NFP on Boldin to the Eagles

I can't tell you how much this annoys me. I get the Cards and success have never gone together, but how in the hell is there no mention of why the Cards would do something like this? Oh really, the Eagles and Giants would love Boldin? But why would the Cards do it? --crickets chirping--
I think the National Football Post is a great resource, but this typifies the national articles in regards to Boldin trades. TELL US HOW IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CARDS TO TRADE TO A CONFERENCE FOE AND MAKE THEM STRONGER?
rant over

11 months ago KDean75 9 comments 0 recs |

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Couldn't agree more

I hope the Cards do not trade to anyone in this conference. Especially Philly as they are just a star receiver away from being a Super Bowl team. Giants are already a Super Bowl caliber team they don’t need any more ammunition.

by Pyromnc on Apr 16, 2009 3:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Seriously

It was probably come back to hurt us. The Cards would be stupid to trade Boldin to either team.

Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
Revenge of the Birds

by Andrew602 on Apr 16, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only teams I'd ignore are the NFC West teams

I’ve never understood the “well what if we meet them in the playoffs” argument. The point of a trade is to maximize the your return, not worry about ‘what if’s’ that you can’t control. Could we meet the Giants or Eagles in the playoffs if we trade them Boldin? Sure, but what guarantee will you have that he’ll even play. He’s prone to injuries and the playoffs are no exception (as we saw this year).

If you want to ignore the entire NFC, you cut your market in half thus lowering his value. Then what if we trade him to Jacksonville or Miami and we meet them in the Super Bowl? Well maybe we should ignore them too. The point I’m trying to make is that we can’t be scared of playing Q in the future, it’s going to happen. The primary goal of each and every trade is to maximize the return we get and I don’t think taking the Giants, Eagles and maybe the Bears out of the picture helps maximize his value.

by Bezekira on Apr 17, 2009 7:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Good point

I don’t think we ignore those teams and come out and say we won’t trade to you but if we could avoid trading to an NFC team then I think we should. If we are going to trade him we probably would get the most from the Giants and Philly but again if we can try and get what they would offer from someone like the Raven, who seem to want Boldin pretty badly, or the jets than I would hope the Cards would take that trade.

by Pyromnc on Apr 17, 2009 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

my point

is where’s the other half of the trade, what would the Cards get? What’s the benefit to the Cards?

This is not a rebuilding team, we don’t have to trade off our players to get draft picks. We are the defending NFC champs, we need to be reloading and adding depth. It’s fine to halve your market with the thought that if you are going to trade to the Eagles, they will have to pay more than an AFC. How is that unreasonable?
I’m not playing a what-if game, but since you went there, what if the Cards make the playoffs, but an Eagles team with Boldin has a record one win better than us. I would think that having Boldin could make an impact to the Eagles (as the article goes into detail about), will you be complaining about the move then?

by KDean75 on Apr 17, 2009 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

my counter would be

that trading Boldin helps open the championship window instead of being on a two year plan. He doesn’t want to be here and he’s not going to be a positive influence in the locker room.

I could understand asking an NFC team to pay a slightly higher price but simply say no to anyone in the NFC didn’t make much sense to me.

If we did meet the Eagles in playoffs, I’d probably say that our two first round picks played a big role in our season and have a bright future. I understand your point so I’m not really disagreeing with you, but I just don’t want us to get locked into this “we can’t trade him to anyone that we might play in the future mentality.” I’d much rather ship him to Baltimore or the Jets but if the Eagles are offering a first and third and the Jets are offering just a first, I’d take the Eagles offer and not think twice about it.

by Bezekira on Apr 17, 2009 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Giants/Eagles

I think the biggest point about not wanting to play against Boldin in the future, as it pertains specifically to the Giants and Eagles, is if we trade him to either of those two teams we’ve just automatically turned them into the team to beat in the NFC. The only thing either team appears to be missing is a true #1 receiver, and I’d hate to see the Cardinals being the team that furnishes them with it.

I agree with the concept of not accepting a lesser offer from an AFC team, but remember that the Cards are still dealing from a position of strength right now. We don’t have to move him anywhere, and I’m sure they won’t if they don’t get the requested #1 and #3 picks for him. Of course, by now I think we’re all in agreement that the Eagles are out of the picture (if they were ever in it) and with the Giants already being the biggest threat to our NFC title they should be out of the picture as well. The rest of the NFC may be just as hesitant to trade with us as well, if you’re the GM of the Giants or Eagles do you want to the put the defending NFC champion Cardinals in a position to stockpile draft picks?

by Long Beach on Apr 17, 2009 4:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

My only rebuff is...

that I wouldn’t want to trade him to an NFC team, or to a team we could face next year, because I wouldn’t want a repeat of the Brett Favre episode where he told other teams how to beat the Packers. Yes it happens in the league when players leave via FA or are cut, but I wouldn’t want to just give away my team playbook just for a 1st and or 3rd.

by hevchv on Apr 17, 2009 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably overblown

I won’t claim to know what happened with Favre’s conversation with Millen last season, but I’m sure teams are much better at safeguarding their info than that. Players leave in free agency every year, if giving away the playbook was that easy it would be occurring all the time. If Favre told Millen anything he didn’t already know then it explains why he was possibly the worst GM the league has ever seen.

Plus, if there was inside info being shared then Millen and the Lions need much better sources.

by Long Beach on Apr 17, 2009 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs