3 Reasons Why Tim Hightower Should Not Be The Arizona Cardinals Starting Running Back
by Andrew602 on Dec 17, 2009 3:00 AM MST
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Tim Hightower was originally drafted out of the 5th round last year with the expectations that he could one day be the Arizona Cardinals starting running back. The rookie made a name for himself early and eventually took over for the now-departed Edgerrin James. He was undeniably the best and most significant draft choice of 2008 and was a large part of last year's post season run.
This year has been an entirely different story. At one end of the spectrum you might say he's improved because he's already rushed for 139 yards more then last year and has increased his average from 2.9 to 4.4 yards per carry. He's became a reliable back in the receiving game and has also had a knack for picking up blitzes. After all of his improvements however, Tim Hightower should not be the starting running back for the Arizona Cardinals and here's why.
1. Five fumbles on the year. That number may not alarm some but when you narrow it down, he's fumbled the ball 4% of the time this season. That roughly means for every 24.5 carries he gets, there's a chance we'll see Timmy put the ball on the ground. What's really made matters worse is that all [4] of the fumbles that were lost were in the 1st half of games. Anytime that happens it greatly diminishes the Cardinals offensive momentum. If you want to compare the two backs, Beanie Wells has 4 fumbles on the year but at a 2% fumble rate, and for every 34 carries there's a chance we'll see Beanie fumble the ball.
2. Hightower doesn't bring break away speed/explosiveness to the offense. As we all know, Tim Hightower tends to show hesitation in the back field before making a cut. We've seen it many times last year and flashes of the same tendency this year. He has greatly improved that problem but the Cardinals offensive line is not one that opens an ample amount of time for the backs. When Hightower broke a 50 yard run against the Rams, it was clear that he didn't have the top end speed to make it to the end zone. Unfortunately, Hightower may never have the ability to take it to the next level like Wells. In only 139 rushing attempts, Wells already has 3 touchdowns of 10+ yards - Hightower has zero.
3. Tim Hightower fits the offense better as a 3rd down back. Most 3rd down backs need to excel at blocking and pass-catching, for the obvious throwing situations that come on 3rd down. If we look at his strengths, we already know that Hightower has become a very capable blocker and his 53 receptions (he's 17 away from the single-season reception record for a Cardinals halfback) show that he can certainly catch the ball. Hightower would also fit the description as the closing back with the change of pace he brings to the offense. His relentless style is one that would fit better with tiring the opposing defense in the 4th quarter.
When I say Tim Hightower should not be the starting running back, it's because Beanie Wells brings more explosiveness at the start of the game. I love Hightower just as much as the next Cardinal fan but I do feel that he's not quite ready to be the full time back. He's proved that he can get better in just one season, and if he keeps his work ethic strong and makes a committment he will have a good career in the NFL. If anyone wants to make a case for Hightower I'd love to hear it, because right now I believe Beanie Wells brings something to the table that Hightower just does not.
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…he’s not quite ready to be the full time back.
He’s not “ready” or he’s not capable? All the points suggest the latter, so which is it?
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
He's obviously capable Hawk
As we’ve seen through 13 games this year he’s been the starter. But is he really ready? I don’t think so. 2 100 yard games in his career and both were at the Rams.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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I think he would have more if the Cards were more of a run oriented team...
but their not and it’s a big reason why Hightower doesn’t have more rushing yards and Beanie has not eclipsed the 100 yard rushing mark this season.
My rebuttle to each of your points
1. First, just so we’re all clear on the math. Hightower’s fumble percentage is 4.1% and Beanie’s rate is 2.9%. In my book that’s 4% and 3%, not 2%. Second, we all know that Beanie really has six fumbles but the NFL doesn’t count it as a fumble when a back simply drops or bobbles a pitch on a sweep play. Beanie has done that twice and it was clear both times that it was his fault, and his fault alone. If you factor those two fumbles in his percentage jumps to 4.4%. Bottom line they are both just as likely to put the ball on the turf.
