Developing Arizona Cardinals Story: Anquan Boldin is Not in the Mood to Celebrate
If you watched the game yesterday, you saw Anquan Boldin, a fan favorite, in a
yelling match with Todd Haley, Arizona Cardinals offensive coordinator, during the 4th quarter drive in which the Cardinals eventually took the lead. It wasn't immediately know what the argument was about but Haley said after the game that it was just a heat of the moment type of thing and down played the idea of it being a big story.
Well that may not be the case at all. I didn't notice it at the time yesterday, (although Andrew mentioned it in the previous thread) but Boldin skipped all of the post game festivities. He left the field before the trophy was ever presented and he chose not to celebrate with team mates or fans and he had already left the locker room by the time the media was allowed access. No one is reporting exactly what ticked off Q, but it's being speculated that it could have been being replaced by Breaston on a play during that 4th quarter drive, or the play calling that resulted in mostly one receiver formations or even that he was simply upset about watching Fitzgerald have a huge game while he had just four receptions for 34 yards. Whatever the aggravation was, we'll definitely be hearing more and more about what went down and how everyone is handling it. As Darren Urban points out, the media presence during Super Bowl week will be exhaustive so we certainly haven't heard the last of Boldin's actions.
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So what do you make of Boldin's decision to leave the field and locker room? Does this change you opinion of him as a player or team mate or is just an passionate guy who wears his emotions on his sleeve?
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Dont know if anybody saw but...
Warner and Haley were arguing in the first half. It wasnt blown up like Q and Haley though. Just thought id point that out. Im not mad about the arguing, but the fact that Q wasnt even on the field celebrating.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 19, 2009 11:07 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion...
He probably still has a lot of hard feelings about the organization and it may have already been predetermined and had nothing to do with the argument with Haley, just knowing that upper management would be down in the locker room to celebrate. I’m sure he still has a lot of animosity built up from being betrayed by the organization. Maybe he went on to celebrate with his teammates later on at some after parties.
> The two-time Pro Bowler was asked if an NFC championship helped alleviate any ill feelings he had toward the team.
“That’s not an issue,” Boldin said, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. “Like I told you guys at the beginning of the season, my main goal was to do this. I’ve come through with all of my promises. I fought. I gave my heart to this organization. It’s paying off.”
Sounds like a guy that still feels betrayed and is holding some hard feelings from the beginning of the season.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 19, 2009 11:45 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Cant argue with him..
He’s put up big time numbers for us year after year. I would feel the same way. It’s as if your sibling(Fitzgerald) gets more love from the parents(organization), and you are the red headed step child. Fitz is turning into the face of the organization, which I have no problem with at all, but I see where Boldin is frustrated. The media is playing him out to be the disruptive bad guy.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 19, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You make a good point Andrew
It makes me think about my response a little differently.
The way Q acted on the sideline could have been from lots of things. Maybe Haley saw that Q wasn’t 100% and didn’t want him on the field during that series because of it. All of that can be excused on both of their parts, it was the heat of battle and Q wanted to be in that final drive.
But his actions after the game do sort of sully his good name, in my opinion, because all of his contributions are what allowed the Cardinals to get where they are. He was a part of the game that took them to the Super Bowl! For goodness sakes, put the negative emotions aside and celebrate and enjoy. Don’t make a spectacle of yourself and now cause a media hype that will be filled with “Boldin is unhappy in the desert.” The team doesn’t need these distractions.
He says he wants to do his job, well my response is simple. Haley’s job is to pick the plays and packages that are going to help the team win. Due to the situation for some reason he picked the package that didn’t utilize Q’s unique talents. Too bad it’s a team sport, maybe he should learn from the example that Edge has demonstrated and be quiet while someone else (Haley) on the team does their job.
by CardsFan08 on Jan 19, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Boldin
Sounds like a guy that still feels betrayed and is holding some hard feelings from the beginning of the season.
