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Arizona Cardinals News: Anquan Boldin Speaks to Media

After showing up at Arizona Cardinals mini-camp with an 'injury' that the team was unaware of, getting an MRI and not participating in practice, Anquan Boldin got his chance to address the media. There weren't any orchestrated blowouts or demands but Boldin got his point across none the less. He's not happy, he's not sure the Cardinals really tried to trade him and he might not report to camp. None of that is really ground breaking or news worthy, but really just sign that we're in for another eventful summer.  

One thing seems clear, after tomorrow we won't see Boldin until the team reports to Flagstaff for training camp (if he shows up on time). It would have to be classified as a major surprise if he made an appearence at any of the team's OTA's over the next couple of months. Ken Whisenhunt and the rest of the front office continue to say that Boldin is part of the long term plans but his contract issues will be resolved after Karlos Dansby and Adrian Wilson.

For what it's worth, here's what Darren Urban and Kent Somers had to say about their exchanges with Boldin.

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BOLDIN & DOCKETT

YO DUDES, I’m NEW, but I’m ticked….THEY SHOULD CUT “BRITTLE BOLDIN” so he can play for “minimum” on some other team, and Darnell Dockett may need to be cut to. Nothing worse than whining millionaires, who think they’re worth more than they are. Ask Edgerrin James who begged for a trade, and now seems seemingly retired…I’m so fed up with BOLDIN and DOCKETT Rocking the Red Bird Boat, that If I’m the coach, I cut them, and give them a ‘counter offer,’ when no one comes up with any dough. Face it, BOLDIN goes down some time during every year for 3 to 6 weeks, and Fitz is an Iron Man, so is Breaston….Dockett is Dockett, a decent linebacker, but All Pro, I don’t think so…To me, being a millionaire is a gift not a given, and if Boldin and his agent shut up along with Dockett, Cards management might automatically give them a raise, but when they BOTH BECOME HUSE DISTRACTIONS, and diversions to the TEAM ETHIC of Cardinal Football, makes me want to puke..Sorry Q, but this is boring. YOU NEED TO GO ON THE TUBE and drop your trade requests and need for GREED, and Play some ball without injury. SHOW ME ONE YEAR HEALTHY and I GIVE YOU THE RAISE, just one year…I’m out..
Good to see you all
CARDSNFCCHAMPS

by CARDSNFCCHAMPS on May 2, 2009 3:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Welcome to RotB...

and just a few clarications, Docket is a DE/DT not a LB. Also, I don’t think we could afford the cap hit if we let them go, but your rant is well understood and appreciated. By the way, besides complaining about their contracts and having the same evil agent, what do Q and Dockett have in common? They both went to that cheating school FSUcks. I hope we don’t have this same issue out of McFadden or our UDFA Michael Ray-Garvin.

by hevchv on May 2, 2009 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

As long as you say "no offense" you can say whatever you want right?

“no offense” DUDE, but that was one of the dumbest things I have ever heard come out of anyones butt. Yeah we are all ticked but you dont just give people what they want because they are whinning which is essential what you would be doing by releasing them & there would be a lot of teams willing to pony up to pay the 2 of them.

Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.

by sc464 on May 3, 2009 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Posted this earlier in reply to a totally unrelated thread (kind of.. totally unrelated thread)

Also, to the above poster, isn’t Dockett a DT who has played relatively well the past two years and has been a Card for life, just like Boldin? Why so much hate, you guys go to one SB, these two players being a large part of it, play their asses off, and want to get paid much like any other player would want, and you totally turn your back on them in favor of management… you are a shitty fan sir. As for Boldin missing 3-6 games/year, can’t believe you made that comment after watching him take that hit last year, hold onto the balls, and come back from the surgery/injury fast as fuck playing through ridiculous pain. Anyone with that playing style is going to be an injury risk, but it’s his playing style that makes him such an effective player.

Here’s original point.

 AZ doesn’t want to move Boldin period. Hence why Boldin is so goddamn frustrated.

AZ has never wanted to trade Boldin. The Bidwell’s will simply avoid the situation entirely, telling the media they would be happy to keep him. But, yea, apparently he’s on the trading block. (WTF does that mean anyway, of course the AZ Cardinals are happy to keep a top 5-10 receiver who compliments Fitz perfectly, and is a total gamer at a bargain contract… that’s not the problem, the problem is Boldin wants the fuck out, and is tired of, in his perspective, incompetent management, and being underpaid.) All the while a lot of the media is trying to paint Boldin out to be a cancer/TO… which lowers his market value in a trade which the cards don’t so much care about, but also in contract negotiations, which they very much care about.

