Picking Up the Pieces After the Arizona Cardinals Cut Three Key Veterans
As Andrew reported, the Arizona Cardinals parted ways with three key veterans yesterday afternoon who had combined to start 33 games for the Cardinals last year and 81 games overall during their time in the desert. Edgerrin James has been anxiously awaiting his release since the Super Bowl ended so his release wasn't a surprise to anyone, but the same can not be said for Travis LaBoy and Roderick Hood. The Cardinals basically got caught in a numbers game after drafting two outside linebackers, a safety and a corner back, but the salaries of LaBoy and Hood also played a smaller role. In an clear reminder that today's NFL is still driven by balance sheets and income statements, we take a look at what each player's departure means to the Cardinals and his position.
Over the next week or so we'll take a look back at each players' time with the Cardinals and remember their best games. It's also worth remembering that we're talking about the team's biggest off season acquisition for each of the past three seasons (Edge in '06, Hood in '07 and LaBoy in '08), but for now here's a quick look at the thought process behind each cut.
Edgerrin James: James is the easy guy to analyze because we've all known that this day would come for nearly three months. Edge didn't want to come back and, at his price, the Cardinals didn't necessarily want him back either. Cutting him saved the Cardinals about $5 million in cap space.
Roderick Hood: In hindsight maybe we should have seen this coming, the Cardinals have added three corner backs over the past twelve months including two draft picks and one free agent signing. Hood, who signed a five year deal worth $15 million before the 2007 season, had started 30 games over the past two seasons and led the team with 35 passes defended and six interceptions over that period of time. As recent as early last season he was considered the team's best corner but with the emergence of DRC and the signing of Bryant McFadden, Hood's future as a starter was in jeopardy, if not completely taken away. His departure solidifies McFadden's starting role and leaves Ralph Brown and recent fourth round pick Greg Toler as the the primary backups although second year corner Michael Adams and free safety Antrel Rolle could also play a role in the battle for nickel or dime corner. Ultimately Hood's release saves the Cardinals about two million against the cap in 2009 but you've got to wonder if another team wouldn't have given up something for a decent corner with starting experience, even if the return was as small as a late round pick next year.
Travis LaBoy: LaBoy has endured quite a bit in the past 12 months. This time last year he was the prized acquisition (five year deal worth $22 million) of the Cardinals and he quickly won the starting job during training camp. In the season opener he recorded two sacks and a forced fumble and he followed that up with two more sacks in the fifth game of the season. During the bye week last year everyone at ROTB jumped on the LaBoy bandwagon and we even went as far to say:
The most promising aspect of LaBoy's season to date is that he's still
growing in his position and in this new defense. His most productive games should still be ahead of him and as he grows more comfortable he might very well end up being one of the better pass rushers in the NFC.
I think it goes without saying that we're feeling a bit foolish today. Almost as soon as the ink dried on that statement, LaBoy became virtually invisible on the field and could only be found in the training room. After 20 tackles and four sacks in the first six games he'd go on to record just 13 tackles and zero sacks for the rest of the season, including the playoffs. He struggled with various injuries and ended the season as arguably the most disappointing member of the 2008 squad, but that doesn't mean that his release isn't a a surprise. The Cardinals certainly have depth at outside linebacker after drafting two prospects this past weekend, but having three older veterans, all three of which are have a history or injuries, and two completely unproven rookies doesn't seem to inspire much confidence. When you add in the fact that it actually cost the Cardinals money and hurt the salary cap to cut LaBoy, you've got to wonder if there is more to the story. What makes this move even less puzzling is that the Cardinals had already paid out a $1.5 million roster bonus this year to LaBoy. In the end the cap room that it cost to cut LaBoy nearly canceled out the room that they freed up by cutting Hood.
-----------------------------------------------------
It's become a common place in today's NFL for veterans to become salary cap casualties and the Cardinals cleaned up some of their veteran presence yesterday when they parted ways with Edgerrin James, Roderick Hood and Travis LaBoy. In total the net effect of the three moves leaves the team roughly $6.7 million under the cap and there is some hope that the free room will be used to extend some combination of Adrian Wilson, Anquan Boldin or Karlos Dansby. How do you feel about the cuts? Are there other players that you'd have rather released and are there any other cuts that should be made?