We’ve heard this type of thing before when Bidwill has ratcheted up his bean-counting, so it’s nothing new; unfortunately.
by cfaddct on Jan 19, 2009 1:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have been
a big Boldin fan for a long time… Its really gonna piss me off to see the media play this into him being a selfish guy, I even had a friend this morning say he sounds like another T.O., I went off…
He is the consummate pro, he will do anything for his teammates. You can really tell though that he has been hurt and feels betrayed by the organization. It would be really nice to see the Cards come with a nice extension. Seems like its out of the realm of possibility, is it?
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 19, 2009 12:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
After this run its hard to tell.
I would say if this season was another losing one, you could expect them to trade him. But after making the Super Bowl. Its a whole different story.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 19, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Q is not, and never has been T.O.
You’re absolutely right Bullock. Q isn’t T.O. and I would also quickly defend his class as an athlete and team contributor in an instant.
I don’t want to seem like I’m coming down on Q too much, I just didn’t like how he acted during a moment of such great joy, I didn’t like that he walked away from his team during their chance to celebrate together.
He’s amazing and has been such a driving force to get the Cards where they are. I would really like for them to get a package together and settle all of this bad tension and put these issues to rest once and for all.
by CardsFan08 on Jan 19, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Like i said earlier..
They briefly showed Warner and Haley arguing in the first half. They didnt make it into a big deal though. Why not? Its all media hype. The only problem I have is Q not on the field celebrating with his TEAM.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 19, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Maybe I’m putting too many words behind it, but that’s exactly how I feel.
by CardsFan08 on Jan 19, 2009 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Warner went away from that argument laughing though.
It seemed to be a difused by Haley.
Plus the defence was on the field so the timing of it was better.
Q shouldn’t have been distracting his boss at the biggest point of the season and Haley wasn’t long about telling him that either.
If we had screwed up that drive then Q would be villain number 1 today – we didn’t so it should be dealt with behind closed doors now and move on to preparations for two weeks time!
by CardsIrish on Jan 19, 2009 4:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
that would be nice… My only thing is maybe he feels overly betrayed by the front office and knew they would be in the locker room and down on the field to celebrate. Maybe he didn’t wanna give the front office the idea he was happy or willing to let it go because they are going to the Super Bowl.
I don’t agree with his decision, but I really don’t know how I’d feel or what I would do if in his situation. Obviously this is a goal he’s helped them achieve and really feels under-appreciated for it.
As for T.O… He would have held out, Boldin didn’t. He came out and said things like I will still go out there and give 100% every play, every game and do it all for my teammates, even though he feels like he’s not being paid accordingly. Thats pretty honorable.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 19, 2009 12:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Drew "Biggest Dickhead, Cocksucking MFer in the World" Rosenhaus directed Q to do what he did as "set-up" for the offseason?"
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 20, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
Q would go along with it…
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 20, 2009 5:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see it mentioned before...
…but at what % was Q playing? Could it be an issue where Q thought he was 90-100% but the coaching staff thought he was more in the 70% range? It’s just a thought as it is hard to question the play-calling at this point.
It also re-affirms my belief Q will be traded in the offseason. He is a great GREAT player, but the team can’t afford to give him a raise and have that expensive a WR corps. Fitz/Breaston/Doucet/etc doesn’t scare me going into next year.
I love the smell of commerce in the morning
by Red Reign on Jan 19, 2009 12:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone hear
him on NFL Live today? I just did and he said he didn’t go out any back door… He just said he wanted to get out before the media got in and turned it into nothing but questions about his dispute with Haley. I guess we can believe what we want.
He was pissed on the sideline cuz he didn’t get an explanation on why he was taken out of the game for Breaston in that package. He said he was fine, but they must have thought he wasn’t able to run the way they wanted him too.
He keeps reiterating that he does everything for his teammates, and his goal is to win it all. As far as I’m concerned from the way it sounded he really didn’t want to answer on anything having to do with the coaches at all. When they asked if he and the Haley still have any lingering problems, he pretty much said it is what it is. Also, it really doesn’t sound like he ever got a straight answer on why he was taken out, just gave an assumption which tells you there’s still not too much dialogue between he and the coaches.