2. There’s no doubt that Wells would beat Hightower in a foot race, but that’s not the best measurement of an running back. Hightower has two carries of 30+ yards this year while Beanie has zero. It does matter if Hightower can’t run away from a safety as long as he can get there, because right now Wells can’t even get to that point.
3. Timmy can block and catch, but that doesn’t mean he should be relegated to third down duties, it simply means that right now he’s the more complete back. If we were team that ran almost exclusively on first and second downs then it might make sense to have him work more on third downs but our offense is just as likely to line up in a four wide shotgun formation on 2nd-and-3.
Since most of that reads like I’m a Beanie-hater, let me clarify. I honestly don’t think it matters one bit which of these backs is on the field for the first play of the game. The “starter” designation is completely useless on this team because Whiz is going to either split the carries pretty evenly or simply ride the hot hand. The carries were almost dead even heading into this past game and the yards per carry are still identical.
Bottom line, it makes no difference who the starter is. The running game isn’t going to improve simply by letting Beanie play the first play of the game.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
+1
I think it’s great that we have two young competitive progressing backs. A clear upgrade over recent years!
I totally agree, that for now it wouldn’t make any difference if Whiz split the “starts” as well as the carries. Surely, I hope at some point one of them will turn into one of the top running backs in the league and by that win the clear-cut starter job with the other one still being very useful for the offense. Similar to teams like Carolina, Miami and the Giants. Right now it seems most likely it’ll be Beanie, but he’s not there yet either
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I'll 1 up you Beze and say that Tim is technically at 4.1 and with Beanie at 2.9 that's a 1.2% difference.
The two pitches that you’re counting as fumbles(1 lost) are really dropped passes IMO, but since they are backward passes their counted as fumbles.
Eh, your point about runs over 30 yards doesn’t blow me away. One of the runs came against the Rams, and other was against the Vikings, which was impressive. I’ll take more runs over 10 yards that result in touchdowns then long runs that may result in a touchdown.
For the Cardinals offense last year and the beginning of this year, I’d understand your point about a clear starter not mattering. Lately though, Whiz has incorporated the running game to the point where the offense is becoming more balanced. When I say starter, what I mean is the back that gets most of the carries through the first 3 quarters, not who gets the ball at the start of the game.
I also think Beanie may get a chance soon. Hightower only has 8 carries in the last two games compared to Beanie’s 28 carries. We may see the tide already turning.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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I think the lack of carries for Hightower has been because of his fumbling problem.
If you remember earlier in the season Whiz benched or played Beanie less when he fumbled the ball away. The same has gone for Hightower, when he has fumbled the ball away he has had only 21 carries. When Beanie fumbled twice in Jacksonville he was put on the bench late in the game and had just 9 carries in the next two games.
I don’t think this is a sign of the tide turning but just Whiz putting a player in his doghouse.
The game after the JAX game was the Colts
In which nobody had any carries because of Hightowers early fumble that put the Cardinals in the hole. They played catch-up the entire game.
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TH still had more touches in that game.
14 touches, 9 carries, while Beanie had 2 carries in that game.
Sorry to go all statistical speak on you guys
1.2% could just be chance variation
by Irishcardinal on Dec 17, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
I disagree
You left out that Hightower has 53 catches (no fumbles) compared to Wells 10 catches (also no fumbles).
Passing to the backs on downs other than 3rd help to prevent 3rd and long. That’s a major part of the offense.
I like Beanie a lot, but not at the expense of removing Hightower. Considering his blocking prowess, why not play them together? I don’t really see Kreider bringing anything much to the table.
Good point Bezekira—about the pitchouts Beanie dropped.
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Dec 17, 2009 6:27 AM MST reply actions
Oooh, I like that...
…thought of the two of them in the backfield together. Whis tried that his first year with Shipp and James which added an interesting wrinkle to the options.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
I did mention Tim has 53 catches, even pointing out he's close to the Cards record for a back.
And we haven’t seen anything to suggest that Beanie can’t catch, he’s just not on the field on passing downs. Tim Hightower has been targeted 68 times on passes this year while Wells has been targeted 12 times. I don’t see how you can argue that point.
