ROTB All-Cardinal Team: Offensive Line
Before we get to the next position, I think it's safe to say that Larry Centers won the full back spot on our all-Cardinal team. Many thanks to all that voted for him. The next position up is offensive lineman. The Cardinals have had some great lineman in the past, but not so many recently. And maybe not so much to do a valid pole. So the locks so far on the team start with the obvious, Dan Dierdorf. He will be named the as the 1st starting tackle. We also felt that Conrad Dobler should be named as one of starting guards. Ernie McMillan gets the other tackle spot, along with Ken Gray getting the other guard. The center position could either go to Tom Banks or
Bob DeMarco. So what we've decided to do here is make Dierdorf, Dobler, McMillin, and Gray as locks for the O-line, and the center position will be up for grabs.
Dan Dierdorf T ('71-'83) - 6-time Pro Bowler, 6-time 1st team All Pro, added to 70's All Decade team, and Hall of Famer.
Deirdorf was a second round pick by the St. Louis Cardinals in 1971. He started his career at left tackle and guard before solidifying the right tackle position for the next 8 years. He spent a total of 13 seasons as part of the St. Louis Cardinals and played in 160 games. For the 1976 and 1977 seasons, Dierdorf manned a streak in which he didn't allow any sacks, and was part of an offensive line that only gave up 8 sacks in 1975 (which was the record at the time). Deirdorf went on to play center towards the end of his illustrious career. He will be remembered as possibly the greatest Cardinals offensive lineman of all time and that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
Ernie McMillan T ('61-'74) - 4 Pro Bowls & 2 All Pros
McMillan, the other tackle, didn't get drafted until the 13th round out of Illinois, but that didn't stop him from playing in the NFL for 14 seasons and playing in over 170 games, 162 consecutively. He was elected to four Pro Bowls and two All-Pro teams. The St. Louis Cardinals enjoyed six winning seasons during McMillan's 14 years including a playoff appearance. The McMillan's are also quite a football family. His son and nephew have both played in the NFL. His son, Erik, is a two time Pro Bowler and 1988 Defensive Rookie of Year for the New York Jets. His nephew, Howard Richards, was a first round pick of the Dallas Cowboys in 1981.
Conrad Dobler G ('72-'77) - 3-time Pro Bowler
Dobler was drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in 1972 in the 5th round. He was a member of that great offensive line of the '70s. He was a constant force on the offensive line and his trash talking always had an affect on the defense. He's also
been regarded as one of the dirtiest players in NFL history, as he would do anything he could to make a play, usually spitting in a players face or tripping them. ESPN.com lists him as one of the dirtiest saying,
"Dobler didn't care who got hurt. He punched Mean Joe Greene, he kicked Merlin Olsen in the head, he bit, he gouged, and once, he spit on a downed and injured opponent, the Eagles' Bill Bradley."
Ken Gray G ('58-'69) - 6 Pro Bowls & 2 All Pros
Gray was a former 6th round pick of the 1958 draft. He played 11 seasons for the Cardinals until his last year in which he played for the Houston Oilers. In his time
as a Cardinal, he was elected to 6 Pro Bowls and was added as an All Pro 7 times. At his time he was a large dominant guard standing 6 feet tall, 2 inches and 245 pounds. Just look for yourself at the picture on the left. Big guy right? He was also one of the most durable lineman of his time playing in 161 games as a Cardinal.
Bob DeMarco C ('61-'69) - Pro-Bowl '63, '65, '67, All-Pro '67, '69
Demarco can be considered one of the all time steals by the Cardinals as he was taken in the 14th round of the 1960 draft. Demarco later went on to play in 15 seasons for 4 different NFL teams. He played 9 of those seasons with the St. Louis Cardinals, playing in 107 games. He was selected to two 1st team All-Pro, and 5 1st team all-conference. Demarco was a rather large center at the time standing 6'2, 248 lbs.
Tom Banks C ('71-'80) - Pro-Bowl '75-'78 & 1 All Pro
Another late round steal at center was Tom Banks. He was taken in the 8th round, 189th overall in the 1971 draft by the St. Louis Cardinals. This means the Cardinals had 2 decades straight of pro bowl play at the center position. The 6'1, 245 center was also part of that formidable offensive line in 1975. He was selected to 4 pro bowls, one 1st team All-Pro, and three 1st team all conference teams.
Other then the center position, here is you All-Cardinals offensive line. The center spot will be announced next week to join them. Was there anybody left off of the list or anybody more worthy to be on the offensive line? If you feel another player deserved to be on the team, drop a comment with who and why. Leonard Davis anyone?
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I couldn't vote.
Yes I have been a fan for a while, but back then I was only a fan of the skill players, not the complete fan I am today.
by hevchv on Apr 9, 2009 8:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
what about bob young?!
i’ve been a fan of this franchise for over 40 years and i remember those mid 70’s team very well and a very key member of the offensive line that is always forgotten was bob young! sure dierdorf was really good but in my opinion, dobler was a little overrated! sure he was tough and he bit, scratched, and clawed and gouged everyone because he was always getting overpowered by the bigger d-lineman! bob young on the other hand, was truly a beast! i specifically remember him throwing around the leagues top lineman then! not only that,he was widely considered one of the strongest men in the world at that time and after he was done playing football, he was a regular in the strongest man contest. he didn’t stay in st. louis long but he made an impact while he was there! another lineman who doesn’t get credit was luis sharpe! one of the very best pass blocking tackles of his era! sure he had problems off the field but his work on the feild should be noted.
by lifelongcardfan on Apr 10, 2009 12:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to RotB
It wasn’t just “problems off the field.” He is on his second prison sentence. Do you think Michael Vick would be in a poll for best Atlanta QBs of all time?
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by Red Reign on Apr 10, 2009 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Young was certainly in consideration for a tackle spot. Lineman are hard to quantify statistically and with so many of the candidates coming from an era when every house had a black and white TV somewhere, it came down to Pro Bowls and All-Team awards to qualify. Bob Young was a Pro-Bowler twice in ‘78 & ’79; Dobbler may have had only one more but he had them all when the Cards were a good team and that gave the edge to Dobbler. Besides, if we didn’t put him in he would have killed Andrew. ;-)
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by Hawkwind on Apr 10, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Andrew602 on Apr 10, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOB YOUNG WAS A GUARD!!
ARE YOU ALL FANS OF THE BIG RED? WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS BAD INFORMATION? DID THIS MAGAZINE OR BOOK ALSO MENTION THAT DIERDORF PLAYED CENTER HIS LAST TWO SEASONS! BOB YOUNG PLAYED GUARD! HE MAY HAVE FILLED IN AT TACKLE BUT HE PLAYED GUARD AND HE DIDN’T MAKE THE PRO BOWL AS A TACKLE! THE NUMBER OF PRO BOWLS ARE NOT THE ONLY INDICATOR OF WHO WAS TRULY GOOD OR GREAT! THE GREAT RANDY WHITE ONCE MENTIONED THAT BOB YOUNG WAS THE TOUGHEST GUY HE EVER FACED! NOW YOU DON’T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME BUT RANDY WHITE IS ONE OF THE VERY BEST EVER AND I WILL GO BY WHAT HE SAYS OVER WHAT ANYONE WHO HAS NEVER PLAYED THE GAME BEFORE! IF YOU EVER WATCH ANY FOOTAGE OF THE CARDINALS FROM THAT ERA, TAKE NOTICE WHERE BOB YOUNG IS DURING PASSING AND RUNNING PLAYS AND IT’S USUALLY ON TOP OF HIS OPPONENT WHILE HE IS ON THE GROUND! LOOK WHERE DOBLER WAS ON PASSING PLAYS, CONSISTANTLY DRIVEN TO THE BACKFIELD BY LARGER GUYS AND IF YOU NOTICE WHEN JIM OTIS OR STEVE JONES RAN FOR TD’S IT WAS BEHIND YOUNG! DOBLERS TRUE ASSET WAS LEADING THE SWEEPS AND QUICK TRAPS! THAT’S IT! HE GOT BY ON REPUTATION! THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY HE WAS LET GO! NEED MORE PROOF? CHECK OUT THE SAINTS RUSHING NUMBERS BEFORE AND AFTER HE WAS THERE! CHUCK MUNCIE AND GEORGE ROGERS WEREN’T CHOPPED LIVER!
by lifelongcardfan on Apr 23, 2009 1:22 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ALSO!!
BEHIND STEVE BARTKOWSKI ,MIKE VICK IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THEIR HISTORY!! TO DIMINISH WHAT SHARPE DID ON THE FIELD BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID OFF THE FIELD IS RIDICULOUS!
by lifelongcardfan on Apr 23, 2009 1:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs


















