Arizona Cardinals News: The Anquan Boldin Trade Rumors Simply Won't Die
by Hawkwind on May 14, 2009 7:52 AM MDT
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PrintMaybe it's just a fact that Drew Rosenhaus is a true genius or maybe the media is just bored during football's boring summer but it seems pretty clear that the Arizona Cardinals, and us fans, are going to have to live with the Anquan Boldin trade rumors for a while. Last week, Rosenhaus used Twitter to stir up the trade talk again, but this week it's opposing teams who are bringing up Boldin's name. We here at ROTB emphatically stated that if Boldin had not been traded by the end of the first round of the draft, he'd be a Cardinal for the 2009 season, but apparently the rest of the nation didn't get the message. While neither of these new reports seems to shed any light on the future, they're still stroking the fire and keeping Boldin and his agent in the limelight. Here are two lastest reports:
- The first report is out of Philly and isn't really anything more than a confirmation from Andy Reid that the Eagles inquired about Boldin's avaliability. The Eagles concluded that the price was too high and he suggested that the asking price was a first, third and fifth round pick. When you combine the picks and Boldin's desire for a new contract, the price was just too high. He also hinted that maybe the Cardinals just didn't really want to trade Boldin. For what it's worth, Mike Sando has an interesting story breaking down what the Cardinals might have recieved out of those picks by looking back at the players selected in the last eight years at those projected slots (spoiler alert: It's a very underwhelming list).
- The second report is out of Miami where "one source close to the situation" tells a Miami paper that the Dolphins are still "monitoring" the Boldin situation (so I guess Parcell's has subscribed to Rosenhaus' tweets). According to the source, the Dolphins realize that there are problems with trading for him considering that you've got to compensate the Cardinals and Boldin, but "Parcells thinks he a monster!" Regardless of the price though the Dolphins haven't completely dismissed the idea.
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While I highly doubt that either of these stories serve any purpose other than to give board writers something to fill their columns (thanks by the way), they do at least keep Boldin's name on the tip of everyone's tongue. The Philly story doesn't really serve any purpose other than to prove that the Cardinals had no intention of just giving Boldin away (applaud the organization). The report out of Miami is hard to swallow for one main reason, Bill Parcells doesn't trade away him draft picks. In the end these are almost certainly nothing but talk but people are still talking. Are you buying any of this and how sick are you of hearing Boldin trade rumors? How certain are you that Boldin will be in Arizona for the entire 2009 season?
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I like that, passifier vs. pacifier
Instead of a faux nipple it’s a little rubber football to suck on. I smell a patent pending!
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
Actually I'm just a bad speller
and not a recent father such as yourself. Good idea though.
by AJ BirdWatcher on May 14, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Props to the Cards for not giving Q up for cheap
We should make him play for us this last year and trade him next off season before the draft!
Championship!
I wasn't aware that Boldin was even looking for a trade.....
Oh wait, that’s all the media has talked about for months.
I do like Andy Reid’s comments:
"Let’s just say it was a one and a three and a five, a Roy Williams deal," Reid told WIP radio. "That’s a lot of picks and then you have to pay the guy $10 million. You’re getting hit on both sides. … That’s probably what backed people off."
From Darren Urban’s blog.
The receiving team truly is putting a lot into Boldin if he did go for that, and then receive the contract that he wants.
couple all of that with
getting another Rosenhaus player who will probably groan a year or 2 into the next contract.
Cardinal's
management needs to put this story to rest. Either Boldin is on the team or not on the team. They need to step forward and put the answer out to whether or not they are trading him or making him play to the contract he signed. It is a shame they are not doing more to stop all of this.
The more you hear drew talk....
The more desperate he and his client are getting. I think the Cards are handling it flawlessly. They listened to offers for him at the draft. They have the best #2 wide reciever in the league under contract for two more years for cheap. The Cardinals have all the leverage. I’m glad they are handling it this way. It shows that they won’t cave to a whiner.
by CardsDefense on May 14, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Graves Effectively Did state the franchise’s plans for Boldin. It’s the activities of Boldin’s agent that continually clouds that statement, not the team itself.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
Not buying it
If the Eagles and Dolphins didn’t make a trade for him yet I don’t see what is going to change before training camp that will make it happen. I wonder if Reid is really quoting what the offer was, or just saying that to shut the Eagles faithful up by pointing out that the scenario he proposed would set them back as opposed to putting them ahead.
The one thing that has been consistent throughout this lingering soap opera is what Hawkwind pointed out, that Graves has said all along that his first priority is to get him resigned to a new deal but it won’t happen anytime soon. They’ll try to extend Wilson and Dansby first, and then move on to Boldin. I wish Rosenhaus and the national media would get that through their rock hard skulls because, yes, I’m tired of hearing about it. I used to get excited when ESPN had anything related to the Cardinals on it, now I just blow it off as another Boldin rumor and usually miss it.
Aquan Boldin Trade Rumors
I absolutely love all this discussion about Boldin moving on to a new team. It tell us two things specifically about the Cards as a ORGANIZATION.