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I think Beanie has proven he can catch.
the play against the Titans in which he had that 21 yard catch close to the sideline.
I think the reason he is not the starter is the fact that Hightower is just a much better blocker. He was a major reason why we shut down Jared Allen a couple weeks ago. If Beanie could learn to block like that than he would become the starter, but right now Hightower’s blocking skills are just to important to lose with the line we have got right now.
Saying Beanie needs to "learn to block" isn't a very valid point.
We haven’t seen anything this year to suggest that Beanie can’t block, just that he hasn’t been on the field as much to block.
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He didn't block at OSU, at least not very much
And hasn’t blocked much yet this season either. I would imagine that he probably didn’t do a bunch of blocking at the high school level either but obviously I have no proof or evidence of that. So if we give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he learned how to block very well in high school, he’s basically gone four year’s without much practice at it. The best case scenario is that he’s very rusty at it and would have to work through that. The worst case scenario is that he simply can’t do it. Either way Hightower is better at it right now.
Also, if you count his fumbles on pitch plays as drops than I guess he’s proven that he has bad hands and thus can’t be a comparable receiver to Hightower.
So basically Hightower is the more rounded back right now.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
I thought you might say that
But really? 2 dropped passes? Come on now, if that’s all the drops he has all year I’m fine with that. Also, Hightower has been targeted 68 times this year and ony caught 53. That means 15 passes weren’t caught. Why? I don’t know because the stats don’t show but you can’t assume all of them were batted balls.
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sure you can
Warner throwing the ball away and Hightower was near, batted at the line of scrimmage, bad throw by Warner/Leinart, etc. etc.
All 15 times? I doubt it.
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ever seen Warner throw at the feet of a RB on a screen that’s getting busted up?
hightower’s 77.9% receiving percentage leads the Cards (probably as it should) with those with more than 20 targets.
Wells has a 83.3% receiving percentage but on 12 targets. Which I would guess that Irishcardinal would say is too low for analysis.
Hightower’s 77.9% ranks him as the 13th overall RB in the NFL right behind Ray Rice.
if you have problems catching an underhand toss
Wouldn’t it make sense that you have problems catching a regular pass? There has to be some black-eye for those two plays. If they’re not fumbles, they are something else. You can’t just dismiss them.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
So let´s count those as fumbles
It seems to me that is something that can be corrected, as for the blocking I don´t see why he can´t be good at picking up the blitz, he is big and strong enough (Stephen Howling for instance may never be good at picking up the blitz), and also has been improving his pass catching, the play against the Titans was a very good one…
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Eh that's a different situation and we're talking about 2 dropped balls
The running back is just starting to wind up and get into position. He and the coaching staff did admit that Wells was rushing to the hole early which is a problem he’s been trying to fix. When he’s running a route he’s already set in position and prepared to catch the ball.
Basically, I think Wells rushed to the pitch a little too quick and couldn’t hold on. It’s not as if he was blown up by a linebacker and the ball popped out. 2 dropped passes IMO.
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Halfback
Timmy is 48 receptions from tying the “running back” reception record of 101 by Larry Centers, a fullback.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
The running back record is 70, set by Ottis Anderson.
Larry Centers was practically a half back though.
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I can see both arguments
I have been very vocal about my wanting Beanie to be in the game more than Hightower, but i think both bring something to that offense. While Beanie might not have any long runs this year, he consistently seems to be gaining 8-12 yard bursts. I might be imagining things, and don’t have any stats to back it up, but I just don’t think Hightower shows that burst as often. What Beanie has not shown yet is the ability to get from the 8-12 yard runs to the home runs.
Cuckoo, my brother and I have beem talking all year about putting Beanie and Hightower on the field at the same time. Not to use one as a Fullback to block, but to have both of them on the field to create matchup nightmares for defenses. Can you imagine the 2 of them in a pro formation? We could run the ball to either side, or play action to one and pass to the other, it would be a very difficult set to matchup against for almot any defense.
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they have the exact same YPC average
So who cares who has more 8-12 yards runs.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Beanie has 21 10+ runs compared to Hightower's 18.
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good points from both of you
Like I said, i could have been imagining things and didn’t have any stats to back it up. The reason I pointed out 8-12 yard runs is because if the Cards are running the ball, and have an 8 yard gain on 1st or 2nd down, they are more likely to convert the 2nd or 3rd down play. I still think both players bring something to the offense, and see no reason why they can’t both play.
I do think if Whiz allowed 1 of them to get 2/3 of the carries, we would see bigger production. A lot of RBs say they get in a groove the more they carry the ball, and can read the defenses better to see running lanes after they’ve run the ball more. Again, no stats to back it up, but I would suspect that for most good RBs they average better YPC on their 18-25 carries than 1-10, or 11-17. The exception of course is when someone breaks a long run or if your name is Chris Johnson.
Of course I could be completely wrong on this point…thoughts?
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2 back system
you need 2 RB’s regardless, assuming Beanie learns to read defenses and block he will be in on 1st and 2nd down more, hes still a young kid. I wasn’t exactly focused at age 21 (I wonder if he went to circle-k and got a beer on his 21st b-day?) …. But the pounding these guys take throughout the year its just smart to carry 2 quality RB’s
does it really matter who starts?
lol Circle K
I am glad I found one out here in Texas.
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I wouldn't be opposed to giving it a shot
preferably after we have locked up the NFC West.
however I would be more excited about seeing both of these guys on the field at the same time.
I love this discussion
If you gave sodium pentothal to all opposing DC’s that face the Cardinals they would all to a man say they’d much rather face Hightower than Wells and it is not even close. Let’s throw out the stats and the fumbles for a second and just concentrate on the pure football physical gifts of these men.
I’m on record saying that Wells has the talent to be the best feature back of the entire 09 Draft. Hightower if he reaches his full potential will be a Sammy Morris (NE) type back. A servicable workman like player who is a collision/contact runner and who’s skill set is best suited to be a back-up. You can’t build an explosive running game around Hightower and threatend defenses both laterally and vertically. Beanie Wells can be a home run hitter and Hightower can not.
Wells needs to start and get the bulk of the carries. Hightower belongs but in a more reduced role moving forward. Running backs, the great running backs need to get into a groove by putting the team on their back with the football in their hands. That player has to be Beanie. Wells will grow into a complete back if given a sustained oppurtunity.
+1
Starter doesn’t always mean who gets the ball first, it means who gets the bulk of the carries.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Nice points Canrdsfan81
My wife hates “Happyfeet” Hihgtower. I love an underdog (dir…Cards fan here) so Timmy is my guy. But Beanie should get the bulk of the carries. My crystal ball says that come playoffs, Beanie gets the majority of the carries. Like the rebuttal CG, I mean Beze. bird -cat HELL YES! If anything it would be exciting as hell to watch. I think there are a lot of shifts come playoffs and would be suprised to see the bird-cat happen.
Beanie
Both Tim and Beanie are real good young backs. In the NFL today you need two different styles of runners to keep the defense on their heels, so we are in great shape if they both can hold on to the ball, BUT BEANIE SHOULD START and here’s why.
Our passing offense use to be more explosive with Todd Haley at the helm. In a trade off for a balanced run game we lost a little of that and Tim doesn’t give us any explosion in the run game, Beanie Does.
When we pass we can score at any moment. When Tim runs we are just chipping away at yards. Beanie can score from anywhere which will make teams think about dropping their safeties against Q and Fitz.
Beanie is a great rookie, coming on late that missed a lot of the early camp stuff cause of injury. Tim is a great mixed back and should get 5-10 carries and all 3rd downs. But Beanie needs touches so we are still an explosive offense. With both backs this is a lot better team than 2008.
If Leinart can really play we are a legitimate elite team for a long time.
Great topic
I am totally with you on this one Adrew, most of the time I agree with Bezekira but not this time… we all know about the “fumblitis”, both have fumbled, that is the bottom line, but Hightower has been awful lately, at least Beanie lost his on a good hit against the 49ers, but Hightower, not really (neither LSH)…so Hightower has two runs of 30 yards, you can even mention his 100 yard games against the Rams, and having said that, first of all it was against the Rams, remember last year we tought he was the steal of the draft after the Rams game, and then he came back to earth… second, I need more consistency, if he has a 30 yard gain, but an average of 2 or less than 2 yards per carry the rest of the way, that won´t do any good for the rushing attack, if you are saying Hightower is faster, let me disagree, he has had good blocking on those plays, but 2 plays don´t make a season, he hasn´t been consistent enough… and I think he has to be the third down back, because he is better at blocking and receiving (for now because Benie has been improving in both), but he is not better and not even close at running, the last game was a great example against a very tough 49ers deffense, Beanie got the tough yards, including the touchdown run, he could have gotten more if not for the holding penalties… I would like to finish with this, I love Tim Hightower, he has great desire, he had great plays last year, specially in the NFC chapionship, but he doesn´t inspire fear in the opponent team, he can work really hard, and have a long carrer, but he doesn´t have any special tool… as for Beanie, the sky is the limit, the combination of speed and size is amazing, he has been a great improvement for this offense, too bad it took him so long to leart it, but he is coming around and the best is yet to come, I believe Beanie will be the star for this offense once Kurt Warner retires and we shift to a more run oriented offense, just look at the improvement we have had running the ball from last year, granted the line has been better, but Beanie has also been very important for that improvement and I can only hope he keeps getting better, and we can say in some years, that he was the steal of the 2009 class… GO CARDINALS.
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Hightower's value
Tim Hightower is one of the most valuable players on the team. If it weren’t for his play last year, the Cardinals could not have reached the Super Bowl. What I mean by that is, if you take away all of the crucial 3rd and 4th and short situations he converted away, Arizona wouldn’t have made the playoffs, and take away what he did in the postseason and we wouldn’t have made it to the big game.
Some attributes can’t be measured, toughness, determination, heart and will etc. The team and coaching staff counted on Tim in big situations over and over last year—which says a lot considering we had Edge and his illustrious past and experience on the roster—and Tim delivered repeatedly.
Wells has more natural ability than Tim, but I’ll trade you 53 guys with shiny measurables for 53 Hightowers any day of the week.
Besides, we need both, and I don’t think it matters who starts. I look forward to many years of this young tandem, sticking together and getting better over time.
http://undrafteds.com/
Just to note
That last TD in the NFC Championship was great play that was called. Yes Hightower ran it in with determination but Deuce layed a big block that got him into the end zone.
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Hightower has earned and deserves to be No.1
4 fumbles be damned, Wells has as you said, has actually fumbled more than the stats indicate.
He has the longest run of the year and more TDs. Enough said.
http://undrafteds.com/
Hightower led the team with 10 TDs last year
But his 2.9 YPC average last year wasn’t good enough. Measuring a running back by TDs is not a valid point to name him the starter.
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2.8 YPC...
Andrew, the 2.8 YPC was usually construed as a reflection of Hightower’s inability to gain yards. While I did agree that he hesitated too often behind the line of scrimmage, the low YPC was also the fault of poor run blocking. Plus, factor in that he was the short yardage back, and was thrust into many more situations where one and two yards was a victory.
Just as TDs alone are not a valid point for naming someone a starter, having 4 fumbles does not mean that a starting RB that is doing a fine job otherwise should be sent to the bench in favor of someone else who is also putting the ball on the ground.
I have written about Tim several times this season, you may find it entertaining even if you don’t agree. Here are a couple links.
http://undrafteds.com/2009/07/16/fantasy-hot-list-2-tim-hightower/
http://undrafteds.com/2009/08/12/fantasy-football-sleepers-running-backs-fantasy-hot-list-10/
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Besides...
What does his YPC from last year have to do with anything this year? He and Beanie have the same YPC, 4.4.
http://undrafteds.com/
Time to test Beanie.
Beanie should start. He has more potential than Hightower. This is Hightowers second year in the league and Hightowers first year he was running behind Edge. The Edge was on the decline but was still better than Hightower. This is Beanies first year with limited playing time in the beginning of the season and he is running as well Hightower is right now. Hightower has improved but even after a year of play a rookie is just as good as him.