0 recs |
39 comments
|
Comments
Nice post...
I’m going to miss LaBoy the most. He was fun to watch. Non-stop motor.
I think our secondary is stronger than last year regardless of how effective Toler is in year 1 because of the way the Cards use their safeties in the nickel/dime packages. McFadden is better than Hood making the base unit better. And I expect Johnson to produce early. The Cards will utilize him when Rolle covers the slot. The book on Johnson is that he has very good ball skills, which is exactly what the Cards need. He should be better than Francisco in this regard making our nickel/dime packages stronger than last year.
by jallred350 on Apr 29, 2009 9:33 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
on we should have tried to trade Hood. I don’t like the move, but that’s mainly because anything that means that A. Francisco has a greater likelyhood of staying on the team is bad. I would rather not see him on the field ever, except for playing special teams, I guess.
by KDean75 on Apr 29, 2009 9:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
its funny about fransisco
because just 2 years ago people were talking about how he could be the starting FS in ’07 and how good he looked in ’06. I for one thought the same thing and when they signed good ole Terrence Holt I was ticked thinking that Fransisco should have been given the nod.
I agree we should have tried to trade Hood. I sure hope the corners can stay healthy and that Toler steps up to what he is currently expected to. I think the LaBoy cut is going to come back and bite us in the butt. Right now I am having a hard time going with my kool aid drinking melody of “trust in Whiz”. I just dont understand it. Maybe thats why I am in Real Estate though and not the NFL.
Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
by sc464 on Apr 29, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading those guys would only have helped...
if we got draft picks for them. When cutting payroll, it isn’t good to add more. The priorities are KD, AW and Q. We need $$ for that.
by hevchv on Apr 29, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even with cutting those players
we won’t have enough $$ to extend AW and Q. Dansby would help the cap situation if he would come down to Earth and realize he isn’t as good as he thinks he is but right now I doubt anything gets done with Dansby. Right now we have 6.7 mil to sign our draft picks.
by Pyromnc on Apr 29, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was AJ who said there is already cap space put aside for draft picks to be signed.
As far as the resigns, if Dansby were to sign long-term(which I doubt), we would be paying him that crazy franchise tag money of almost $9 million for 1 year. That right there would free up more space to then sign more players.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Apr 29, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
*I meant we wouldn't be paying Dansby that franchise tag money.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Apr 29, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Dansby's tender is closer to 10 mil which is just outrageous.
As for the money being put aside for the draft pick, I forgot about that. That means the Cards have 6.7 mil to resign Wilson and Q. Hopefully the priority is Wilson right now as this is his contract year and he is probably the most important player on our D right now.
by Pyromnc on Apr 29, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Our defense goes to shit without AW in
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Apr 29, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the beauty of picking later in the draft
Our draft picks won’t count much against the cap at all.
here’s a pretty decent estimate of Wells and Brown’s contracts based on last year’s picks in the same slot (plus 5%):
Wells – 5 years – 11.75 total(3 mil of which is in incentives) – 2.66 mil signing bonus
Brown – 4 years – 2.75 total – 935k signing bonus
That won’t kill the cap room at all. For the rest of the guys, I think they’re all at the minimum.
by Bezekira on Apr 29, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
dansby saw what C. Pace got- cant blame him for expecting the same love…
by snmvandy on Apr 29, 2009 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I didn’t see that comin. They should have kept hood. We are in a division with T.J. Houshamaloo and now Michael Crabtree. We need corners!
I thought Laboy was good as well… but I’m not as concerned with his departure.
Hopefully this means one of two things.
1. We extend A dub or Q…. (Dansby obviously won’t be a cardinal after this season.)
2. they will sign a free agent or two. I think they should get Larry Foote. He could play in the middle with Hayes, with Dansby and Okeafor flanking outside.