I’d have to agree w/ Boldin on incompetent management. You have a great player in the prime of his career (28 going on 29), has shown he can be a dominant #1 receiver (rookie year) w/o fitz, and you have several WR needy teams heavily under the cap to get a new deal done.
Cleveland Browns: $20.27 million
Chicago Bears: $20.96 million
Kansas City Chiefs: $32.3 million
Philadelphia Eagles: $37.44 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $35.54 million
Tennessee Titans: $13.05 million

Still no deal.

There are also multiple GMs who said they had no luck working out a deal/AZ never even responded/interested in moving Boldin.

 Here’s what Jeff Fischer (Titans) said after the draft.

"Let me clarify things,‘’ Fisher said. "There was a lot of speculation, a lot of reports (Friday) evening. We never at any time made an offer to the Arizona Cardinals. We left several messages with them (Friday) night but they never returned our calls. We didn’t get in touch with them until before the draft today, and they said that they weren’t interested in moving him.’’

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090426/SPORTS01/90426038C5

The Bidwell’s don’t have cell phones apparently.

Similarly…

Jerry Angelo admitted his interest to the reporters gathered at Halas Hall Saturday night. This is courtesy of ESPN 1000’s Jason Belenke, who was stationed at the Bears facility:

"We did have conversations with Arizona, but nothing was able to get resolved," said Angelo.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog?post=4101481&name=dickerson

Lastly, I think you guys were 41 (?) M$ under the cap before free agency… No offense, because you guys have a ridiculously fun to watch team, on both defense/offense, and have two of the most talented/complimentary WRs… possibly since Carter/Moss. Pony up and pay the man and increase your window another year or two with Warner who has at best 1-2 years left in him. But this is (imo) not Boldin’s fault, it’s just really really bad management from a historically awful, awful, awfully run team.

IMO it all just points to AZ management ignoring the problem hoping it will go away while going through the motions and making Boldin look like a prick.

Last point, if you were the very best in the world in a ridiculously profitable business (owners make money :D) wouldn’t you want to be paid competitively?

by Doozer on May 2, 2009 6:20 PM MDT reply actions  

Whiz said

In an interview on the radio Coach Wiz said the Cards got offers,just not any worth listening too.The team as well as the coach put a high value on Q,and if it is not met …then the team should not trade him.The Cards as well as the fans are tired of great players walking away,or being traded away and having great careers somewhere else.We need to be on the winning side of a trade for once.Its funny how Q or his agent havent offered to give back the multi-million dollar bonus he got a couple of years ago.Maybe if he gave back the money he got they would consider renegotiating with him.Just a thought.

by RowdyReno on May 3, 2009 12:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with Doozer

CardsNFCChamps has no idea what he’s talking about. If you’ve ever watched Dockett and Boldin play, you know those are two high quality pro-bowlers that anyone would love to have on their football teams. Dockett and Boldin never “take plays off” and without Dockett our pass-rush would be non-existant.

by Fitz Jizzle on May 3, 2009 12:03 AM MDT reply actions  

Your on the pipe... Dockett takes plays off all season.

That’s his major knock. He won’t play %100 unless he’s on Monday night football or a national stage.

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on May 4, 2009 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

I completely agree. He gets up for big games which is great but he also ‘plays down’ to lesser competition. How he can totally dominate some games (Dallas last year or the SB) and be completely invisible in others is maddening.

If he can ever be consistent for an entire season, he’d be the best DL in the game.

by Bezekira on May 4, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

anquan boldin

you know i am tired of all you wanna be cardinals fans talking about crap that you dont know about Anquan bolding is the best by far at running middle routes no one in the nfl comes close to his skills.

 I thinke the arizona cardinals need anquan boldin there is no arizona cardinals without boldin. he brings so much saport to the team that he is the glue the smart thing to do is to resign him at the cost of karlos dansby. he is no big part of the team yea maybe he had some good speaches and a couple good tackles but hey hes enjry prone. adrian wilson is the backbone of the cardinals defence he is the only true vetren of the arizona cardinals. boldin needs to be resigned thats the simple fact they can replace karlos but not a-dub and anquan boldin yea boldin is being a baby but you know its now fair that fitz gets a good contract, boldin needs one to without him there is no arizona cardinals simple as that.

