Arizona Cardinals vs Houston Texans: Who Has The Edge?
In week three I started a new segment breaking down position group by position group, determining which team had the "edge" to their respective groups. I could'nt have been more wrong, predicting that the Cardinals had the edge against the Colts. Although, nobody could have determined that they'd implode the way that they did, either way I was wrong. This week we break down who has the edge between the Cardinals and the Texans, and the results were very close. As I said before, I'll keep this as less bias as possible, and if I don't, feel free to sound the homer alarm. The table takes up way too much space on the home page so the results are after the jump...
| Pos. | Edge | Analysis |
QB |
The grey beard wins this battle. |
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HB |
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This one's close but at least |
WR |
Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald |
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TE |
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Owen Daniels has emerged |
OL |
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Two below average offensive |
DL |
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Mario Williams and Antonio |
LB |
The Cardinals should get Chike |
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CB |
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The Texans pass defense is 9th in |
S |
Although the Cardinals pass defense |
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ST |
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I had to go with stats on this one |
| Coach |
Until Gary Kubiak can get the Texans |
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| Edge - | Split |
It's safe to say that both teams |
After looking over the table several times, I'm sure that both teams have very similar styles and are in similar situations at this point in the season. Both need a win this week to avoid falling away from the division leaders. Is there any positions you feel could be changed?
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slight disagreement
DL – Any defensive line that has Mario Williams is better than ours. He’s better than Dockett and Campbell is better than Smith so it’s a wash at that point, but defensive tackle pushes the Texans over the top in my mind. Okoye is still really young (22) despite being in his third season and has tons of potential.
LB – Talent wise I think this is almost a wash but if factor in contracts and age, I’d take the Texans. DeMeco Ryans is very close to Dansby talent wise and he’s only 25. Cushing is obviously a rookie but his three game sample size looks awful promising. Considering their entire linebacking corps is 25 years old or younger, I’d take youth over our mix of 30-somethings.
CB – As some of the Texans’ guys have been saying already their pass defense numbers are deceiving b/c they haven’t played a single team with a strong passing attack and teams have been able to run at will against them. When you looking individually at Dunta Robinson and Fred Bennett, you’ve a got one very good player who’s struggled staying healthy and third year player who lost the starting job last year. When healthy Robinson isn’t a ballhawk but he’s still better than DRC or McFadden but both our guys are better than Bennett. It’s at least even without knowing much about the Texan’s depth at corner.
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by Bezekira on Oct 7, 2009 6:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
On the Brian Cushing topic...
As a football fan, you will love the way he plays. In the jacksonville game I watched him run THROUGH the leadblocker on one play on his way to destroying Jones-Drew. The guy is a beast and really fun to watch.
Our secondary is weak though, which is NOT GOOD when you are playing Arizona. This game for us will hinge on our front seven getting Warner out of his comfort zone. If we give him time to pass, we lose.
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by TexansForever on Oct 7, 2009 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
True but
You can’t blame terrible run defense on the DBs, so that falls on the defensive line/linebackers. As far as the Texans defensive backs, I’m in no way saying they are the best in the NFL, just better then ours, which should be obvious at this point.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 7, 2009 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually the big runs that account for most of our bad run defense
Were the results of Safeties being caught out of position on several occasions.
Last week we had no mental mistakes and the result was far different.
Can we keep it up? I’m not holding my breath, but it APPEARS to be improving.
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by TexansForever on Oct 7, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is spot on
Totally agree with your assessment of the different positions. The only thing that I would add is that their back-ups at CB have more consistent starting experience and definitely more up-side potentially.
by Cardsfan81 on Oct 7, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has nothing to do with this post or the Cards, but I didn't want to make a new post.
WR News:
Braylon Edwards has reportedly been traded to the Jets. Terms have not been disclosed yet.
Michael Crabtree has signed with the 9ers. Once he is in football shape, could he help open up the passing game for them? They are already extremely good in the running and short passing game.
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by hevchv on Oct 7, 2009 7:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree should open up the passing game for them but not for awhile. He knows nothing about the offense and WR is generally one of the harder positions to adjust to coming out of college. If Crabtree plays this year he won’t make a significant difference for that team.
by Pyromnc on Oct 7, 2009 7:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea agreed
He’s missed too much time to contribute much until later in the season. Even if he signs this week, I bet he won’t have much of an impact for at least another month.
