Media Starting to Turn on Boldin? Are the Fans?
I know we've beaten the Boldin stories like a rented mule but I'm surprised that both the local and national media are starting turn on him. It's appears as if his 'warrior' mentality is slowly deteriotating into a 'cancer' mentality.
Here are some excerpts from a story by Dan Bickley of AZcentral.com:
The Cardinals' Pro Bowl wide receiver is blinded by anger, or jealousy, or greed.......But as his pity party continues, the love affair is ending. People are getting tired of Boldin's sour mood, and by design, his Q rating is plummeting. He's trying to make you, me and the team so sick of him that he must be traded elsewhere. What a terrible way to go.
I honestly never thought I'd hear a local member of the media talk about Q like this. Wasn't he everyone's favorite player like two years ago and now one of the biggest media outlets in town is publicly calling him out.
With his leverage reduced to a water pistol, Boldin should stop this fight immediately. His sulking is getting old, and he may have just lied to the team to avoid practicing in the first minicamp. This stuff adds up. He needs to smell the roses, and note the shifting winds......Boldin should realize he has no chance of winning sympathy. Not in this economy, and not after the team ripped up his original contract earlier in the decade, rewarding him with $10 million in bonus money. Boldin took the short-term security then, diminishing his case in 2009.
His sympathy factor is fading quickly. Forget the economy, I hate that argument, how many times and how often does the team have to rip up his deal and dump a boatload of bonus money on him?
It's not fair that rookie Matthew Stafford will deposit $41.9 million in bonuses. It's not fair that Ken Whisenhunt coached his team to the Super Bowl in 2009, and is scheduled to earn less than new Chiefs head coach Todd Haley, a former Cardinals assistant.
Maybe the best point of the entire article if you ask me. Whiz is the most underpaid person on the Cardinals payroll and we haven't heard him souding off in the media.
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Ok so some of the local media is growing tired of Q's 'pity party' but surely the national media still loves bashing on the cheap Arizona Cardinals right? Not so fast my friend.....Matt Bowen of National Football Post (if this site isn't in your daily rotation, it should be) recently blasted Boldin after showing up to camp with a "mystery" injury. Now before you say, this is probably just another Cardinal hater who has probably bagged on the organization for the past two decades, he's the same guy who wrote an article in early March praising Boldin and saying that 31 teams in the NFL should be interested in him. You see, Bowen is not only a pretty decent journalist, he's also a strong safety in the NFL from 2000-2006. He described Boldin as the last receiver you want to see in the open field with the ball in his hands. So what has changed? Well I guess Boldin's act simply hasn't changed and it's wearing on everyone's patience. Here's what he had to say yesterday:
This is a clear example of a last-ditch effort by the Boldin camp to get the money it thinks he deserves - and it looks pretty lame in my mind. Since Boldin is under contract, he has to at least appear at mini-camp or risk being fined. But by sitting out due to a mystery injury that suddenly surfaced, he's showing the Cards that he still wants that big paycheck......A paycheck that might not ever surface.
So none of that is really ground breaking news but it lays the base for what's to come.
It is no secret that teams were hesitant to make a first-round offer for a guy they would have to pay over $9 million a year for. He's still better than any rookie from this year's class or next year's class or the year after that at the wide receiver position, but he's also going to be 29 years old next season, and he has some injury concerns......I would want him on my team, but that price tag is a little high, don't you think?
Makes sense when you consider giving up a first and paying huge money to guy with his history of injuries. His age certainly isn't helping his cause either.
If you think he's a $9-million-a-year player, then go ahead and argue away, because it looks like Boldin and Rosenhaus need your help. For maybe the first time, they aren't holding a good hand against the dealer....Sure, Rosenhaus will work the phones and work the Cardinals' front office, but until we see a team actually make an offer - and put some money on the table - this story is dead.....From the looks of things, Boldin should be back scoring touchdowns in the league's best offense in Arizona. But until that happens, we'll watch the drama unfold - again - as he pushes, prods and tries to force the Cardinals to open their wallets......But $9 million a year? I guess those "hamstring" injuries carry a lot of value these days.