1. The FO likes the idea of Boldin being the whipping boy in this process. More attention
on him and less attention on the Front Officie incompotence.
2. Drew Rosenhuas is doing what he is being paid to do. Which is to keep his clients
name on the minds of teams that need a top WR to get them over the top and have
the cap space to accommadate the potential demands of a Market Value Contract.
Long Beach does have a point with respect to the Eagles and the vast majority of the other teams in this league. If, and I DO say if, the ultimat goal is to Win the Superbowl then I contend that Boldin should have moved the minute Graves announced Boldin was “available”. I disagree with a lot of the fan base and writers that beleive Boldin still being a Cardinal reflects poorly on him. Quite the contrary, I think it reflects poorly on the teams that “inquired” about Boldin . A lot of this is PR movement to appease their respective fan base. I think the vast majority of the owners are not genuinely interested in winning, just the appearance of winning. Six different NFL Clubs have the cap space to pay Boldin. Boldin in addition to being a top flight talent has also be a high character guy in the locker room. Who couldn’t use that?
This story will continue to grow as long the incompotent FO of the Cards handles it the way it has. I still beleive Boldin will be traded. Where? Baltimore. And that would make me very happy.
I like him going to Baltimore as well.
Love their defense first/ball control mentality, and he would fit that spot well. Most importantly though, it would help another AFCN team knock off the Steelers from their pedestal.
by AJ BirdWatcher on May 15, 2009 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't understand how the Cardinals Front office has been 'incompotent ' in this situation
I know there are countless ways they’ve mishandled things in the past but if you put the Boldin situation in a vacuum and look solely at it, I don’t understand what they’ve done wrong.
The Cards Front Office
Gentlemen , when I called the Cards FO incompotent, it is with respect to all things Arizona Cardinals not one thing in paticular. But, if we must go there then lest go there! This whole charade of we going to trade Boldin, we’re not trading Boldin becuase we’re working towards a long term extension after we get our other ‘’core players" signed is a buche of garbage. The 41 million in cap space that was botched during the fre-agency period demonstrates incompotence and no interest in bargaining in good faith. If the intent is not to move Boldin then come out and say it. If it’s to sign him then sign the guy . But don’t keep screwing around and jerking the media/fan base around. Get something done one way or the other already.
By sqaundering the above mentioned cap space on primarily two players, Warner and Dansby the FO essentialy caused an avalanche of problems. The signing priority should have been Wilson, Warner and then Dansby in that order. Wilson is the foundation on which the current Cards success is built upon along with Boldin is it not? I say Wilson should have been paid a long time ago. By signig Wilson a huge positive message could have been sent thru the lockeroom. Alas, that window has past. Dansby does’nt want to be a life long Cardinal. He has stated as much already. Yet he eats up nearly 10 Million in cap space.
Why was then FO in such a hurry to overpay Warner when there was little to no market for Waner services among the other teams in the league? The Cards essentially bid AGAISNT themselves. No other team wanted Waner for the kind of jack he got from the Cards. I would have offered Warner 10-11 Million in 2009 and 4 Million with a roster bonus of 2 Million in 2010 if he showed up for the 2010 season. The club would be protected and money would be there to sign core players and re-do contracts if the club chose to. Huge mistakes are made constantly.
The truly great FO types in this league don’t make the mistake of overpaying a player that close to the end of their career. Can you say Pittsburgh Steelers?
we must just see the entire situation much differently
- trading or not trading Q: I don’t think I’ve ever heard the front office come out and say that they’re not trading Q, do you have a link to that? Their contention has always been that they were listening to offers but that he was also a guy that they wanted to keep. I can understand being upset that a some kind of trade wasn’t reached but I’m glad that the front office didn’t just give in and trade him for the sake of getting him out of here. They wanted an equal return and there has never been any indication that they were offered anything close. Are you saying that we should have traded him to the Bears for the second round pick because that’s the best offer they received?
- 41 million in cap space: Mike Sando pointed out shortly after the season that the $41 million in cap space was a deceiving number b/c of all the free agents that we had. He compared our ‘cap space’ to every other NFC West team based on the number of free agents and an estimated signing amount and the Cardinals number was lowered to about $20 million in “useable” cap room. As far as Dansby goes, I think tagging him was the only way that they were going to keep him for this season. If you’re ok with letting him go and having Ali Highsmith or a rookie start in his spot, then you’ve got more faith in Ali than I do. When you consider that they upgraded the corner back position and retained every free agent that they wanted to keep, I think they used the cap room pretty well.
- Wilson’s contract: In reality Wilson’s contract has nothing to do with the avaliable cap room. They could just as easily sign him to a contract that kicks in after the season (ie. an extension vs. new contract). It happens all the time and when the player knows that they’re getting that bonus money, what’s the difference.
