Kurt Warner Amazed at Lack of National Recognition
by Andrew602 on Oct 28, 2009 9:55 AM MDT
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In an interview with local radio station, KTAR 620, Kurt Warner was asked if he felt the Cardinals received enough recognition after their win over the New York Giants on Sunday night. Warner, obviously irritated by the lack of praise on ESPN, stated how much he's amazed that people still view the Arizona Cardinals as a "second ra
te team". This is a pressing issue at times, as the Cardinals were labeled the worst team in playoff and Super Bowl history last year. They played the no respect card to get them that far, before falling short to the Pittsburgh Steelers. After that run, critics continued to rip the Cardinals, calling last year's run a fluke. Here's what Warner had to say:
You know, I don't think a lot of people care about it but... there's always a part of you that want people to recognize what you're doing, and you want them to recognize the things that you represent. And that's one of the things that I don't think we get enough of. And yeah, maybe rightfully so that we haven't had a lot of success here so you understand it. ...I watched some highlights on ESPN yesterday, and they didn't show a single offensive highlight of the Arizona Cardinals when they talked about our game. It was all focused on the Giants and granted we made some plays in there, but it just continually amazes you that after the success we had last year and going to the Super Bowl, that we still don't get very much national recognition. ...People continue to think of us, I think as a second rate team and organization, and that's what we want to change and we want to make sure you know the guys in that locker room, that we get the credit that we deserve for the football that were playing.
This is obviously something the Cardinals feed off of, but after starting the season 3-0 on the road, it remains evident that they're trying to prove that they belong in the category of an elite team. What are your thoughts on the situation? Are the Cardinals destined to remain a second rate team to the eyes of critics?
You can here the whole interview here - Kurt Warner Interview.
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No.
But national recognition can’t be forced – it must be earned.
The one thing holding the franchise back is consistency. You cannot allow yourself to lose four preseason games in a row, followed by a home loss to the Niners and get pulverized by the Colts and expect anyone to kiss your ring because of how good you looked 8 months ago.
GBR
by jeffgollin@aol.com on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Last season… first team in the NFL to clinch a berth in the playoffs… an NFC Championship victory over the Eagles featuring an epic final drive to seal the game…. numerous offensive records set in the playoffs (Warner, Fitz).
This season… 3-0 on the road.
The Cards have earned respect… respect that they aren’t getting it from the East-coast-centric sports media.
The Giants continue to get respect. Even though they lost their 1st round playoff game last season AT HOME… And who have the Giants beaten this year? Nobody good. And we just spanked them thoroughly in their own house, and ESPN still has them ahead of the Cards in their “power rankings”.
That’s some serious Cardinal disrespect.
As for our 0-4 record in preseason. Who cares??? It was just practice with two new coordinators and no game-planning. Besides, the only ones who complained about preseason that I remember were the ever-dwindling cadre of leinart loons who claimed that our weak preseason was evidence that we should bench our MVP-candidate Kurt Warner to make way for the bumbling, injury-prone, weak-armed primadonna.
by HardHat on Oct 28, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick Question
HOW has Washington “earned” any respect? They get tons of national coverage?
Here is a list of others:
Dallas? (Haven’t won a playoff game in 10+ years)
San Diego (Continually do not make the SB, squeak into the playoffs, horrible year this year)
Bills (Hear so much about them but they always suck)
Jets (WHY?)
Raiders (Who Cares)
Here are some that don’t get enough:
Cardinals
Seahawks (Had 4 great years never heard anything)
Dolphins (Other than the occasional wildcat story you never hear about how they won their division last year)
Cincinnati (Starting to finally get more pub. why them and not us?)
by thereallacardsfan on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fans
Bezekira said it best “Is ESPN there to provide unbiased coverage of the NFL as well as other sports or are they there to cater to what the vast majority of the Nation wants to see?”
All the networks cater to what the nation wants to see, look at baseball if your not the Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, Angels, or Cubs no one cares. Football is the same way, if your not named the Giants, Jets, Patriots, Cowboys, Steelers, Bills, Raiders, Niners, Redskins, or Chargers no one cares. Those team have strong fan bases where as we do not have the big of a fan base. We just started to build the fan base here. If we can stay good for long enough we will be mentions with those teams that get all the coverage.
by Pyromnc on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington really?
I guess I don’t hear a ton of national coverage on the Redskins. They definitely get more than the Cardinals but alot of that has to do with the fact that they’re on the east coast and they have a high profile owner. They’re getting coverage right now because they’re a train wreck and people love train wrecks.