Geez, what happened to the #81 that we fell in love with? Will the real Anquan Boldin please stand up?
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I wish I could say that I feel for Boldin, but I just don't. I know that he's underpaid and I understand that the organization promised him a new deal, but his act is getting old and for some reason I even blaming him for Dockett's recent out cry. With the future so bright for this team, I wish some of the guys could just shut up and play. Am I the only one who's tired his act or are you still backing the Q? Is your 'Q rating' dropping?
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Revenge of the Birds' (ROTB) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of ROTB's editors.
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Never really like Bickley...
The guy complains about everything….and he is a Cubs fan and as a DBacks fan I can’t condone being a Cubs fan. As for Boldin I think everyone is just tired of this whole charade. I know I am tired of hearing all this Boldin wanting money, Boldin is faking injury because of money, Boldin wants a trade because of money. It’s getting old hearing this for the past two years and I think everyone is just tired of it, repeating myself there but it is worth repeating. Right now the Cards are doing everything right and hopefully they continue to do so, which I am betting they will.
by Pyromnc on May 5, 2009 8:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Although I did enjoy reading this
I’m glad that the media realizes that what he is asking doesn’t really make any sense. Buckle up Boldin…two more years. And I for one would like to see T.O, I mean Boldin held to the remainder of his contract just out of spite. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy while he is on the field. I just think the true colors of the person he is are starting to surface, even if the devil is sitting on his shoulder.
by badmatty53 on May 5, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I would like to see the Cards keep him the next two years and stick it to him. I don’t think he has the guts to actually not show for camp anyways so I think the Cards should call his bluff if he says he won’t.
by Pyromnc on May 5, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any recourse other than compliance
is shooting himself in the foot and will consequently lower his value.
by badmatty53 on May 5, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot your inspirational quote...
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on May 5, 2009 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back in that ass like a resurrection...
It’s the Ghetto boys coming harder than an erection…
DIE MOTHER #$%# DIE!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on May 5, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What movie was that again?
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on May 5, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best movie ever, "Office Space"
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on May 5, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That 1 vote for
pay me or trade me….must be Boldin
by Pyromnc on May 5, 2009 10:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Boldin has got his family voting now...
by Pyromnc on May 5, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe how many people sided with the team
I thought at worst it would be about 75% against him but 96% is just crazy talk.
by Bezekira on May 5, 2009 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think any one feels sorry
For someone making millions doing what he loves.
by badmatty53 on May 5, 2009 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the now 12 votes are a direct result of you.
In my heart of hearts I know it.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again.
-Barney Stinson
by Red Reign on May 5, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep it in house
I don’t like having all these media talking about Boldin… most of them don’t really know him, I don’t like what he is doing and I really dislike his agent, but it’s bothering to read and listen the same story over and over… so for me this story is a non issue, if Boldin shows up like he did last year he is more than welcomed… I love my Cardinals, but I don’t think we need to get into so much detail of what goes on during the “negotiation” period, I trust Whiz, and Michael B., not so much Graves, in the end I am sure Q and Dockett will be playing at their pro bowl level once the season starts and the games count… until then GO CARDINALS (boy I really miss football)… and please sign those rookies we don’t want any holdouts.
paco cabrera
by pacocab on May 5, 2009 11:50 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
completely agree
I wish they could keep these things in house as well.
I don’t think we have to worry about holdouts at all. I’ve never heard of a late round #1 holding out. It’s really about slotting that low. another advantage of picking so late.
by Bezekira on May 5, 2009 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boldin is hardcore
Drew R. is in league with Satan. I hope we keep boldin for the remainder of his deal….. NOT to stick it to him, more so because he is the best #2 WR in the game and we got him for cheap! It’s all about what is best for the team! I don’t see Ken Whiz holding out!
by CardsDefense on May 5, 2009 12:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Q
But he needs to wait his turn, in case he forgot theres other players on the team that are pro bowl caliber and need to be re-signed. I think the cutting of Hood, LaBoy and Edge might be a build up for such pay days to players like A-Dub, Dansby, etc.
by Fitz Jizzle on May 5, 2009 1:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the only sure bet is A-Dub
I think they’ll put particular emphasis on Wilson, now that they freed up some cap room, and then reevaluate which player needs it most. I think the FO is going to let Dansby slide. They may try to sign him again, but the smart money is in letting him leave after a contract year. Q may get his chance for sooner than he thinks.
But DD, will have to wait a few more years.
by CardsFan08 on May 5, 2009 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q deserves it
No matter what anyone says, Q is underpaid and deserves more money. It is his own fault for signing that extension a few years ago, but I don’t blame him for holding out for more. His next contract will most likely be his last, so why not try to get as much cash as possible when his value will most likely not be any higher than right now?
In addition, why does anyone care if he’s holding out of practice? It’s not like he needs reps this summer anyway; just like other veteran WRs, they don’t need to practice all that much…they just need to be healthy to perform in the actual games.
And by the way, Boldin seems to be a good guy on and off of the field. HIs character shouldn’t be brough into question.
by dbag bag on May 5, 2009 4:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to RotB.
Now with the formalities out of the way, are you high? If you paid someone to landscape your lawn and before your contract was up you decided to pay them more because they exceeded your expectations, would you redo the contract again after your expectations were again exceeded? No. You would thank them for the great service (and be happy you got such a bargain) and if they were unhappy, you would tell them to suck it up. They signed a contract. If they held out, you would find somebody cheaper to do similar work and you would sue them (or in the nfl, fines and arbitration to recoup money). That’s just business.
by hevchv on May 5, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If teams can waive a player (contract included) at any point in time, then IMO players should have the right to hold out for a new contract if they outperform their current contracts. I have no problem with this whatsoever. That only seems fair.
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
so I guess Fitz should hold out as well
and DRC and A-dub and Breaston and Urban. Are you really saying you’d be ok, with all of those holding out of camp b/c they’ve outperformed their current deal?
It simply doesn’t work like that. Not everyone is on a one year deal which is basically what your describing. Sure a player can get cut at any time, but that’s why they receive tons of up front bonus money. Boldin and Dockett conveniently forget all the upfront money that they got when they signed their contracts.
by Bezekira on May 6, 2009 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on the situation I guess. I would hold out if I were Boldin because I think he’s worth a lot more $$ than he’s earning.
If I were Urban…then hell no I wouldn’t hold out.
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
so I guess if you were Boldin you'd agree to one year contract then right?
b/c that’s the only way to ensure that you’re paid what your worth. Are you going to do that b/c you can’t have it both ways.
by Bezekira on May 6, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm probably not
Look…if a player is getting GROSSLY underpaid, I don’t see a problem with him holding out for a bigger contract. Bottom line. Just my opinion.
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you know damn well you can’t compare the NFL to a friggin landscaping company. Are you high?
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I just did.
Its a business. And until the contract is legally altered or broken, it is up to all sides to honor it. He’s definitely worth a lot more money. He should be mad at his agent for not putting more incentives clauses in it (coutesy of another poster) and himself for signing it. That way the contract would have evolved with his play on the field. Even with his low base pay, he could have still been paid pretty farely. Look in the mirror my friend, look in the mirror.
by hevchv on May 6, 2009 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you shouldn't.
The businesses are completely different, man. Millions of dollars being tossed around vs. a few hundred…cmon. I understand that a contract is a contract, which is exactly your point. But my whole problem with it is that the owners can void any NFL contract while the players cannot…and therefore, I don’t have a problem with players holding out for a better contract that pays them more money up front. Just my opinion.
Have you ever heard of an NFL contract that had incentive clauses in it, so that his pay would increase with his level of play? I certainly have not. I’d like an example if you have one.
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
besides super bowl bonus, pro bowl bonus; etc. that almost all players have built into their contract…these bonuses are miniscule compared to their base pay by the way.
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get the wrong idea.
