Cards vs. Pack Post Game Thoughts
First of all, what a crazy game. Say what you want about Arizona Cardinals' football, but there is never a dull moment. This offense played with their football on the gas for 60 minutes and the defense did just enough to walk out of UoP with a win in what could be the most entertaining playoff game in league history. A million thoughts are rolling through my head right now but here are a selected few:
- First and foremost, Kurt Warner is a Hall of Fame QB and anyone who thinks differently is a damn fool. Forget for a second that he's won two league MVPs, been to five Pro Bowls and thrown for over 32,000 yards in his career. During the regular season he's a very good quarterback but during the post season he morphs into a GOD. It doesn't get much better than 29 of 33 for 379 and five touchdowns, without a single turnover. With this man under center don't ever bet against the Cardinals in January.
- Major props to the five big uglies for yesterday's performance. Jeremy Bridges, Reggie Wells, Lyle Sendlein, Deuce Lutui and Levi Brown played one hell of a game and they didn't have to go into any kind of "max protect" to keep Warner upright. In total they allowed just one sack to a team that racked up 37 sacks during the regular season. In addition to protecting Warner they also opened some monster holes in the running game. It's unreal to look at the stat sheet and see that the running game averaged 6.8 yards per rush and the passing game averaged eleven yards per pass play. It's awful hard to lose a game when you averaged 9.3 yards every time the ball is snapped.
- Beanie Wells is and rightfully should be the starter from here on out. I've been carrying the Tim Hightower torch ever since Beanie was drafted but it's very clear who the better runner is at this point. Hightower may still be the more complete back but Wells has a burst that makes him special. That 42 yard scamper around right tackle was a thing of beauty and the short stiff arm that bought him an extra 20 wasn't even a Beanie-esque quality stiff arm but it was still effective. This kid is going to be special.
- Welcome to the NFL Mr Early Doucet. Six receptions for 77 yards, two touchdowns and several Boldin-esque type runs after the catch. In my mind Doucet just ensured that Anquan Boldin will be playing elsewhere in 2010. He's ready to contribute and contribute in a big way. The trio of Larry Fitzgerald, Steve Breaston and Doucet might not be as potent as Fitz, Q and Breaston but the drop off isn't significant.
- Ah the defense. Ever had a girl friend who just drove you up the stinkin' wall about 23 hours out of the day but then was dynamite in the sack. That's basically how I'd describe this defensive performance. Two turnovers in the first three offensive snaps from the Packers and then a third turnover to finish the game. In between though they allowed basically 500 yards of offense, 45 points and about a million first downs. On "get off the field downs" (third and fourth down combined) they allowed the Pack to convert on 7 of 13 opportunities. I will say that Aaron Rodgers was on point for almost the entire game. He missed a couple of deep balls that would have won the game but most of his throws were perfect. There were at least a handful of passes that were simply put where his receiver, and only his receiver, could make a play and most of the time they made those plays. This offense was simply amazing but the defense can not play like this next week against the Saints.
- This is sort of random but unless Gabe Watson simply doesn't have the stamina to play significant snaps, I don't understand why he isn't the starter. When I watch the game I see him making plays and pushing the LOS back but I don't see the same from Bryan Robinson. I know Whiz likes his veteran players but Watson looks like the better player when he's on the field and the gap isn't particulary close in my mind.
- Alan Branch had a fairly decent game in my mind as well. Two tackles and fumble recovery might not look like much in the box score but he held his own at the DE spot. He wasn't much in the pass rush department, which is probably why it looked like Calais Campbell played more in the second half, but with his size, he's a force against the run. A front line of Branch, Watson and Darnell Dockett has to be imposing when an offensive line breaks the huddle. That's 952 pounds of bulk standing there!!
- Lastly, I absolutely loved the fact that Whiz had new wrinkles for the Packers. Dockett and Watson in the backfield had to have thrown the Pack for a loop. Maybe it's being a former defensive lineman myself but I love seeing big 'ole defensive tackles in the backfield.
That's all I've got for now. What a game, what a win. Bring on the Saints!!
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Just an hour in the sack with that girlfriend?
Ain’t worth it! :P
Dansby >> Boldin in my mind for priorities for in-house FA. Breaston > Boldin for that matter. It’s going to be nigh impossible to find a Karlos replacement through the draft and from another team’s roster unless Graves & Co. pull off some blockbuster trade deal. Without balls-out balsam-boned Q the Cards have over 500 yards of offense; without Dansby the first two TDs wouldn’t have happened that way. Think the outcome would have been the same if Dansby weren’t on the field?
::rolls out the carpet for the “Pay Anquan Peoples Front” to rebut::
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 7:26 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I did say girl friend and not wife right.......that's the hot vs. crazy scale (shout out to How I Met Your Mother)
Completely agree, Dansby is a much bigger issue than Boldin right now. I love the guy but this offense can function without him and the same can not be said about the defense without Dansby.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 7:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree Hawk
But keep in mind Boldin has another year on his deal, which means the Cardinals could certainly keep him on the team one more season and still focus primarily on Dansby.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 11, 2010 7:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Boobs is a RFA though...
…and I’d hope the FO keeps him in the fold. It’s time to move Q and get value before he pulls a Roy Williams on us.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 7:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Realistically speaking, whoever gets Boldin will be getting a steal. You know the Cardinals will probably get a 2nd round pick at best. I can’t picture Boldin turning into Roy Williams.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 11, 2010 7:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Breaston probably gets the highest tender in the off season
That means any team who tried to sign him out from under us would have to give up their first and third round picks. Boobs would make around $3 mill next year if this were the case.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 8:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh, that's right. Thanks for the tender reminder.
I’m not ready to lube up the brain for post season yet.
I use the Roy Williams analogy not as a knock against Roy or Anquan but rather as an analogy for perceived production and actual production. Roy was thought to be a solid #1 receiver and in actuality he’s a solid #2 that makes his fellow receivers better. Q thinks he’s a solid #1 receiver and could be, but who really knows, it depends on who is interested and what they’re willing to offer. Otherwise, Q finishes his contract and prays the lock-out doesn’t happen while is without a contract.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 8:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Boldin would blow a gasket if they didn’t have some kind of resolution this off season. He’s ready to either get paid or move on and at this point, I think we’re ready to move on. Let’s just get what we can and part ways.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 7:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Warner is one of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time.
How the hell can he throw more Touchdowns than incompletions? He is still playing like he was in the Greatest Show on Turf days.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand band-wagoner fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Jan 11, 2010 7:48 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
+1
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 11, 2010 7:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I don’t care who is going to start once he retires… I’m not looking forward to it.
by GraydonS on Jan 11, 2010 8:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
-shudders- I rly don't know,
if Leinart can get it done.
A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.
by Sir Whirly on Jan 11, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We will know after he gets a couple of starts.
He looked alright during the Titans game without a lot of time in practice.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand band-wagoner fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Jan 11, 2010 10:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We really do need another option though
who will back up Matt? BSP? god I hope not
by CardsDefense on Jan 12, 2010 9:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Max Hall from BYU could work
He is from Arizona, and I thought he played well in the bowl game I saw him in. The announcers said that he would make a good backup.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand band-wagoner fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Jan 12, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If you guys watched last last sundays game
and really think he is the answer at qb you need to have your head examined
by badmatty53 on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what I'm sayin
I want Matt to succeed more than anyone, but I haven’t seen anything from #7 to keep me from shitting myself at the thought of Kurt retiring.
We need options
by CardsDefense on Jan 12, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mighty Mike
aka, Michael Adams, has been up there on my list of favourite guys going back to his rookie year and his ST work. This year he has been picked on repeatedly due to the mismatches his size creates yet through it all he keeps fighting. His PI calls were obvious and ugly but the penalty was better than going for the ball, missing, and the receiver gaining big yards afterwards *cough*McFadden*cough*. His whiffed sack was a mental error in thinking the ball was being released and going for the ball; to ‘ell with the ball Mike! Hit the body and the ball will come if the arm is extended (see Kurt Warner). For all the hair pulling Adams was causing me through the game his hit on Rodgers to end the game shows his upside for the future; it shows what he can do while the penalties show what the coaching staff can focus on to improve him. I’m not calling Adams the next DRC but I know he will be a capable back-up, spot starter for years to come, long enough for Greg Toler to realize this ain’t the North American Football League anymore and get ahead of him on the depth chart.
Hey Joe, we get it. Warner is great. Rather than repeat yourself for a fifth time, how about Warner threw more TDs than Joe Flacco had completions in his victory>
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 7:50 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I found myself screaming at Whisenhunt to pull Adams after his 10th mistake of the game
Glad he didn’t.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 11, 2010 7:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My wife hates Adams, and I'm not a fan either.
Wasn’t that last play the same play where he botchec the sack, only he executed.?
Love the girlfriend analogy, thank god we only have to hang out with her on Sundays, freakin drama queen…
by badmatty53 on Jan 11, 2010 9:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The ultimate Bi-Polar example if you ask me
Section 135, Row 35
by AJ BirdWatcher on Jan 11, 2010 9:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Your wife is obviuosly an excellent judge of talent 53
I believe she’s not a fan of Hightowr’s either. Up-grades are needed in the secondary…….yesterday……..as in before the season started. Db’s a priority this off-season.
by Cardsfan81 on Jan 11, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Who knew losing Matt Ware to injury would have such a big effect?
Get well soon, Matt!
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
I made a similar comment to an ROTB’er on chat last week.
by KDean75 on Jan 11, 2010 2:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
great point on the going for the ball on Adams
I think it was Dansby is the post game press conference who was saying that he told Adams to just hit the body and ball would come out. I think he and Adams both said that the blitz was the exact same call as the one that he wiffed on earlier in the game. Either way Adams is the little engine that could out there. Dude has a motor that just never stops.
He’ll probably get picked on mercifully next week against the Saints though. If I’m Sean Payton, after watching this game, I’m designing my entire game plan around isolating Adams in coverage. It’ll be up to Billy Davis try and “hide” him in the secondary so that the Saints can’t exploit him.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 7:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Secondary, please get healthier so Adams doesn't have to see many plays at all
Of the three, who instills the most confidence as our nickel back: Adams, Brown, or Toler? Judging by how much time Adams was on the field it’s clear how the coaching staff feels.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 8:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
sadly that sounds like the "pick the tallest midget question"
Adams and Brown both played a ton yesterday, although Brown was at the safety spot.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 9:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Brown looks short but he and Toler are both 5'10
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 11, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Yesterday’s game thread had more than a few emotional calls for Adam’s head (and Rackers’ too for that matter). I think Mike is being asked to do more than he should right now, hopefully Toler moves into that nickel back spot, or even better into the the No. 2 CB spot leaving Adams in dime packages and on ST.
And, please, lets keep our composure about Rackers’ future. I think he was a little surprised to be out there with 14 seconds left, he just wasn’t quite ready to kick. I think it is safe to assume he won’t let that happen again.
Also, anybody else notice Davis had Brown playing some safety in front of RJ in the first half? Interesting…although I did see RJ back in the third safety spot in the 2nd half. Not that either one did anything.
"There are preachermen on TV in a suit and a tie, they tell you to send your money to the Lord, but they give you their address" Hank Williams Jr.
by StuckinColorado on Jan 11, 2010 7:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Saw that too
Thought he did alright.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jan 11, 2010 8:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why would Rackers have been surprised?
The Cards got the ball with 1:20 on the clock and drove right down the field. They ran three plays and called two timeouts in Packers territory with under one minute to go. If he didn’t see a game winning kick in his future, he’s an idiot.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 8:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rackers was assuming they would run one more play
Also, he was just walking around on the sideline in his stupid hat, I think he should have kicked a couple of balls into the net. Staying busy like that should have kept him more prepared, IMO.
"There are preachermen on TV in a suit and a tie, they tell you to send your money to the Lord, but they give you their address" Hank Williams Jr.
by StuckinColorado on Jan 11, 2010 8:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf, SiC, Rackers is the kicker and should expect to be called out to win the game at any given moment
Regardless of how many times he kicks the ball into a net on the sideline and whether he’s wearing a baseball cap, his helmet, or a bloody tutu and chaps. Make the FUCKING KICK, Rackers.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 8:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Needless to say Rackers caused some pandemonium last night
Boog called it, sinking ship feels ensued as we began to reminisce about the 06 season. Sure as shit, Rackers is a freakin headcase (not my words, but pretty much sums it up).
by badmatty53 on Jan 11, 2010 9:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking Rackers!
