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Arizona Cardinals vs Minnesota Vikings: Five Keys to Success

The Minnesota Vikings (10-1) travel to Glendale, AZ to take on the Arizona Cardinals (7-4) in a game that could determine playoff positioning.  Realistically, if the Cardinals had a chance at catching up to the Vikings or Saints they would've needed a win in Tennessee.  Instead they're playing keep away from the 49ers with the division lead and a win on Sunday night would certainly help that cause.  The biggest headline going into the game is the status of Kurt Warner.  Kurt suffered a concussion two weeks ago against the Rams and concussion-like symptoms kept him out of action last week against the Titans.  Luckily, Matt Leinart has been sharing practice time with Warner this week and should be better prepared if Warner is not able to suit up.  Here are the keys to success:

Kurt Warner needs to play this week.  Without Warner the offense is not as explosive and cannot put up the points it needs to stay ahead of the other team.  Having Kurt Warner on the field improves the production of the rest of the offense.  With Jared Allen looming ahead the Cardinals need Warner's quick release and pocket presence to avoid a multiple sack day for Allen.  Matt Leinart should be prepared for Sunday if Warner can't play but at this point in the season Kurt Warner gives the Cardinals the best chance to win.

Star-divide

Left tackle will need support.  The obvious reason why is Jared Allen lining up on the other side.  Mike Gandy has been battling a pelvis injury for some time and was forced to miss a portion of the Titans game last week.  Gandy was never a dominant left tackle but was adequate enough to protect Kurt Warner's blind side.  Now with Gandy hurt, Jeremy Bridges will be inserted into the offensive line against one of the best defensive ends in the game. Bridges quietly entered the game last week and did a great job and with more practice this week, his solid play will need to carry on to Sunday night.

Don't quit on the running game.  It's likely that Cardinals running backs will struggle with the "Williams Wall" and the Vikings defense coming to town.  The Cardinals performance last week seemed uncanny as they had topped 120+ yards in their previous 3 games (it's not a coincidence all 3 were wins).  This week, taking pressure off whichever quarterback lines up under center will be vital which is why the Cardinals shouldn't abandon the run. Obviously going nowhere or gaining 1-2 yard carries would hurt their chances but just keeping the Vikings defense honest to the run will help tremendously.  If the Cardinals do eclipse 100 yards it will be because they won the game.

The play of the defensive backs.  The Cardinals defensive backs have had the problems stopping passing quarterbacks.  Vince Young, Matt Hasselbeck, Jay Cutler, and even Marc Bulger passed successfully against the Cardinals.  The key to limiting passing yards is getting pressure on the quarterback.  When the Cardinals blitz more it's evident that the defensive backs have more success.  If the Cardinals can force Favre to scramble and throw ill-advised passes it will greatly improve their chances of winning.

Win one for the homefield.  This same team beat the Cardinals at home last year pretty handily. The Cardinals have also not fared well on their home turf and the last time they played at home on Sunday night the Colts dominated that game.  Keeping the home crowd in the game until the end is important but beating the Vikings on Sunday night in front of everyone is a huge step in the right direction.

If the Cardinals can stay healthy and not make any mistakes they can keep this match up competitive. What are your keys to the game and why?

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I say quit on the running game...

No one runs on the Vikings…no one. Teams that have success against them have done it throwing. Spread things out with a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets. Go after the weak links in coverage. If Antoine Winfield is still out, that means the awful Karl Paymah and rookie Asher Allen are Nickel and Dime guys, which can definitely be exploited. The Vikings also do a poor job of covering the TE seam route down the middle. Warner should look to hit that early and often.

The Vikes are going to put up 30+ points no matter what…there’s just too many weapons there. Turn it into a track meet…a real shoot-out…and there’s a chance.

"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"

by mutleyil on Dec 4, 2009 7:33 AM MST reply actions  

Trenches

The keys to the game: We need to play like a team that is in the top 5 in sacks registered, and get Favre dirty.

Likewise, our O-line is going to have to play one of their best games of the year in order to stave off the powerful Vikings D line. It won’t be easy.

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by Undrafteds on Dec 4, 2009 8:04 AM MST reply actions  

I think we sit Warner

Why risk his health against a very physical defense when there is no need, its not a playoff game

I think we keep Kurt healthy for next week when we will need him … if we weren’t in such a soft division with a great chance to make the playoffs I might feel differently

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 8:47 AM MST reply actions  

I might be inclined to agree

second string left tackle vs. Jared Allen = Keep Warner clean

by badmatty53 on Dec 4, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

They aren't Gods...

They are men. At the end of the day, the Minnesota Vikings are men with faults and tendencies just like the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, they have been playing terrific football and they are talented across the board. That does not mean they aren’t beatable.

If nobody has run on the Vikings, then I say you’ve just pointed out their weak spot. If every team goes out there and tries to exploit a depleted secondary, what do you expect the Vikings to gameplan against? They will expect our offense to try to win entirely through the air just as every other team has tried. To win this game, we must run the ball. The Vikings will spend all week expecting the Cardinals to attack primarily through the air. If the Cardinals can find a way to expose, and attack, weaknesses in the Vikings’ rush defense then we will have them on their heels scrambling to adjust. That is when we flip the script on them and go to play action and attack through the air.

On defense, pick your poison. They have a variety of weapons and, barring injuries or the fluke horrid day, we probably cannot contain them all. My suggestion is to show blitz on every defensive play. All of them. Brett Favre is masterful and can read a defense as well as any quarterback that plays this game. For him, it’s like reading a book. So we need to write that book in a different language. Every play needs to be disguised. Every coverage needs to have a different look and different feel. We aren’t going to win this game unless we take huge risks and gamble it all. Show blitz and then drop back. Show blitz and send 6 men at Favre. I agree that we need to put Favre on the ground and we need to do so before he lets go of the ball. Keep in mind that he is still prone to interceptions. We need to bring out the old Favre who plays terrible in a dome and has multiple interception games. Focus entirely on Favre. AP is a beast and everybody knows that, but Favre has been winning the games and Favre is the one we need to eliminate.

A win this week alleviates a huge chunk of playoff pressure so I hope the Cardinals come into this game with the mindset that they want to blow out the Vikings. I’m tired of listening to everybody talk about how we need to try and stay in the game to pull one out. That’s exactly what Minnesota thinks as well. If we want to be an elite team, then we need to get our minds right. Elite teams don’t try to stay in games. Elite teams eliminate their opponent from the first play. I want Cardinal domination and I believe they are capable. Do you?

by SundayBlitz on Dec 4, 2009 9:04 AM MST reply actions  

+11

I agree so much I turned the dial up to 11. hahaha. Sunday, I’ve had my helmet on for days just waiting for coach to put me in. Man you hit the nail on the head. We need to set the tone early and often, like we did in the Giants game. Favre needs to be dirty, hit early and often

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by Undrafteds on Dec 4, 2009 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes

I believe the Cardinals have a chance! I agree with you

by Kevin_Lela on Dec 4, 2009 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Gods? No...

Vikings!
Set to come ashore… set their ships afire and pillage and plunder their way through the Cardinals of Arizona…
Then take a chartered flight back to Minneapolis.

Please blitz. And please focus on Adrian Peterson. Sidney Rice thanks you.

Should be a great game! See you in the stadium!

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 4, 2009 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Go back to Minneapolis.

Take Vikings and your lutefisk with you. Ginger fag!

by badmatty53 on Dec 4, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

haha

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Sidney Rice will be non-factor,

for we all know the one and only DRC will be stuck to him like a fly on shit.

A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.

by Sir Whirly on Dec 4, 2009 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

ok but

couple things … the ‘Williams wall’ is hardly a weakness, its one of their greatest strengths … they also have very fast and athletic LB’s … if we waste time trying to establish the run early(a mistake other teams have made), it could be too late … and the Vikes would be more than happy to grind this one out if we want to … their O-line and D-line would wear us down, and the Cards will get crushed

The Vikes have been one of the most consistent teams in the NFL this year (the Cards the opposite), their only loss was on the road where they played poorly and gave it away … and for the Cards to win, I think, they need to throw the Vikes off on both the defensive on offensive sides of the ball, creating havoc in the vikes secondary and turnovers on defense … and then hope the Vikes falter late like they did in Pittsburgh

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

They actually lost to the Steelers after some phantom tripping call that brought back a TD that would've won the game.

The Steelers usually get that advantage from the refs.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree … but we need the Vikes (or the refs) to make some mistakes if we want to win this game

… I not a rose-colored glasses guy, the Vikes are a better team

but that doesn’t mean we can’t beat them

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

And I have never understood this. In big games you really see it and I resent it.

by Cardsfan81 on Dec 4, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought that was a horrible call.

And right after it happened Favre fumbled and had it returned for a TD by the Steelers.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 4, 2009 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

We have weapons and need to use them

Throw jump balls up to Fitz early and often. put the ball on the number 81 with laser precision and let him get some yac, use breaston on the deep route. Defense, turn overs, turn overs, turn overs. I say put it all on the liune and let your play makers make plays.

by badmatty53 on Dec 4, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope the Cards focus entirely on Favre. AD (All Day) could use another 200+ yard game. Every team we’ve played so far this season has focused on stopping Peterson. The minute you ignore him, he’ll break one for 70 yards. Bet on it.

by kenbomc on Dec 4, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

First of all, Peterson hasn't had over 200 yards this season

And his season high is 180, which came week 1 against the Browns. He hasn’t had a 3 TD game since week 1 as well. As far as a long run, that could happen at anytime but 5 times this year Peterson has failed to run for longer then 19 yards.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Not to mention Peterson's love of fumbling.

Linebackers are going to be all over him because he gives us the best chance at turnovers. ALL DAY!

by lifeinthepit00 on Dec 4, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 4, 2009 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

the Fans need to get into the game.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Run the ball and exploit the Vikings D-Line overaggressiveness...

Allen is a sack machine – we get that. But exploit that by running delay traps and running out of the shotgun. Teams who do this minimize Allen’s impact because he is always going upfield trying to beat his man outside. Delay and run between the tackles. Do this successfully a couple of times and you just changed the game.

When the Birds are on D, they need pressure on Favre. It is that simple.

by Roy Green was here on Dec 4, 2009 9:19 AM MST reply actions  

Pressure is huge. We failed by not pressuring last week.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

You obviously haven’t watched Allen play the entire season. I’d be surprised if the Cards have over 50 yards rushing for the entire game.

by kenbomc on Dec 4, 2009 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

These ginger jokes are too much, haha.

A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.

by Sir Whirly on Dec 4, 2009 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Keys to Victory

Defensively, generate some pass-rush pressure on Favre. This is not all that difficult becuase the Vikings tackles are playing very average, “Mount” McKinney the massive LT is a key to getting this accomplished and is a guy above average pass-rushers can beat if they have any ability to show him different techniques (Mckinney does not kick slide very well in pass pro).

Adrian Wilson could be huge in this game by confusing Favre with the “sugar looks” he gives by showing up in the box and then backing out for his coverage responsesibilities. Force Favre out of his comfort zone with these types of different defensive fronts and alingnments.

Slow Percy Harvin. Harvin is the biggest threat to a Cards victory as he is the short area outlet (hot WR) for Favre when Favre gets pressure and is very dangerous is space. Wilson and Rolle needs to come up put some body-rocking and earhole shots on Harvin and limit his after catch explosiveness. Oh yes, and bracket coverage on Harvin is a good idea with the DB over Harvin redirceting Harvin off his route and with some help over the top.

Limit Berrian’s impact. Berrian really hurt the Cards in last year’s game. While a talented player he is not a complete WR. This show’s up on film. Berrian is strictly a deep threat (outside the hash area) and clearout for the other WR’s. I would play a cloud coverage on Berrian in obvious third and long passing situations. Safety over the top and corner in trail 2 technique on Berrian’s hip. That other guy, Sidney Rice is complete and a very good player.

Stay diciplined on special teams. Harvin and Berrian are dangerous. Allow no big plays.

On offense keep the pocket clean with at least some 7 and at times max protection fronts especially if Warner is under center. This is critical. I think Beanie Wells (power and finess) and Boldin (power and courage) need to have huge games in order to contend with the physical nature of the Vikings defense. If this occurs, the Vikings will be force to adjust and our chances to win are increased dramatically.

by Cardsfan81 on Dec 4, 2009 9:21 AM MST reply actions  

Agree with everything you said 81

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't think you try to confuse Favre

hes just too crafty … I think you try and bait him into making big plays, and hope you force turnovers

its big risk / big reward … but I think both teams are going to make big plays, we just need to make more

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

I disagree (some)

All QB’s can be confused by a good and complicated scheme. The football nation just saw it on Monday night when Tom Brady threw 2 picks against the Saints and he looked like a rookie doing it in the game. If the playmakers don’t want to catch the football because they don’t want to get hit—— this will change the complexion of the game. It affects the QB.