Not attacking you, well maybe a little. But its all in fun. Seriously, there are incentive and escalator clauses galore that can be built into a contract. It’s his own fault. One of the few sports that actually do this. Basketball and baseball mainly have a black and white contract.
by hevchv on May 6, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball has incentive clauses aplenty
Wins, Innings Pitched, Games Played, etc. It’s one of the main reasons the D’backs and RJ couldn’t agree on a contract this past offseason.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/9905959/2
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again.
-Barney Stinson
by Red Reign on May 6, 2009 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dominic Rhodes w/ the Bills
first page of search results on Google:
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/17/bills-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-rb-rhodes/
Just Google “examples of incentive clauses in NFL contracts” and you will see a plethora of examples and scholarly journal articles regarding the subject. The Rhodes incentives haven’t been disclosed yet but I just listed the first one that came up.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again.
-Barney Stinson
by Red Reign on May 6, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple Hundred???
My Uncles landscaper is getting well over the League minimum for an NFL player…
Maybe the analogy wasn’t so bad After all.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on May 7, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should get more money and he has earned it.
So in a year or two I hope he does.
by badmatty53 on May 6, 2009 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
if i had the best lawn in the sub divsion
i might consider renegotiating the contract.
welcome to the SEC kiffykins...
by tempebamafan on May 13, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q
is great. I was for sure he was going to be traded before the draft so that shows what I know at times. Now I think he has to realize that no team was going to give up picks and then give him around $10 million/year. He will probably get a bit more money for the next two years. But I doubt it will be much of a boost. He will definitely play no matter what happens. He loves football and he will not sit out a season to complain. The media will get over it and move on to the next thing to rant about.
by kj197728 on May 5, 2009 6:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Media Hating on Q
I wrote less than a week ago that the Local and National media would not be objective and seek to destroy " Q " . The player will take the PR hit every time. In this 24 hour news cycle we live in an age where stories have to maufactured no matter truth or fiction. The beast has to be fed.
It would not have come to this had Boldin been traded. The FO and fans appear afraid to let Boldin walk. Most want it both ways . Fickle fans. If he’s catching passes they love him . If not , they would just as soon crush him.
I’m curious as to what this team would actually look like without Boldin . You’re the bell cow Fitz , get your body ready to take the beating that Boldin’s body took. After you can can no longer answer the bell as consistently , you too can look forward the rath of the fans.The fickle fans.
Cards fan get use to the thought of life without Boldin . I believe it’s going to be a nightmare.
The media has to side with the club. One player is not more important than the franchise no matter how strong his position is or how much he has meant to the team or community. The club simply has to look good. Boldin has to be the bad guy.
Quote " There are few men—-and there are exceptions—- who are able to think and feel beyond the present moment ". Carl Von Clausewitz, 1780-1831
by Cardsfan81 on May 5, 2009 7:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
The nfl, present day.
So what if he is being potrayed as the bad guy. Its probably because he is being the bad guy. Yes you wrote this last week. But in your mind, it isn’t deserved, when in actuality, he deserves all the blame. Adderal can help get you back to mental health.
by hevchv on May 5, 2009 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
I can think more clearly when I’m off. And I don’t even need Adderal.
by hevchv on May 6, 2009 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
cycling is hard work
After all it is an Olympic sport
by badmatty53 on May 6, 2009 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hevchv, please bring something constructive to this discussion outside of saying things like…. “So what if he is being portrayed as the bad guy. Its probably because he is being the bad guy. But in your mind, it isn’t deserved, when in actuality, he deserves all the blame.” WTF? How is he being the bad guy? Why is he largely to blame? Your posts are largely gimmicks with little to no substance whatsoever.
Cardsfan81 is trying to bring up a different perspective and you reply with a shitty knock knock comeback? To make it worse you have like 4 people cheering your awful, uninformative post on.
Owners/GM can cut contracts at any time, players should have similar leniancy when it comes to being grossly underpaid. Especially when you are dealing with a face of a franchise and one of the large reasons of your teams success.
Get ready for a year without Boldin/or with a really upset Boldin. I’m sure Breaston will develop into a top 10 receiver… same with doucet… since they grow on trees, and are REALLY easy to find.
by Doozer on May 9, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for your kind words.
