Arizona Cardinals Expected to Tag Karlos Dansby

by Hawkwind on Feb 17, 2009 2:36 PM MST Comment 18 comments

According to NFL Network's Adam Schefter, the Arizona Cardinals will place the franchise tag on Karlos Dansby. We talked about how important Dansby was just five days ago and ROTB's plan to keep him was the put the tag on him.

As we said earlier, that'll mean that Dansby will count 9.6 million against the cap in 2009 but the Cardinals will have until the middle of July to negotiate a new deal. This will allow Rod Graves to shift his attention to other key free agents such as Kurt Warner, J.J Arrington, Bertrand Berry and maybe even Antonio Smith. Once the free agent fires die down, Graves will have to get Dansby locked up long term though.Do you like the move?

~~There's no official word from the team yet (offices were closed yesterday) but Shefter is about as reliable as they get so we'll assume this is an accurate report.~~

Update: According to Kent Somers, this is official and the Cardinals used the non-exclusive tag. That basically means that Dansby can still negoitate with any team in the league and the Cardinals would have the first right of refusal if another team offers him a contract. The kicker is though, if the Cardinals decline to match they receive two first round picks as compensation. Dansby's agent, Kirk Wood, has been in negotiations but the two sides are considered to be close to terms.

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Uh oh....

I still don’t quite understand why players hate being franchised so much — is it because they’re not getting the certainty of a long-term contract?

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by DbacksSkins on Feb 17, 2009 8:14 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Dansby didn't mind the tag last season, actually took it as an honour of sorts but...

… it’s a one year deal and that’s it. If he blows out a knee this year and never is able to fully recover from it, he’s never likely to get the gauranteed money he expects to get with a longterm deal. This has to be a case of Graves wanting to put the hold on Dansby so he can deal with the other uncertainties of the team before returning to Dansby’s deal to figure out how much the signing bonus needs to be to equal at least the $9.6 million number of this year but prorated against a 4-5 year contract. The uncapped year in ’11 also creates some headaches.

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by Hawkwind on Feb 17, 2009 8:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Presumably,

they’re still going to reach a CBA that’ll have a cap in place in 2011.

Otherwise, small- to mid-market teams like the Cards are screwed.

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by DbacksSkins on Feb 17, 2009 8:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Crossing fingers and toes on that one

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by Hawkwind on Feb 17, 2009 9:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

OTOH,

losing the cap would allow Danny Snyder to fulfill his goal of becoming George Steinbrenner. (Minus the whole “being a convicted felon” thing)

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by DbacksSkins on Feb 17, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Players want the security and..

A big signing bonus. That’s upfront money. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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by Andrew602 on Feb 18, 2009 10:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Good move for the Cards

Just hope Capt. Dansby sees it that way. I hope a long term deal is in the worx, keeping top end talent like Dansby is key to the Cards getting the Defense ready for 2009.

by AkVermynking on Feb 17, 2009 11:15 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Sign him to a long term deal.

C’mon, Graves. You know you wanna.

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by DbacksSkins on Feb 17, 2009 3:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Who do the first round picks come from?

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
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by boogatt66 on Feb 17, 2009 3:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

The team that signs him

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by DbacksSkins on Feb 17, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought they were compensatory from the league

and would be located at the end of the 1st round. I may be mistaken.

by AJ BirdWatcher on Feb 17, 2009 3:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I believe

in this case, one pick is compensatory and the other pick is forfeited by the team that signs him. I may be mistaken, though. Hawkwind?

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by DbacksSkins on Feb 17, 2009 3:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

both picks come from the team that signs him

by ianbbc02 on Feb 17, 2009 4:40 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

what if the team gave up it's first pick or something?

That doesn’t sound right. I would imagine it would just be the 33rd and 34th pick. That makes the most sense to me.
Anyone have clarification?

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Feb 17, 2009 9:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

"Compensation Pick" means additional picks after the normal cycle of 32 teams picking in a particular round

If Dansby were to sign with the Eagles, the Cardinals don’t get their picks but a 33rd and 34th pick overall. The “compensation” comes from the NFL, not the team that gained the services of the tagged player. Otherwise it would be a “trade”.

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by Hawkwind on Feb 18, 2009 8:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That doesnt sound that bad but its not worth losing Dansby.

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by Andrew602 on Feb 18, 2009 10:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm mixing my compensatory picks...

…and “tagged” compensation picks are not the same as the league assigned compensatory picks that are given out due to “loss of talent” in April. A tagged player signed by a team (let’s say Eagles) would be owed two first round picks by that team. In the case of the Eagles they can cough up both picks they have or give up their first picks for two years.

I’m so confused…and ignorant. :-P

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by Hawkwind on Feb 18, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I was just gonna write that.

These are “compensation picks” not “compensatory picks.” These actually come from the teams where as the others are allotted at the ends of the rounds, usually the later rounds.

by hevchv on Feb 18, 2009 3:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs