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2009 Arizona Cardinals to Feature Two Offensive Coordinators

As reported by Darren Urban of AZcardinals.com, Coach Whisenhunt has announced that the 2009 offense will feature two coordinators. Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach Russ Grimm will be promoted to Run Game Coordinator, and Wide Receivers Coach Mike Miller will be the Passing Game Coordinator. It is assumed at this time that Whiz will go back to being the lead play caller on game days.

Along with his new duties, it has also been reported that Grimm will continue to coach the offensive line. So for those of you keeping track, he will now be titled "Assistant Head Coach/Running Game Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach", so I expect you all to address him as such. :-)

In addition, in house Defensive Quality Control Coach Matt Raich has been promoted to Linebackers coach to replace the spot vacated by new DC Bill Davis. Two outside hires were also made, including former NFL quarterback Chris Miller to replace Rutledge at quarterbacks coach, and former Rutgers Offensive Coordinator/quarterbacks coach John McNulty will replace Mike Miller as wide receivers coach.

So, what do you fellow ROTBers think of the joint coordinator move? Has anyone ever know this to be done, and do you think Whiz should go back to calling plays?

Update: After some research, the Cowboys actually went with the running game coordinator/passing game coordinator combo during the Parcell's Era. In fact, our very own (former Offensive Coordinator) Todd Haley was the wide receivers coach/passing game coordinator for three seasons in Dallas. It looks like the Cardinals could be grooming Miller to be their 'OC of the future.'

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What do you think of the split offensive coordinator system for the 2009 Arizona Cardinals?
Brilliant Idea - Grimm and Miller will excell as specialists
16 votes
Has potential to work, but could also fail miserably
31 votes
Too many cooks in the kitchen. Will only lead to head butting
18 votes

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Sounds brilliant

Grimm had done fantastic all year with the o-line and with him looking over the running game as well, he could make the running game much more efficient. Having the wide-receivers coach as coordinator of the passing game makes sense as well.

by Thundarr on Feb 18, 2009 6:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Grimm

has certainly been associated with some great running teams in the Steelers and Redskins…

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Feb 19, 2009 7:36 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My vote doesn't really count but.............

I can’t help but wonder what Kurt W.’s vote will be?

by AkVermynking on Feb 18, 2009 6:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm on the fence

Until Kurt signs! Really tough to predict what USC (I always drink liquids outta a gravity bong) Matt would be able to do. Add that to uncertaintity at RB and this is just a plain tough question at this point.

by AkVermynking on Feb 18, 2009 6:36 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I have reservations...

…on this concept. It’s kinda “old-school” in that I Whisenhunt will likely call “run”, Grimm gives him a multiple choice option, and Whiz goes with a play. On obvious passing downs Miller makes some suggestions and Whisenhunt picks one. I worry about the amount of time this all takes on the sidelines and getting the plays in quick enough, especially if Warner is under center and needing his time for pre-snap reads. Delay of game penalties could be all too common. Then again, if Warner is taking the snaps let him call the plays on the field and go truly “old-school”.

The reality is Whisenhunt will be calling the plays again but Grimm/Miller will be doing all the preparation work during the week. During the frequent TV timeouts they’ll powwow but while the play clock is running Whis ought to be doing 80% of the play calls.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Feb 18, 2009 10:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

There will only be one person calling plays...

I think it’s a great idea from a former lineman myself. Nobody has a better comprehension of the run blocking schemes than the oline coach and it will be great having the o-line and rb completely on the same page.
All the different coaches will contribute to will be game planning and I seriously doubt they all will be shouting out plays on the sidelines. I see more of Warner and Whis making the play calls than anyone.

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Feb 19, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This could really work out.

We’ll find out in preseason.

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by Andrew602 on Feb 19, 2009 7:37 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

This smells of one of our

Botched Special Team trick plays. Don’t over think it guys

by badmatty53 on Feb 19, 2009 9:04 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'd much rather have an in house staff that was part of the winning formula...

than somebody else coming in and trying to mess with what works!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Feb 19, 2009 11:28 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I also don't think there over thinking anything...

There will still be another RB coach to work on fundamentals and Grimm will still work with the line. All it is going to effect is our gameplanning.

 I think all of you are over thinking this!!!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Feb 19, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

probably just a one year deal

It sounds like Miller is following the Haley career path and I bet he’s named the full-fledged OC next season and he might even take over play calling duties.

I’m more concerned about the defense though. They’re still saying that they’re going to use some ‘hybrid’ sets instead of going all out 3-4. Maybe I’m just ‘hybrid-ed’ out but I’m ready to run a regular defense set.

by Bezekira on Feb 19, 2009 9:49 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

+1

I don’t see our offense taking too many steps backwards as long the O-line stays healthy. Miller would be my expected OC for next year as well. Adding Grimm’s name muddles things a bit; another strong season and Grimm will likely be a head coach in ’10 anyways.

The defense is where this team stands to make the best improvements and picking one formation over another is a step in the right direction. 3-4 is in vogue again so let’s get it done. As long as we have some diversity on the roster the 4-3 can be in the game plan when it’s an advantage.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on Feb 19, 2009 10:00 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

to both of you and I totally think that this is just something among friends to add to Grimm’s resume` to prepare him for a HC job in ‘10. Miller will definitely take over OC full time in ’10. We also shouldn’t lose much momentum from this year. A win, win for all parties.

by hevchv on Feb 19, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A matter of terminology
I’m more concerned about the defense though. They’re still saying that they’re going to use some ‘hybrid’ sets instead of going all out 3-4. Maybe I’m just ‘hybrid-ed’ out but I’m ready to run a regular defense set.

Every modern 3-4 system uses 4-3 formations, and 4-3 systems use 3-4 formations. It’s just a question of the proportions and personnel. Splitting defensive sets closely into 50-50 3-4 and 4-3 formations might give the D the advantage of unpredictability and flexibility — and I have no doubt that Dockett can be a dominant 3-4 NT.

If the Cards draft a tweener in the ’09 draft, that should help clear up the ambiguity.

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Feb 19, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Dockett

I think NT would be a waste of his talent, move him to end in the 3-4.

by AkVermynking on Feb 19, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

6'4 290lbs

and you want him to play as a 3-4 DE?

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Feb 19, 2009 5:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

although he’s a great athlete that will command double teams, he is way to small to play 3-4 tackle. Robinson is 15 lbs heavier and was still too small.

by hevchv on Feb 19, 2009 5:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I think he’s still too slight to play 3-4 DE — I may be wrong, but that’s my sense.

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Feb 20, 2009 5:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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