The Sky Is Not Falling On The Cardinals

by mbn on Nov 1, 2009 7:05 PM MST Comment 73 comments

I was concerned about the Panthers game. They are a talented team and should have a much better record, but Delhomme kept losing the games for them by his stupid mistakes. The Panthers got smart and didn't make Delhomme do too much against the Cardinals, and the Cards couldn't get much done to force the issue. Panthers have a good defense and a good running game, and if Delhomme doesn't need to throw too much then they can play with anyone.

Nevertheless, it is a disappointing loss and I have mentioned that I thought this game would be more or a barometer of where the Cards are than the Giants game. So what have I learned... The Cards are pretty much what I thought; (no Denny Green reference intended), a 9-7 or 10-6 team that will still likely win the division. Actually the Cards have the exact record I thought they would have after 7 games, I just had them losing to the Giants and beating the Panthers.

As odd as it sounds, this game wasn't that significant in the big picture, (the Giants win gave them some cushion). I realize all wins are important and you nenver know what game will be significant until the end of the season but in the NFC West the key is to win the division games. I really think the key to the season will be to sweep the remaining division games, all games they should win given the Cards' talent level. If they are able to win their division games that would put their win total at 8. By my thinking then they would need to win 1-2 more games outside the division to win the division; Detroit and/or Tennessee come to mind.

If they lose any more division games then obviously they will have to make up the difference outside the division and that increases the level of difficulty to make the playoffs. Although I honestly think that the Cards can beat any of the teams outside of the division left on their schedule, (Bears, Vikings, Packers, and the fore mentioned Titans and Lions), wins within the division is what is paramount.

The loss to the Panthers frustrates like any loss but the Panthers are a good team and they have a lot of talent, more than any other team in the division and more than any other team on the horizon, except Packers and Vikings. I do not think the sky is falling. It was just one of those games.

Now if the Cards lose to Seattle, St. Louis, or San Fran then I may start to get nervous.

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yea I agree this loss isn't the end of the world

but I think it signifies kind of what most are saying. We’re looking at a 9-7 team instead of a 11-5 team. We’re good but we’re not anywhere near elite.

Things can change (either way) over the next month or two but for now this regular season team looks very much like last year’s regular season squad.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 2, 2009 10:03 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

That Tennessee game looks a lot mroe difficult now.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 2, 2009 11:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

*more

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 2, 2009 11:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, before this melt-down, I wasn't worried about ANY ground game...

As far as a bump in the schedule, I agree with OP that this wasn’t a terrible place for the team to give up a W. The problem is how it happened.

by tw3kr on Nov 3, 2009 5:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if it is a motivation / coaching problem?

The coaching staff seems like they get the team geared up and ready to go against those teams no one gives us a chance to beat but when it comes to those teams we should beat, we don’t beat them. Now I am sure the coaches and key players do their best to pump up the team but it just seems like they come out and decide the game is already over before the ball is even snapped.

Am I the only one think this?

by Pyromnc on Nov 2, 2009 10:11 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

I've always though motivation was somewhat over rated

In high school or college ranks guys might need a rah-rah speech to get them fired up but these guys are professionals. They shouldn’t need a coach to stand up and light a fire.

The motivation should be simple: BEAT THE MAN IN FRONT OF YOU OR GO STAND IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE!!!

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 2, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

i dont know

Dawkins R.lewis besides being beasts their best quality is their motivation and how they make the people around them want to be better

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by DaCards on Nov 4, 2009 12:02 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Drew Brees has been fairly effective also.

I think the players can play without the motivation but if they have someone jumping up and down and screaming like your excited, they want to reach that level with you.

by Pyromnc on Nov 4, 2009 6:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

No you're not Pyromnc

We are sharing a brain on this one. I thought that this team’s yoyo performance from week to week this season,
primarily on offense is direct reflection of the Head Coach/OC.

Look, I understand the reluctance to be critical of the coaching staff . As a long time Cards fans I have had very little to cheer about until Whiz showed up.

MBN, said he thought this could be a trap game. Turns out his concern was warranted given the performance we witnessed yesterday.