Now for a little substance. Great receivers don’t grow on trees as you so sarcastically stated, but with the Cardinals attempting to phase their offense to a more power run oriented offense, 2 top notch receivers won’t be as big a need. We would need a true #1 (Fitz), someone to stretch the field (Breaston/Doucet) and someone to pound the underneath and help move the chains (Urban). Boldin has been a great member of this team and is worth every penny he is asking for (to a limit), but it is not time for him to make that penny with us yet. We have other pressing needs that need to be met to secure the future of this team, not just to make one player happy. Anquan is in line to get another early extension, since he has already had one early extension, and must simply wait his turn. His agent is trying to put the pressure on the front office to trade him now, because there just isn’t any way to get this extension done and to take care all of our other players with contract needs arizing. Obviously since there is no pressure to do anything with Aquan at this time and no leverage by Rosenhaus or Aquan, pushing for the trade seems like the only option. Yes, the front office has the right to void contracts with little to no compensation sometimes, but that is the nature of the business that these players chose to delve into.
Cardsfan81 has chosen his side of the fence to defend and I can appreciate it, however, it is only from one perspective and not from multiple sides. He has been a fan a lot longer than myself and therefore has seen this organization operate for many years with no bright future in sight. My comments are stated to open his eyes that we are (in so many words) under new management. He shouldn’t expect to be burned again like he has been so many times in the past as a fan. Yes we are attempting to operate under the “Steeler Way” and not open negotiations on new contracts until there is one year remaining, QB not-with-standing. Anquan just happens to be the first example. If we get this right, then all the other players will have no choice but to follow suit, or holdout.
That is all that I am saying. And as for my four followers; we have been through these discussions in great detail for months now, literally. After a while, it gets a little monotinous and the montra of less is more seems adequate. If you so desire, you can look back at past posts and see for yourself.
I hope this is enough substance for you. Yes this has all been said before and there is nothing new, hence the term overkill and the reason we are so short tempered and short winded over the subject.
With that being said, DOUCHE BAG!!!
And what do you know? No knock, knock.
by hevchv on May 9, 2009 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pretty much covers it, +1 Hev...
If he had been on the site for any extended period of time he would have seen we’ve covered this a million freakin times, hence Peter, Michael, and Samir giving it to Old Sea Biscuit.
Oh yeah, and considering I am so visual inclined, enjoy!
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Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on May 11, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
KNOCK KNOCK!
Who’s there?
Subjective subject matter.
Subjective subject matter who?
Subjective subject matter, so I’m entitled to my own opinion.
by badmatty53 on May 12, 2009 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's give him the over-paid extension
And next year when he is injured 5 games and only catches 50 passes, then the Cards can stomp their feet and throw a hissy fit until he re-signs a deal back down at $4m.
I understand that players can be cut any time. Trust me I do. However, you can’t sign an extension and then turn into a 5 year-old when it doesn’t go your way.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again.
-Barney Stinson
by Red Reign on May 5, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of throwing a hissy fit, they could just cut him and not pay the remainder of the contract.
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only partially that simple.
Q would still keep his 10m signing bonus and would be free to sign elsewhere, but the Cards would still have to absorb the cap penalty for releasing the player. Maybe CG, Hawk, Andrew, Bezekira or whoever are good capologists, but it is most definitely not just a free and clear cut.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again.
-Barney Stinson
by Red Reign on May 6, 2009 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boldin...
I’ll bite my tongue and try to treat both sides of the issue with respect.
First Boldin – OK. You have this guy who’s a truest of the true Cardinal warriors whose production turned out to be worth more than his contract says he should be paid. He feels he’s being shortchanged. He is.
However, most smart negotiators build in the “what if he plays even better?” factor into their contracts by including incentive clauses. Apparently Drew Rosenhaus failed to do this (otherwise Q would have been paid more and, therefore happy). His bad.
Boldin’s gripe, therefore, shouldn’t be with the Cardinals; it should be with Rosenhaus’s ineptitude in negotiating the most recent deal.