Dallas – Just accept the fact that the Cowboys will always get more attention and respect than they deserve. They’re the Notre Dame of the NFL and it’s easier to just accept that and move on than to keep banging your head against the wall.
San Diego – Haven’t had a losing season since 2003 and has been to the playoffs in four of the last five years. There are about 20 teams in the league that would love to be able to say that.
Bills – Who talks about the Bills? I must have missed that segment of Sports Center.
Jets – Because they’re the J-E-T-S and oh yea they’re in NEW YORK. That’s really all you need to know.
Raiders – Train wreck!! I love hearing news about the Raiders, don’t you?
The answer for most of these is pretty simple. Life is not fair. ESPN, Fox Sports, Sports Illustrated cater to the masses, not to retirement-ville Arizona. They have zero, check that less than zero, motivation or reason to cover all 32 NFL teams equally.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought I was the only one to compare them to Notre Dame.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Oct 28, 2009 8:02 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Rex Ryan's Comment
I remember in week 2 or 3 and interview with Rex Ryan where he commented that the Jets were a team that, “needs to be respected.” I just laughed when I heard this. Respect isn’t something that is asked for or given to; it’s earned.
Over time (weeks, seasons, decades) a team earns different levels of respect. The Cards are in a similar situation to where the Rams were during their Super Bowl runs. Only time will tell where the organization is 10 years from now…back where the Rams are now or on their way to an elite franchise like the Colts/Patriots/etc.
by CaliforniaCardFan on Oct 28, 2009 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
as much as I hate to disagree with KW
One and a half seasons isn’t enough to erase several decades of constantly being in the running for the worst franchise in football. If they want respect they have to earn it and the only way to do that is to keep winning. If they do that, the rest of this mess will take care of itself.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But what does that have to do with just airing highlights? Why show all of the Giants mistakes and not show what the Cardinals actually did? They won the game. That part doesnt make sense to me.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that opens a compelely different pandora's box if you ask me
Is ESPN there to provide unbiased coverage of the NFL as well as other sports or are they there to cater to what the vast majority of the Nation wants to see?
Whether or not we like and/or agree with it, the majority of fans around the Nation, especially casual fans, want to know why the Giants lost that game as opposed to how the Cardinals won it.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Oct 28, 2009 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is there to keep viewers watching so ESPN can sell advertising time for big $$
That means big market teams or teams with big followings get prime coverage.
Imagine how much less coverage there would be of small market/small following nfl teams and thier players if we did not all play fantasy football, pickem games, sports gambling, etc. These extra curricular activities at least generate some interest in even the lowly rams, buffalo, detroit, tb, jacksonville, etc.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Covering certain teams...yeah I can agree on that
But what difference does it make to not show any Cardinal highlights or make it seem like the Giants shot themselves in the foot? Are Giant fans too sensitive or does ESPN feel like they’ll lose New York fans if they show a Cardinal highlight. I don’t get the difference it makes when you’re just recapping the game.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 28, 2009 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're guess is as good as mine
Maybe they think that by presenting the game like that it’ll make some people think that the Giants are still the better team thus they still deserve more coverage. Or maybe the ESPN execs just truly believe that the Giants did more to lose that game than we did to win.
Either way I’m glad that we’ve got the NFLN. While they’re not completely unbiased, they do the best job of presenting the game as it was played.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea NFLN has been the best with that.
The gameday recap showed most of the key plays, including Cardinal’s plays. The total access shows didn’t show much but at least they got a couple plays of ours in.
by Pyromnc on Oct 28, 2009 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
I usually stick w/NFLN
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 28, 2009 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I am mildly surprised Beanie’s stiff arm/td run got no reconigtion at all.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Oct 28, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deon Sanders liked it
but seems like he is the only one.
A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.
by Sir Whirly on Oct 28, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but that's a good thing.
I think they don’t get as much recognition as they deserve, but I think that’s a good thing. There is a long history of mediocrity (at best) and, while I do believe this team is far removed from that, I also think they need to do more and work harder to truly earn the recognition. I think that the desire to be recognized as a good team can only make them stronger right now.
by psknapp on Oct 28, 2009 1:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
They don't get enough recognition.
But they feed off of that, and with what Whisenhunt has done since 2007, the Cardinals are becoming a damn good team that can beat almost anyone.