Is our DC Davis as good as DC Greg Williams (Saints)? I think he is and we will find out Sunday night.

by Cardsfan81 on Dec 4, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions  

the saints defense is an excellent example of a defensive scheme that baits QB’s into trying for big plays, and creating turnovers … so thx for making my point :)

you honestly think you can rattle guys like Favre with new blitz packages? … not gonna happen

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Dockett can throw an elbow Favre's way.

; )

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

easy

karma is a bitc# and i’d like to watch both Favre and Warner play in the post season

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey quid

My point was Welker was getting blasted and Randy Moss would not catch anything when he was asked to go inside the hash area. He saw how Welker was getting hit and he didn’t want the football. With Wilson and Rolle roaming this becomes a possibilty in this game. Wilson is devastating as a hitter.

by Cardsfan81 on Dec 4, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

totally agree … but the Saints also got pressure on Brady, it forces the QB to make the quick decision (bait). And when the DBs can look into the back field and keep that play in front of them, you can see the results. The Saints are going to be a very difficult team to beat.

/sigh … what were we talking about?

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree

but S. Rice is the WR to keep an eye on. Berrian’s very one-dimensional and easy to limit. Rice is a stud.

by KDean75 on Dec 4, 2009 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Damn you Fitz,

I hope that doesn’t come back to hurt us. lol

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Berrian isn’t as dangerous this season because of a nagging quad injury -something close to that. As far as confusing Favre, that just won’t happen. Yes, your D needs to focus on Harvin (he’s a faster Wes Welker type) and the 6’4" Sidney Rice (another Fitzgerald in the making).

by kenbomc on Dec 4, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

2+2=4

So bracket Harvin (2) + double Berrian (2) = 4 DBs. Linbacker on Rice? Single coverage with nickleback on rice? Only 6 in the box to stop Peterson?
Your plan sounds good…if you can play 14-15 players on defense.

by Suiter on Dec 5, 2009 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Scheme

You didn’t read the post correctly. Harvin comes off the bench as a sub-package player right ? When he enters then you double him as has been suggested. Berrian I’m not as concerned about. Just acknowledging what he is as a player (quick strike). Coverage will probably be rolled to Rice as he is Favre’s favorite target on normal down and distance plays.

Sub-package defense with 2-3-6 or 2-2-7 looks will allow the double coverage in the secondary in obvious passing situations. Coverage based schemes do work if designed and played effectively.

by Cardsfan81 on Dec 5, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Still too simplistic

Probably 50-70% of the Viking’s offensive plays will have all three receivers, Shiancoe, and either Peterson or Taylor alone in the backfield. You do not have enough cover people to double more than one receiver without leaving someone in a huge mismatch. Even if DRC is the one left one-on-one with the “unbracketed” wide receiver, a linebacker has to cover Shiancoe one-on-one, and another has to cover Peterson or Taylor one-on-one. Perhaps a zone scheme is the only solution?

by Suiter on Dec 5, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

No

Favre would have a field day. Combination coverages disguised. Create some doubt between the WR’s and Favre.

by Cardsfan81 on Dec 5, 2009 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

3 WR 2 RB shotgun formation

yeah i suggest this all the time. It puts all of our most explosive playmakers on the field at once.

Spread out that secondary, screen passes when it makes sense. Beanie and Timmy could be dynamite if they are on the field at the same time.

as for our defense: play disciplined. If our offense is firing on all cylinders and our defense plays smart this is definetely a winnable game.

We need to get revenge on Favre for what he did to us last year as a Jet. We all also have a score to settle with the Vikings for the beatdown they layed on us in 08. Now we have the chance to do all that in one game.

Look for Calais Campbell to have a big game.

by CardsDefense on Dec 4, 2009 9:27 AM MST reply actions  

let's hope CC does have a big game.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

It could work

Cardsdefense, I have asked myself some of the very same questions. That 3 WR, 2 RB alignment would put tremendous pressure on the defense and force the defense to cover every blade of grass on the field. I’m not being critical here just thought provoking. I think we don’t see it see it for a couple of reasons.

First, Wells has not gained Whisenhunt’s total confidence as a player that can handle blitz pick-up recogniztion and execution. Wells is also putting the ball on the carpet much too much for Whisehunt’s liking.

One thing I do like about this formation is it will slow down a rush by occupying LB’s because they must wait a split second before declaring their responsibilities whether coverage, rush or run.

Maybe we will see this formation this week. It is not something the Vikings will have seen on film. I agree it will cause problem for the Vikings. Your point is a valid one——to dictate to the defense and not the other way around.

If CC is going to have a monster game this is the game to have it.

by Cardsfan81 on Dec 4, 2009 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Hrmmm.

If I was the Cards and had to play my Vikes- this is what I’d do.

On D-

Really I have no clue…people STILL sell out to stop AD even after Favre has been torching fools the last few weeks. I don’t know? Stop AD and let Favre eat you? Or play coverage and let AD be AD? Really is pick your poison. I say your best chances are in a shoot out so you play coverage. If AD runs up and down the field at least it takes us longer to score and would eat up more time.

On O-
TE pass has been our only really large weakness. If Winfield plays, there isn’t a guy on the team you can really target save the saftey T. Johnson..and you have to have a lot of time to throw the ball that far..something our front 4 just doesn’t give. If Winfield is out again, you have to try to make mismatches versus Karl Paymah, Benny Sapp, or Asher Allen.

Special teams- don’t kick to Harvin. Seriously.

by Jepp The Viking on Dec 4, 2009 10:21 AM MST reply actions  

No offense but the Vikings aren't unstoppable

The 49ers really beat the Vikings but a lucky pass went the Vikings way. The Ravens were a crappy field goal kicker away from beating the Vikings in the home place as well. If the Cardinals play smart and don’t turn the ball over they explosive enough to beat any team.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

c'mon

the Vikes destroyed the 9ers that whole game, but got lazy and made mistakes and turnovers in the 4th … if the 9ers had won that game, the Vikes still would have beaten them everywhere but the scoreboard … and also, that pass wasn’t luck

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Mistakes and turnovers are a part of the game.

The 49ers had a terrible game offensively, but with football there are two side of the ball and they played good on defense. They 49ers stupidly couldn’t run out the clock and punted the ball back, only to have Favre chuck pass to the endzone to a nobody wide receiver who barely tapped his feet down. Luck? Maybe not but everything fell into place for the Vikings. My point is that the 49ers – whom nobody seems worried about – could’ve easily beat the Vikings – the unstoppable juggernaut.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Pittsburgh punked the Vikes, and held the offense to 3 points in the 2nd half. Harvin returned a K to keep the game close.

no one is unbeatable … where are you getting that from?

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

The general concensus and feeling from Cardinals fans/Vikings fans

Seems like everyone is hyping up the Vikings. I can’t agree with you on the Steelers game. The Vikings had a touchdown called back because of a trip that never happened. Had the Vikings scored, it would’ve put the game away IMO.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Not just because I’m a Vikings homer either…
Our D pretty much shut down the Steeler’s offense in that game.
14 of their points were off of our ‘mistakes’.

But then… that’s why they play the game.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 4, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 4, 2009 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

geez u guys

I never said the Steelers out played the Vikes … I said they ‘punked’ them. Which is what the Steelers do to win some ballgames (see 99 yard interception return in last years SB). And as much as I don’t want to, one has to give them some credit for making plays.

But that was the one time this year Favre looked bad … and I think we can agree (with allot of arguing) that in the NFL the final score is all that matters.

Andrew – the Vikes hype comes with an 10-1 record and the mere presence of Brett Favre. Give yourself permission to debate with your head, and you can still root with your heart :)

The Vikes are favored by 3

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 11:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t forget the 49ers lucky blocked field goal attempt. If that didn’t happen, the game would’ve been over much earlier.

Favre joined the Vikings in time for their second pre-season game. As the season went on, Favre has become more familiar with his WR’s and the Vikings overall have become stronger every week.

by kenbomc on Dec 4, 2009 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I understand they have a great run defense...

but that doesn’t mean it can’t be beaten. Yes, other teams have certainly failed in this aspect. I’d say about 10 other teams have failed. I don’t see Whiz as a coach that is incapable of succeeding where other coaches have failed. Case in point, look at how successful he’s been with the Cardinals. So, in response to a few posts above, allow me to make a few points:

1) Run. We have to run. It doesn’t matter what other teams have failed at previously. We need to be succesful in this one aspect. If we abandon the run, we are handing the Vikings defensive line a free pass to forget we oven own a running back and just go quarterback headhunting all day long. We don’t want to do that with our current struggles at left tackle. We have crafty running plays in our arsenal and we can utilize those, as well as throwing in some “down your throat” run plays, to keep the defense honest.

2) Big plays are great. Those are not going to win the game for us this week. The Vikes are too consistent in their coverage, especially if Winfield plays. Nickel and Dime strategy will be huge. What’s the quickest way to frustrate a sack-hungry, blitzing defense? Short, quick throws. We can march right down the field all day long with 5 yard dump-offs. The beauty of this is we can spin the tempo our direction all game. If we can establish a run, then we pull the defense up a bit and can then open up the play-action. If they stack up against the run to start and are blitzing, we can screen pass and check-down against them. Tight end play will be huge if we can get several 5-10 yard dump offs to the TE. Doing so will force the Vikings, especially the defensive line and linebackers, to play back on their heels a bit. Once they are on their heels from the dump-offs, run it on them again. Off balance is the key to beating the defense.

3) Cardinals on D. Forget about AP. That’s right, I said it. Forget about Adrian Peterson. Let’s face facts here, the offensive line for the Vikings has been dominant in pass protection. However, they haven’t opened up enough holes to give AP the game controlling performances he had in previous years. Now, I’m sure several of you will say this is mostly due to the emphasis the Vikings have placed in their successful passing game. Still, I don’t think the Vikings are changing their offense to beat our defense. In that case, Peterson is Chris Johnson from last week. He can get 150 yards and that isn’t what is going to beat us. What’s going to beat us is the pass.

Now, I’m not saying forget completely about AP. I’m saying that we don’t stack up against him and game plan against him. We focus all of our energy into making Favre hate life this Sunday. We hit him every chance we get. If we have to give up a 10 yard pass to put him down, we do it. We want him hurrying his throws. We also need to be more physical with their receivers. Check them on the line – let them know we aren’t scared. The Vikings are going to come out throwing. If we can make them keep an extra blocker at the line just to keep Favre standing, that’s one less option in the secondary. Favre is the key to this offense though. If we force them to change that, and change their game plan, it will give us control of the outcome.

We need to start, though, by not idolizing them. Like I said before, they aren’t Gods. We have the talent needed to beat them. I would say, arguably, we have the best talent of any team they’ve played thus far.

by SundayBlitz on Dec 4, 2009 11:01 AM MST reply actions  

Good points SundayBlitz

Welcome to ROTB by the way.

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by Andrew602 on Dec 4, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

who said they were gods?

I missed it if someone did … what the Vikes are is a very good and consistent team. The Saints aren’t gods either, but they did serve notice last Monday night that they might be the best in the NFC. But I agree the Cards have the talent to beat anyone, all I’ll say is if the Cards can’t pressure the QB it wont matter who they play.(see Vince Young)

you are classic though bro …
‘3) Cardinals on D. Forget about AP. That’s right, I said it. Forget about Adrian Peterson.’

‘Now, I’m not saying forget completely about AP.’

lol … jk man :)

idk, the Vikes secondary can be abused, and passing is the Cards strength. Who ever plays QB does not want to be holding onto the ball for very long. And we cant give up too many sacs.

whiz will use the pain of last weeks loss to motivate the team … think about it, a nationally televised game with the extra TV timeouts. Halftime score and adjustments will be huge. Players know when the extra super slow-mo HD cameras are there. I think its pretty safe to assume both of these teams will come into this game with mutual respect and ready to play.

The Cards are the defending NFC champs after all, but also, don’t forget the Vikes kicked our a$$es last year with Tavaris … lots of story lines

by quid pro quo on Dec 4, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Ha ha. Like I said earlier, teams have been focusing on Peterson the entire season. It has nothing to do with our line. Yes, 150 yards won’t hurt your team, but the 3 td’s he’ll score will.

by kenbomc on Dec 4, 2009 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

ONLY ONE KEY TO SUCCESS FOR ARIZONA

If you guys don’t have Kurt Warner playing you will be beaten badly Sunday night. Without him you are a .500 team. Trust me, after seeing what Farve has done for the Vikings, you can have all the talented guys in the world and still flounder without a leader.

by jimbo2 on Dec 4, 2009 8:36 PM MST reply actions  

?????

Is that a morale voctory?
Seriously…didn’t we get past those types of arguments (my dad can beat up your dad) back in first grade?? (Ginger?)

by Suiter on Dec 5, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

lol

I’m saying, Leinart’s all right but I can understand where he’s coming from.

by tw3kr on Dec 6, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

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