   And also i think it was a very good idea to let edge go he is to old and needs a better team to sign with timmy hightower is the face of the cardinals running game him and beanie wells are going to make a name for the cardinals running game in 2009! thats a fact iv’e been a cardinals fan since i can remeber i bleed red and white, yea it hurt to lose the superbowl but you know we made a name for are selves, not as a team that belongs in the garbage we deserve to be recognized as an elite team in 2009 these so called experts in “yahoo sports” dont know anything! there just there to talk smack!, the arizona cardinals are going to be an elite team in 2009!

   i’ll see you true arizona cardinals fans in training camp in flagstaff!!!

ARIZONA CARDINALS 2009 NFC CHAMPS!!!!!!!

by azcards_666 on May 3, 2009 5:59 AM MDT reply actions  

Cards played at an elite level when it counted last season

Yet none of us could have seen that playoff run actually happening considering the way the team finished the regular season. Timing is everything in the playoffs but coaching and execution consistency is the bread and butter of the regular season. The coaching is there more than it has ever been but the consistency is still lacking; the Cards will not get elite perception until they can win on the road regularly and have more bite on defense and balanced performance on offense. The team is building towards those goals with the draft and maintaining much of the ’08 roster and keeping Boldin only enhances their chances for the ’09 season.

As for “wanna be” Cardinals fans, that in itself is more an indication of the Cardinals approaching an “elite” status. Before last season there were about two dozen folks that made it clear they “wanted to be” Cardinals fans. Since that improbable playoff run there be scores of “new” Cardinals fans who have been welcomed here at RotB. Many share similar opinions with others and many do not; regardless, everyone’s opinion is simply that and unless Ken Whisenhunt is ghost-writing under the moniker of “Bezekira” or some other username that makes the lot of us “so called experts”. But it certainly qualifies every single one of us as “fans”. Thank Blog for that.

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on May 3, 2009 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

When RotB first started...

….there were 10 or 12 of us (give or take a few) who were very diehard with their fandom. To me having trolls is kind of fun because it means the Cards have arrived to a certain degree. I tend not to read their posts and it’s usually pretty easy to tell who they are as they share a common quality in their poor grammar and punctuation. Well, those qualities and anyone who ends every comment with “Pittsburgh West.”

When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again.
-Barney Stinson

by Red Reign on May 3, 2009 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Anquan Boldin

Have been a Cards fan for over 25 years . For the life of me I can’t understand why so many Cards fans are hating on " Q " for wanting to get paid while never take a look how management has handle this situation. The Bidwill’s have never been great owners or paid the players well historically. The Boldin on the trading block talk was just that – talk. They were never seriously entertaining offers for Boldin. Graves and Whisenhunt lied when they told the media " there was little interest in " Q’s " services . It was design to weaken Boldin locally and nationally and also increase the clubs leverage in future negotiations . It’s clear they desire is to weaken Boldin as much as possible so that if this situation becomes more untenable than is already is he’ll be damanged goods where he lands . Graves and the Bidwill’s are bottom feeders. Boldin deserves to given a contract consistent with his production on the field. Traslation if he’s a top ten reciever in the league then he should be paid as such. As great as Fitz is he is not superior to Boldin in talent and skill set to the tune of 8 million a year. Pay Boldin or move Boldin to a franchise not interested in alienating their great players the way Cards management has done over last 25 years . I prefer a trade at this point as I don’t trust Cards management anymore. If Graves was a better GM, perhaps the Cards would not be in this situation. The current Fitzgerald contract was caused because of the poor negotiation skills of Graves. Instead of putting voidable years on the back end of rookie contracts Graves allow the agent to talk him into putting in escalators clauses. If these incentives are met it put the club in a position of weakness when dealing with that player with respect to a new contract . Antrell Roll’s deal is written the same way . This is incompetent management practice. Why is Graves not called out about this ? His friends in the media don’t want to write about these things. Is he being protected ? Travis Laboy was cut after 1 year with the club. He was guaranteed 7.5 million and now he is no longer on the team.That money counts against the cap in the year the player is cut. Poor decision . Graves made that decision . These are the kinds of decisions that keep franchises mediocre. Isn’t that was the Cards have been ?

by Cardsfan81 on May 3, 2009 7:12 PM MDT reply actions  

He will get what he deserves.