And they proved that on Sunday.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Oct 28, 2009 3:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Actions are Louder than Eastcoast Sports Preferential Network
I’ve been a fan of the Birds since 1988. Love ’em, and always have since they moved to the Valley and I was just a kid.
I’ve spent many a Sunday saying things to myself such as, “it was more difficult to screw that play up than it would have been to just execute!!!” and “how did the Cards manage to invent the worst play in the history of rocks?”
I’ve endured Joe Bugel, Buddy Ryan, Dave McGinnis, good ‘ol Denny Green, sweltering afternoons of punishing heat in those vaunted East bleachers at Sundevil Stadium watching losing season after losing season…I’ve endured the days of Tim Rosenbach/Chris Chandler/Steve Beurline…I’ve endured an organization that wasted talent such as Thomas Jones and Michael Pittman as if they were as valuable as one of Bill Bidwill’s stupid melted ice cream cones.
With the exception of a brief streak of excitement from #16 and the Cardiac Cards, as a bleeding RED Cardinals fan I’ve had a whole lot to complain about over that last 21 years.
All that considered, it’s really nice to be complaining about not getting the national coverage, credit or respect that we truly do deserve.
As a Birds Fan Forever, I’m sittin’ pretty happy these days…GO CARDS!!!
Below is a Pyrrhuloxia nest we discovered in a cholla near our home in the spring:
http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/ArizonaCardinals/turf.jpg
by Maynard Leopold on Oct 28, 2009 3:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you've seen it all
I’ve been there too, expect I seem to remember throwin my shoe through the TV. Welcome to ROTB by the way.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 28, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the Welcome!
I hear ya on the shoe throwing. I once sent a cereal bowl (complete with pink milk and soggy Trix) across the living room on some Sunday in 1996 or so…
Below is a Pyrrhuloxia nest we discovered in a cholla near our home in the spring:
http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/ArizonaCardinals/turf.jpg
by Maynard Leopold on Oct 28, 2009 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with warner
on NFL live they didnt even show DRC’s interception!! I couldnt believe it. They didnt even comment on beanie wells td run.
Go to NFL Network if you want good coverage. They showed all the highlights and made comments about the run and DRC’s int.
I hate even turning ESPN on these days.
by card-deville on Oct 28, 2009 3:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Some national attention on Monday Night
Chris Berman highlighted Beanie Wells’ touchdown on MNF Halftime Report. That was nice to see. The rest was about how much Eli Manning sucked. Which was nice to see also.
I think that when (not if) the Cardinals make to the playoffs again this year and go to the SB again, we will start to get some more national recognition.
The fact is that people usually only care about their hometown or current town sports team. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and I only pay attention to 49ers, Raiders, and the Cardinals in the news. ESPN and other media outlets know this and aim for the biggest audiences. They are a profit generating news channel, not PBS. I can forgive them for going for the larger target audience.
That said…it would be nice for more national attention and confidence.
-- Red headed Cardinals Fan
(Sort of like being the red-headed step child...everyone jokes about beating us a lot.)
by cdredhead on Oct 28, 2009 4:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
With how the Redskins were playing they had to find something good to talk about...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Oct 28, 2009 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN IS BIASED..............FACT
Just like any other bussiness, they cater to the masses. Thats why half the people glued to the tv… dont have a clue whats really going on…..like cattle or sheep…. lol
by RAM808 on Oct 28, 2009 4:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind the lack of recognition as of now
I think it motivates us but i don’t like the snide remarks by commentator’s like JJ (Jimmy Johnson)..I got a message for the likes of you JJ……..This bird’s for you mother-forker
by tigg on Oct 28, 2009 8:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
a dub
he has got 19 ints and 19 sacks and needs 1 more in each to be ontl the 9th person to have a 20 20 career. if that happens they can not sho it all they want but the hall of fame better not forget it when he retires
The Devil Birds just got cha
by DaCards on Oct 29, 2009 6:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He still has a lot of years left and must be in amazing shape.
Who knows what his final numbers will be. I know he said he wants to be in the 30/30 club.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 29, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Warner's frustration is warranted
ESPN’s eastern bias was on display again (as always). It was bad enough listening to them talk throughout last year’s playoffs about how bad we were, now that we’ve apparently turned another corner and are winning road games and beginning to establish ourselves as a team that can stop the run, there still isn’t any acknowledgement of it.
However, as Warner knows as well as anybody, the glare of the spotlight on the guy who’s holding the Lombardi trophy is pretty bright so there’s one way to force their hand…
by Long Beach on Oct 29, 2009 5:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
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