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1. I also agree good and bad. Okeafor was our worst LB this year and I would rather lose him than Bert. But at the same time, we desperately need some youth and athleticism in our LB core. This does force our hand.
2. Also agree. Warner is the engine that drives that powers our O. With his quick release gone I think we might truly see how poor our offensive line is.
3. Good. Carrol is going to need to rebuild the team for it to be successful. Also he is a Ra-Ra kind of coach and needs to have excellent coordinators around him. He is also use to exceptional talent. I mean, how many star/quality QB’s, WR’s, RB’s, LB’s, etc have come out of USC?
4. Bad. I like the balance and parity in the NFL today. The only good that can come out of this is a rookie salary cap. Untested rookie do not deserve the money they get. Period.
5. Agree. Trade him and draft all D and maybe 1 O. I love the man. I want to see the man paid, but I think for the long term its better to have some money for players on D that we can pay than to have two very high paid WR’s.

1. Berry will be missed but there should not be any problem finding a replacement. Brown or draft picks will fill the role.
2. I am still critical of keeping Warner. Yes it drives the offense and they feel like they can win but it also makes it negative. If another QB comes in this team feels like they can’t win and that is not good. They will have to make adjustments this year or next to get ready for Warner to leave. If the team doesn’t feel right with Leinart then they need to find a QB they like.
3. Carrol has looked good at USC because he gets many top players at the college level. I don’t think he will keep the talent level coming into Seattle. Bush looked good for one game but Hayes was gone in the middle and that just showed the lack of depth at ILB for the Cardinals.
4. Dansby likes being in Arizona. He is worthy of a better deal but probably wouldn’t be top money. The uncapped year may give him the chance to find out what teams want.
5. Boldin is done. If he stays he will demand big money/long contract. With Doucet and Breaston it would save some money to trade Boldin. They win without him and with some extra draft picks or FA the team can find other needs filled.

1. I say it’s good. B-Train got out at the right time. He was never much of a run defender but he’d gotten extremely one dimensional over the past couple of years. He hung on a for a couple years as a situational pass rusher and now it’s time to go. Thanks Bert for leaving on your own terms.

2. Bad if Warner leaves. It’s good for Leinart and maybe the future of this team but for now I’ll take what we know over what we’re not quite sure of. I’m not ready for this run to end.

3. Good for us. Even if Carroll turns out to be a good coach, something I highly doubt, it’s going to take a while to turn that franchise around. They’re offensive line is a mess and they have no future at QB. That takes multiple years to fix and Carroll probably won’t last through the rebuild. That team will suck and he’ll get blamed, even though the real blame should be laid on Holmgren.

4. Unknown at this point. I don’t think one year of uncapped football will have a long lasting effect but it’s a problem that the NFL needs to fix before it becomes something permanent. No one wants to see the NFL turn into the MLB.

5. Bye bye Boldin, you were good for this team but now we need the picks that your trade will bring us. It’s been great buddy and I’ll always root for you but your days as a Cardinal are numbered.

1) Berty B took off at a great time for both him and us. I’m sad to see him go, but mostly for nostalgic reasons. I have always been a fan of BB. However, since this thread is about what is good for the Cardinals, and not me personally (lol), this was a good thing. The Cards need to be able to stop the run while still presenting an effective pass rush. As Bez said previously, he’s just not good against the run and really doesn’t fit into the future of our D.

2) I’ll go out on a limb here and be the first to say that it’s good for the Cardinals if Warner retires. Personally, I want another full season out of him and to give him another shot. I love cheering for Kurt and don’t want that to end. However, we don’t need a question quarterback each season. We need a team leading, future QB. We need someone to be the future of this team and to step up and fill Warner’s shoes. If it isn’t Leinart and this isn’t the year for that, then I think Matty has worn out his welcome and needs to be on his way. I don’t see a reason to keep both Matt and Kurt another season. If we want to move forward with this team and get ready for our future QB, we need to either give Matty the shot not or get rid of him now. It’s just tim. I feel if we hold on for one more season, we’re going to be in bad shape next year at QB. The only argument I see that could convince me otherwise is my lack of knowledge regarding NEXT year’s Free Agent class?? If there are some solid QB’s we could go after, then maybe Warner staying one more year and getting a Free Agent would work.