Albeit a trade, an extension, cut or none of the above. To be totally honest with you, Qs money making skills are seriously lacking. He could stand to make tons in endoresments if it was all about the money. It is more or less about the respect, or lack there of. If he wants to to be respected, he needs to start by staying healthy for once. He could also finish his contract out. Say what you want but this was already an extension that he hadn’t yet qualified for. Every dime that he agreed to in this 2nd contract that he and the Cards signed has been paid to him. When its time for a 3rd contract, it will get done. Until then, its all about what’s best for the organization. Things have changed since ’81. But if you keep dwelling in the past and looking for the negative, you will always find it. Stay positive.

by hevchv on May 3, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

disagree (sorry I posted it in the wrong spot)

If it was so much about the respect he would shut his mouth. he would get respect from his "peers" for whom he says he plays if he just shut up and played. People all around the league have lost respect for him from fans (these posts) to upper management (lack of trade offers).

Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.

by sc464 on May 3, 2009 11:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Respect from the organization.

He already has the respect of the players. That is why they lobby so much for him. He wants the FO attention. He wants to be seen as an equal to Fitz. Reality, they’re two different type players and are not on the same level. For the record, he doesn’t care if he lost our (the fans) respect and as far as the league, I guarantee that supposed lost respect would be instantly redeemed if he were on one of their teams. Period.

by hevchv on May 4, 2009 5:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Completely agree.

The perfect example of a highly respected player who is doing his time to get his next contract is Adrian Wilson.

by CardsFan08 on May 4, 2009 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Totally Agree

While I’m not a Cardinals fan, I just enjoy watching your team play and love watching the game of foootball. Regardless though cardsfan, I think they were at something like 41 million under the cap somewhere around after the superbowl. You think priority #1 would be resigning the core that just got you there in the first place. Of course you have to pick and choose who to sign…. but still.

by Doozer on May 9, 2009 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

disagree

If it was so much about the respect he would shut his mouth. he would get respect from his “peers” for whom he says he plays if he just shut up and played. People all around the league have lost respect for him from fans (these posts) to upper management (lack of trade offers).

Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.

by sc464 on May 3, 2009 11:03 PM MDT reply actions  

I've been on some Championship teams

Little league Flag, but 7 times..
Each team had one thing in common…..Oneness of purpose..
Sorry but these Hold out injuries don’t cut it on championship teams…

Dudes.

by CARDSNFCCHAMPS on May 4, 2009 12:29 AM MDT reply actions  

Wow, with that kind of pedigree, you really must know a lot about winning. Please, tell us more how to win at flag football.

by KDean75 on May 4, 2009 7:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

So I was talking with Berry Bonds the other day...

And I was telling him how my little league team won three championships in a row and how we did it without the help of performance enhancing drugs. He started to tear up and we ended with a meaningful embrace.

It was beautiful, I think we both came away with a better understanding of life.

by badmatty53 on May 4, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's all MOOT. THe Cards will WIN THE SB this Year

No matter who’s on the team, and I don’t care if LEINERT ends up QB…Fitz will go down in history as the Greatest player to have ever played bar none..

I can see 2 or 3 rings for him and “His” team…..Warner is icing on the cake, but Leinart knows the system…so LET’S GET READY TO ROCK..
NO matter, the team is SOLID< and they know how to win, HUNGER TO WIN, and got FITZ, and an all star team. Those who left were dumb…..No names here.
Later DUDES..
YEAH, we WILL WIN, and hope it’s Pittsburgh please!

by CARDSNFCCHAMPS on May 4, 2009 12:32 AM MDT reply actions  

This is all moooo

The only way we will win this year is if they all drink enough milk for strong teeth and healthy bones.

Milk, It does a body good.

by badmatty53 on May 4, 2009 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rod Graves

Interesting how no one addressed the specifics with respect to Graves and the Bidwill’s in my post. Not one . The easier position to take is to bash PLAYERS when there is a disagreement between the players and management . No one is consistently correct all the time . Why are the Bidwill’s , Graves and to a lesser extent Whisenhunt not under the microscope interms of how they deal with players ? Are they incapable of making mistakes ? Players take the PR hit all the time . I’m simply making an attempt to be balanced in my assesment of the club I have supported for over 25 years . We are all fans . As a fan , I strive to see the good, the bad , and the ugly . I acknowledge all of it . I don’t believe the current management structure is of consistent championship quality . Just one mans opinion .

’’ Quote " It is not the silence of my enemies that is of a concern to me , it is the silence of my friends ". Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

by Cardsfan81 on May 4, 2009 7:21 AM MDT reply actions  

“You have not admitted how smart I am, acknowledge me immediately.”

by KDean75 on May 4, 2009 7:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

just a tip

No one is ever going to counter point every single one of your arguments in a comment, especially if you have several different points. It’s just not going to happen. If you want to get a response, you might want to break up your points into different comments.

As for a response to your comment that Graves and Bidwells are “bottom feeders,” based solely on the fact that they won’t bow down to Boldin and give him a new contract, that’s simply a preposterous idea if you ask me. You can’t rip up a contract and redo it every time a player either out performs or under performs it. We’ve already done that once with Boldin and what if they did it again this year and then he goes out this season and rips up a knee in the second game? Is he going to tear up his contact and give money back? They negotiated a contract and he signed it. The club shouldn’t have to give him a new contract just because he plays well, especially if there are bigger contract concerns. I’d much rather lock up Dansby and A-dub before we even talk to Boldin. They’ll both be UFA’s next year. Boldin will get his turn at the front of the line, but it ain’t happening this year. He needs to realize that and so do we.

As for saying that Graves and Whiz lied to the media, welcome to the real world. Listen to any coach, GM or member of a front office before the draft and that’s exactly what you’ll get. They’re simply saying what they want the rest of the league to know or think, nothing more, nothing less.

by Bezekira on May 4, 2009 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Bezekira.

And since he wants a response, here it is. The world knows that the elder Bidwells are a farse. No need in beating a dead horse. However, the younger Bidwell has proven he is willing to open the wallet. And I totally disagree about Graves. I think he is quietly creeping up the ranks as one of the top GMs around. At the coercion of the owners he hired Green. He gave it a valiant effort and it didn’t work. Then he went and got Whiz. Exellent move. We have also drafted well over the last 5-6 years. Your argument is as old as your allegience. Again quit living in the past and appreciate the positive direction we are going in. Under the new helm, the SB is an expectation, not a dream. Remeber that.

by hevchv on May 4, 2009 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Force is strong in young Bidwell it is... Hmmm Hmmm...

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on May 4, 2009 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1.....LOL

Also, no one should get caught up in this, “the Bidwells are cheap for not paying this guy.” Remember where Whiz came from and how they do business.

The Steelers certainly wouldn’t have given Boldin a new contract and none of their fans are crying b/c the owners are cheap.

The winds of change of coming and I love it. Repeat after me…….Trust in Whiz, Trust in Whiz.

by Bezekira on May 4, 2009 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

This has been a great thread

I have complete trust in Whiz. The man has a vision and it has been proven through his time with the Cardinals.

I disagree about Whiz and Graves having “lied” about the Boldin situation. Where is the specific lie? Whiz said that there wasn’t many offers, and either Whiz or Graves said that the offer they received was not close to what they wanted for him. Well we heard the Titans, Bears, and Eagles made some calls. The Bears were the only real offer that came through, and it was a 2nd, and only a 2nd. Who knows what the Titans were offering, but who cares because if they really wanted to talk to Whisenhunt and Graves they could have walked their asses over and talked to them at the draft. Also, if I remember the quote correctly the Titans called the night before the draft, well what took place during the draft? If they wanted Q so bad, what stopped them from talking to the Cardinals, because the Bears obviously got through.

So, from that information, there has not been lies about the situation. Whiz and Graves said they would see about a trade, they didn’t say, “Boldin’s out of here on the next plane to [INSERT TEAM HERE].” They promised they would see what they could get for him, and they would do what was best for the team.

Well, a 2nd in return for Boldin wasn’t best for the team.

That’s just my two cents. But calling the FO liars, while it is part of the business, does not particularly apply to this situation.

by CardsFan08 on May 4, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Player Contracts

Bezekira , your suggestion to break up my points is understood . Thank you . First , I base my opinion on historical facts about the organiztion.

Second , TEAMS in the league will and have rip upped a players existing contract if that player performed above his current deal and they had or have the salary cap space . The Bills just re-did Marcus Stroud’s deal . Cards were 41 Million dollars under cap at the start of the free-agency period.

Third , why have Wilson and Dansby not gotten long term deals done ?

Fourth, with the kind of money they had who’ s responsible for the current questions about money ? I don’t know that " Q " should be the first to get paid . Dansby , Wilson and DD are great players too . I just think it could be handle diffent and better .

