The 2009 Arizona Cardinals Offensive Line
Over the last couple of decades, the Arizona Cardinals have rarely had a great offensive line. And for few years prior to '08, it's been a large area for concern. Things changed in 2008 though, as the Cardinals offensive line gelled for a second straight season. They were also fortunate enough to not receive many injuries or miss any games. There has been some speculation however, as to whether or not the Cardinals offensive line should be shuffled. Former first round pick Levi Brown struggled at times throughout the season, and other tackle Mike Gandy played poorly in the Super Bowl. Their starting center was an undrafted free agent. Deuce Lutui seemed to commit a penalty or bonehead play in every game till he cleaned up his ways. It also doesn't help their case that the running game finished last in the league in '08. As you can see from the depth chart, the most obvious note is the return of the starting five. You can also see that depth has improved after the draft as the Cardinals have some solid lineman even at the 3rd string unit. There are some lineman that have the potential to be inserted into the starting line up as well. Lets take a look at the offensive line.
| Warner | 2007 | 2008 |
| QB Rate | 89.8 | 96.9 |
| Comp % | 62.3 | 67.1 |
| TDs | 27 | 30 |
| INTs | 17 | 14 |
| Yards | 3417 | 4583 |
Shuffling the Offensive Line:
There have been many opinions thrown around, especially here at ROTB as to whether or not the Cardinals should adjust the offensive line. This all started stemming after the Super Bowl. Many wondered if the Cardinals should have taken center, Alex Mack out of Cal, in the 1st round of the draft, which we broke down here and here. Others were frustrated with Mike Gandy's performance in the Super Bowl, as he was manhandled by James Harrison. Obviously a center wasn't drafted and there wasn't a significant pick up in free agency to replace Gandy. But that still doesn't stop the shuffle talk. One of the most common structures that I have seen was moving Levi Brown to guard. But how would this affect the rest of the line? Brown would likely take Wells place, as Lutui found his grove in the second half of the season. Putting Brown at guard would essentially help him utilize his skills in the running game, and avoid his weakness in pass protection. That move however, would leave a hole at tackle that would be tough to replace. Gandy could slide over to right tackle, and Wells could take the left tackle position. Wells has experience at tackle, but can he handle the speed of edge rushers? Another scenario out there is taking Gandy completely out of the equation, and inserting Hermon Johnson, Brandon Keith, or Elliot Vallejo. Johnson and Keith are massive lineman that could definitely improve the rushing game, but they're still young, overweight to play tackle, and may not have the speed for some defenses. Vallejo is also young but many want to see how he would handle the pressure of starting. Could we see this line up one day?
The Cardinals line will surely develop even more in '09 and we should see that improvement in their play. The coaching staff had enough confidence in Sendlein to keep him as our starting center, so we may see an improved Lyle as well this year. Although Brown struggled at times last year, he was still young and developing, and we can only hope that he has improved his technique. Wells and Lutui seem to be locks at guard as Wells is always consistent, and Lutui seemed to change his bonehead ways in the middle of last year. The final member and the dark horse of the line, Mike Gandy, showed at times last year that he was a solid tackle. If he's able to improve against speed rushers, then we may see fewer sacks given up by him. After looking at the line, there are certainly more pieces in the mix and a lot better depth then ever before. It seems as though you could insert any of the young players but how much of an improvement would it be over the current starters? Should the Cardinals continue adding pieces to the line or shuffling anybody around? What would your line up be if you shuffled the line?
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Keep it as is, however...
The one thing I never hear mentioned when assessing Gandy’s performance last year is how unbalanced our attack was. LT is a hard enough position to play, and when the offense you run is geared towards the pass the majority of the time it doesn’t do a thing to keep the defense off-balance, so the opposition can just pin their ears back without even having to factor in the run game. When we balanced out the offense against Atlanta and Carolina suddenly Gandy looked very effective against guys like Abraham and Peppers.
The other thing that is highly unlikely to happen is for all five starters to stay healthy all year long, so I expect some line shuffling this year. I think the one starter who should be looking over his shoulder a bit is Lutui. If Brandon Keith has a good training camp I could see him in at RG, otherwise to start the season I see us going with the status quo. At some point I think Levi Brown could get moved to LT (depending on who is at QB) because you generally don’t pay a guy the kind of money he’ll get to play guard or the weakside tackle position.
One thing for sure, Grimm has enough able bodies around to create the kind of competition he likes. Should be an interesting camp this year.
by Long Beach on May 16, 2009 2:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
The line played great last year.
Levi will continue to improve, I think he should stay as the right tackle for now. Gandy isn’t given enough respect for what he has done. Especially for how much he is paid. He has got to be among the lowest paid starting Left tackles. The Starting Tackles and Center should not change in 2009!
Deuce has been a huge liability with penalties. He cleaned up his act a little but if anyone should be challenged for a starting spot it should be him. Wells is good, if he can improve his run blocking then he should remain an unquestioned starter.
Overall I believe we are solid at Tackle and Center. Some healthy competition should take place at guard. It is exciting to see more depth provided by young guys with so much potential. Another year with Russ Grim should have the entire line playing at a higher level.
by CardsDefense on May 18, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now $6 million may be "cheap" by Boldin's standard but...
…Mike Gandy is anything but cheap as the Cards’ LT.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on May 18, 2009 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's more than i thought, but still a good value
if he keeps Kurt on his feet like he did last year
by CardsDefense on May 18, 2009 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never understood the mentality behind
not playing a guy in a certain position because of the money you’re paying him. If the guy excels at one position over the other, why would money even be a factor? That’s the kind of mentality that produced the bust Leonard Davis because Dennis Green played him at LT because of what they were paying him, only for him to leave and flourish and make a pro bowl in Dallas as a guard. If a guy opens up the run at one position and doesn’t at another why should money matter am I right? Correct me if I’m missing something in my logic please.
by Fitz Jizzle on May 16, 2009 5:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Value
Your logic is fine, the only problem with paying a guy top 5 money to play a position other than LT (on the offensive line) is that you can get someone else to do it for far less. Using Leonard Davis as an example, instead of continuing to overpay him to play guard we saved money by letting him go, and made it to the Super Bowl with Wells and Lutui. I don’t follow salaries that close but I’m guessing between the two of them that they made less than Davis would have in their combined salaries.
by Long Beach on May 17, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
CHANGE THA GAME....
FUK IT TRY SUMTHIN NEW….
AZTECA SUN GOD
by AZTECA SUN GOD 602 on May 16, 2009 7:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
AZTECA
either learn to make a somewhat educated post or dont say anything at all. I am positive you have already used that same line (and spelling) before so please no more cutting and pasting. If you are drunk get some help, if you are stupid go back to school, and if you just plain lack the vocabulary skills to put something together go read a pop up book.
Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
by sc464 on May 17, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIxing What Ain't Broke...
During most off-seasons (given our typically rotten W & L record) I’m crying for Cardinal Management to make wholesale changes to upgrade key roster holes. Draft this one. Cut that one. Pick up a bunch of high-profile free agents.
This off-season is different. We have empiracle evidence that – with the current guys we’ve got on our offensive line – we can come within a couple of minutes of winning the Super Bowl.
This has converted me into a flaming Reactionary. Don’t make any radical changes! Don’t do anything dumb! Just take what we have and tweak the roster to make us even better than we were a year ago.
Chemistry on the offensive line can be pretty fragile – while physical talent and experience are vital components, playing together as a unit may be even more important to the success of most O-lines. Make one change, and you threaten to upset the chemistry. Make 2, 3, 4 or more changes and you’re likely to have a zoo up front.
But if you want to play musical chairs on the O-line, consider the following: I agree that (1) Deuce makes too many mental mistakes, (2) Levi Brown needs to become more consistent, (3) Gandy might be overmatched at times as our LT, (4) Wells leaves something to be desired as a run blocker and (5) Sendlein lacks sufficient “sand in the proverbial pants.”
There may be some advantages to moving some of these guys to new positions. For example, Wells may have the most nimble feet of any starter and might be better suited to play outside at LT. Or, if not Reggie, maybe the time is ripe to move Levi over from RT to LT.
The expected development of Brandon Keith (said to have neat feet) could put him in a position to push Gandy as well.
Should rookie Herman Johnson (who certainly has the size and pure athleticism to become dominant) knock everybody’s socks off in the OTA’s and Camp, he might be a logical replacement for Levi at RT (should Levi be switched).
Both Lutui and L Brown are young. They and their coaching staff will have to face up to the question of whether (a) their mental errors and/or inconsistent play are functions of “youth” (and therefore can be coached out of them) or (b) part of their DNA (giving us the two choices of “living with it” or replacing them). Should it be the latter, having Brandon Keith, Elton Brown and the rookies Johnson and Canfield may give Russ G & Co. additional flexibility.
At center, Sendlein may not be prototypical in some physical respects, but right now he’s better than anyone else we’ve got. It’s said that Reggie Wells is our emergency backup center and Canfield has indicated a willingness to learn the position, but both those options (plus our backups like Raeola, Peters or Claxton) present an iffy depth situation at the position that will need to be cleared up during the offseason.
Keep one thing in mind, however: If you shift one guy to a different position, you are actually changing two positions/not just one.
Be careful what you wish for.
CHICKEN LITTLE WAS RIGHT!
by JJeff88 on May 17, 2009 8:35 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'M BACK!
After a grueling 2 weeks of moving and remodeling I am back to a normal life & here on ROtB. I think that I would keep the line the same FOR NOW. I definitely want to see a lot of playing time from Keith, Vallejo, and Johnson in pre-season though to see what can happen. Also in games we are blowing someone out I want the second string in there to see what they look like in real game time.
Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
by sc464 on May 17, 2009 7:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Competition
I love the drafting of Herman Johnson, but the Cardinals need to remember the mistakes of Leonard Davis. Switching Davis from one Tackle spot to another never helped him and the year he moves to Dallas and they leave him at Guard he makes the Pro Bowl.
I trust Coach Grimm, but I would leave Johnson at G and let him help the inside run game and Center Lyle Sendlein.
The Cards have been lucky for the past two years in avoiding the injury bug on the OL but luck can and will run out. I’m glad they improved their depth with Johnson and Canfield cause competition only makes people better.
by ArizHusker on May 17, 2009 7:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome to ROTB
good comparison between Big Herm and just plain Big.
by Bezekira on May 21, 2009 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlton Medder ???
Any news on this guy and why was he left off of the article ??
by ArizHusker on May 17, 2009 7:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd shuffle by adding Brandon Pearce to the mix
That man is a beast, signed as a free agent out of Memphis. If they can develop him some, he’ll be solid for years.
by brian7 on May 21, 2009 7:15 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome to ROTB
Pearce certainly sounds like an interesting prospect. Can we assume that you’ve seen him play? How would you describe his game?
by Bezekira on May 21, 2009 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs



















