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RotB Pick'em: Week 4 Results & Week 5 Picks

Click on "Weekly Pick'em" and look at the original Week 1 post for the rest of the Rules Lawyer's Guide to Pick'em.

Click on "Weekly Pick'em" and look at the original Week 1 post for the rest of the Rules Lawyer's Guide to Pick'em.

The table is getting expansive as various tie-breakers sift out the standings with a new player to the Pick'em League at its acme.  Those with a winning percentage above 70% are in the first table; the rest are found on the subsequent table after the jump.  In addition to RottPhiler, seven other participants posted 7-1 records in Week 4 and earned 0.12 Week Won Points.  Congratulations RottPhiler et. al.

It wouldn't be a RotB Pick'em League unless the Rules Lawyer made an appearance at least once.  As some have noticed and commented, there is a "loop hole" in the rules that allows a participant to pick some games but withhold the the MNF game pick until after seeing the results from their first seven picks.  If their record is good and the MNF match-up "obvious", then a MNF pick is made and the week "counts".  If their record is poor and/or the MNF game doesn't have a heavy favourite, the game isn't picked and the whole week's results are "thrown out".  This is the "Elmer Fudd Tactic" as Drullin'OverDaCards insinuated via metaphor.  As we can all recall from our Looney Tune youth, Bugs Bunny always outwitted Elmer and thus the Rules Lawyers have a new decree:

Any week that has a Thursday game as one of the eight selected games, the entire week's selected games must be picked before the Thursday game kick-off.

So Elmer Fudd is welcome to go "huntin' for wabbits" Week 2 through 9, but the remainder of the schedule it's pick'em or skip'em.  My stalling tactic to see who Red Reign picks minutes before the Sunday AM games is no longer valid either.  Bummer.  So not only do Thursday games mess with your fantasy football line-up, they force your hand prematurely at Pick'em.  Geez, you are a dick "Hawk".

Overall Pick'em Standings Through Week 4

Username Correct Wrong % Weeks Played Week Won Pnts
RottPhiler 7 1 .875 1 0.12
Bezekira 20 4 .833 3 0.26
robloosli 25 7 .781 4 0.06
hevchv 24 8 .750 4 1.12
JoeCB1991 24 8 .750 4 0.06
Phil7178 12 4 .750 2 0.06
Drullin'OverDaCards 12 4 .750 2 0
don f, SenSurround, Undrafteds 6 2 .750 1 0
StuckinColorado 23 9 .719 4 0.32
CARDSxFAN32, Hibernian, TBru 23 9 .719 4 0.2
azcardswinez 23 9 .719 4 0.18
bclairao, Red Reign, Travis23 23 9 .719 4 0.06
Carddan, CardsIrish 23 9 .719 4 0
wongy 17 7 .708 3 0.12
AJ Birdwatcher 17 7 .708 3 0

Star-divide

Pick'em Overall Standings Through Week 4 Continued

Username Correct Wrong % Weeks Picked Week Won Pnts
card-deville, Chg91 22 10 .688 4 0.06
Cuckoo for Coco Puffs, Hawkwind, jallred350, Pyromnc, Tim V 22 10 .688 4 0
Giannaros, sc464 16 8 .667 3 0.06
Desert_Bird_Watcher, Irishcardinal 21 11 .656 4 0.12
Andrew602 21 11 .656 4 0.06
b0rdrline, Thomaldo 20 12 .625 4 0.06
KDean75 15 9 .625 3 0.06
CARDstuckinVA 10 6 .625 2 0
Xquizyt 5 3 .625 1 0
kj197728 19 13 .594 4 0
boogatt66 9 7 .563 2 0
thereallacardsfan 8 8 .500 2 0

 

Cincinnati and Cleveland haven't gotten much "love" on the Selected Games section so make their first appearances on the slate of eight games.  I imagine NBC wishes they could flex out the Colts/Titans game in favour of the Patriots/Broncos game at this point.

Week 5 Pick'em Selected Games

Away Home Date/Time (ET) Network DirecTV
CIN BAL Sun, 1 PM CBS 704
CLE BUF Sun, 1 PM CBS 705
WAS CAR Sun, 1 PM FOX 709
ATL SF Sun, 4:05 PM FOX 712
HOU ARI Sun, 4:15 PM CBS 713
NE DEN Sun, 4:15 PM CBS 714
IND TEN Sun, 8:20 PM NBC
NYJ MIA Mon, 8:30 PM ESPN 206

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Before I forget with all the packing...

Baltimore (The Bengals are the AFC’s Cardinals so I’m happy for them with their start but an irked 52 could literally get you shot)
Cleveland (Anderson nearly did enough to get a tie last week, against the struggling Bills, that should be a W)
Carolina (Redskins are the medicine they need on both sides of the ball)
Atlanta (Old NFC West match-up, Ryan will help the Cards out)
Arizona (As long as BSP doesn’t finish this game, we should be okay)
New England (How did the imploding Broncos end up 4-0?)
Indianapolis (Colts have been on the Pick’em Schedule so much you’d think they were in the NFC West)
NYJets (’Phins and Jets too)

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Oct 6, 2009 6:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You wascally wabbits!

Bal
Buf
Car
SF
Ari
NE
Ind

I picked Fudd as I expect my strategy to work about as well for me as it does for Mr. Fudd.

Putting on the rules lawyer hat – When the thursday games start will it still be allowed to change picks up until start time of the game being changed?

I for one am fine with changing the rule effective immediately. I would suggest the rule when changed be: In your first post you have to pick all 8 games, but can change (but not eliminate) any pick up until game time of each individual game.

Respectfully submitted,

E. Fudd, Esq.

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Oct 6, 2009 9:13 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on that

I don’t think there’s any problem changing picks, I just don’t think you should be able to strategically NOT pick on purpose.

Put your best 8 guesses out there, and change them a million times if you want to, but at each game time you’re locked in.

by bcloirao on Oct 6, 2009 11:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The latest time-stamped entry is the "boss"...

…as long it posts before the respective kick-off times. So if JaMarcus Russell falls off the bus just before the game and cracks his head open, you can change your Raider pick to be in favour of them since any other QB gives them a better chance of winning.

The Elmer Fudd Tactic is a clever use of of the rule from last year that was in place for folks that forgot about the Thursday game and picked it just before kick-off. Rather than make hasty decisions on the rest of the week’s games, they were allowed give those remaining picks at a later time. Using that flexibility to ween out a bad week of picks is smart, frankly, even if a bit “cheesy”. So rather than squelch the cleverness entirely, stalling on the MNF game is only available for part of the season, weeks that don’t have Thursday games.

Forcing people to pick the eight games before the Thursday game will hopefully lead to some hasty decisions which could “mix up” the standings and add some drama to the Pick’em League.

A more common tactic used is to just not pick a particular week that has tough games. If you have a nice record and don’t want to drop in the standings, just skip the week entirely. That’s something that can be done up to eight times.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Oct 8, 2009 7:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Week 5 picks

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
IND
MIA

"There are preachermen on TV in a suit and a tie, they tell you to send your money to the Lord, but they give you their address" Hank Williams Jr.

by StuckinColorado on Oct 6, 2009 9:50 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ravens
Bills
Panthers
Falcons
Cardinals
Patriots
Colts
Jets

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 6, 2009 10:21 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Bal
Buf
Car
SF
AZ
NE
Ind
NYJ

When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again. True story.
-Barney Stinson

by Red Reign on Oct 6, 2009 10:50 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Week 5 Picks

Baltimore
Buffalo
Carolina
Atlanta
Arizona
Denver
Indianapolis
New Jersey

by Pyromnc on Oct 6, 2009 11:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Week 5 Picks

I am taking some shots at these games. Some are going to be too close to call.

BAL
CLE
WAS
SF
ARI
DEN
IND
MIA

by kj197728 on Oct 6, 2009 12:25 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Redoing my Week 5 Picks.

CIN – The Bengals come back stronger after a mediocre game last week.
BUF – Browns won’t do what they did against Cincy.
WAS – Their defense and running game put them ahead.
SF – Too strong for the Falcons.
ARI – Texans struggle against the 3-4 and I think we finally see a run game out of Wells.
DEN – Brady always struggles at Denver. People shouldn’t doubt the Broncos this year.
IND – I think Titans try to win this one but the Colts are doing too good now.
MIA – Miami is on fire and I think Sanchez still isn’t ready for a MNF matchup.

by kj197728 on Oct 7, 2009 5:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

miami won their first game last week.. i don't consider that being "on fire"

... we sittin here talking about practice. not a game, not a game.

by wongy on Oct 9, 2009 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Henne <> On Fire

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Oct 11, 2009 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I have to say something there. Miami has been close to winning and finally pulled it out last week. See I got some tough games like CIN and DEN picked right and others like WAS and BUF end up blowing it for me by winning.

by kj197728 on Oct 11, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

meant WAS and BUF end up losing by 3. I was trying to say by not winning for me.

by kj197728 on Oct 11, 2009 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My picks

Baltimore – This team is more hungry then the browns
Buffalo – Cleveland will have problems on the road
Carolina – they will get their first win
San Francisco – San Fran is too physical for Atlanta
Arizona – cards win after extra week of rest
New England – Broncos will get exposed
Indianapolis – Too easy
Jets – Miami won’t have the same rushing success they had last week

Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
Revenge of the Birds

by Andrew602 on Oct 6, 2009 12:40 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Baltimore
Buffalo
Carolina
Atlanta
Cards
New England
Indy
New Jersey Jets

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Oct 6, 2009 7:04 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Boom!

BAL
CLE
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
IND
NYJ

by bcloirao on Oct 6, 2009 11:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

BAL
BUF
WAS
SF
ARI
DEN
IND
NYJ

AYFK

by Desert_Bird_Watcher on Oct 6, 2009 11:26 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Week 5 Picks

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
IND
NYJ

by Travis23 on Oct 6, 2009 11:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Week 5 picks

CIN – Baltimore is FLAT after being cheated out of/losing to the Pats because of Clayton’s drop.
CLE – Derek Anderson at least has the arm to air it out, and the Bills’ secondary is currently lacking their starting FS, starting SS and starting CB. They get the nod here, and avoid a 1-15 record.
CAR – Lets see who disappoints the least.
SF – Falcons simply have no offense, while San Fran shouldn’t have a problem shutting down Turner and forcing Ryan to beat them. And here’s the kicker – I don’t think he can.
ARI – Because if they don’t, I swear to god…
NE – This’ll be interesting in that Belichick will basically be tasked with shutting down his very own offense. Denver’s defense is better (yes, that’s right), but I’ll take Brady and his weapons over Orton any day of the week.
IND – TEN will go balls out, but Peyton is simply insane right now. He’s the best football player in the league, and it isn’t even close. Without a consistent pass rush, he’ll have all the time he needs to do what every other QB has done this year – shred the Titans’ overrated secondary.
NYJ – Miami gave it their all the last time they were on prime time, but I just don’t see them having the defense or offense to put away the Jets, though they sure as hell will try their best yet again.

by Chg91 on Oct 7, 2009 5:11 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

About CLE

I meant 0-16. Of course. =P

by Chg91 on Oct 7, 2009 5:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
DEN
IND
NYJ

by TBru on Oct 7, 2009 8:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Week 5

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
IND
NYJ

Only one upset picked. I thought the SEA/JAX should have seen some action.

by Carddan on Oct 7, 2009 10:58 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't want 6 of the 8 games to be "late" games

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Oct 8, 2009 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

First To Pick Houston

That’s right. I’ll be the first to pick against the cards.
BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
HOU
NE
IND
NYJ

by Tim V on Oct 7, 2009 11:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

and you’ll be wrong.

by Carddan on Oct 11, 2009 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

week 5

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
IND
MIA

Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.

by sc464 on Oct 7, 2009 1:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Week 5 PICKS!!!!

Here we go……
BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
AZ
NE
IND
NYJ

by azcardswinez on Oct 7, 2009 3:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
TEN
NYJ

We are red, we are white, we are Danish Dynamite!

by Thomaldo on Oct 8, 2009 7:39 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

WEEK 5 PICKS

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
TEN
NYJ

by CARDSxFAN32 on Oct 8, 2009 2:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

CORRECTION NEEDED

I was given credit for 7 wins last week when I only had 6. I changed my original pick of New England beating Baltimore to Baltimore beating New England before the game started. I also had Tennessee winning which didn’t happen. By my count that puts me at 25 wins and 7 losses for the season, and a weeks won score of .06 still. Although I will gladly take the extra win, it was given in error. Let judgement be passed and a ruling made…

Having said my piece, here are my picks for the week:

Baltimore
Buffalo
Carolina
Atlanta
Arizona
Denver
Indianapolis
Ny Jets

by robloosli on Oct 9, 2009 9:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Noted, thank you for bringing it to my attention, I missed the change in my spreadsheet.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Oct 11, 2009 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

BAL-
CLE-
CAR-
ATL-
ARI-
DEN-
IND-
NYJ-

by card-deville on Oct 9, 2009 12:27 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ravens
Bills
Panthers
Falcons
Cardinals
Broncos
Colts
Jets

by jallred350 on Oct 9, 2009 1:19 PM MDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

BAL – after coming off a heartbreaker, they’re gonna be out for blood.
BUF – their running game will make up for their lack of everything else.
CAR – deangelo williams is overrated. redskins suck.
SF – patrick willis patrick willis patrick willis ‘nough said.
HOU – matt schaub/aj too much for our secondary.
DEN – brady got lucky last week.
IND – they’re clicking on all cylinders.
NYJ – sanchez will bounce back.

... we sittin here talking about practice. not a game, not a game.

by wongy on Oct 9, 2009 10:51 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

my reverse psychology strategy of picking AGAINST us

doesn’t help me in these standings :/

... we sittin here talking about practice. not a game, not a game.

by wongy on Oct 11, 2009 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

week 5!

BAL
CLE
CAR
ATL
ARI
DEN
IND
NYJ

World Series '09 - In Memory of #34 Nick Adenhart!

by b0rd3rline on Oct 10, 2009 3:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

picks

BAL
BUF
CAR
SF
ARI
NE
IND
NYJ

by Irishcardinal on Oct 11, 2009 6:29 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I should skip this week, cause I'm feeling too good with my picks. But I'm way too competitive for that.

Bal- Cin comes back down to earth.
Buf- Buf gets out of their own grave.
Car- With the riff between Portis and his fullback, I could see blocking of “The Program” persuasion.
ATL- Honestly think SF wins, but we need to catch up.
Ari- See above.
NE- Don’t ask me why.
Ind- Be a shocker if they didn’t win.
NYJ- Who has the better D?

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Oct 11, 2009 10:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Week 5

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
ARI
NE
IND
NYJ

by Hibernian on Oct 11, 2009 10:24 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

BAL
BUF
CAR
ATL
AZ
NE
IND
NYJ

Section 135, Row 35

by AJ BirdWatcher on Oct 11, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Thanks for the pickem game. It is good fun (mainly because I got lucky) :-)

Whats up doc?

by RottPhiler on Oct 12, 2009 2:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs


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