He almost won me over, but then that son of a bitch goes and pulls a stunt like that. Inferiating!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Jan 11, 2010 3:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Run one more play.
They really screwed by calling that timeout with 14 seconds left. It was their last time out. That guaranteed the packers getting the ball back. If we would have made the kick the packers could have run the ball back. No reason we couldnt have waited until 3 or 4 seconds left.
by supathrive on Jan 11, 2010 10:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Adams
had a rough game. I think it’s pretty obvious that our depth at CB is a bit thin.
Also, on the game winning play, it was Dansby blitzing and jumping that caused Rodgers to double-clutch allowing the extra time for Adams to make the hit.
Great game for Dansby and as I mentioned in the game thread, I think we HAVE to pay him.
by KDean75 on Jan 11, 2010 8:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont pay him for year by year franchise tags Sign him for the long term
The Devil Birds just got cha
by DaCards on Jan 11, 2010 8:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yep completely agree, Dansby makes the defense go
He had a hell of a game and we’ve got to keep him.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 9:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
McFadden is the weak link...
not Adams. (Though I am not sold on MA yet.) McFly can’t cover an old lady at the grocery store…my 9 year old son has a habit of screaming “cover somebody McFadden!” every time the Cards give up a big passing play, and 95% of the time, he is dead on – it was McFly’s guy.
Side note – if Dansby isn’t our priority this off season, shame on us.
by Roy Green was here on Jan 11, 2010 9:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It seemed like McFadden was good when he was on the Steelers.
But he’s been a big disappointment here in AZ.
by jburning on Jan 11, 2010 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
McFadden was terrible too
I guess he was a productive of Pitt’s pass rush b/c he’s been a massive disappointment this year.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I do not like McFadden either. He is a tackler at best and doesn’t seem to cover all that well when he is alone on a play. The lack of pass rush up front is hurting the secondary at times. I actually think Adams does OK but he can’t keep getting the pass interference calls. A couple of times it would have stopped the Packers if not for the penalties. Overall I think the defense spent way too much time on the field. The second half they looked tired and just gave up big plays. It should be adjusted this week against the Saints.
by kj197728 on Jan 11, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe now that he knows
its OK to hit the opposing QB when hes getting ready to make a huge pass play, he do alright in a pass rush/blitz situation. He aint ready to be in as a cover player, so please Whiz keep him where his skills can be used
by Dem_Cardz on Jan 11, 2010 1:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
congrats on the win guys! (saints fan)
talk about a thriller. great game. i’m looking forward to another intense shootout this saturday. which side of the ball should the saints fear most? the offense or defense?
by nanvinnie on Jan 11, 2010 8:13 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
is this a rhetorical question?
The defense just gave up 45 points and your asking if you should fear them?
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 8:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
"There are preachermen on TV in a suit and a tie, they tell you to send your money to the Lord, but they give you their address" Hank Williams Jr.
by StuckinColorado on Jan 11, 2010 8:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Neither, fear the Special Teams beast of Neil "Crap Myself Silly" Rackers on the open field tackles.
Next question.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 11, 2010 8:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nice summary Bezekira
Brilliant game plan by Whisenhunt was executed almost to perfection. It was all made possible, like you said, because of a fantastic performance by the whole OLine.
On the D (like your metaphor), two problems: pass rush and coverage personnel, obviously interconnected. Sounds like good suggestion on Watson, but what about the Adams question? The Saints receivers are alot like Green Bay’s, fairly tall and fast. How about Brown instead of Adams or some sort of realignment of personnel? Something has to change here or there will be big problems against New Orleans.
by BPaul on Jan 11, 2010 9:10 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
unless there's a CB on the street right now who's better than either Adams or Brown
we’re stuck with what we got. I’m sure they’ll try something new but I don’t think we can change personell this late in the season.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 9:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
finished the season in Tennessee didn't he?
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 9:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Green ever landed on a roster anywhere
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
x2 No thanks.
