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Arizona Cardinals News: Larry Fitzgerald versus Anquan Boldin versus Jerry Rice and Other Great WR's

If you've been an Arizona Cardinals fan for any length of time, you're well aware of the Larry Fitzgerald versus Anquan Boldin debate. Before the Cardinals' magical post season run this past season, the "who is better" or "who is more valuable" debate was quite a hotly contested argument. Now the Fitz vs. Q debate might not rival Ginger vs. Mary Ann or Monica vs. Rachel but both players have quite a few bullet points on their respective resume's.

Assuming that Fitzgerald cemented himself as the Cardinals' top receiver after his record setting post season, I started to wonder how each player stacked up other great wide receivers of NFL past. To give some background quickly, I started with the all-time receptions leader board and then narrowed the field down to guys who had tremendous success in thier first five seasons. One thing that stood out fairly quickly though is just how rare it is for receivers to be successful in their first five seasons. In fact out of the top 10 leaders in receptions (although we'll ignore Tony Gonzalez who is 9th), five of them didn't record a 1,000 yard season or a 100 catch season until their fifth season in the NFL or later. Guys like Chris Carter (3rd), Tim Brown (4th), Andre Reed (tied-6th), Art Monk (8th) and Keenan McCardell (10th) combined to record just three 1,000 yard seasons during their first five seasons and only one 100 catch season. For comparison purposes, Fitzgerald and Boldin have combined for six and four, respectively. Not bad, but how do they stack up against other recievers who assimilated to the NFL very quickly....

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We'd be remiss if we didn't start by listing Fitz's and Q's stats for their first five seasons:

Fitzgerald
Games GS Rec Yards Avg TDs
2008 16 16 96 1,431 14.9 12
2007 15 15 100 1,409 14.1 10
2006 13 13 69 946 13.7 6
2005 16 16 103 1,409 13.7 10
2004 16 16 58 780 13.4 8
Totals 76 76 426 5,975 14.0 46

 

Fitzgerald has obviously had an amazing first five seasons in the NFL and he's the first receiver in league history to post three 1,400 yard seasons before his 26th birthday. He's also topped 100 receiving yards in a game 24 times (roughly 32% of his games). Here's a quick look at Boldin's first five seasons: 

Boldin
Games GS Rec Yards Avg TDs
2007 12 11 71 853 12.0 9
2006 16 16 83 1,203 14.5 4
2005 14 14 102 1,402 13.7 7
2004 10 9 56 623 11.1 1
2003 16 16 101 1,377 13.6 8
Totals 68 66 413 5,458 13.2 29

 

Boldin has been equally impressive with three 1,000 yard seasons and two seasons with more than 100 receptions. The only real difference in Boldin and Fitzgerald's production seems to be the number of games that Boldin has missed due to injuries.

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Ok, now that we've set the bar, so to speak, let's take a look at some other great receivers who got off to very quick starts. First our list should be no surprise, as any talk of wide receivers has to start with Jerry Rice:

Rice
Games GS Rec Yards Avg TDs
1989 16 16 82 1,483 18.1 17
1988 16 16 64 1,306 20.4 9
1987 12 12 65 1,078 16.6 22
1986 16 15 86 1,570 18.3 15
1985 16 4 49 927 18.9 3
Totals 76 63 346 6,364 18.4 66

 

Wow, Jerry Rice didn't disappoint. Although he didn't top Fitz or Q in terms of receptions, his yardage total and number of TD's are mind-blowing. One other interesting bullet point on Rice's resume is after five seasons, he'd already collected four Pro Bowls and four All-Pros. To give you and idea of what Fitz and Q are up against if they want to keep Rice with arm's reach, he averaged over 1,400 yards and over twelve TDs for his next seven seasons.

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To get to our second receiver, we had to drop down to Torry Holt (11th on the career receptions list) because guys like Marvin Harrison, Isaac Bruce and Terrell Owens had decent starts to their career but they didn't quite meet the criteria.

Holt
Games GS Rec Yards Avg TDs
2003 16 15 117 1,696 14.5 12
2002 16 11 91 1,302 14.3 4
2001 16 14 81 1,363 16.8 7
2000 16 15 82 1,635 19.9 6
1999 16 15 52 788 15.2 6
Totals 80 70 423 6,784 16.0 35

 

Holt's numbers are eerily similar to Fitzgerald and Boldin, with the only real difference coming in yards per reception, but that difference did lead to Holt having the most yards in our sample set. Just for the record though after his first three seasons, Holt's yards per catch settled in around the upper 13's. Holt earned three Pro Bowls and one All-Pro team during his first five seasons and he should end this season inside the all-time top 10 in receptions and yards.