By “piling on”, Dockett isn’t being helpful – because his demands (which are also subject to the “why weren’t incentive clauses built into the contract?” criticism) were made only one year into his contract and therefore border on the absurd. By piggybacking onto Q’s issues, Boldin now becomes part of a bigger (even less reasonable) rats nest that now involves Dockett.
Should there be a fans’ backlash against Boldin? I don’t know if there should but there is. Are the fans being fair? WIthout knowing who said what to who, it’s hard to say.
Which brings me to my final observation – If you want the support of your fans, how about a little transparancy? Boldin has been coy and non-specific about what he’s really upset about. The Cardinal organization hides behind a stone wall of silence. What I think really may be happening is that many fans are adopting a “plague on both your houses” attitude, and that’s not good – for Boldin or for the Cardinals.
CHICKEN LITTLE WAS RIGHT!
by JJeff88 on May 6, 2009 9:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I hadn’t thought about Dockett’s demands actually hurting Boldin’s stance but it makes sense. While Boldin might have a decent case of being underpaid and deserving of a new contract, his actions are cheapened by Dockett hanging from his coat tails.
by Bezekira on May 6, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you have an example of an NFL player having incentives in his contract that pays him more money if he outperforms it??? (besides the super bowl bonus, the pro-bowl bonus…etc.).
by dbag bag on May 6, 2009 3:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
players have incentives all the time
We just heard about Roderick Hood having a $2 million dollar bonus if he played in 80% of the defensive snaps. Considering that his base pay was only $3 million, that’s a pretty significant increase, wouldn’t you say? Here’s a link to Somer’s talking about it:
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/52182
Players have bonuses built in like this all the time.
- Do you not remember the incentive that Kurt Warner just missed when his QB rating was 89.8? He would have made another $500K if his QB rating was above 90.
- Jeff Garcia missed out a $1 million dollar incentive because the Buccaneers in the 2007 season because he fell just short of a playing time incentive when the team held him out of the season finale so that he could rest for the playoffs.
by Bezekira on May 7, 2009 6:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and what did the Cards do to Hood to avoid paying him the bonus????
Ouch… LOL
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on May 7, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Underperformers pay money back to the franchise?
It’s time to make the many players that underperform their contracts start refunding teams their bonuses and half their salary.
Just because a player out performs his contract, he does not earn the right to more money. If you argue a player should get more for outperforming, you have to then believe a player should refund money for underperforming. If Boldin gets hurt or just plain stinks it up next year, will he give his money back to the Cards? Absolutely not!
I’m a Boldin hater now because of his media whining. Rosenhaus got beat up too much in Jr High by puny rich kids. I don’t think Dockett is going to fit the 3-4 so who cares what happens with him-heck he probably won’t start by end of the year. Boldin will finish the year on IR. Bring along the youngster(Doucet) from LSU! He’ll take Boldin’s receptions and do just fine.
by cardinalchris on May 13, 2009 10:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome to ROTB
Maybe the NFL should switch to simply giving each player one year deals. That way every player could be paid commensurate to their production in the previous year. Better stay healthy Q.
by Bezekira on May 14, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gawds, it would be like MLB! I'll take up cricket at that rate.
We all leave footprints in the sands of time, just watch out for the discarded fish hooks!
by Hawkwind on May 14, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole system is screwed up
Rookies get fat contracts with no motivation to get better. Players in their prime get cut for cap purposes. Q wants more money which will probably lead to a teammate getting cut and hurting the teams chances. The league should pay on performance
Every player is assigned a base wage in a tiered system based on draft position, service years etc. Put non revocable incentives in each contract. 1,000 yards rushing or receiving get a bonus. X number of yards thrown, get a bonus. X number of touchdowns get a bonus. Create workable incentives for every position. The biggest one of all put a large bonus for being on the roster of the Superbowl winning team.
hypothetical numbers, I don’t know the reality budget numbers but for argument sake say.
every player makes $500,000 to $1.5 Million depending on their base tier. Each player has the ability to make another say another million in performance bonuses. Win the Superbowl get two million dollar bonus.
by TBru on May 26, 2009 4:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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