NFC West Position-by-Position: Inside Linebackers
Our weekly breakdown of the NFC West moves to the inside linebackers today where the Arizona Cardinals boast two of their most experience and accomplished defenders. Karlos Dansby and Gerald Hayes have combined to start 124 games for the Cardinals in the past three seasons and they will be a huge key to this defense being an improved unit in 2009. With the loss of Monty Beisel to the Chiefs in the off season, the Red Birds are left without a veteran backup but there is some youth in the pipeline, but how do they compare to the rest of the NFC West?
San Francisco 49ers - Niners NationFor at least one more season the Arizona Cardinals should boast an inside linebacking crew that well above average, at least as far as the starters are concerned. I say for at least one more season because it's pretty clear that Karlos Dansby is ready and waiting to jump into what he hopes is a very lucrative free agent pool in next year's uncapped NFL. He's quietly become one of the better inside linebackers in the league and there's no reason to think that this season couldn't be his best yet. As you'd expect from an inside backer, Dansby is capable of making plays from sideline to sideline and he can deliver a significant blow once he reaches the ball carrier. What sets him apart from many backers though is his ability to rush the pass just as well as he plays the run or drops into coverage. There are a certain faction of fans that even champion moving him to the OLB spot in the Cardinals new 3-4 defense since he'd likely be the pass rusher on the team from the outside. Despite the backwoods campaign though Dansby isn't moving and the Cardinals are expecting big things out of the 27 year old backer, especially considering that they're paying him almost ten million dollars this season.
The unsung hero of the Cardinals defense for the past several years is Gerald Hayes. Since missing the entire 2005 season with in injury, he's played in 46 of 48 games and averaged 93 tackles per season. He isn't flashy or dynamic but he's the proverbial 'thumper' in the middle of the Cards defense and he'll jar a couple of fumbles loose every season with his punishing hits. He's at his best when he can diagnose a play in front of him and move downhill towards the ball and along the same lines he's a decent pass rusher, although he'll prefer to run over a defender as opposed to running around or spinning around them. He's not necessarily a 'two down' backer but the Cardinals use Adrian Wilson like a linebacker on passing downs so Hayes will come off field at times in those situations. You won't find Hayes on Sportscenter but he's one of the 'glue' guys that hold this defense together.
The Cardinals lost their top backup LB, Monty Beisel, to the Chiefs in free agency so their depth is a bit thin. Ali Highsmith and/or Victor Hobson should get the first shot at backing up Dansby and Hayes. Highsmith, an undrafted rookie last year, showed promise during the preseason last year and was making a name for himself on special teams before a torn ACL ended his season prematurely. The biggest question for him will be his health and how much size he's put on during his first season of professional ball. Hobson is a veteran of the 3-4 defense and had a 100 tackle, six sack season in 2006, but since then he's been cut by the Jets, Patriots and Bengals. He played on the outside in 2006 but the Cardinals think that with his size (6-0, 254) he'll be better utilized on the inside. Also on the radar is Pago Togafua but his lack of size (5-10, 240) suggests that he's nothing more than a special team's contributor. Two undrafted free agents are also in the picture, Reggie Walker and Chase Bullock, but it's hard to tell how much of an impact they will make. With the lack of quality depth anything is possible though.
Overall the Cardinals have a very solid starting duo (dare I say A-range) but the depth leaves quite a bit to be desired. Taking that into consideration I can't go any higher than a grade of B.
The 49ers probably don't have a ton of depth at inside linebacker. However, the players they go with put them in a great position to succeed. The 49ers start Patrick Willis and Takeo Spikes at the two inside linebacker positions. If you don't know what Patrick Willis brings to the table, you've missed out on some impressive football. Bamm Bamm (labeled by pre-Ocho Cinco Chad Johnson) is a tackling machine. Obviously he's played with some sorry talent at times, but even still, he set the single season record for tackles as a rookie (since tackles have been recorded). He seems to have a nose for the ball combined with great closing ability. There have been countless instances of Willis tracking down a running back just as they're about to turn the corner for a big gain. That closing ability (and never say die attitude) was shown on a national stage his rookie season when he ran down Cardinals WR Sean Morey in overtime to save a touchdown (leading to a missed Rackers FG). The one area he can improve on is his pass coverage, but even that has been improving. I could write for days about the greatness that is Bamm Bamm, but I'll just leave it with that.
Takeo Spikes was signed at the beginning of training camp last season to compete for the Ted position in the 3-4. The previous Ted had been Derek Smith who put up decent tackling numbers, but was clearly running out of gas when the team drafted Willis. Spikes was coming off a season-ending injury in Philadelphia, but you never would have guessed it by the end of 2008. Spikes tied for second on the team in tackles and was tied for the lead in interceptions (probably not a good thing). He's brought an outspoken veteran leadership to the defense that complements the blue collar quiet leader Justin Smith. Spikes will eventually lose a step or two, but at this point, at the age of 32, he's still running strong. It probably helps that he doesn't have to be the key playmaker. Defenses will game-plan around Willis, leaving Spikes to continue making plays.
There is a significant drop-off after the starters, at least for now. The team drafted Scott McKillop in the fifth round out of Pitt to basically be the Ted linebacker of the future, once Spikes is put out to pasture. I'd imagine 2009 will see McKillop get a lot of time on special teams, and the occasional bit of mop-up duty (hopefully the good kind) on defense. He's a tough tackler who would seem to eventually fit in nicely next to Patrick Willis.
Jeff Ulbrich was going to be given a chance to compete for the starting Ted position last season but never really had the chance once Spikes was brought in. Ulbrich is a senior 49er, entering his 10th season with the team. He actually took a pay cut to avoid getting released, which is important because of his special teams prowess. He's a blue collar linebacker who does the little things for the team. He'll never be a flashy stand-out, but the 49ers don't really need that at this point. Aside from Ulbrich, Ahmad Brooks has spent some time as an inside linebacker, but will likely have his best crack of joining the roster as an outside linebacker. Beyond that, the 49ers have some roster fodder in guys like Mark Washington and Justin Roland; guys who might have a chance at the practice squad, but likely not much else.
The 49ers don't have a ton of depth at inside linebacker. If Patrick Willis were to go down, the team would be in a whole heap load of trouble. Nonetheless, Willis is a tough guy who has played through pain in the past. Additionally, guys like Ulbrich and McKillop will be able to spell an older veteran like Takeo Spikes. That helps the grade, but the talent that is starting for the 49ers alone gives me sufficient reason to grade them out as an A unit.
St. Louis Rams - Turf Show Times
In a division trademarked for its linebackers, the St. Louis Rams were embarrassingly substandard last year, thanks to poor decision making that left Will Witherspoon in the middle and arrogantly allowed an emerging Brandon Chillar to flee for greener, more frozen pastures. Addressing the situation at linebacker has been a top off season priority for the defensive-minded new regime led by head coach Steve Spagnuolo and defensive coordinator Ken Flajole.
The Rams made their first big move of the off season when they announced that Will Witherspoon would be moved back to his natural position on the weak side. That move was deemed so important, it happened before the free agent free for all and well ahead of the draft. The move will free up the athletic Witherspoon from having to take on huskier linemen and lead blockers in the middle, where he was long miscast with the Rams. Besides giving the team a more effective LB in coverage and pursuit, Witherspoon's presence on the outside gives them another threat to rush the passer. He won't likely top his career high 7 sacks from 2007, but he'll get plenty of work in the attack-first system. He's also being reunited with Ken Flajole, his linebackers coach with the Panthers.
The Rams have desperately needed a true middle linebacker and snagged their man, James Laurinaitis, with their second round pick. He has the size and ability to read and react well to action in the gaps in front of him, and displayed real talent against the run and in coverage. Most importantly, Little Animal has the intelligence and football acumen to be the "field general" that Spagnuolo has traditionally asked his middle linebackers to play. Laurinaitis won't be known for bone crushing hits like Rey Maualuga, the other top MLB in this year's draft, but he's a solid tackler and a tough player. Lots of draft pundits felt like NFL success early on was a realistic expectation for Laurinaitis. He's currently working out with the second team, but no one expects him to stay there. Early reports have been very positive.
On the strong side, the picture gets muddled after the release of Pisa Tinoisamoa, deemed a less-than-perfect fit for the new defensive scheme. Though Pisa was a contributor, it's easy to forget that he battled consistency from week to week and often had trouble with blown gap assignments and bigger, more physical blockers. Right now, three players are vying for the SLB spot in the starting lineup. Veteran Chris Draft tops the list at the moment, but his ability to play all three positions likely keeps him in the all-important utility role. Larry Grant, a 49ers cast off picked up to bolster special teams last year, is another candidate for the job thanks to an impressive work ethic (a commodity valued immensely by the new coaching staff), a good spring and strong, yet unheralded performances with the team last year. Don't discount the something-to-prove factor at play here as Grant gets the chance to see the 49ers twice a year. He was also a teammate of Laurinaitis at Ohio State. The third entrant in the SLB sweepstakes is last year's Mr. Irrelevant, David Vobora. The former Idaho Vandal saw action on special teams last year and in the LB rotation for 8 games. He ended up starting a game down the stretch - partly for an audition, partly out of need - and racked up 5 tackles, 4 solo, in a tight game against the Dolphins.
Vobora and Grant should both make the roster, regardless of who gets the starting job. After those five, the depth chart is rounded out by Quinton Culberson and Chris Chamberlain. Culberson was tapped to start on the strongside at the beginning of last year, but was promptly replaced. He has talent that needs to be honed into a more consistent product. He'll have the chance to do that in camp this year, but if he can't put it together Culberson will be another casualty of regime change. Chamberlain is another seventh round pick from last year. He may get some work in the rotation given his play in coverage, but he'll be counted on to step up his strong special teams play from last year. There are a couple of other names in the mix from undrafted rookie pool, the most intriguing among them being Mississippi State's Dominic Douglas, who led the SEC in tackles last season.
The Rams are in a much better place with their linebackers than they have been in a long, long time, thanks mostly to the addition of Laurinaitis and Witherspoon's move back to his natural spot. There are still very real concerns about depth here, and it would surprise no one to see the team pluck a roster casualty when teams start making cuts this fall. Spagnuolo and Flajole have reputations for finding diamonds in the rough among defensive players and their success with linebackers is being counted upon here.
Seattle Seahawks - Field Gulls
Middle linebacker Lofa Tatupu started his career with three consecutive Pro Bowl appearances. His fourth season was shot to s--t to by injuries. Tatupu badly bruised his knee in week three of the preseason. At the time the diagnosis was a relief, but a bone bruise is painful and can linger for months. Tatupu was listed as probable for the first two weeks of the season. He broke his thumb against Buffalo and didn't have surgery to repair it until January. As of April 9, 2009, he was still wearing a cast. In week seven at Tampa Bay, Tatupu suffered a concussion in the second quarter and missed the remainder of the game. He played in week eight against San Francisco, but was again forced out of action in the first half. This time Tatupu suffered a strained groin. Tatupu appeared as "questionable" in week nine and didn't play against the Philadelphia Eagles. It was the first missed game of his career.
To some-and most confoundingly so-that validated their belief that Tatupu is overrated. It's a label that started at the 2005 NFL Combine. Tatupu measured an eighth of an inch shorter than six feet and weighed a stocky, but small for a linebacker, 238. His forty time, 4.83, is surpassed by some linemen. That led Tim Ruskell's decision to trade up to acquire Lofa Tatupu in the middle of the second round to be widely criticized by draft pundits and those that ape their opinions. His early success and quick fame fueled the backlash.
Now, Pro Bowls are not a particularly keen measure of talent. Many scouts are dubious that Tatupu is an elite middle linebacker. His range isn't exceptional. Even in his better seasons, his tackle numbers are pedestrian and that's always going to be the money number for linebackers. It shouldn't be.
Some players produce tackles all over the field. Others are just cleaning up. Oakland Raiders Kirk Morrison and Gibril Wilson ranked fifth and sixth in total tackles for 2008. Their team ranked first in opponent rushing attempts and 27th in rushing yards allowed per attempt. Their run defense sucked. Morrison and Wilson converted the tackles others didn't.
Tatupu makes productive tackles. He doesn't get too far outside the tackles box, but the ball carrier doesn't get too far from the line of scrimmage either. In 2007, he was involved in 63 fewer plays, but had the same number of defeats* as Patrick Willis: 30. He stopped 66 runs and those runs averaged just 2.2 yards.
Tatupu also excels against the pass. He has nine interceptions and 29 passes defended over four seasons. He is smart and disciplined in a zone and makes up for his average speed with great decision making and precise angles. Tatupu is mostly a support blitzer: Bating the lead blocker or pressuring and sometimes hitting, but rarely converting the sack.
What makes Tatupu special though is his leadership. I shy from celebrating what is often a media creation, but Tatupu isn't a presence or a legend, he's player that smartly audibles stunts, picks out routes and points out plays before they happen. That is, he isn't the kind of leader that contributes swagger, he's the kind that teaches, directs and maximizes the talent around him. Kind of like Mike Singletary...
Mike Singletary the player, that is.
Seattle's depth is debatable. D.D. Lewis is a serviceable starter at all three linebacker positions that has improved as a run stopper and is capable enough in pass pro. David Hawthorne is a hard hitting run stopper that's not yet ready for Sunday. The wild card is Aaron Curry. A player that probably could play middle linebacker in a pinch, and like almost everything football related, would be damn good at it. But no one expects Tatupu to miss time, and so because Seattle is starting a Hall of Fame-potential middle linebacker in his prime, I'm giving the Seahawks an A+ -- rules be damned.
The rankings were tough, as you could imagine, with several high quality linebackers in the division but in the end it came down a neck and neck top two, a close third and a distant fourth.
- Seattle
- San Francisco
- Arizona
- St. Louis
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It's a tough competition with Tatupa, Willis and Dansby in the middle but all three are very good linebackers and should have their best days ahead of them. The Cardinals were hurt by a lack up depth but hopefully someone like Highsmith or Hobson can step up and become a dependable third option. How would you have ranked the units? How far would the Cardinals fall without Dansby?
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Just a Lil' Bit O Realism
Is ROTB the only realistic contributor in the NFC west? The Hawks and 9ers guys are building up their teams like they won the NFC last season. It is ridiculous!
Remember
the Seahawks were only 4 games back. Your record wasn’t exactly incredible.
Dont get me started on Seahawk injuries.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
Oh....I didn't know about the injuries
Actually, you were five games back. And I don’t know if you remember but we went to the Super Bowl, swept the division, and won the NFC west. So the regular season record argument isn’t exactly incredible either.
I don’t think the Cards are perfect. What I was trying to say is that if you look at these weekly rankings I think our blog is the only realistic one of the bunch. Everyone else is wearing homer goggles that are blinding them from the realization that even despite their flaws the Cards are an easy favorite to win the division.
by clevercarbon on Jul 24, 2009 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
They're an easy favorite
Because the bandwagon says so. We could get into a whole discussion about SuperBowl losers and the “curse” and consistent stats that way. Also, the Cards had a good streak, a lucky streak some might say, especially since your season was carried on the back of an old man. Sure you have Fitzy and Boldin, but without Warners’ cannon arm I think it would be arguable that such great recievers would be much more stifled, and how many more seasons’ has Warner got? Now you can bring up Hasselbeck and his questionabilitywith health, but the Seahawks have a SOLID if not the best current second string QB of any team in the legue AND two(!) first round picks in 2010. Talk about insurance, right? Plus one of those draft choices belongs to the Broncos, and it’s obvious that they have gotten worse this offseason and they weren’t exactly impressive in last years campaign.
You say you didn’t know about the injury’s? Let me tell you.
“The extent to which the Seahawks were affected by injury was actually historic. FO’s Bill Barnwell came up with a stat known as Adjusted Games Lost, which measures how each team was affected by injury. As Vince Verhei pointed out in the Seattle chapter of the Football Outsiders Almanac, the Seahawks had the worst Offensive AGL going back to 1996.” —Doug Farrar
It was the worst run of injuries in thirteen years of football. Not to mention vindicating and excusing of our poor defensive showing, all at the same time.
And per the Football Outsiders Almanac:
The wide receiver injuries started before the season even began, with neither starter Deion Branch nor slot receiver Bobby Engram available at the start of the year. Branch played just one game in the first half of the season. Engram missed all of September. Then in the season opener, Nate Burleson tore his ACL and was out for the year. Logan Payne tore his MCL a week later, and was also out for the year. Billy McMullen and Michael Bumpus were signed off the street in Week 3, and both were lost for the season by Week 6.
At quarterback, Matt Hasselbeck missed five games between October and November, then missed all of December. The situation at offensive line was more stable, but ended in even greater havoc. Sean Locklear missed September with a knee injury. Guard Rob Sims tore his pec in the season opener and, like Burleson, was lost for the year. Things stabilized until mid-November, but then a Seahawks offensive lineman suffered a season-ending injury four times in five weeks. The Seahawks played their last two games of the season with the entire first-stringoffensive line on injured reserve.
For a wider summary I suggest you read this.
EASY favorite? Hardly. But a possible favorite. Prepare to be surprised though.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
Very few people outside of Seahawks fans would trade Matt Leinart for Seneca Wallace. Matt is younger and has a much higher ceiling.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
+1
His arguments were getting very hard to follow. He complains endlessly about their injuries and how that cost them the division, and then he turns around and brags up the quality of their depth? As stated earlier, I’ve never heard anyone make a 4-win team sound like the mid -70 Steelers who just hit a run of bad luck the way he did.
i would be butt hurt too
if i watched my team fall from superbowl contenders to a team with the 4th overall pick.
by CardsDefense on Jul 27, 2009 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Something isn't clicking
Not that I agree with it, but in his last reply he makes it sound like they mailed in the season after week 8? So you’re telling me that in addition to having no physical fortitude your team has no heart either?
Again, I didn’t go there since as you pointed out he does seem very butt hurt by all this. Their injuries were pretty vast but if he’s being realistic that line-up isn’t that great when healthy, and I don’t think the transition from Holmgren to Mora will be very smooth either.
Kind of the point clevercarbon is making
“Only” five games back of a team whose “record wasn’t exactly incredible” only leaves the option that your record really sucked (which it did), so it is pretty delusional for the other three teams in our division to continue to think that each of their positions are amongst the league’s elite.
Yes, ROTB is typically the only realistic contributor. To hear the rest of them talk they nearly beat out a Super Bowl team for the division, what they forget is the rest of them were so inept last season that we clinched the division in week 13.
Then again
The seahawks lost 5 games by less than a touchdown, 4 of which were by a field goal. Chances are it the starters played, the goings on would have been drastically different.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
Amazing
how good you’re making a 4-12 team sound that played in arguably the weakest division in the league last year. From previous experience, all Cardinal fans can come up with all kinds of ways to make bad records sound better than they are. How many games did the Lions come up just short in?
I fail to see what the lion have to do with this.
The fact remains that it was chance that foiled the Seahawks, not talent or potential.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
It’s the same statistic, man. How do they not relate? By my count, the Lions lost 4 games by a touchdown or less, and a couple more by 8-9. They lost 1 game by 2 points. They came so close to not going 0-16, and yet… nobody cares. Take heed.
Anyway guys, I haven’t been paying much attention to these division-wide comparisons but it is a strong division for ILB/MLB…
That's a nonsensical argument
The lions had no bearing on the Seahawk or Cardinal season. The purpose of pointing out those losses was to point out that the division wasn’t quite as separated as it seems, if only in terms of Seahawk injuries versus the Cardinals record.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
The purpose of pointing out those losses was to point out that the division wasn’t quite as separated as it seems
and he was doing the exact same thing in saying that you can take any team in NFL and say “well there were several games that we barely lost so we’re much better than our record would suggest” but in the end the W/L record is the only thing that matters.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
comparing like teams
As much as you’d like to deny it, I chose the Lions because you were actually closer in win total to them than you were to the Cardinals. The Lions have all the same excuses you have for their record as well, but it doesn’t change the fact that they went 0-16 or that you went 4-12.
Chance? Maybe all your injuries set in because your team is old and out of shape. The Steelers managed to win the Super Bowl despite being down to their 3rd string RB for a significant amount of time. Playoff teams overcome adversity, teams who win a quarter of their games don’t. What happened to the depth that a team the caliber of yours is supposed to have?
Sounds like you’ve succumbed to what we refer to here as the “Fooch potential scale.”
Read my above post
The one with the quotes to understand how phenomenal the injury situation was.
Point being, don’t expect lightning to strike twice.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
Fascinating Stuff
Makes me wonder why M.I.T. doesn’t have the best football program in the country. Bottom line, your team isn’t what it once was. Your running game hasn’t come close to what it was when you had Hutchinson manning your LG position, and when Alexander was in his prime. An aging OL and mediocre running backs won’t bring it back this season. Your WR’s are finally average with the addition of Housh, you grossly overpaid/gave us too much for Branch and Burleson who aren’t a match-up problem even when healthy. I like Carlson but overall your offensive is a giant question mark going into this season.
Your defense is pretty solid, although your write-up of Tatupa was a little overdone. An A+ ILB makes a lot more tackles and gets off of blocks better than he does. I’ll give the Seahawks their due, in the past they owned this division but your time is up. One last note, since we’re throwing around useless stats, wouldn’t it be probable to think that the Cardinals would have won more than 9 games if any of them had meant anything after win #8? Our performance in the playoffs strongly indicates a “yes” answer.
linebackers
I realize some of my grades have been a bit high, but this is one I think is legit. Willis is a beast and Spikes had a huge resurgence last year.
by David Fucillo on Jul 24, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions
That's Tatup(u)*
If you please.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
I'm a little lost.
I thought we were talking about ILB/MLBs. St. Louis talked about all three positions didn’t they.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards,Rays and "the U"! What a winning combo.
correct
We’re just gonna post the same thing for them this week and next week.
by David Fucillo on Jul 24, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions
This is a pretty good division for starting linebackers.
Quick technical question:
I’ve heard Sam, Will, Mike for the 4-3, Sam and Will for the 3-4, but I’ve never heard of Ted as a designator for a linebacker.
Where’d it come from? Is it scheme specific?
Why can I only think of Ted Danson now?
Another way of saying
the strong side, inside linebacker in a 3-4. Scheme? As I understand it, the “Ted” basically chews up blockers in a blitz where the weakside ILB will stunt behind him. I don’t know where it came from, when hearing “Ted” I think of Ted Hendricks but who knows?
Probably safe to say that Sam Malone or Dr. Becker wasn’t their inspiration for this.























