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Anyone Interested in Shawne Merriman?

Ok so mid-season trades aren't common place in the NFL especially with marque players and Ken Whisenhunt isn't the type of coach who likes to "shake things up" but the thought of adding a legitimate pass rusher to this defense is just too intriguing to ignore. According to multiple reports Merriman and the Chargers' GM don't exactly see eye to eye and they not expected to retain his services next year (he'll be a free agent). We all know Merriman, his ability to rush the passer, his injury and his history with sticking needles in his rear end, but would he be a good fit for the Arizona Cardinals?

First we'd have to know the answer to two questions, how healthy is he and what would it take to get him?

  • Health: They guys at Bolts from the Blue (Chargers' SBN site) all seem to agree that Merriman isn't 100% yet and his stat line certainly seems to agree. He seriously has not sacked a quarterback in a regular season game since December 30, 2007 but this is also a 25 year old player with 39.5 career sacks, three All-Pro selections and rookie defensive player of the year award under his belt. Eventually he'll be healthy and if the Cardinals were patient with him they might just end up with the best pass rusher in the NFL.
  • How much: Make no mistake about it, the Chargers haven't hung a "Clearance" sign on Merriman's neck. Whoever inquires about him in a trade is trading for a guy who averaged over 13 sacks per season from '05 to '07, not the guy who missed 15 games last year and has already missed one game this season. At the very least you're probably talking about a first round pick and maybe talking about the same value that the Cardinals were asking in return for Boldin (first and a third).
  • To throw a third 'iron in the fire,' Merriman's contract status would have to be evaluated before/during trade talks. Under the current labor agreement (set to expire at the end of this season), he'll be a free agent this off season (UFA), but if a new labor agreement isn't reached (as is looking more and more likely), he would be a RFA so he'd be under control for at least one more season.

The bottom line in my mind is that Merriman would instantly upgrade the pass rush and would almost certainly be better than any OLB that we could draft in the first round next year, especially considering he'll be more healthy. So if the trade is him for a our first round pick, I'd think long and hard, but what if it's more than that? Does Merriman help put this defense into elite status if he's a consistent pass rusher this season?

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Another linebacker who's mentioned as being "avaliable" is the Chiefs' Derrick Johnson, who has lost the starting job in Kansas City but is still young (26) and has some talent. He started 58 games during his first four seasons and put up decent stat lines, averaging 87 tackles and three sacks per season. He's got decent size (6-3, 242) but has spent most of his career as a 4-3 OLB. He's officially listed as a backup at ILB in the Chiefs new 3-4 defense his size would at least suggest that he could handle the inside. Johnson may or may not be a future starter on the inside of a 3-4 defense but for a team that's very thin at the position and could possibly lose their best ILB next summer, he's an intriguing name. His loss of starting spot means that his asking price should also plummet. Maybe the Chiefs would take a mid-round or later pick or maybe Todd Haley would like one of "his guys" like Jerheme Urban or something like that plus a late round pick. Thoughts?

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Revenge of the Birds' (ROTB) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of ROTB's editors.

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I like Merriman but I do not think this is going to happen.

Right now he is not playing very well and I do not think a change on scenery will really make an impact on his play either. It is obvious that his knee surgery is still bothering him and I wonder if he came back too quick.

I also think his salary has to come into the picture. His salary for this season is not bad as Roto World is saying it is around 2.9 million but I am worried about his future salary. How much is he going to want in the future? I think he will be trying to get around the same deal Terrell Suggs got in Baltimore, which would most likely be out of the Cardinals price range (unless we decide we do not want Q, fix Rolle’s inflated salary, and decide not to resign Dansby).

After all this is said and done I don’t think he really makes an impact for us if we trade for him this season. If we do not trade for him this season a lot has to happen to make what he would be potentially wanting in free agency with figuring out what we are doing with our players on our team right now. Also, Whiz does not seem to like going out and getting big name free agents, he seems to like getting players that could end up being very good and add depth. I just do not see us going after Merriman.

I think the same goes for the Chiefs Derrick Johnson. He has produced in the past and has been very good but seems to not fit into the 3-4 alignment. He also is a free agent next year so it would depend on what he is asking for. It does not make sense to trade or sign, in the offseason, a player for a high price that might not fit into our style of play.

by Pyromnc on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

he isn't worth more than a 3rd round pick

I would be SHOCKED if any team in the league would give up a 1st for Shawne “roid rage” Merriman

by CardsDefense on Oct 14, 2009 11:41 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

A first round pick is too much for him and that is exactly what San Diego is asking for.

by Pyromnc on Oct 14, 2009 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is 4 tackles in as many games (or whatever the stat is) an “elite” pass rusher? Yeah, he was a good rusher two seasons ago, but his knee got shredded and he hasn’t shown that he’ll be able to regain that form once again. Besides, his deal is up at the end of the year, so unless we’re looking to trade a very high draft pick for a one year, possibly-still-hurting edge rusher, no. Definitely no.

by Chg91 on Oct 15, 2009 12:54 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

he may not be healthy yet but he's 25 years old so there's a very good chance that he'll get healthy

Also he is entering the final year of his deal but unless the league agrees on a new CBA in the very near future (which is seeming more and more unlikely by the minute) he’ll be a RESTRICTED free agent b/c he’s only be in the league for five seasons.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Oct 19, 2009 6:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless

I think he’s crap. He could only do anything when he was roided out. Now that he’s cleaned up he’s a joke. He acts like a leader and he doesn’t prove that he can even lead. He makes me laugh whenever they show him on TV.

Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 20, 2009 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was busted for roids in 2006 (his second year in the league)

So he hasn’t exactly sucked ever since.

 - After coming back from suspension in 2006 he posted 8.5 sacks in the final five games (plus another in the playoffs.
 - In 2007 he posted 12.5 sacks in 15 games and another one in the playoffs.

Bottom line is roids may have helped him become an amazing player but he was still damn good after he came back from suspension.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Oct 21, 2009 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once you stop using, doesn't mean it leaves your body right away

I’m sure he was full of it that season. And like you said, he used it to get where he was at. Over the past couple years since he’s been off of it, he doesn’t look as productive to me. He’s a joke.

Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 21, 2009 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs


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