Graves draft record is mediocre at best . Dennis Green had as much authourity over the draft as Graves did . Boldin , Fitz , Wilson , Dockett are the only Probowlers on his watch .Vandenbosch and Leaonard Davis devoleped in other organizations and then went on to Probowl level careers . Whisenhunt does have potential . Time will tell us if he’s great or not .

You know Bezekira , I agree they can say what they want to say . I’m not driking the KOOL-AID .

Quote ’’ I love discourse . I am dying to have my mind changed . I am probably the only liberal who read " Treason " by Ann Coulter . I want to know – you understand ? I like listening to everybody . This to me is the elixir of life. " Jack Nicholson

by Cardsfan81 on May 4, 2009 10:28 AM MDT reply actions  

"Man who stand on toilet high on pot" Confucius...

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on May 4, 2009 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

much easier on the eyes.

- I fully believe that we’re moving towards the Steelers’ method dealing with player contracts (which has been hinted at by the organization) and the Steelers have a clear policy that they only negotiate with players when there is one year remaining on their contract and the only exception is with QB’s. We’ll see if that works or ever comes to fruition but I’m not going to complain if we’re trying to mimic one of the most successful franchises in the history of this league.

- They were trying to get a deal done with Dansby. They had preliminary numbers in place and he fired his agent. It’s clear that he wants to test the free agent waters and they can’t force him to sign. They were dealing with Dansby first b/c they’re facing a mid-July deadline but with that deal most likely dead, they’re moving onto Wilson. They’ve got all season to get a deal done and I have no doubt that he’ll never hit the free agent market.

- As far as where has all the money gone, I think Sando (ESPN blogger) made a good point about the ‘enormous’ cap space that we had shortly after the season. His basic argument was that we had so much room b/c we also had so many free agents and that once we re-signed everyone we’d have much less cap space that originally reported. Considering that we brought back everyone who was expected to return and added an upgrade at CB, I don’t know how anyone can call the past two months anything but a success.

- It’s really hard to know who has the authority in the draft considering that none of us sit in that war room. An article last year on ROTB cited another story that listed Graves as the best GM in the league in terms of the draft. It’s really hard to judge a GM based on the number of “Pro Bowlers” he produces considering how poorly the PB process is conducted, but I think it’s pretty good that 23 players on the roster were drafted by the Cardinals including 17 possible starters and that doesn’t include Lyle Sendlien.

Ok my fingers are starting to cramp so I’ll wrap this up. I may be a drinking too much Kool-Aid but seeing how far this organization has come in the two years since Whiz has come to the desert has bought the entire organization more rope in my mind. I’ll trust the coaching staff, Graves and even Michael Bidwell to make the right decisions that ensure we make a trip to the playoffs a yearly occurrence. I think this squad is better than it was this time last year and until I can’t say that with a straight face I’ll keep sipping my Kool-Aid.

by Bezekira on May 4, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Drinking the Kool-aid

Bezekira , thats pretty good . Albeit long winded . Your owner is not Dan Rooney . Your GM is not the guy in Pittsburgh . The success or failure of a organization starts at the top and then filters down thru he rest of the organization . To seek to use the Steeler model in the Cards organization is not going to happen as long as the Bidwill’s own the Franchise. It’s a pipe dream .

Maybe , just maybe Graves does’nt know what the hell he’s doing . Let’s atleast , consider it given the way things have gone with a lot of these contracts .

The enormous cap space you speak of was primarily used on 2 players . Warner and Dansby . When you’ve got 6 potentially explosive contract situation you can’t tie up 80% of that cap in 2 players. Again , could have been handle better.

A article posted on the teams psuedo website is hardly to be considered " objective . " It ’s designed to be a fan friendly site .

Now we will agree that the organization is better with Whisenhunt as HC . He is the best HC since Gene Stallings was in the desert .

Keep sipping the Kool-aid but please don’t but don’t get punch drunk .

Quote " The truth is generally seen, rarely heard ." Baltasar Gracian Indian Philosopher

by Cardsfan81 on May 4, 2009 11:55 AM MDT reply actions  

reply button is your friend

- Why wouldn’t the Steelers model work here? What do the Bidwell’s have to do with that? The Rooney’s aren’t involved in day to day operations any more than the Bidwells. They simply hire solid football people and spend their money intelligently. The Bidwells, especially Michael seems very capable of that.