Back to coaching, the chemistry that Warner enjoyed with Todd Haley is not there with Whisenhunt. The QB—-play caller relationship is a special relationship and it’s obviuos when watching games and tape that Warner is not comfortable with the calls as it relates to down, distance and strategic situations (ball ending up not in the teams best playmkers hands) and THATS the biggest problem on offense. The offensive line personel is the same as last years, yet we are getting different results with a lot less explosive down field passing plays. Play calling is the main culprit as to to why we are so inconsistent. Maybe they will consider the RGC or PGC calling plays becuase what is happening now is not producing consistent results.

I also think, the players that are wearing the C’s on their chest have to make plays and play with greater dicipline when given their oppurtunities.

To rap this puppy up, I do agree MBN that the sky is not falling but a storm is brewing with dark clouds overhead. While I agree again that the Cards are the class of the NFC West, players have to play and the coaching/play calling must improve if this team is to reach it’s potential as NFC West Champions this season with a winning record.

Can or will Whisenhunt subjugate the play calling duties to Grimm or another trusted member of his staff IF this offense remains what it has been——-the little girl with the cute curls ?

by Cardsfan81 on Nov 2, 2009 11:27 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

lack of downfield plays

While I don’t have any proof of this, I think defenses have adjusted to the Cardinals plan of attack from last season. Instead of teams trying to come after Warner I think more and more they’re sitting back with two deep safeties and playing softer coverages with the intention of forcing everything underneath. That was obviously the Niners game plan in week one and it looked like the Panthers’ game plan yesterday.

Now I wish Warner would take more shots down field (like we did last January) regardless of the coverage but whether that’s his choice or the coaching staff telling him not to, we’ll never know.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 2, 2009 11:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think in most the games we have played this year the teams have given us the underneath while rushing just 3 to 4 guys. We have won and lost this year because of this, mostly because the line. Now I am not putting all the blame on the line because there have been a lot of time they have done their job and Warner just completely missed his receiver but I’ve noticed when Warner gets hit a few times early he tends to try and get rid of the ball a little too quickly either resulting in a turnover or incompletion.

I also think the play calling has been suspect, at times it has been masterful and at others just down right awful. Now I do not know if this is just because players not executing right or the coaching staff just not game planning right, probably both, but whatever it is, it needs to be fixed.

Cardsfan81, I think Whiz is doing what he did with Haley, grooming another coach to call plays. I imagine this would be Miller, PGC, but until Whiz trusts we going to be asking these same question every week we lose. This is how we played in 07 when Whiz was play caller for half of the season…

by Pyromnc on Nov 2, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Bingo (thanks for the reminder)

First Bezekira, teams do have book on the passing attack via coaching tape. For example the Cards run a lot of high/low combination routes with Fitz high and Boldin low and teams see it coming. Provide some new wrinkles by placing Boldin high (when healthy) or Breaston high with Fitz low to give DC’s something else to prepare for. It also helps the players focus if they know new wrinkles are being incorparated into the playbook for them (appealing to the human nature factor.)

A thing or two on Warner. Warner like the rest of the offense has not been sharp from play 1to play 60 excluding the Jacksonville game. He clearly is not the same QB we saw last year. I think that’s to be expected given his age. He will have games where he looks like he doing things a half step slow ( with timing and anticipation off.) Shots have been there, they just were not successful affecting Warners confidence along with those around him (meaning the players and coaches.)

Pryomnc, the lack of a ground game has had the most effect (negative) on the pass game this season IMO. Beanie has the talent to force teams to have to bring down a safety to help in run support. We know there are extenuating circumstances that have prevented Wells from getting the bulk of the carries. With Boldin not at full speed or out Vs. Chicago, Wells needs those touches to take pressure off Warner and ineffect open up the passing game with play-action. Hightower, who Whisenhunt loves cannot be the guy to get this done. Teams don’t fear Hightower. Wells needs to be rode until his tougue hang out.

The play calling has been unimaginative at times. That would change overnight , however with Wells establishing the run game.

Finally, I had forgotten that Whiz did delegate to Haley. He has shown that he will do what’s in the best interest of the team if things are not working well. Thanks for re-educating me.

by Cardsfan81 on Nov 2, 2009 1:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, I would like to see more of Beanie also.

I was all for Hightower starting at the beginning of the season but I think Beanie has shown enough to play a majority of the downs with Hightower going back to that guy that got all the carries on 3rd down, 4th down, and in goal line situations, that is where Hightower to me is at his best.

by Pyromnc on Nov 2, 2009 1:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Beanie vs giants 14 carries 67 yds (albeit one fumble out of bounds)
Beanie vs. panthers 8 carries 47 yds

Beanie regular season
Rushing – 58 carries 238 yds, 4.2 per carry, 3 fumbles (only one lost)
Receiveing Targeted 5 times – 4 rec – 17 yards 4.2 per reception

So obviously the fumbles are a cause for concern, but anyone besides me wonder what this guy would do if he got 22-25 carries and targeted 5 times coming out of the backfield in a game?

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 2, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder what any back would do with 30 touches

but that’s not the Cardinals offensive gameplan.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 2, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it should be.

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 2, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

He should have 5 fumbles

I don’t know why the two fumbles in Seattle weren’t counted.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 2, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I got the stats of the NFL's official website

but yeah i do recall that he fumbled in Seattle as well now that you mention it

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 2, 2009 6:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah he clearly fumbled in that game. Maybe because the ball bounced right back into his hands?

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yea the “fumble stat” might only apply if someone else recovers the ball or if goes out of bounds.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 3, 2009 9:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Ive seen them recorded when they recover their own fumble.

by Pyromnc on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

It's a conspiracy!

The NFL wants to downplay Beanie’s fumbles so the Cards will play him more and throw less. The whole world is against us!!

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 3, 2009 12:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Where is the slant route to Fitzgerald that worked so good in the playoffs?

Also, I’ve felt that the Cardinals offense is most dangeraous when running the hurry up. If Kurt Warner didn’t throw so many damn picks the hurry up would’ve looked a lot better yesterday.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 2, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

It's because the hurry-up is all Kurt

by tw3kr on Nov 3, 2009 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I bet that Haley wishes he was back here now...

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 2, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

seriously

The Chiefs are pretty bad and now he has to deal with Larry Johnson.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 2, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Let's wait and see

Its easy to see a Yo yo performance this year and do the same as fans. Last week we were demanding national recognition as an elite team this week we wonder if the team even knows how to put their pads on right. if Cards pound Chicago there, run the table on the division and pick another win or two (Detroit or Tennessee) we are looking at an easy 10-6 11-5 record and we will be noting how this is the first 10 win season since… ever.

Also, for the most part, this a yo yo league (Colts and Saints notwithstanding). Look at the Eagles. Pounded the Giants after having lost to Raiders!?! Each week there is an example of that. It is hard to keep a wide angle lens on and see the season as a whole. The up side is we are entering into the second half of the season when each week division standing mean more and more. In the mean time one bad game is not necessarily a pattern.

MBN

by mbn on Nov 2, 2009 2:49 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

+1

Were the Panthers really that bad of a team? We all know Delhomme is terrible but this is virtually the same team from last year that had a first round bye.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 2, 2009 3:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The biggest issue to me is what happened to the 12th Man?

Was he cut? We are undefeated on the road, yet only 1-3 at home. How did we lose that homefield advantage we so loved over the past two years? Well we need to find it or 7-9 could be a strong possibility. Any way it IS almost midseason and that is typically when Whiz starts moving the younger players into more prominent roles (Timmy and DRC from last year) and giving coaches more responsibilities (Haley two years ago) if I’m not mistaken. We will probably see a similar shift in the next week or so which, if history is a good barometer, will breed some much better results.

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Nov 2, 2009 3:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Whisenhunt needs to make some change ups

As far as the 12th man, I’ve been to two games so far(Houston,Carolina) and it’s not an issue. It gets loud and opposing fans are out-numbered 20-1. Blowing a 77 yard run sucks a lot of air out of you.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 2, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

The crowd is fine. I’ve been to all 4 home game (note my level of recent frustration). I thought the pick 6 right into the defenders hands on the frist play of a drive already down 21-7 let out some air as well. However, even in the 3rd quarter the crowd got loud again after the Cardinals put together a scoring drive.

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 2, 2009 6:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Warner

So my ? Is next year do we throw kurt in even if matt gives us the best chance or do we let grey bush continue cause he is making 10 mill and we can’t cut him. And if we do that do we lose some of our weapons to f/a and matt doesn’t get the great receivers kurt had and call him a bust cause he don’t produce

The Devil Birds just got cha

by DaCards on Nov 4, 2009 12:17 AM MST via mobile reply actions 0 recs

Warner actually makes the majority of his contract this year

He’ll only make a small portion next year and I’m sure there’s a reason why. It gives the Cardinals the option to part ways with Kurt and not lose a lot of money.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 4, 2009 8:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Pull him now!

I think that sucks for Leinart and what your saying could really happen, people will say he’s a bust if he doesn’t produce next year because he has no one around him – and they won’t figure that out, they’ll just say were losing – Leinart sucks. What is Warner’s excuse this year (that Julius Peppers jumps to high and he couldn’t dump that ball over him). Why aren’t people saying Warner sucks! And is too old! Everyone’s thinking it their just scared to admitt it! If Leinart got in right now I think he would have a chance to turn the season around. I’m positive we would’ve been in the same situation last year with Leinart. It’s unfortunate for him, he needs to be playing now, not next year. I can’t stand Warner, QB’s with no mobility drive me crazy! Might as well put him out there throwing from a wheelchair. Right now Leinart will give us the best chance to win. But since people are so loyal to Warner the coaching staff doesn’t have the balls to pull him. This is a joke. Look at what happend in Tennessee!

by js10jj on Nov 4, 2009 9:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

haha

by badmatty53 on Nov 4, 2009 9:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Opinions are like...

Well you know the rest.

by badmatty53 on Nov 4, 2009 9:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Warner

Do you think when he does retire he comes on as a qb coach or a consultant of some sort

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by DaCards on Nov 4, 2009 12:19 AM MST via mobile reply actions 0 recs

I bet he walks away completely (aka not even a broadcaster)

He’s such a family man and you’ve gotta think at some point he’s going to want to stay at home.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 4, 2009 6:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I've heard him say "where ever god leads me"

Sounds like he could be a coach or broadcaster someday but from what I have heard him say, it seems like he will probably take a break for awhile.

by Pyromnc on Nov 4, 2009 6:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I see him taking a break

He’s a busy man outside of football and I’m sure that will only grow

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 4, 2009 8:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

that hokie god crap gets old

and he’d have to drop it to get a mainstream broadcaster role

… I don’t see Kurt walking away at all, and I’m still kinda pissed he pushed Cards front office into an extra year and more money … especially after Larry reworked his deal to clear cap space

he loves to play the martyr, so they will have drag kurt off the field … dispite being a lock for the HOF, I can’t see him leaving the game unless hes cut or has a significant injury

by quid pro quo on Nov 4, 2009 8:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I see him going into Coaching

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 4, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Warner coming back

I hope not!

by js10jj on Nov 4, 2009 9:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

OC

by badmatty53 on Nov 4, 2009 9:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Warner HOF

You’re crazy, when he doesn’t have great receivers HE SUCKS! When the Rams lost some of their receivers he couldn’t do anything – and by trying to make plays got hurt. He’s joke, can you imagine if Drew Brees or Peyton Manning had fitz, boldin and breaston it would be a joke! No one would stop them ever. And please drag Warner off the field last weekend he was the best player – for the other team!

by js10jj on Nov 4, 2009 9:22 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

As long as we are talking about who we think sucks,

I think you you suck the tits off a badger.

by badmatty53 on Nov 4, 2009 9:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

by Pyromnc on Nov 4, 2009 9:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm guessing badgers have quite a few nipples

kinda like dogs and cats right?

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 4, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know what we're yelling about!!!!!!!!!

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 4, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

but we don't have brees or peyton

and, like it or not, Kurt has the stats to be in the HOF

… at times kurt does suck, and look old … and then the next play he looks unbeatable

we are a bi-polar team playing in a bi-polar division

by quid pro quo on Nov 4, 2009 9:31 AM MST reply actions 1 recs

+1

by Pyromnc on Nov 4, 2009 9:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 4, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

So why not Leinart?