Give me brown and adams before you give me Green!
They are who we thought they were!
by Jessesb on Jan 11, 2010 11:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Any one see the play where rolle
was lined up in the man as a CB and just got smoked for the corner route for the rodgers TD
The Devil Birds just got cha
by DaCards on Jan 11, 2010 9:13 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
which one are you talking about?
he had four and I just re-watched each one and didn’t see Rolle lined up in man coverage at all.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 9:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i will have to watch it but it was the play were he shoved the receiver right after the play
The Devil Birds just got cha
by DaCards on Jan 11, 2010 12:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Happy about the win, our weaknesses are obvious
I said it before the game and I’ll say if after, Adams sucks. Glad he got immediate redemption but just because he executed, the way he was supposed to the first time, for the game winning play doesn’t make him a good player. Still a huge liability.
B-Mac is our most OVERrated player. Hands of stone, not very agile, commits a ridiculous amount of penalties for a cornerback, and he’s sucked at tackling lately which was his strength. We paid him too much, the Saints know it, and they will try to expose that Saturday. No wonder why he was 3rd string for the steelers when he played there and they were healthy.
Glad we opened up the offensive playbook, Whiz is a genius when it comes to the postseason. Let’s hope this good fortune continues.
Anyone else notice Ben Patrick!? I’ve liked this guy since we drafted him out of the 7th round and he’s my pick to be our long-term solution at tight end (of the tight ends on the roster). Great pass catching skills and based on how we ran the ball his run blocking is adequate. Seems to be coming up with big catches more often in critical moments, i.e. the super bowl last year.
In Warner we trust, we’re f***** when he retires.
Great job to the O-line, I believe the only sack was the sack-fumble when we tried the flea-flicker. Hope we try some more plays like that and the Breaston end around. Maybe see a little of Rolle next week!? :)
I think we can beat the Saints, they seem to be on a decline and their history is almost as bad as ours so I have no idea why people think they are this juggernaut team because of one good breakout season, especially after what Warner just proved he can do and has done in the playoffs. What has Brees accomplished again?…………. that’s what I thought, nothing compared to what Warner has and you can’t argue that.
The only other thing we have going for us which I think is huge that I haven’t heard too much of, we’ll play in a dome until the super bowl. Think Warner is having flashbacks to his ‘Greatest Show on Turf’ days? Except with better receivers of course!
GO CARDINALS!!!
by cardsfanforlife24 on Jan 11, 2010 10:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Good call on the o-line
Bridges held his own, for the most part all day. I was impressed
by badmatty53 on Jan 11, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What a great game...
It was almost too much to take. I think my marriage might have suffered due to my wife watching me watching the game.
One thing that really bothered me, and don’t get me wrong – I am thrilled that we won, was why we stayed in coverage all of the second half. Rodgers was killing us and we rarely sent pressure to change it up. Even with Clifton went out of the game we continued to play coverage. I’m not saying we should have sent 6 every play, but c’mon… try something different.
Should be a good game next week. Hopefully we get off to a good start. Playing from behind in that dome in the playoffs would be a very difficult scenario.
by jallred350 on Jan 11, 2010 10:27 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
This game made me realize how much trouble this team will be in after Kurt Retires
I’m starting to think that we should consider drafting Tebow in the 1st round if he’s available.
We need a special QB to make the playoffs (and to win a playoff game,) I’m just not sure Matt is that guy.
by CardsDefense on Jan 11, 2010 10:30 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I admit that it is a high risk strategy, but what if it worked???
what if we groomed him for a year he learned the system learned to play NFL style football. He would probably have a better chance with AZ than with most other franchises. With Beanie, Fitz, and everyone else I could see him being successful here.
by CardsDefense on Jan 11, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no
I agree with your basic idea: they need to get another young QB to take over, but Tebow wouldn’t work at all. They’d have to change their whole system and even then it wouldn’t work. They need a pure passer.
by BPaul on Jan 12, 2010 8:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
any thoughts on a good pure passer QB dropping to the cards in the 2nd or 3rd rounds????
by CardsDefense on Jan 12, 2010 9:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Mallet of Arkansas
If he declares. He’s a junior.
by hadrarius on Jan 12, 2010 10:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he's already said he ain't coming out
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 12, 2010 11:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of days between now and then.
He’s a guy to keep on the radar for next year anyway. Much depends on Warner’s decision. Mallet will do better to stay in college to develop his game but the lure of money and possible rookie cap might change his mind.
by hadrarius on Jan 12, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously we all hope Kurt plays next year, even if he does we should still draft a QB to groom behind him and Matt
by CardsDefense on Jan 12, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Not sure if the FO agrees. I watched Mallet in a few games this year and like his potential with regard to playing the style of QB the Cardinals need. If they choose not to pick a QB this year Mallet would be a good choice the next year, if he doesn’t decide to declare this year. I like our chances of getting him this year if he is available. Next year he may be gone before we get a chance.
by hadrarius on Jan 12, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Tebow
If you look at the history, with the exception of a few, many of the top round draft QBs have sucked. I think we should look deeper for a truly special talent. Tom Brady was 199. Aaron Rodgers was round 2 or 3. Warner wasn’t even drafted. Tebow is a great player, and I thnk he will do well (not spectacular) in the NFL. But to lead the Cardinals, we need to truly special QB.
There is talent out there, we just need to find it.
Or we can have “old man” Warner cryogenically frozen and brought back to life each year…forever.
-- Red headed Cardinals Fan
(Sort of like being the red-headed step child...everyone jokes about beating us a lot.)
by cdredhead on Jan 13, 2010 2:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A great game
I can’t ever remember the feeling I had yesterday before, during and after that exhilirating win.What a nail biting, tongue twisting game to watch. Happy to come out on the winning side of this one.
Thougths and opinions about this classic:
1. The first half defensive game plan was sound and effective by Billy Davis.
2. Rodgers showed his youth early as a result of said game plan by Billy Davis.
3. Warner demonstrated why he belongs in the discussion for the HOF.
4. Doucet looks like Boldin 2.0 in some aspects of his game and definitively justified
moving ahead of Urban and could be pressing Breaston next season for the #2 or #3
slot depending on what happens this off-season. Doucet was best Cards Wr.
5. Beanie Wells if he ever gets consistent carries would be a top 7/8 back in football
maybe better if allow to get in a groove. He needs to be featured now!
6. The full house or "elephant " backfield was excellent eye candy. Should be used again.
7. This was an excellent game schematically by Whisenhunt. He completely out-scheme
Capers. Camera shots showed a frustrated Capers in the coaches box.
8. The defense melted down in the second half. No PRESSURE. Rodgers did what great
Qb’s do. He found his guys for large chunks and put his team back in the game.
9. The Lb and secondary play is scary bad. Even when Rodgers was pressured
completions were made. Yes, a lot was excellent ball placement/location by Rodgers
and the rest a lack of ball awareness by Cards Db’s. Everyone got exposed in this
game in the back-half. Wow!!! Such poor play probably won’t cut it two games in a row.
Everybody keeps talking about how Dansby make the defense go. Did Dansby really have a great game? Wasn’t Dansby on the field when GB scored all of their points? Outside of the play to end the game where was he? Both he and Gerald Hayes were ordinary sans the play to end the game by Dansby. Dansby’s stat line reads 4 solo tackles and the one int. to win the game. Great game by Dansby in a contest where he’s on a defense that gives up 45 points? I can’t see it.
by Cardsfan81 on Jan 11, 2010 11:13 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Dansby
Forced the very first INT of the game if you don’t remember. Huge momentum boost, had they marched down the field and scored on their first drive I’m sure this game would have had a different outcome.
Not only recovered that FUMBLE for a TD technically he forced it because it was Dansby jumping up and down in front of Rodgers that forced him to pump fake and hold onto it long enough for Adams to get there and force the fumble.
If you watched the game, you’d have seen about 80% of the yards accumulated in their passing game were over B-Mac or Adams (therefore not giving him an opportunity to tackle unless he was way out of position). Not over the middle of the field where it would have been Dansby’s responsibility had he been in coverage.
You can’t just base a player’s performance off the stat line. Maybe QB’s and RB’s but pretty much no one else because there are so many intangibles.