- “hardly considered objective” – Did you even click on the link? It’s not a story that was based on opinion or the thoughts of any writer here. It was a story out of the Chicago Tribune and they’re certainly not a “fan friendly” site.

by Bezekira on May 4, 2009 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

also forgot to include this

- you’re judging Graves on contract situations that aren’t complete. He’s still got plenty of time to get a deal done with A-dub and I think he’s done quite a bit to get something done with Dansby. They simply can’t make him sign a contract and they retained him the only way that they could. You may call that a bad move, but you’d also be complaining if they let him go.

by Bezekira on May 4, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

AZ loves Q

Boldin is a hardcore warrior. I don’t blame him for tryin to get paid while he is in his prime, but he won’t this year. Dockett won’t either. Thats what happens when you sign a contract. Both guys are crucial to this team and the true fans love them both.

Our front 7 would be a joke without D. Dockett. In my opinion he is the 2nd most important player on defense after #24.

Anquan is the best #2 wide reciever in the NFL and would most likely be better than 1/2 the #1s in the league. As long as he remains a cardinal Tim Hightower and Beanie Wells will have successful carreers in AZ.

by CardsDefense on May 4, 2009 12:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Not so sure AZ loves Q

We Cards fan have not had a lot to cheer about over the years . Boldin is and has been the one Cardinal player this side of Larry Centers that I have enjoyed the most watching play the game . Sadly , his fate will be similar to that of Centers . He will be traded or released and help someone else win a championship . Boldin leaves is all on the field and I am here to tell you, not many NFL players do . His metal toughness and physicality gave the Cards offense an identity when it had none . What " Q " brings with his RAC, courage and commitment to winning when on the field is only match by Fitz at WR on this team . I’m not so sure a lot the fans truly get it when it comes to Boldin’s performance on the field . His absence will change the dynamic of the offense as the coverage will roll to Fitz .

DD is a force on defense and the most talented Cards defensive lineman since Eric Swann . Probowl type player . I believe it to be a long hot summer if these players are not dealt with to their satifaction . It could get very ugly quickly .

I read in these threads about adopting the Steeler way of doing business . If this is true , then the visions of sugar plums dancing in your head will not come to fruition . Both will traded or released . It ’s the Steeler way .

Quote " MAN: Kick him—- he’ll forgive you . Flatter him - he may or may not see through you . But ignore him and he’ll hate you . " Idries Shah , Caravan of Dreams 1968

by Cardsfan81 on May 4, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

the Steeler way is taking care of some players and getting rid of the guys who don’t want to be there or don’t ’toe the company line." If that means trading a guy who wants a new contract less than 12 months after signing a five year deal, than so be it.

DD was a “Probowl type” player in 2007. Every other year of his career, he’s been good but nothing great.

by Bezekira on May 5, 2009 6:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

I’m on cloud nine. Our offense is stacked.

1. Warner performing surgery on the opposing defense all day.
2. Fitz, Boldin (under contract for two more years), Breaston, Urban, Doucet (climbs the ranks and turns out to be a stud)
2. A young Wells running LB’s over and stiff arming the secondary, Hightower working out some 1st and short and TD’s.
3. Dansby’s back and need’s another cut throat season to keep his earning potential up, so does Wilson.
4. Rolle getting acclimated, DRC with some experience under his belt. McFadden, can you say upgrade. Really…you want to thow into our secondary.

Is it August yet?

by badmatty53 on May 4, 2009 5:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Really don't know what the numbers are for.

Figured I would beat some of you sticklers to the punch. Got a little exited

by badmatty53 on May 4, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1....2009 should be a hell of a season

with so many guys playing for future money, our QB playing for one last return to glory and the best WR in the business i like our chances.

Screw August….is it Sept 13th yet? Bring on the Niners.

by Bezekira on May 5, 2009 6:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Always Remember

The Cardinals play in a cheap ass town that refused, for years, to build a pro stadium. Since the UoPS stadium has been built, The Cardinals have shown they are ready to spend money for a quality team, just as they promised and delivered (Bashing the Owner today just makes no sense)! Next, resigning Q would be just plain dumb, at the end of the season sure look into an extension. The front office has all the leverage right now, Q has a crappy agent who should have paid more attention, and gotten better money in the first extention, OR advised his client not to sign.

by AkVermynking on May 4, 2009 7:02 PM MDT reply actions  

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