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Our last 'measuring stick' will be, arguably, the best first five seasons for any receiver in NFL history. Randy Moss started his career with six straight 1,000 yard seasons (only one in NFL history) and he recorded double digit touchdowns in six of his first seven seasons.

Moss
Games GS Rec Yards Avg TDs
2002 16 16 106 1,.347 12.7 7
2001 16 16 82 1,233 15.0 10
2000 16 16 77 1,437 18.7 15
1999 16 16 80 1,413 17.7 11
1998 16 11 69 1,313 19.0 17
Totals 80 75 414 6,743 16.3 60

 

Needless to say, Moss was once on track to give Jerry Rice a run at being considered the greatest of all time but being sent to Oakland in the prime of career derailed that thought. Even with two poor seasons though the 31 year old should finish his career ranking second in just about every receiving category.

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That's quite bit of information to digest at once but it's pretty amazing the kind of company that  Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald find themselves in after only five seasons. If only Kurt Warner was about to turn 28 instead of 38, but if Fitz and Q can manage to stay together for any extended period of time, we should see some fantastic career stats for years to come. How would rank these five and how high on the career lists can Fitzgerald and Boldin get? And to make it easy on the eyes, here's the totals line for all five guys.....

Player Games GS Rec Yards Avg TDs
Boldin 68 66 413 5,458 13.2 29
Fitzgerald 76 76 426 5,975 14.0 46
Holt 80 70 423 6,784 16.0 35
Moss 80 75 414 6,743 16.3 60
Rice 76 63 346 6,364 18.4 66

 

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If anyone is capable of breaking all of Jerry's Records it is Fitz

Not only is he the perfect physical specimen to accomplish this feat, but his sheer determination to be the best is apparent his actions and words. The thing that I love about Fitz (outside of marveling at his playmaking abilities) is that he understands that inorder to acheive his goal, the money, the fam, and everything that comes with stardom must be sacrificed for true greatness. He checks his ego at the door.

Boldin will never be able to have this kind of career because he so busy boycotting OTA’s and training camps that he isn’t physically prepared for the regular season and misses on average 3 games a year.

by badmatty53 on May 27, 2009 10:38 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Give this guy his MONEY!

I’ve been thinking the whole time that Boldin needs to shut his mouth and play threw his contract. I love the guy, his heart, his strength and courage he shows on the field is unbelievable and now seeing these stats through his first 5 seasons for the first time I see where the guy is coming from. Not only is he on this list of great WR’s hes played the fewest games. Does he deserve 10 mill a year maybe, maybe not, but atleast give this guy what he deserves the pay for an elite reciever whether its 10 mill or 8 mill a year this man is pleading his case well and if we cant give him what he deserves then he should get it else where. I do want to say PLEASE STAY BOLDIN!!!!

by azcardswinez on May 27, 2009 11:11 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't think Moss or Fitz can catch Rice

I think and hope at the end of thier respective careers the ratings will be Rice, Moss, Fitz, Holt, Boldin. If Moss had skipped Oakland and gone straight from Minn to NE he might have caught Rice.

Maybe Fitz can catch Moss, but he will not catch Rice. This year will be a huge factor in figuring out where Fitz ends up stats wise. I get the impression Warner is now willing to throw to him regardless of coverage and FItz can make the play again regardless of the coverage. If that holds through an entire season, Fitz could have some huge numbers this year.

Even to catch Moss, I think Fitz would need to be the only quality receiver on the team for a few years so he could really crank out some receptions, yards, and TDs. As a Cards fan I don’t want to see Fitz as the only guy. I would rather have the wins and have a balance of receivers and hopefully a running game.

by Drullin'OverDaCards on May 27, 2009 11:28 AM MDT reply actions  

Really????

All he has to do is up his game a little bit and then play at that level for the next decade or so :)

by badmatty53 on May 27, 2009 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Fitz is great but he ain't catching Rice.....no one will anytime soon

I’m not saying that no player, or even Fitz for that matter, won’t ever be a better player but no one will put up good numbers into their 40’s like Rice did. Maybe the NFL will continue to evolve and 150 catch/2,000 yard seasons will become common place and someone will catch him that way but outside of that possibility, I don’t see his records falling.

Don’t believe me????…..consider this…..Rice put up three consecutive 100+ reception seasons between the ages of 33 & 35 and he posted another 492 catches for 6,440 yards after the age of 35 (including a 92 catch, 1211 yard season at 40 years old). Even with Fitz’s youth (two years younger than Rice after five seasons) he’s still got virtually no chance at catching him.