- Offer to Warner: I personally don’t think Warner would have signed that deal but obviously I have no way to prove that he wouldn’t have. I’ll just say that he was adamant about being protected in the second year of the deal and that offer doesn’t do that. On this count we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
Kent Somers just posted the other offer the Cards received for Boldin
According to him the Eagles offered Sheldon Brown (who also wants a new contract) and a third round pick.
+ 1
Cards front office hasn’t been perfect, but they have done alot more right than wrong this off season. They are handling the Boldin situation perfectly. We need Dansby in 09-10 and Taggin him was the only way to keep him here ( he will be long gone after this coming season.) I have faith that they will take care of A dub sooner rather than later. They had to spend big money to keep Kurt here. ( If they would have resigned him last season before he made the pro bowl it would have been for much less.)
So overall they are doing everything right to keep the “core” of this team in tact.
You guys need to relax. By next october all this will be forgotten and the Cards will be well on their way back to the playoffs.
by CardsDefense on May 15, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Lets Be Realistic
Finally, someone gets it. Cardsdefense states in the above post Warner could have been sign cheaper during the the 08 season. I beleive he is saying the same thing I have been saying all along. Some of the current issues could have been averted. Thank you for supporting my position. Ha ha ha.
Defense you’ve got more trust in the FO than I do. A-dub should have been paid. It’s always about the money boys. All about the Jack.
And did you say playoffs! You’re talking about playoffs! Playoffs! WITHOUT BOLDIN. You’re kidding right. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. The NFC West is a weak division. Can the Cards win every game in the division again? Will everybody stay healthy again for the majority of the season as last year. I’d like to see it but, I’m not so sure.
No I was talking playoffs with Boldin...
Why wouldn’t we have Boldin next year? If we didn’t trade him before the draft, then he certainly isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. HE IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2 MORE YEARS. He can whine all he wants, but he will be suited up and ready to go by the mandatory camps!
by CardsDefense on May 15, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions
A return to the playoffs
will most likely be due to establishing a decent running game and consistency on defence. They can do that with or without Boldin.
by AJ BirdWatcher on May 16, 2009 6:47 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree.....
but if Boldin lines up opposite of Fitz the opposing defense will not have 8 players in the box very often. That is where Timmy and Beanie come in!
Breaston will not warrant double coverage nearly as often as Boldin
by CardsDefense on May 18, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
We can argue about whether any team would actually double Fitz and Q (for the record that sounds like a terrible defense), but doubling guys won’t keep defenders out of the box. Breaston’s ability to get vertical will force a defense to keep a safety deep, thus ensuring that he’s not a factor in the running game. Double Boldin or not, but his style of play doesn’t keep defenders out of the box.
They do have Boldin signed MORON!
For two more years to be exact. You talk about signing your core, the Cards would never had even seen a Super Bowl had Warner not been the QB. You need a solid dose of Kaopectate with that diareah you have been spewing on here.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
At least he got rid of the pointless quotes.
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Trade Q, but don't give him away
“The Cowboys will give up a first-round pick in 2009, plus a third- and sixth-rounder that year for Williams and a seventh-round pick in ’10.”
If the Cowboys were willing to give up a 1,3 and 6 plus a 7 on 2010 for Roy Williams, the price for Boldin should be higher that that. Boldin is only a #2 because of who lines up on the other side of the football from him. Larry makes every other WR a #2. Boldin is a #1 on nearly every other team.
The Cards are listening to offers because of Boldin’s whining and the negative locker room impact he might have and most importantly, because the Cards have talent at WR behind Boldin. The Cards have proven they can win without Boldin. Doucet and Urban will get better too.
Boldin whined once and was given a new contract. IMO, he needs to play out this one like a man. It’s not like he’s getting minimum NFL wage to play.
Boldin Trade
Boldin will not be a Cardinal in 2009. He will not get a re-worked contract and that will be the rub. I just do not think he will be as professional in 2009 as he was in 2008. He will sit and then the Cards will move him outta there.
Built in excuses are already in place for denying the potential contract negotiation to take place. No salary cap space. Hell, I wouldn’t be suprise if Wilson doesn’t get his deal done. Time will tell all of us a lot.
Why is anyone arguing with 81?
He clearly is dilussional and confrontational. He or she (because it hasn’t been specified) is only out to spark controversy. Noone in their right mind would actually believe the stuff 81 is actually writing. The Falcons last year was abnormal. How many teams can win with a new QB and RB in the same season? If we had let Kurt go, Matt would have been the #1. Although he is not a “new” guy, he can not be expected to have the same passing success as Kurt. And with Edge gone, we would having a new RB also. Not a good sign. With Matt in charge, we would no doubt be looking to be a more run oriented team and how would that mesh with a new RB?
no perhaps he/she hears voices
He/she also seems to get information from imaginary sources. Where would anyone get the idea that Boldin wouldn’t be a Cardinal in 2009? If they couldn’t move him before the draft they certainly wouldn’t move him afterwards for future draft picks. The Cards have the talent to win now!
by CardsDefense on May 18, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
If it were he's an even bigger douche than before...
and we should definitely trade him.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
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