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 19, 2009 2:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Breaston has emerged as a talented WR
but to replace Boldin for him on a key drive in the game doens’t make too much sense. We won’t really know much, just that he was frustrated.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 19, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to hear it for myself, but here's my first take on that...
It sounds like he made it home, thought about what a bonehead move he made and knew that he let his emotions control his actions. Then he thought about all of the potential impact that a “situation” could do to this team as well as his future employment from either this team or a future team.
So he came up with the best “put the issue to rest” story that he could considering his actions and came forward to try and settle the media storm before it began turning him into a T.O.
by CardsFan08 on Jan 19, 2009 7:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just heard it on ESPN
He didn’t sound too angry. He was aggravated that they didn’t give him an explanation about why they took him out. He thought it was because they thought he couldn’t run the way they wanted him to, but he said he felt fine. He put special emphasis on saying he “still wants to come out and play for his teammates”.
He seemed to still have that underlying resentment toward the upper management and I’m starting to agree with some of the ROTBers that think Q will be traded in the offseason.
by CardsFan08 on Jan 19, 2009 8:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I would hope
at least a 1st and a 3rd
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 20, 2009 2:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Another selfish athelte who places himself above the team
Boy, if you guys can’t see that, then winning is TOO important to you,
As an impartial observer, I’m glad the Cards won. I have great respect for Kurt Warner. Boldin’s actions, however, are a disgrace…..period. The whole country saw it. Stop making alibis for him.
by ccthemovieman on Jan 19, 2009 3:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is making "Alibis" for him.
Actually, if you read the comments, you will see several Cardinal fans expressing how they feel about the matter and that Q was wrong. I personally don’t agree with his actions either. BUT, he’s done a lot more good for the team then bad. He’s been around longer then Larry and produced more (up until this year), yet Larry got a huge deal. Why not Q? I think a lot of Cardinal’s fans took Q for granted. We’ll find out whats going to happen this offseason and the whole Anquan situation when that time comes.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 19, 2009 5:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the reason Larry got Larry money has been apparent considering his play this post-season!
If Bolden could stay healthy a full season, maybe the check could be justified, but right now, they don’t deserve to be making the same amount of money, period.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Jan 20, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me throw a, few, more, commas, in, there, ,,,!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Jan 20, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Stay healthy...when was the last time Q played a full season? '05?
You are an incredible player, Anquan. You are underpaid. BUT, you aren’t worthy “Larry Money” when Larry himself is quickly making a case for being “underpaid”.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 20, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
+1, The minute he blew up and walked off after the game...
He lost all validity to his argument and made himself out to be the bad guy. Had he handle it more gracefully and professionally, he would have been able to force the Cardinals managements’ hands and either got his money, or been traded to someone who would show it to him. Now he’s the bad guy, the distraction and the nuisance “T.O.” type player that the media loves to add fuel to the flame for their news stories. We all make mistakes and different people handle their anger in different ways, but when you’re on the national stage as Bolden is, you have to constantly critique and internalize your actions.
After the Jets game, we were all up in arms for him to be paid his money, and I still stand firm to him being an intricate part of the equation the got us to the Super Bowl. However, this temper tantrum he just threw after this game is inexcusable. He only hurt himself and his team by doing this and instead of downplaying the magnitude of this situation, I think an apology to his teammates and fans is in order. Like it or not, you are a role model Bolden. You were the minute you started collecting your over inflated paychecks to play a game, act like it!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Jan 20, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The +1 was for the original post BTW...
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Jan 20, 2009 11:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Who is making
excuses… Nobody said it was a brilliant move on his part…
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 19, 2009 4:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think Q and the Cards are moving in different directions
I think we need to let Anquan go… he’s the one who said he wouldn’t play for the team again. If there is one thing Wiz has emphasized over and over again, it is TEAM first. I don’t think Anquan has personified that. For the most part, he has been professional, but there’s been an ‘edge’ since the beginning of the season. All the other players, including those who have wanted a new contract and the ‘Edge’ himself, have put TEAM first. He’s a great player and a very good receiver… but he’s not deserving of the same kind of contract Fitz has, and I don’t think he will settle for less. I hate to lose his leadership, but it’s become a negative and will get worse. Let’s get something good for him and let him go. We have other players and leaders who will step up.
by ehsiii on Jan 19, 2009 4:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I said it once and I'll say it again.