If you triple Fitz’s numbers which would assume he posts similar numbers until the age of 35, he’d still be 271 receptions, 4,970 yards and 59 TDs behind Rice and that’s assuming he never gets any kind of serious injury.

by Bezekira on May 27, 2009 11:53 AM MDT reply actions  

At the height of the basketball season

I read an article on espn.mobile.com this morning about Lebron James playing receiver in college. One of his coaches was a pro bowl safety that played against the greats, to include Rice. He was saying that James could have gone strait from high school to the nfl.com and played at an elite level.

Could you imagine being the poor little CB that had to cover King James at 6’8 250 and a 44" vertical?

by badmatty53 on May 27, 2009 12:13 PM MDT reply actions  

Dude, are you on the pipe?

This post makes absolutely no sense. Lebron playing college football? He went to the NBA out of highschool. What do they play exactly on NFL.com? At elite levels for that matter?

LOL

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on May 27, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Badmatty, been playin' too many video games?

Sounds like EA sports created a crossover video game to me. Next we’ll see Tiger Woods in a Raider’s uniform, aw shucks his 40 yd time is too slow for Al Davis.

LOL

by Drullin'OverDaCards on May 27, 2009 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

lebron james could have done it!

he was an all state wide receiver in ohio as a sophomore in high school. with his athletic ability, there is no doubt in my mind that if he stuck with football he would have received a major college scholarship to play football and perhaps a shot in the nfl. harold carmicheal was 6-7 or 6-8 and had a very good career as a wideout in the nfl and lebron has a lot more ability than him.

by lifelongcardfan on May 27, 2009 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

You honestly didn't comprehend the post? OK...

You see, I was referencing an article I found interesting and relevant to the conversation at hand because the subject matter of the article was about the elite receivers in the NFL and how Lebron James (an NFL SUPERSTAR) had the receiving skills to play at the same level as the athletes mentioned in this article.

Now I know that even your mother (being the saint that she is) was incapable of keeping you from turning out to be the a-hole that you are (ohhh, burn) but please don’t add to the pitty I feel for you by so ignorantly commenting on a relevant post to stir up conflict.

by badmatty53 on May 27, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

You have a needle dick!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on May 27, 2009 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just makin a joke (maybe not very funny)

Badmatty,

I, for one, was just trying to make a joke.

I think a lot of elite athletes could be decent professionals in other sports. Especially the freaks of nature like Lebron. Imagine a young Shaq, Karl Malone, or the Admiral coming at you off the line.

by Drullin'OverDaCards on May 27, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

D. Wade...

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on May 28, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Debate is Meaningless

Which is better a chocolate cake or apple pie a la mode.

Fitz and Q each bring different qualities to the table.

CHICKEN LITTLE WAS RIGHT!

by JJeff88 on May 27, 2009 12:14 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm not sure the QB matters a ton as far as WR stats

Apparently McCown and the other scrap heap QB’s we’ve had in the past got the ball to Fitz and Q (hell I think I could get the ball to em) xD Not to discredit Warner at all, I’m just saying these two find ways to get awesome pro bowl years regardless of the QB.

by Fitz Jizzle on May 27, 2009 4:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Fitz made Eli look good...

We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!

by Hawkwind on May 28, 2009 7:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Fitz could probably make Ryan Leaf look good.

He also made Vick look really good in the pro bowl a few years ago.

by Pyromnc on May 28, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

The ball just has to be in the general are of Fitz and he’ll make the catch. Boldin you just have to make a decent throw to him at the line of scrimmage and he’ll do the rest. With a good QB like Warner though just makes these 2 wideouts even more deadly. Can’t leave out Breaston either as he is becoming a very good WR also and apparently Doucet isn’t that far behind either. Two star receivers and 2 good to very good receivers, man oh man is our passing game going own even more than before.

by Pyromnc on May 28, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just to put a few things in perspective

What if Boldin didn’t play for the Cardinals, what would Fitz’s numbers then be? Kinda hard to put up even greater numbers if you have two no. 1 recievers in Q and Fitz.

A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.

by Sir Whirly on May 28, 2009 2:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Fitz Vs Q

The one thing this post didn’t cover is that both guys are on the same team for the last two years , fighting for the ball. Everyone else in the comparison was on diffrent teams and years…..

To have these numbers and working on the same team at the same time is astounding in it’s own right.!!!!

It’s a complement to the coaching and the players that they are as balanced as they are….

by John just another fan on May 30, 2009 5:53 PM MDT reply actions  

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