Only time will tell I guess
by CardsDefense on Apr 29, 2009 10:45 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't mind Foote
but he is not coming here. First of all he will command about 2-3 mil in cap space, 2nd of all he wants to start, and 3rd of all he wants to go to the Lions.
by Pyromnc on Apr 29, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea it almost sounds like Foote is going to pay the Lions
I’ve never heard a player come out and talk so openly about wanting to a play for a certain team, especially a really bad one.
by Bezekira on Apr 29, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would start
if the cards signed him he could start as an inside linebacker next to Hayes. Besides Detroit is high on their 2nd year MLB Jordan Dizon. last but not least….. we should have the cap room because I doubt Boldin will sign, Dansby definitely won’t, which only leaves A dub. I think there would be enough space left even after adrian wilson signs an extension…. especially if they work it right.
by CardsDefense on Apr 29, 2009 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a lock that he would start inside.
Right not it is Hayes and Dansby. Dansby has flourished as an ILB and I would expect him to stay there. If Foote is signed it is just to add depth the the ILB position.
by Pyromnc on Apr 29, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Hayes over Foote anyday
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Apr 29, 2009 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaBoy
I bet he won’t last long on the market. Some team will pick him up as a situational rusher and try to limit his snaps to keep him healthy. My top three possible teams are SF, BUF and DAL….why? Because each of those teams watched him terrorize their QB’s last year.
by Bezekira on Apr 29, 2009 10:53 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how his physical will go with those teams.
If the Cards cut him for injury reasons I would have to wonder if I was a team signing him on why he was cut.
by Pyromnc on Apr 29, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
maybe that biceps injury is worse than previously reported
by Bezekira on Apr 29, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It kept him out for a while
And if you think about how many moves a DE makes with their arms, that injury was critical.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Apr 29, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some clarification from Kent Somers
Somer’s most recent blog sheds some light on Hood’s release, check this out:
Hood told me this morning that he had earned a play-time incentive that would have boosted his salary by $2 million. That means he would have made $5 million in salary and his cap number would have been $5.5 million in 2009. That’s too much to pay for a backup cornerback.
“When they brought me here, I think they thought I would be a nickel corner,” Hood said. “When I hit that incentive, it was tough to keep me. I enjoyed my run in Arizona. I had a great run.”
The cap savings from cutting Hood are greater than I realized yesterday, when I thought his base salary was $3 million. The extra $2 million in savings means the club saves about $7.5 million by cutting Hood, Edgerrin James and Travis LaBoy.
Before the moves, the team was about $1.2 million under the cap, so it should be about $8.7 million under now. (Unless there are more bonuses, escalators and the like that I don’t know about it.)
The move still sucks but I guess it makes more sense if he was actually going to carry a cap hit of over $5 million. That’s too much for a nickel corner and might have made it very hard to move him as well.
by Bezekira on Apr 29, 2009 11:14 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the clarification
now it makes more sense.
by CardsDefense on Apr 29, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Hood the best
He’s been a great contributor and a real surprise since coming to AZ. May he have a long fruitful career and who knows, maybe we pick him back up down the road.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Apr 29, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the clarification
Until this I just wasn’t able to fully come to terms with Hood’s release. Everyone else made sense, even if LaBoy was great starting off. It’s going to be tough to make the 53 and having him on and off the field with nagging injuries just won’t cut it this year.
by CardsFan08 on Apr 29, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure people have read the update on this but....
Apparently Hood never reached that play time incentive. So he would have still only counted about 3 mil against the cap this season. This means the Cards are back to about 6.7 mil under the cap.
