardinals opened as three point underdogs for the NFC Championship game despite the game being played in their house where they're 13-4 the past two seasons. Vegas isn't the only ones who are ready to count out the Cardinals though. Check out this from ESPN:
Still not convinced that the Cardinals are being overlooked? Check out this from the Philly paper:
Still have doubts? Check out this comment from our fellow SB Nation blog, Bleeding Green Nation (link to thread):
The Arizona Cardinals have wet their appetites each week by watching and listening to everyone tell them how bad they are and they shouldn't have any problems finding more disrespect this week. Feel free to use this thread to post other links to people who are already wondering who the Eagles are playing in the Super Bowl.
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The final comment on BGN is between me and Jason, who runs the blog. And it was taken completely and unfairly out of context by Hawkwind.
The thread (which isn’t linked to…) was pointing out that the top three defenses in the league are Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Philadelphia. They all happen to still be in the playoffs. I mentioned that Arizona had the 19th best defense and that it statistically was the outlier compared to the other teams. But in other posts I talked about how much better the defense has been in the playoffs. And Jason’s point was that Arizona was not expected to be here and you can’t honestly tell me most fans predicted they’d be in, let alone hosting, the NFC Championship Game. Most Philadelphia fans didn’t think we’d be here either!
While the Cardinals might be getting disrespected from a lot of quarters (that I can admit), the bottom line is that the final quote from BGN was taken out of context and in no way was intended to disrespect the Cardinals the way it is suggested.
by ajay on Jan 13, 2009 9:25 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
My apologies
I suppose I’ve debased myself to the rest of the “media scum” in taking a quote and putting a spin on it. I have been thinking back to the preseason when the focus was Warner vs. Leinart and look at where the Cardinals are now and must admit, how the hell did the Cardinals get here? :P
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 13, 2009 9:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I will admit most of the media scum are giving you no chance. And you thrive on that. So I hope the Eagles players are paying attention. I’m pretty sure they are.
As for me, I’m getting into my DeLorean, firing it up to 88MPH, going back to September 2008 and putting a lot of money on an Eagles-Cardinals NFC Championship game.
by ajay on Jan 13, 2009 9:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No kiddin'!
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 13, 2009 10:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All I have to say is (and just disregard if you are sensitive to harsh language)...
The media, Neon “Primetime” Dieon and all other haters can seriously lick my balls! I’m talking giving them a good shining, getting in there deep and absolutely go to town on those suckers!!!
GOOOOOOOOOO CARDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Jan 13, 2009 9:48 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I see the BGN quote issue has been resolved, so I won’t touch on that, but in regards to the ESPN Article and the Daily Local News article, I do have some opinions. First, to be fully honest, I’ve never heard of the Daily Local News or Jack McCaffery, so let’s take his opinion with a grain of salt here. Second, ESPN’s reporting standards are so sub-par anymore that you can’t really take anything they say seriously either. Want to know what matters to them? Ratings. Plain and simple. Just from a market size aspect, Philly will probably draw a better audience, so who do you think the will run with? Look how they handled the college football season and the Heisman…
IMO, here’s what it boils down to. Once the playoffs come, it’s a new four week season. Whatever happened in the regular season doesn’t mean anything anymore. There’s four teams left and your defense is playing just as well as everyone elses. Defense, the ability to run effectively, and turnover differential is what wins playoffs games, and right now you’re doing all of those things. Anyone that discounts the Cardinals is a fool. I hate the Giants, but look what they were able to accomplish last year. They were supposed to loose every game they played in the playoffs; it just never happened.
I will agree that your team is getting the short end of the stick regarding the media coverage; but who cares? Honestly, we probably have more collective knowledge here that most sports networks… Who says their opinion is more valid than ours? I’m not discounting your team; but I will be completely honest and say that a month ago, I wouldn’t have put money on EITHER of us to be here.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Jan 13, 2009 9:54 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Here Here Foos05! Well said and certainly more constructive...
than lick my balls:-) I completely agree though, good stuff!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Jan 13, 2009 10:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to Imagine
Whatever happened in the regular season doesn’t mean anything anymore.
That’s an over-simplification, isn’t it? At a minimum, they were practicing to be in prime shape for the playoffs, working on seeding and working on simply getting to the second season. 12 teams out of 32 is a pretty severe cut-off.
Be honest, this is shocking to everyone. Anyone with an objective mindset wouldn’t have put the Cards in the NFC championship last August.
This is confusing and they’re doing things they haven’t done all season long. The Falcons and Panthers were simply not ready for that level of run defense.
I’ve recently started posting here and said more than once that I’ve developed a hatred for the Cardinals over the last 8 to 10 years as a self-defense mechanism (openly rooting against them is cathartic after the 1998 dismantling and watching Tom Tupa as the starting quarterback). That being said, I’m putting the Cards in the Super Bowl and either beating Pittsburgh or losing to Baltimore.