Receiver is the one area where I view someone as being expendable and that someone is Q. Love you Q but we are deep at wide out. Breaston and Urban have both proven they can handle the load and Doucet has shown signs of being the man to fill Q’s spot (eventually).
If coaching goes in the direction I think (we all know) they should this off season, BALANCING THE OFFENSE. We would draft/trade O-Line and possibly a top notch RB making Q even more expendable (can’t believe I’m putting Q and expendable in the same sentence).
My last point would be the Q hasn’t exactly been the healthiest physical specimen throught out his tenure with Arizona. There is no way the Bidwell’s are going to pay Larry money for another receiver who. 1. Is prone to injury 2. Isn’t happy with the organization. 3. Wasn’t at the top of his game since the big hit (yeah, I said it). 3. Doesn’t cooperate with the coaching staff. 4. Has three capable back ups who proved this season they can win ball games when Q isn’t there.
by badmatty53 on Jan 20, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get mad Quan....
..just get even.
Huge game from both of the gamebreakers in two weeks.
by robert ethan on Jan 19, 2009 6:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No matter what the issue is/was...
…skipping out is percieved as very bad form in this situation. However, if he was still really peaved and his feelings hurt [anger is generally caused by hurt feelings in one form or another], then perhaps everyone would be better off with him being absent rather than sticking around with a pouting/angry face during a post conference championship celebration. How weird would that have been to see that play-out on camera?
by LowcountryJoe on Jan 19, 2009 9:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think Larry
needs to hug him more… LoL
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jan 20, 2009 2:55 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Hey everyone. First and foremost.....CONGRATS on going to the Super Bowl!
After all those years, you have to be walking around with a 3 mile smile!
I am a Dolphin fan joined up at the Phinsider. And of course Boldin is mentioned a lot over there in the hopes that there maybe a way we could trade for him. I’ve scanned the internet, and can’t even find two dots that connect this story. What exactly do you think will happen to Boldin in the offseason and do you see him being traded, or resigned with a newer, bigger contract? And, do the Dolphins have a realistic shot? I hope what happend Sunday was a once in a career mistake that he doesn’t do again. He’s got great talent, and he would be a great addition to a team needing a quality WR.
Any help or insight would be appreciated, and again Congratulations and good luck!
Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions
by HuskerDolphin on Jan 20, 2009 11:52 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
It could be a possibility..
But a lot of people don’t realize he is still under contract for 2 more years. And even if he asks to be traded in the offseason again, management has shown they won’t do it no matter how much attention it draws. I would expect that if we win the super bowl, he will get a new deal. But its hard to say really.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 20, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Drew ....alright, won't repeat his full name in my mind...Rosenhaus suggested Boldin wanted to go back to Florida in training camp
First thought was Tampa Bay. Dolphins? Sure. Jaguars? Highest draft position of the lot? Hmmm…
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on Jan 20, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
jags would be great.
They fit his physical mentality to a T. They are in need of a true #1 receiver. They are back in Florida where he wants to be. And they could get us a much higher pick in the draft.
by hevchv on Jan 20, 2009 7:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the input guys
I just think there is way to much speculation out there yet. Lots of things have to happen before anyone really knows what Boldins future will be. Personally, I think the Dolphins chances are very slim. I don’t see Parcells and Ireland giving up lots of draft picks for him, thats just not their philosophy. IF I was the Cards GM, and was going to trade him, then I agree with what was posted above, you could get higher, and maybe more draft picks via Jacksonville or Tampa. Lots of if’s yet. Again thanks for the responses, and if anyone else has some input, feel free to post it here.
Good Luck in the Super Bowl! This has to be a huge moment for you all!
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