by Pyromnc on May 1, 2009 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dansby, ADub and Q v. the recent cap casulties
It is ovious that the Cards cut these three players to save money to try and extend contracts to Dansby, ADub and Q. Dansby’s run in the playoffs along with the national publicity has only bolstered his contract demands. The Cards would be crazy to pay Dansby the franchise tag money this year without signing an extension. He’s looking to get paid and the Cards are in a bind. ADub is second to Q as far as guys who are the heart and soul of the franchise. He’s a great player who deserves an extension and he would help keep the D in great shape heading foward. I like that he has not gone public with any griping or trade demands. Class guy. Q is by far the heart of this team. however, his actions over the past year, along with his physicality on the field will hurt his chances of getting extended. Because Q is so tough and plays the way he does, he becomes injury prone. I think the Cards will tell him to play one more year and then they will trade him next offseason regardless of what the return is. I think the Cards are hoping that Q plays with a chip on his shoulder so his value won’t decline next year. This could backfire but we’ll have to wait and see. I think of all the three, Dansby and Wilson will get restructured and extended. Q is the odd man out as much as that pains me to say. All three are looking to get paid $20 mil up front and the Cards don’t have that kind of scratch to pay all three. Sooner or later some money has to go to the defense. Keeping Dansby and Wilson is the right move. Hopefully that kid from LSU they signed last year will be ready to step in Q’s shoes once he leaves.
by haas on Apr 30, 2009 12:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Dansby is as good as gone
he fired his agent because he almost had a deal done with the cards. He doesn’t want to resign. He wants to go into an uncapped year as the top linebacker prospect so he can get as much cash as possible. There is no way the Whiz and co. will pay this guy what he wants. He will go to the highest bidder. Q might resign…. but most likely it will be next season if at all. A dub would be the one to focus on this offseason. He is extremely talented and adds so much to the team. A dub will be back.
by CardsDefense on Apr 30, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
KD's tag will burden us until it is dealt with.
He will not resign with us next year unless we are the highest bidder. He has already signed his tender this year so we can’t just cut him. With his cap hit, our hands are tied with extending anyone else. I say trade him to an AFC team for picks and/or some youth and then extend AW and Q. Unfortunately noone will take him except maybe the Raiders (I think he is fast enough for Al Davis) which would make this an unattainable goal. Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to … I got nothing. Anyway, he will ruin everything we have worked for (like I’m part of the equation). He needs to go. I was first upset with Q for being greedy. Now I digress. He’s not looking for $10 mil like Fitz, just what he is worth ($7-$9 mil). KD just wants to be the highest paid player ever. And he is willing to hold the Cards future ransom to get it. ?? for anyone. If you cut a franchise player, how much do you owe him? There is no bonus so what would the cap hit and penalty be? If its is minimal, I say CHUNK the CHUMP!
by hevchv on Apr 30, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we trade Dansby, who's the starting ILB?
We’ve got jack behind him at depth so you’d have to roll with Ali Highsmith as the starter or Victor Hobson. That would be horrible. We can make it through this year with his tag. It’s not the best scenerio but trading him for picks would be much worse.
by Bezekira on Apr 30, 2009 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only way it would have made sense is if...
we traded him before this last draft to get James Laurinitis. You got it right by it would be stupid to really trade him at this point.
by Pyromnc on Apr 30, 2009 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only looking at it from a #'s standpoint.
With our inability to make the necessary extensions because of his contract, we will have more unhappy players that will be bad for the locker room. Yes they have been model citizens, but how long will they last before the blow up, especially if they continue to play at a pro bowl level? Not denying KD’s talent, just arguing his overall worth when its all said and done. And no we don’t have anyone to take his spot on the roster yet.
by hevchv on Apr 30, 2009 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now....
the only people we heard be vocal about not being happy have been Q, James, and Docket. James is gone, Q hasn’t been as vocal about his contract so far this year, and I haven’t heard anything from Docket about his contract since last offseason. Danby’s contract may be affecting our salary cap but it isn’t affecting the moral or camaraderie in the locker room. Also of that group only Q made it to the pro bowl this past season. Maybe Docket and Q start up again but so far they have shown no indication of doing so.
Since we did not trade Dansby before the draft, his value is huge to us right now as we can’t get anything back in return for this season that would do what he can do. My bet is he doesn’t get traded but this is his final year in a Cards uni, unless a CBA is reached before next offseason.
by Pyromnc on May 1, 2009 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless....
you trade him for someone’s #1 next year, then sign larry foote when the steelers cut him!
I don’t think that will happen, I think we will have dansby for this last year before he bounces.
by CardsDefense on Apr 30, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

























