Breaking Down the Cardinals Center Situation
In recent posts, there has been a lot of discussion regarding Cardinals current center, Lyle Sendlein, and if the Cardinals should consider drafting a center in the 2009 draft. One of the main questions is whether or not Lyle is indeed
, a starting caliber center in the NFL. He did prove that he could play through a whole season, but most will say he won the position by default, due to Al Johnson's knee injuries. Nevertheless, Sendlein played through some of the 2007 season and all of '08.
The most common criticism towards Sendlein is his size, speed, and aggression. Sendlein currently stands 6'4 inches and weighs about 300 lbs. He's certainly tall enough to play center, but he could stand to add a little weight. As far as speed, he's an offensive lineman and there main job is to protect the quarterback and run-block. So at most, you could knock him for not getting to the secondary quick enough to make blocks. It's hard to judge his aggression, but from what head coach Ken Whisenhunt says, he likes Sendlein, and has stated already that he didn't have plans on replacing him in the draft. Obviously he's doing something right. As far has his skill or effectiveness, lets take a look at his recent stats.
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Year |
G |
GS |
Penalties |
Yards |
False Start |
Holding |
Sacks Allwd |
Yards |
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2007 |
16 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
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2008 |
16 |
16 |
3 |
20 |
1 |
1 |
0.50 |
3.50 |
Obviously, Lyle didn't play much in 2007, but to come in last minute for Al Johnson and play in '07 was pretty impressive. That play carried over to '08 and it showed, as he was able to handle the pressure of starting. He only committed 3 penalties and allowed half a sack. That was by far the best on the entire offensive line. One thing that stats fail to show is his run-blocking. The center is the core of the offensive line and needs to be an effective run-blocker to make it in the NFL (I'm not going to lie...when the play kicks off, I'm usually looking that the quarterback or running back and not watching how well the line is blocking). The only other complaint I've heard is Lyle's tendency to step on quarterback Kurt Warner's foot. This didn't happen much during the rugular season, but seemed to happen quite often during the playoffs. A possible reason could be Lyle getting overly excited due to the fact that they were in the playoffs, or the level of play from the opponents nose tackles. Either way Kurt was able to make a play out of it, including a touchdown.
Now the next question, is whether or not it would be an upgrade to take a center in the draft. How much of an upgrade would it be to add a rookie to the offensive line that is really starting to gel going into their third year together? The most obvious reason would be a quicker, bigger, more physically gifted center. The only
"upgrade" over Sendlein would be Alex Mack out of Cal. Here's a piece from a 'Potential Draft Pick' breakdown we did earlier:
He is very consistent at both pass and run protection. He plays with a low
center of gravity, and shows the proper form when blocking. He doesn't hesitate to put a defender on his back, and won't stop till the whistle blows. He has great hand and feet movement, and will often drive defenders backwards. He is a great guy off the field and is the ideal player for a team, but turns into a beast when on the field. He will often take command of the line and call plays as he sees them. He has great work ethic, and strives to become stronger. In college, he would often stay late in the weight room and as a result, became one of the strongest players on the team.
While Mack will likely be a solid center in the NFL one day, it's not for certain as to whether or not he would be better then Sendlein. Any other centers taken later in the draft would add depth, but wouldn't be ready to start right away. Now's your chance, voice your opinion. What's everybody's take on the center position? Does Sendelein have an upside or is this all he's got? Should the Cardinals consider Mack in the 1st round or add depth later on?