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by Bezekira on Oct 7, 2009 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braylon trade
I wonder how high the picks are b/c the two guys they got Stucki and Trusnik look like some spares.
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by Bezekira on Oct 7, 2009 7:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am hearing 3rd and 5th round from Doug and Wolf.
by Pyromnc on Oct 7, 2009 7:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if that is true though since everyone else is still saying “undisclosed”.
by Pyromnc on Oct 7, 2009 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, I wonder what Browns fans think of this move.......
I know if we traded Boldin for this pile of mediocrity I’d be upset.
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by Bezekira on Oct 7, 2009 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably the most they could get for him.
In 5 years he has had 1 good year, which was 2007 when he had the 16 touchdowns. Other than that season he hasn’t really lived up to being the 3rd overall pick in the 2005 draft. He had all those drops last year and this year he’s been held catchless. He has also had the legal issues making him a distraction.
I don’t know if they could have gotten better than what they got.
by Pyromnc on Oct 7, 2009 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stucki is not that bad either.
He is a big play deep threat if I’m not mistaken. Lotsa speed.
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by hevchv on Oct 7, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, you might be right. I don't ever rememeber seeing him play but the stats don't scream deep threat
11.2 yards per catch last year and 10.9 this year.
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by Bezekira on Oct 7, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stucki has had a better year so far.
They gave up too much.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 7, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good analysis by the way...
I would actually say that Warner and Schaub are almost a wash. Both are explosive and accurate when they are on, but neither is entirely consistent and neither plays overly well under defensive pressure.
Warner obviously has the experience edge though, but I think this is a close call.
I also think you will be surprised at how well the Texans LB corps actually plays. They don’t have Arizona experience, but they are incredibly fast and physically talented as well as extremely aggressive.
This will be a fun game to watch.
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by TexansForever on Oct 7, 2009 8:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Sorry to take over the blog. Back to the subject.
I think overall Houston has the better DEs as a whole, especially against OUR tackles (who doesn’t). Now, with that said, would our familiarity with Antonio Smith be able to neutralize some of his effectiveness against our tackles. They did go up against each other for years. Yes he is in a different system, but I’m sure tendencies and quirks are a little harder to disguise.
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by hevchv on Oct 7, 2009 9:31 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
true about Smith but the same could be said from his side
I’m sure he’s very familar with Levi suck-titude.
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by Bezekira on Oct 7, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I give the edge to Smith.
*Shutters at the thought on Sunday.
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by Andrew602 on Oct 7, 2009 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as CB goes
There is no way possible that what you have at CB is better than the Texans. They have given up all kinds of ridiculous 3rd and longs to the likes of David Garrard, and Kerry Collins. If the Raiders weren’t SO inept they would’ve made Jamarcus Russell look like Elway. The Texans needed a whopping 9 or 10 drops to keep the 3rd down conversion rate low, and to me that is about 8 more strokes of luck than what you usually get in the NFL. Our CB2 is literally a dude we drafted in the 4th round this year who is starting because Jacques Reeves is hurt (he’s not that good) and Fred Bennett is terrible. Dunta Robinson has only been promising one year out of the 5 he’s played.
As far as LB goes, if they can play a disciplined game of football they can be outstanding. Unfortunately Zac Diles and Brian Cushing both lack the experience you want and it has shown on a lot of the blown plays you see on highlight reels. I imagine that since the Texans have such a torrid time with the 3-4 (Hell the Jags used it a lot on us and it worked well enough) I can see the Cardinal LB’s having a great game.
All that being said, this match-up is still pretty even, and hopefully both teams will put their best foot forward.
by b0ng on Oct 7, 2009 9:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That is supposed to read:
“There is no way possible that what you have at CB is worsethan the Texans.
by b0ng on Oct 7, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
our secondary...
is a work in progress. but going forward, here’s what we should look like:
CB1 – Dunta Robinson
CB2 – Fred Bennett OR Quinn… depends.
FS – Eugene Wilson
SS – Bernard “Bonecrusher” Pollard
i’ll take our chances with this group. there’s a lot of potential there… and all of them are young guys, with room to grow. and while your coach may have been to a superbowl… our coach has already won a couple. albeit for another team, but i still give the advantage to Koob. pretty much everything else, i agree with.
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by chrisd21 on Oct 8, 2009 8:35 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to be picky, but both coached have rings as coordinators.
And our coach has made there as the head man.
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