3) Bad for us. How could it not be bad for us? We’ve seen what has happened to Seattle in previous years. They’ve turned to crap! Why would any Cardinals fan want to see a change in that? I’d rather they left things the way they were and continue to fester while we make them our doormat. The problem here is that Seattle is crap, but they are crap with some talent. A coach that can be a great motivator, and Carroll can do that, could ingest some heart into that talent. On top of that, people believe Carroll to be a winner. They believe that he brings a winning mentality. That kind of belief can also infuse life into this kind of team. I just don’t think we count the constant success of Carroll entirely on his players. A bad coach can destroy a good program very easily. He didn’t do that. The last thing I wanted to see here is a wild card and that is exactly what I consider him to be…he’s a wild card that has the potential to turn that franchise in the right direction. That equals bad for us.

4) Pay Dansby. Pay him to close the hole in the middle. With Berty gone and possibly Chike gone as well, I don’t want to lose another of our linebackers. Whether the others ae aging or not, and regardless of how poorly Chike played this season, it will still hurt us if we were to lose too many LB’s. Hayes is injury prone now a he gets up in age also. We’ve all agreed that we need to spend some draft picks on LB’s…but I dont’ want to replace our entire linebacking core! We need to keep some veteran leadership and Dansby is obviously the key component on of our LB’s. He’s also the top LB in the free agent class. Lose him and we open ourselves up for a hurting next season as we will not be able to replace him in the off-season.

5) Trade Boldin. It’s what’s best for the team. Trade him fo a defenive stud or for some draft picks, or a combination of the two. Either way, we have talented wide receivers to step in and we are gearing more towards a balanced offense. We can’t have our money tied up in two high-priced WR’s when it would be better spent stacking up our defense or even or offensive line.

heres my two cents

:Berry= could be GOOD for Cardinals IF they either bring in a dominant pass rusher FA and/or develop (successfully) Cody and Will/new draft picks, and get even more out of the position. I would guess initially there will be some growing pains, but long term we should be fine

:Warner=BAD

:Pete Carroll= BAD. could be GOOD for Cards but I am nervous b/c I think he will make them instantly better than Mora’s team. I hope I am wrong.

:Dansby= I can’t say either way. Dansby is talented, but I am not sure a blue chip draftee couldn’t fill his role?

:Q=GOOD. Again, Q is my favorite all time WR. Period. But I think we can fill more needs by trading him for picks, and Early looks even better than advertised.

In a way I want Warner to go… Please dont mistake that for what it sounds like because I want him back bad and yet I understand the need to move on. If you step back and look at it here is what happens:
1 – Warner stays and we have the same team as last year, we essentially get one year older all the way around because it is the same system and a 75/25 chance of making the playoffs. We have less of a chance to see if Leinart can make it in this league and we HOPE LIKE CRAZY the front office can fill our MANY holes this offseason with people that can immediately make an impact.

2- Warner retires and we move to a more balance attack (what Whiz is silently building behind closed doors). This means its a 50/50 to make the playoffs next year. We are a year younger now not just because Leinart is younger but we have already shifted to the new rush first approach, we see what we have in Leinart and if he isnt the answer we have time to draft a good QB to go along with the other young talents on the team. We move on and maybe play 500 football for a season (likely getting us into the playoffs in our division) and then come out with a more consistent team relying on the run.

This is all being based on Rolle, Gandy, Dansby leaving. I also wonder if Warner retires that the Cards keep Boldin around to help Leinart transition or if they trade him for a pick to plug elsewhere, just an afterthought.

If Warner retires I think we’ll still have an above average team but we really need to bring someone else in via FA or the draft to compete as I have said before.

Good riddance Berry, time to pass the torch onto some of our younger players. I lean towards this being a positive thing though as long as we find a viable replacement. I was not overly impressed with Brown’s performance in limited playing but hopefully he comes out swinging next year.

I’m indifferent about Seahawks new coach. We need to just play our game and worry about ourselves and we’ll be alright.

The verdict is still out on the Bidwells. They have shown in the last several years that they are willing to open up the pocket book and make moves to better the team. But I also think we all have the feeling that they might be pulling the wool over our eyes and eventually revert back to their same cheap ass ways. I don’t however think Whiz will stand for mediocracy and allow them to do that. He would walk before letting his reputation be tarnished because of lousy ownership.

And now to the million dolar question, the Q factor. I forget who said it on here but they explained how Q is perfect in the dump and dunk offense and I don’t think we will be much of a downfield passing team without Warner. Weighing that, Q would definitely allow us to be succesful because of his YAC. On the other hand, we have proven time and time again that we can win ball games in Q’s absence and we are very deep in the receiving core. We could really use him for some draft picks while he still has value and shore up our porous defense. Very difficult because I love Q and it would be great to see him retire a Card. I’m just glad the final determination does not rely on me because I really don’t know what I would do.

Really good segment again man. We seem to be bombarded with stats and news updates, which is fine and all, but you can get that info very easily through other outlets such as azcardinals.com and azcental etc. This article really opened up the possibility to express our opinions on Cards gossip which the site seems to have steered away from over the past year or so. Keep em coming bro

I guess I’ll keep the segment. More to follow as news and rumors develop.

1) I think that Berry’s retirement is mostly bad in that I don’t have a whole lot of confidence in the ends outside of Campbell. With several holes to fill, this is just another position that needs to be addressed with the draft. Unless, of course, Bidwell open up the purse for some FA signing to address this particular need.

2) he’s not coming back, folks. Since he was given $19 million to play last season [the bonus has already beeen paid in full] he’ll make just $4 million in 2010 if he decides to play. And so far, he says he’s not motivated. This is mostly bad but I am not ready to hang myself from the shower rod over it. I have faith that this team will return as NFC West champions for 2010 [though, that doesn’t seem to say much]. Leinart will get the starting job and the team shall see what it finally has on its hands. Definitley expect the running game to be featured more than it had been. This might be a blessing in desguise, long-term, though not nearly as exciting. Dark cloud; silver lining!

3) the competition will do as it does; the team and, certainly the fans, cannot control for this. If the Cardinals owners, GM, and head coach get the players they need to comptete, what other teams do should make too much of a difference. Sure the team has to make adjustments but the focus should be on our own team and matching up against everyone that it plays, week after week.

4) I beleive that salary caps are bullshit. A team lives or dies (profits or loses) by it’s paying fanbase. Field a worth-watching product [with reasonable expendatures on players], make profits. Field shit, and you won’t make shit. As with any other contract, does the cost of a player meet or exceed the expected benefit that the player brings to a worth-watching product and, through extention, more revenue at the gate? If the answer is “Yes!”, you pay the cost. if the answer is, “No!” then you do not pay it. Will Dansby ask for an unreasonable level of compensation? If he does, the owner(s)/GM should let his ass walk. Free(er) market are ALWAYS good, in my not-so-humble opinion; they send signals to all the right places, for the right reasons, for the right consequences.

5) Q is a very good player but he is not content and probably has some ill feeling toward the organization. The WR position is a current position of surplus for this organization. Those two facts lend themselves to an obvious conclusion: he should be dealt for picks or a player (or players) that fill some need on this team. Since other teams know the situation, the Cardinals will probably lack the leverage in any deal to get what fans will think is a fair return. Unless there’s any team that any of you can think of that absolutely needs a WR more than the this team’s desire to get some kind of return. Dealing Q, because WR is what it is on this team, has to be a good.