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Good starter
I believe Grimm and Whiz when they say they think Sendlein is a good starter because he was one. The only thing we need to get center wise in this draft is a capable backup to add depth to that line.
by Pyromnc on Apr 17, 2009 12:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Interesting stat line that shows his effectiveness. It seems as though everyone who doubts him forgets how well the line played in their playoff victories, especially against Carolina and Atlanta. He’s got a full season under his belt, he played in the biggest pressure cooker of all (the Super Bowl), and he’s young and possibly about to become the best bargain on the team. With all that he accomplished and was exposed to as a first-year starter, I don’t see anything other than continued improvement from him in the coming years.
by Long Beach on Apr 17, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
competition
If anything they need to draft a center to push Sendlein to become better. That is there philosophy and it is a good one to have.
by Dan M on Apr 17, 2009 12:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Andrew602 on Apr 17, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea I wouldn't mind finding a G/C combo sometime later in the draft
Lyle’s young and let him stay with John Lott over the summer and he’ll come back ready to crack some heads.
by Bezekira on Apr 17, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to sign Lyle to a longterm deal
So I can buy his jersey! Yeah AZ loves Lyle!
by CardsDefense on Apr 17, 2009 1:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
How good is Mack?
Another thing to consider, is how good is Alex Mack? I didn’t pay particular attention to him the few times I saw Cal play, and I know most have him rated as the number one center in the draft. However, if I remember correctly Mike Mayock, who seems to possess a little more insight than most draft “experts” has him ranked behind both Eric Wood from Louisville and Max Unger from Oregon. Some reports claim that Mack spends too much time on the ground. Remember, as well, that the Pac-10 isn’t exactly known for their power running games.
Just something to consider before advocating a first round pick on a position that isn’t our biggest area of need. I do echo the idea of having depth and competition, especially along the o-line, but a first rounder seems to be a reach.
by Long Beach on Apr 17, 2009 1:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Lyle!
He’s a true underdog story and a really good Center who has only begun to tap into his true potential. He’s also a local boy who I played against in high school and helped bump my team in 2000 in the State finals (Glendale Cactus vs. Scottsdale Chaparral). I also think I competed against him at “The Big Man Challenge” at NAU the offseason before 2001 season but not sure if he made that event with the rest of their line. I always got to root for local boys and he makes it easy to cheer on. He’s got great feet and quickness (played LB in HS) and I really haven’t been able to put together why all the people have been dogging him. Really, I think it’s just people regurgitating negative comments on Sendlein without any real knowledge or firsthand evaluation of his play. They see his UFA status and assume they can upgrade him. Maybe there will be another Center that is better to come out of the draft but cohesion and familiarity go a very long way when it comes to the Offensive Line. Why uproot your starter, for unproven talent and what kind of message does it send to your starter when you draft a guy first round at his position?
Another thing people must understand is the Center position doesn’t necessarily have to be a mauler in the run game. Rarely do they have to block a DT by themselves and the majority of the time their main job is getting off to LB’s. The most important thing they have to do is prevent A-gap blitzes and take proper pursuit angles to pick up LB’s, both of which I have seen him do very well. I wouldn’t mind them picking up another Center later in the draft to add depth and push Sendlein. However, I just think drafting one first round is not only a waste of a pick, but it will send the wrong message to the team as a whole.
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by boogatt66 on Apr 17, 2009 2:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
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by Andrew602 on Apr 17, 2009 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great write up Boogatt!
Completely agreed. I think we should put this discussion to bed because Lyle is the man and needs to be locked up into a long term deal.
Add depth, but that depth behind Lyle.
by CardsFan08 on Apr 18, 2009 1:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
That was a very insightful post.
by Long Beach on Apr 18, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering when you'd jump in
I’ve taken your word on him from the start
by Bezekira on Apr 20, 2009 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
They really
need someone though for depth. I don’t think OC is their greatest need on the team and doubt that they spend early rounds on one. OG or OT would be the better choice in early rounds. Sendlein does a good job and should be the starter but that is not to say someone could come in and beat him out this year or next. I still see taking a late 7th round or UFA OC for depth like Dallas Reynolds or someone like Brett Helms that can be versatile at OG/OC. Another week and we will know for sure on this topic.
by kj197728 on Apr 17, 2009 4:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Andrew602 on Apr 18, 2009 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am good with Lyle, just need to get him to "bulk up"
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