The confusion and lack of respect from the national media is expected, normal and proper given the Cards’ history and the lackluster end to this season.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Jan 13, 2009 11:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't expecting this
But I sure am glad it’s gone so well so far. So, close I can taste it.
by badmatty53 on Jan 13, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s an over-simplification, isn’t it?
Perhaps, but it doesn’t mean it’s any less valid. If you’re on team that is in the playoffs looking at the past; at regular season games and basing your opinion of your opponent on that (especially if it’s a game between your two teams), you’re probably in for a rude awakening because you might be going home this week instead of moving on…. That’s all we heard from the Giants fans last week… How they dominated us so badly in the first game and that we didn’t beat them the second game, they beat themselves… And look what happened… None of that mattered… We came out with entirely different looks and an entirely different game plan…
Some people say the most dangerous team is the most desperate team… Right now, everyone is desperate.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Jan 13, 2009 12:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
True, if
If the only purpose of the regular season is to assess a team’s playoff chances, then it is somewhat true to say the regular season doesn’t matter. Definitely, a team facing the Cards assuming it’s the same Cards from November/December would be wrong.
That having been said, I still don’t have a ton of criticism for national media members who aren’t that hot on the Cards.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Jan 13, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
foos05
Love it…
Will say that both teams have put their own spin on the Cinderella story this post season and I for one am looking forward to a great football game either way.
Regardless of what happens Sunday I am proud of what this franchise has done this post season. It’s an honor to be able to watch this team that we have had so many ups and downs with over the years play for the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP, my god did I just say that…Fuck yeah!
Both of these teams have proved that they can play post season caliber, or should I say Superbowl caliber football. It’s going to come down to best game plan and best execution of said game plan.
It’s not Sunday yet???? WTF!
GO CARDINALS!
by badmatty53 on Jan 13, 2009 10:06 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Sadly most of the "ups" in the past decade have been in the offseason...which doesn't mean shit Denny Green!
Gawds, I hated when he was counting a good OTA session as a “win”. Moron.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 13, 2009 10:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well said badmatty and foos05, these have been some great threads
I have only been following the Cardinals since 2006, I’m from Arizona and when we drafted Matt Leinart after his wonder boy years at USC it really spurred my interest to begin following my home team, we finished 5-11. A great friend of mine is a Steelers fan and when so many of the Steelers coaches came to the team with Whiz in 2007 it further spurred my interest and I saw watched as we were three kicks from finishing 11-5, we finished 8-8 but the improvement could be seen. This year I decided to buy season tickets and become part of the Red Sea, we complete the regular season 9-7, we host a playoff game and win, we win on the road, and now we’re hosting the NFC Championship game.
The point of this long story is that while I haven’t been on the ride as long as you awesome and deserving Cardinals fans I’ve seen us grow, work, and mature. Whiz has brought a winning spirit to the Cardinals and turned the team into contenders.
Win or lose this weekend the Cardinals have defied all odds, all logic, and best of all, they found a new side of themselves.
This game is going to be awesome! Go Cardinals!
by CardsFan08 on Jan 13, 2009 7:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good info Hawk
I see what they are saying but that quote does have a hint of sarcasm on it. lol
by Andrew602 on Jan 13, 2009 10:42 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Anybody with a heart
is rooting for the Cards. Saw the line opened as ’dogs. You gotta take your respect man. Best wishes.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 13, 2009 10:43 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
hey Simms… I see you haven’t returned to BGN after you proclaimed how mediocre our team was before we dispacted the Giants! I thought you said you were returning after the game to rub it in our faces and tell us how awful we are…
sorry about the aside RotBers… back to regularly scheduled programming
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Jan 13, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We could say the same about Carolina's blogger "southtunnel"
We’ll see him next season. :-)
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 13, 2009 11:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
here here… i’ll drink to that (if i wasn’t at work and had a beer that is)
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Jan 13, 2009 12:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this guy is the biggest troll in the world. He makes Cowboys fans look like respectable people.
by Clyde Simmons on Jan 13, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah simms what happened to backing up all that trash talk on the eagles blogs??
you cant make all that talk without owning up to it
by Manoovi on Jan 13, 2009 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay
since you invited me, I’ll come back today. (FRI)
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2009 9:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Alt Nation 47 on XM/Sirius radio just dissed a Ravens/Cardinals SB match-up
“If it was a Ravens/Cardinals Super Bowl, would you watch? I wouldn’t. Cardinals? Super Bowl? That’s not my Super Bowl.” ~Alt Nation DJ @ 1153 PST, Jan. 13th.
Sure, not a sports guy, but still.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 13, 2009 12:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Its really getting old..
Lol…maybe they are secretly Cardinal fans and are just trying to get the Cardinals fired up.
by Andrew602 on Jan 13, 2009 1:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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