Two of these next three games are gimmies, one will be a good challenge before the playoffs. So why not get Beanie some carries? Let him get some early carries and see how well he produces.
Hightower is in the doghouse anyways. Two opening drive fumbles? Unforgivable.
If Beanie fumbles it early, put Rolle in.
They are who we thought they were!
+1
Every time Beanie gets the ball, he shows the quickness and running ability to break a huge run. I don’t get the same feeling that Timmy can do that. Hightower is the better pass catcher and blocker, simply because he’s been in the league a year longer and that’s something most running backs don’t learn in college. But I think Beanie gives this offense a big play explosiveness that Hightower can’t and I think if Beanie was the lead back, we’d see much more 50+ yard plays. I can’t remember the last time I saw a Cardinals RB break a 70 yard run for a TD, but I think Beanie can be that guy who does.
What he lacks in ball-security he makes up in overall production
Which neither of our backs do.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Adrian Schmadrian, if we would have drafted peterson we wouldn't have that All Pro right Tackle Levi Brown
sigh
by CardsDefense on Dec 18, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
off topic but i was looking through old drafts
to see who else passed on Peterson and I came upon this site of old cardinals draft picks:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=team
2002 and 2006 were absolutely terrible drafts (and moving rolle to safety saved the 2005 draft)
2003 and 2004 were amazing though
Denny
Green should get some credit for helping build our current team up. Fitz, Dockett and Dansby all in one draft is awesome
http://undrafteds.com/
Graves
Denny may have been the head coach at the time, but that doesn’t mean he made the picks. He had input in them. Graves was and is the GM and he has done a very good job.
5 teams other than the Cards passed on Peterson too. Complaining about wrong picks 3 years later is useless. You have to take into account the situation at the time. Edge was not yet ‘over the hill’. We needed offensive line help because of injuries and depth issues. Cleveland took Joe Thomas 3rd that year (the guy I wish we could have gotten).
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Dec 18, 2009 8:46 PM MST up reply actions
“Denny may have been the head coach at the time, but that doesn’t mean he made the picks. He had input in them”
Precisely. And that input was golden. Green and Graves together. Thats why I said Green should get some credit.
It is not just Green’s Cardinals’ input of course, his eye for talent goes back to the Vikings and the massively talented Minnesota teams that he also gets some credit for.
http://undrafteds.com/
anybody opposed to?
Putting timmy on the trading block?
Draft picks, maybe a solid tackle?
In my point of view, they are equal backs with different strengths when it comes down to it.
I like beanie, he has the elusiveness which is alway nice in a back.
Hightower was raw, raw, raw, all last year and immensely improved this year. To my knowledge we have the same runningbacks coach, whose to say that coach won’t do the same to beanie and he becomes a beast next year.
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 19, 2009 10:02 AM MST reply actions
Out of the question.
Wear and Tear can’t be separated. You need two good backs to be successful.
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by hevchv on Dec 19, 2009 10:34 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Hell no
Both these guys get along well and push each other to improve. Tims running is much improved over last year, directly caused by drafting wells. But indirectly with having the drive and competitiveness to be one of the best in the league,you can tell by watching him play,. Look how he spent the rest of last game on the sidelines holding the ball, you know that fumble bothered him, he didnt show an oh well who cares attitude. I can only imagine the Hightower and Wells fumbling troubles are being taken serious by the whole team, and the whole team is going to help rectify the problems. Everything is going to come together in the post season
+1
A new guy would have get acclimated not to mention the learning curve invovled. Hightower has to stay put. Good player who’s cheap. You’re on point hevchv.
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![That NFC West preview from EA sports I promised all of you [thanks to Operation Sports.com for posting the video on Youtube]. Cardinals start at 0:43 in the video, and you get to hear The Whiz talking about the Beantower. Its a shame his section isn't a little bit longer.
And nice job cheaping out EA by just using the Collinsworth commentary from the game on Stephen Jackson.](http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/132051/2_small.jpg)
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