Bottom line – without Dansby we would have lost, we need to lock him up long term.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Jan 11, 2010 11:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he also stripped Driver on the third play of the game
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Jan 11, 2010 2:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bezekira - did you tape the game?
I would pay for a vhs or dvd copy of the game….just let me know how much. Contact me at grayland77@yahoo.com thanks
by JimGray on Jan 13, 2010 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What happened on what should have been the game winning final drive of regulation cannot happen in the playoffs.
The win is still sweet, but we cannot afford the mental mistakes of another last drive like that one.
We start, by calling a timeout on the first play from scrimmage because we can’t get a play off? Waste one timeout. Then we get some goofy penalty on 2nd & half a yard. Luckily, Warner is in the zone so he overcomes it all and moves down the field. Then we call a second timeout to save time and continue down the field. Then we call our final timeout with 14 seconds on the clock? Why 14 seconds?? At that point we decide to kick the fg and everyone but Rackers trots onto the field. Graham (the holder/punter) has to start coming back to the sidelines to get Rackers who maddly grabs his helmet runs onto the field and misses a 30 some yard attempt. WTF??
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Jan 11, 2010 11:15 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Fitz messed that one up as far as the final TD,
Urban wrote about it in his blog.
A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.
by Sir Whirly on Jan 11, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant TO
A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.
by Sir Whirly on Jan 11, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I lost weight during the game
My heart was racing for the whole game I am sure I burned off calories just by watching it. WOW what a crazy game, I am not sure what to say about it because there was SO much good but some real bad as well. Good news is we one. Bad news is i got lectured for ripping off all my clothes and running naked through the house. I was gone so fast I didnt even see Dansby get into the endzone.
Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
by sc464 on Jan 11, 2010 12:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Truly one of the great play off games of all time
People will talk about this one for years
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
by WarWolf on Jan 12, 2010 4:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
But will we remember it for the Top 10 games of the Decade in 2019?
You know, with all those upcoming NFC Championship Games and Super Bowls.
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 12, 2010 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice site
Just found this site. We have been ticket holders for over 15 years and I moved to Alaska the year our new track opened. Didn’t read all the posts but all I can say is SCOREBOARD!!!!!!!!
by tzzsd on Jan 13, 2010 12:43 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to RotB!
Don't waste time or Time will waste you.
by Hawkwind on Jan 13, 2010 4:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a quick point on Rackers
He is our kicker thru the playoffs, but we should get some competition in for him in the offseason. Went over his stats, and in the 7 years he has been a kicker for the Cards he has had a good percentage but has been an awful pressure kicker. He has made 2 game winning kicks in those years(42 yds., 31 yds.OT) and missed 4, now 5(who can forget the 40 yarder on Monday night vs Bears or the 31 yard miss in OT vs SF when we lost by safety). And in every game where he hit the kick, the game was tied so a miss didn’t lose the game. To this point, in 7 yrs. with Cards he has missed every “miss and you lose” kick, and even though he hasn’t had a lot of chances, the fact that he hasn’t hit one since his been with the team worries me. Eventually, he is going to have to make a kick to win/lose a big game, and I would be nervous even if it was an extra point.
by toolman234 on Jan 13, 2010 11:50 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
WTB copy of Arizona-Green Bay game on VHS or DVD.
Did anyone tape the game and would sell a copy to this Warner fan? What a game…one for the history books. Warner was absolutley great if this is indeed his final year. Please get back to me so I can purchase a copy of the game. Email to grayland77@yahoo.com. Thanks, Jim
by JimGray on Jan 13, 2010 4:50 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Top reasons why Kurt is the best quarterback ever
1 – He took two eternal losers franchises (Rams and Cardinals) into and winning the Superbowl. Sad to say, but when Warner is gone, AZ Cardinals will be losers again (even with the Whiz).
2 – He is so accurate, he makes the receivers look good. The ball is always safely in front of the receivers, aiding in run after catch.
3 – He gets better with pressure. He gets better in big game. He gets better in the playoffs. He even gets better when the other the team blitz him.
by WarnerFanFromDay1 on Jan 13, 2010 4:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all your points but I think Boldin would argue
About “always safely in front of receivers” from the Jets game last year.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Jan 14, 2010 9:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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