That’s what I’m yelling about! Warner is done, and all the die hard Warner followers need to admit that. He’s not Brett Favre!!!! Favre is a gamer not like Warner. And we don’t play in a bi-polar division we play in a horrible division that’s why we’ll still make the playoffs but get smashed by Minnesota or New Orleans if Warner is still playing. You know why, because they have blitzing defenses with good secondaries – a Warner nightmare. And mark my words see if Warner gets in the HOF, not a chance! People voting will know if he doesn’t have great players around him he can’t win, he doens’ t make a horrible team better – he can only make a good team with potential better. Brett Favre that’s a HOF QB, Green bay, NY, and Minnesota all no name teams. Warner could never do that. And we don’t have Brees or Manning, but what I’m saying is that we have a young QB that could be on his way to a Brees or Manning and were just wasting him when this old washed up QB is playing horrible. And Brees and Manning don’t even have the receiving core that Warner has a look what their doing!!

by js10jj on Nov 4, 2009 11:15 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Jesus Christ we heard you

Stop beating a dead horse.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 4, 2009 11:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

2 seperate arguments

first
no way do the Cards make that run to the SB last year without Warner

… and I won’t argue that hes not old and past his prime, he is … but hes still better than more than half the QB’s in the league. Certainly his mobility is an issue, and he often holds the ball to long. But his accuracy and his quick reads are considered his strength. I think your argument that he needs players around him is obvious, and its a stupid argument. Football is a team sport, and even Tom Brady needs guys around him to make plays. I think if you gave Kurt the starting QB job in MN or Indy he could be very successful with those offensive lines.

second
sure … kurt warner is one of those annoying sports stars that has a fan base all on his own (like bret favre) and a large group of followers that revel in drinking the kurt cool-aid. Telling anyone who will listen how wonderful hes is, not only as a football player, but also as a human being. blah blah blah he can do no wrong. I get it. But he did win two NFL MVP awards in 99 and 01, as well as the Super Bowl MVP. And owns the three biggest single-game passing yardage totals in Super Bowl history. And Warner is ranked fourth all-time in career passer rating with a 93.5 mark.

he will most certainly be considered for the HOF, even you must realize this

by quid pro quo on Nov 4, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Warner

I’m not saying Warner wasn’t a good QB years ago, but now his run is over. And who were Brady’s receivers when the Patriots won the super bowl, can you name them?. You can’t even remember huh? But can you name Warners receivers on the Rams – Bruce, Holt, Hakim. And truthfully, I don’t care what he’s done a long time ago. What has he done lately, ahh throw 5 picks! When your run is over, it’s over. Don’t plague a team that has a chance to compete for the championship. Leinart is the same type of QB as Warner just younger and has a little better ability to get out of sacks and with these receivers that’s all you need. And Warner just isn’t cutting it, this whole season.

by js10jj on Nov 4, 2009 6:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

its a long season

I’d rather not jinx Warner, and we need him to stay healthy … I hope if Leinart comes in he does play well, but lets not forget he struggled to beat out st. pierre for the #2 spot

by quid pro quo on Nov 5, 2009 10:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Leinart did not really struggle to beat out St. Pierre for the spot. Pierre sucked it up in preseason while Leinart played pretty damn good. Whiz just promised Pierre he would let him compete for that spot so that he would not leave the team.

by Pyromnc on Nov 5, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah I'd be surprised if St. Pierre remained on the team after this year.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 5, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I still wish that we would have kept Palko instead.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 5, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I bet we draft someone in the later rounds next year to replace him.

Then groom him to be Leinart’s backup or possibly be some competition for Leinart.

by Pyromnc on Nov 5, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Andrew602 asked

by js10jj on Nov 4, 2009 11:46 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

first he didn't ask anything. He said "I don't know what you're yelling about" and if anything I'd bet he was being sarcastic

Second use the little link that says “reply” it makes it much easier to follow an actual conversation.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 4, 2009 12:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

It's from Anchorman

Matty and Pyro know what I’m talking about. haha

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Nov 4, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs