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Is It Time For Another Change At Quarterback?

Just a quick question before someone writes up the game recap (I'm too disgusted to do it), who do you guys think should be the Quarterback next week?

Max Hall obviously had his struggles, he was missing some throws, and he threw a pick early in the game on a pass that was badly overthrown (but it could have been from the rain making it tougher to get a good grip on the ball), and I have a feeling that the rain played a factor in his struggles. One of the things that was mentioned before the draft about Hall was that he had the smallest hands out of that draft class (around 9 inches), and even if you have big hands it is tougher to hold onto the ball with the rain. And his benching wasn't because he played badly, he apparently took a blow to the head and the coaches didn't think he could go back into the game.

Even though he did play poorly, this was only his second start in the NFL, and he is still a rookie. You want to see him play better, but if the only alternative is a guy who has struggled this year, and another rookie who is incredibly raw who do you go to if you have to make a change?

As for Derek Anderson, he got off to a good start when he went in, completing his first four passes for around 65 yards, then he missed his next four and tailed off pretty badly. He made some nice throws, and he made some bad throws, which is basically what he has been for the entire year. With DA, you know what you are going to get, but more often than not it is going to be the bad Anderson it seems like.

So, what do you want to do? Do you want to see Hall get another chance if he is healthy? Do you want to see Anderson get another shot since he did move the ball better than Hall did (albeit in better weather than what Hall played in)? Or do you want to see John Skelton, or some Free Agent Quarterback and see what one of them can do?

I'd keep going with Max Hall to see how he develops. You know what you are going to get with DA, and I want to see if Hall can show enough over the next couple of games to remain the starter or at least stay on as a backup.

Poll
Who should be the starting Quarterback next week against Tampa Bay?
Max Hall, give the kid another chance.
512 votes
Derek Anderson, Hall is still a rookie, at least DA has some experience
104 votes
John Skelton, lets see with he can do...
189 votes
Some randome Free Agent QB, JaMarcus Russell is still unemployed.
180 votes

985 votes | Poll has closed

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Let it ride with Hall.

Anderson isn’t the answer at QB. Hall may not be either but if he doesn’t get time to develop we’ll never know one way or the other. Bringing in some guy off the street is futile. Should have made a trade before Oct 19 if they were going to go that way. Skelton was a two year development project to begin with. Nothing has changed that. Our QB situation flat out sucks. With Hall there is at least some hope that he will become a decent player. His play against New Orleans was good. Against Seattle he was garbage. That’s the danger of starting a rookie. I’d rather accept that risk than the alternatives.

by hadrarius on Oct 24, 2010 6:19 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed as usual Hadarius

Just like it wasn’t all b/c of Hall that we won, it wasn’t all Hall’s fault that the offense sucked today.

I truly believe he was in the process of finally getting some semblance of a groove going, when Hightower fumbled. Hell every turnover made it a pretty steep hole to climb out of. this was the team stinking in many areas.

If Hall had come back in the game I think we would have ended with at least 10 points just the same.

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by Undrafteds on Oct 25, 2010 5:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hell no!

…Hall sux! It’s been proven. Why waste time.

by theuglytruth on Oct 25, 2010 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah, and it was also proven what a bust Peyton Manning was

after his first two starts in the NFL

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by Undrafteds on Oct 25, 2010 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hall and Anderson

You may be right that Anderson is not the answer, but since the Cards are still in the race Anderson gives you more of a chance to be competitive. I’m surprised so many people want to stay with Hall, when it is fairly obvious that he is in way over his head. Even Billick, while trying to be kind, said that Hall just doesn’t have it now, and I doubt that he will ever have it because I don’t see much in the way of raw physical talent. Normally I support Whiz, but I don’t get this one. Hall simply does not appear to have the skills to ever be a QB in the NFL. Anderson, on the other hand, does have skills but is inconsistent. To me it’s an obvious call: go with Anderson the rest of the way and re-evaluate your QB situation at the end of the year.

by BPaul on Oct 25, 2010 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Anderson

can’t hit the broad side of a barn on 50% of this throws. occasionally he throws really pretty deep balls but then he will overthrow badly on screen passes.

if Hall continues to play like he did vs Seattle then sure, yank him. but he showed enough in the Saints game to give him more of a chance.

D.A. has accumulated years of film for staff to evaluate. Max Hall has 2 games.

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by Undrafteds on Oct 25, 2010 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I did say that DA should be the guy if he played we

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by JoeCB1991 on Oct 24, 2010 6:30 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

*Played Well*

Sorry, hit the wrong button on my phone.

But that was in the gamethread before he even got on the field.

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by JoeCB1991 on Oct 24, 2010 6:31 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

DA, after the first TD drive, quickly re-proved why we went to Hall in the first place

He didn’t have a big turnover, but he was again wildly inaccurate and ineffective.

Hall played terribly, no sugarcoating that, but he still has more potential to do better.

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by Justin Burning on Oct 24, 2010 6:50 PM MDT reply actions  

But he didn't choke like Hall!

…and I’ll take that over that pathetic performance Max put out there!

Let’s see….touchdowns or no touchdowns….that’s easy to answer.

They guy has yet to take us to the end zone! Enough said.

by theuglytruth on Oct 25, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

End the Hall Experiment

He is awful, no pocket presence. There is a reason he was never drafted. We made the mistake pulling the plug on Leinert, now stick with Anderson. Max maybe a great leader, but his skills and arm strength are a huge weakness. We are in a playoff hunt and shouldn’t risk with a un-drafted rookie. We had no chance every snap, reminded me of Tom Tupa as our Quarterback.

Have you looked at the Buccaneers four wins, against very week teams.

by Dingers Roadkill on Oct 24, 2010 6:58 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

theres a reason why hes a rookie, he has never had real chance, and youre expecting the guy to constantly win games as if he was peyton manning or brady? i dont think you dont truly understand what this move ws about, hes no 99 warner hes still a rookie and most of his experience dont come from nfl europa or afl like warner did, thats why hes out there taking his chances. I expect max to be real good in 3 more seasons, it takes time not 2 games

by eduardonwa on Oct 25, 2010 10:53 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Say what?

I’m an old man, I may not have three more years in my life span!
I would agree, if the season were four years long.
It would be easier to quit showing up for games and default the rest of the season.
We could bring our team home and begin rebuilding and training for next season. Why even go through the motions if we are not serious about a superbowl run this season?
I say spend some money on talent this season to fill in missing or weak parts of the team. If our kicker broke his foot we would not wait two or three seasons to replace him. A QB is just one piece. If he is injured or not capable replace his or in this case their asses and take another run at the season.
It is insane to keep trying to win races with a pair of three legged horses. Put them down and purchase a thoroughbred or two that have won a few races. You may have to spend some money but isn’t that why money was invented in the first place? So that we may purchase those things we need and desire?
I’m not waiting two or three years to find out how this story ends. That would be a waste of time. Time I do not have!
Spend some money and make a move like you have a pair. Mr. owner, can you hear me now?

by Arizona Retiree on Oct 25, 2010 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Problem with the kicke analogy is...

There are always a few servicable kickers floating around. QBs that would be an upgrade over what we have that are not signed by another team right now, not so sure. Since the trade deadline has come and gone, you’re relegated to picking over the remnents in the UFL.

by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 26, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

So right now people would rather see the rookie who is greener than a freshly watered lawn (Skelton)

Instead of DA….

Interesting.

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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 24, 2010 7:45 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't think Hall or DA is the answer

But Hall at least plays with a spark and has a lot of upside. I don’t think Skelton can be any worse than Hall or DA, so I guess either of the rookies would be our best option at this point. At least that way we can see what we have for the future.

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by robloosli on Oct 24, 2010 7:53 PM MDT reply actions  

How does Max Hall have "a lot of upside"?

He has very little in the way of physical tools, and leadership (and recklessness) will only get you so far.

Should have drafted Sanchez.

by Fearless Frog on Oct 24, 2010 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

You have to look at it from the perspective of Derek Anderson as your starter.

It’s all relative. We know Anderson sucks. Hall’s upside is in comparison to what Anderson offers. His first start he threw for 63% completions, by far the best we’ve seen all season. Today he was total crap. The choice is do you go with a guy you know won’t get you the wins or a guy who might possibly develop into a guy that will get you the wins. The sad thing is that we have to be in this position at all. Warner retired right away so that the team would have all the time it needed to resolve the issue and they blew it.

by hadrarius on Oct 24, 2010 11:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

“Warner retired right away so that the team would have all the time it needed to resolve the issue and they blew it” That statement is right on the money!

by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 25, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

You have upside if you haven't lead a TD drive...

…apparently it’s all up hill when your at the bottom of the barrel.

by theuglytruth on Oct 25, 2010 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

way to stay positive. Maybe you should go watch another katherine Heigl movie...

The kid had a ton of cards stacked up against him and you expect perfection in 2 games? my god, I’d hate to be your kid.

by Gildo on Oct 25, 2010 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll give him one more game

I was hesitant to jump on the band wagon immediately because I saw this happening. Honestly if he had had a good game against Seattle at their home I would have been frankly astonished. Seattle is a very hard place to play in, so for right now I will give him the benefit of the doubt. His second game in the pros on the road versus one of the toughest houses to play in is a reasonable excuse for the time being. But only for the time being.
Pros of the day, our D looked legit. Honestly the offense lost us the game, Seattle didn’t win that one, at all.

by Jesse Reynolds on Oct 24, 2010 8:31 PM MDT reply actions  

There is no good option

We need to get an actual qb… there are 3 legit franchise qb’s in this coming draft and hopefully we get one of them….

there is no one in freeageny that is any better than what he have now.

if we start da again i may just hurl.. skelton is no better or worse than hall at this point.. and i am fairly certain that halls next game is gonna result in him being carted off the field.

is it too soon to look to next years draft?? we already know what we need.. and the answer is everything but a safety and #1 receiver.

by Flanpaw42 on Oct 24, 2010 8:57 PM MDT reply actions  

So we are 3-3 We still has a chance to get back at Seattle at our place in three weeks.

I like keep on starting. DA should be back up. Kudos to our defense. They kept the Hawks out of the endzone all day except firs TD. Our D will keep us in game. I have faith our offense will be better at home. Go Cards. protect the nest.

by safford on Oct 24, 2010 9:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Going nowhere with Maxi Hall

Max Hall was 4 of 16 — and one of those four completions was to the opposing team. His QB rating was 13.5 (THIRTEEN POINT FIVE) before he was benched due to the “injury.” And doesn’t he have a guy named Fitzgerald to throw to?

Sure he’s a rook but that’s a terrible game by any standard.

by Mac Dre on Oct 24, 2010 9:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Come on

Sure, Max Hall had a bad game. On his second rookie start, in the rain, and in a very tough Seahawks stadium.

If there were a viable alternative, sure. But Derek Anderson won’t take the Cardinals anywhere, and Skelton is just as green as Hall.

by DaveInTucson on Oct 24, 2010 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

More green

Hall played at a bigger program, and played better competition.

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by JoeCB1991 on Oct 24, 2010 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nailed it

Before the muffed punts, even during the teams struggles they were still in the fight thanks to a powerful D and a good running game. Even with the fumble from Hightower slowing momentum the offense could have continued to pound the rock and throw screens with Max until he felt comfortable.

We’ve all been screaming at the top of our lungs that they need to pound the rock, they started to, and it was working. Keep Max in for one more game and use him as a game manager who hands the ball off and throws the short pass.

He needs a little more experience and growth before we can rest on his shoulders for 300 yard games.

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by CardsFan08 on Oct 25, 2010 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Would rather take chances with Hall

As raw as he is, he’s still looked better than Anderson. I mean, you saw it today. DA had one good drive, and then fffft…!

by DaveInTucson on Oct 24, 2010 10:01 PM MDT reply actions  

The only answer is that there is no answer

Hall isn’t a viable NFL QB but neither is Anderson. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, although I think we can all agree that their weaknesses far outweigh their strengths, but the bottom line is that neither QB is going to lead us to more wins than losses.

We are simply in QB hell right now. We’ll probably see three or even four guys start games under center this year but at the end of the year most draft pundits will still list QB as one of our biggest needs. Welcome to post-Warner football.

by Steamin' Beamin' on Oct 24, 2010 10:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Those pundits will be right

unless it’s addressed prior to the draft through free agency or trade, or on the off chance that Hall makes an amazing turn around.

by hadrarius on Oct 24, 2010 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

thank you!

your last two sentences are right on the money! we can always make an excuse for Hall (even though hopefully we won’t have to every week), he’s a rookie, he was undrafted, he was in over his head at one of the loudest stadiums in the NFL, etc. However, we can not continue to make excuses for the play calling. Whiz is obviously an experienced and successful coach in the NFL, the responsibility has to fall on his shoulders. When we were within their 10 yard line with 2 more plays to punch it in, why the hell do we call two pass plays? Our running backs were averaging more than enough to get it into the end zone, pass plays? That was complete bullshit. Run the damn ball, i’d rather take chances with fumbles and an effective running game versus interceptions and an ineffective passing game. The play calling needs to change.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Oct 25, 2010 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Skelton

I was really excited when we drafted this guy, physically Max Hall doesn’t have anything over this guy, Skelton is 6’6" 245lb guy with a very good arm.

According to this – http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/john-skelton?id=497129 , Skelton is going to need some time in the oven to get ready, here’s to hoping he’s a quick study.

The division is up for grabs, the 493rs are done for, I don’t think Seattle is any good, we basically gift wrapped the game for them with the turnovers. I can see Skelton starting in a couple of weeks is both Anderson and Hall continue the suck-fest, since he’s the future. for now.

i double wrap my rascal in order to punish the supermodels.

by sornypanafonic on Oct 24, 2010 10:58 PM MDT reply actions  

I think we should give Max Hall one more chance

If he doesn’t perform good against the Bucs at home, then I don’t know.

The thing is, I really just want this whole QB Situation to end. I’m getting kind of tired wondering who’ll start each week. I just want a solid QB who’ll play consistently.

But I don’t know who we’ll turn to if Max Hall doesn’t work out. Hopefully that won’t happen, but I’m just saying, we really have no QB to turn to if Max Hall doesn’t do good.

Please, let us find an answer/

by Skii on Oct 24, 2010 11:03 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Skelton time!

This guy Max Hall is all hype and no results. I’m getting tired of this side show, back to football and get a winner in there. Someone who isn’t going to choke!

by theuglytruth on Oct 25, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

no

don’t agree with Skelton as the answer….

by Cardzfan on Oct 25, 2010 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

And this is the problem with having 2 rookies as backups

Who do you go to now?
Anderson sucks, he should never play for Arizona again in my opinion. He is so inconsistent that you can’t rely on him at all; one minute he takes the team down for a TD the next he looks like he couldn’t hit water out of a boat. Yes he’s had success before but he is just not a good player at all…more lucky than talented.

Skelton is too raw, he should not play this year. Maybe next year after getting some more preseason time.

Hall is a great leader and you can tell he really wants to win. Unfortunately it looks like he may not have the physical tools to succeed in the NFL, we’ve all heard he’s too short but now this about having small hands and he’s now been injured two weeks in a row…you have to worry about his physical health. He had a really, really bad game but you do have to give that it was in Seattle, one of the hardest places to play, in the rain, in his second start. Really just gotta hope that he plays better because it looks like he is our only shot at a decent year. I know it’s a stretch but there are some decent former NFL QBs in the UFL…Jeff Garcia, Daunte Culpepper, Josh McCown (lol)

I do know that when Whisenhunt released Leinart, this was pretty much the nightmare scenario. Unfortunately it is happening, so how are the Cards going to respond back home against Tampa?

by UAwildcats on Oct 24, 2010 11:46 PM MDT reply actions  

I think the Defense is good enough to beat Tampa

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by JoeCB1991 on Oct 25, 2010 12:21 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am going with Max Hall

Oh please don’t bring up the “we have two rookies” or “Leinart” because last time I checked, those decisions were from the past. People who are saying “there’s no good option” for some reason don’t want to look at how to deal with the current situation and instead want to throw around “I told you so.” DA’s inconsistency is bad, and it can be shown below:

Derek Anderson

Completion: 51.1%
Let P be 0/3 or 1/3 success (completion per downs)

Assumptions:
0/3 will lead to punt
1/3 will average less than 10 yards, and will lead to punt
2/3 will average more than 10 yards, resulting in first down
3/3 will average more than 10 yards, resulting in first down
Anderson will always pass, or runs are negligible

P = (1 – 0.511) ^ 3 + 3 * 0.511 * (1 – 0.511 ) ^ 2 = 48.35% failure to get a first down

Now this number means nothing, because we have to calculate the probability of first downs in a row.

Assume number of average first downs to get a touchdown is 7.

Probability of at least one failure to get a first down: (1 – 0.4835) ^ 7 = 0.98% ~ 1%
Probability of not getting a touchdown: 100% – 1% = 99%

Now, let’s assume it takes 4-6 first downs to get a field goal.
Assumption: All field goal attempts will succeed.

Probability of TD: 1%
Probability of FG: 44.5%
Probability of punt: 44.5%

Of course, this is just simple probabilities based strictly on passing and some assumptions on yardage per catch. But based on the numbers above, Anderson does not work.

I’m not saying Hall is any better, but based on the number of games DA has played, we know he won’t work. So all we can do is risk using/develop Hall.

by KholdStare88 on Oct 25, 2010 2:18 AM MDT reply actions  

This guy is a joke..

..or did you not watch the last two games. Give me a break…send him to the sideline.

by theuglytruth on Oct 25, 2010 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Of course

I would absolutely say bench him if we actually had a better QB. But so far, I don’t see one. Did you not watch the first four games?

by KholdStare88 on Oct 26, 2010 2:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is It Time For Another Quarterback?

That’s what the headline should read. None of the QBs on our roster is the answer, at least for this season, and they may not be the answer in any season. Anderson is terrible and the rookies clearly are not NFL-ready, period. If our QBs keep playing the way they have, we will flush away a golden opportunity to win a third consecutive division title. Even mediocre play at the position would win it for us (which I think Leinart could have provided), but we are getting the worst QB play in the NFL.

But bringing in a new QB at this point must either spend a high draft pick on a QB or sign a legitimate one.

by Zapf on Oct 25, 2010 9:15 AM MDT reply actions  

blasted interface posted my comment before it was ready

last part should read:

But bringing in another QB at this point in the season won’t do us much good either. Like others here, I say ride it out with Hall and see if he improves. If not, in the offseason we must either spend a high draft pick on a QB or sign a legitimate one.

by Zapf on Oct 25, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Philly won't be able to keep both Vick and Kolb.

I think they would try to keep Vick, I’d definitely take Kolb if we could land him.

by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 25, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

random thought

for the off season. Chicago’s getting really sick of Jay Cutler. The Bears have limited draft picks and my guess is that Lovie Smith will be fired.
I’m not a fan of Cutler, but would it be worth it to trade no more than a 2nd round pick to Chicago for Cutler?

by KDean75 on Oct 25, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think Cutler is a good Quarterback when he gets good protection

But he doesn’t have that in Chicago, and he would not have it here with how the line has played at times. It seems like he is getting shell shocked behind the Bears O-Line right now.

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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 25, 2010 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cutler is overrated.

The guy is a legend in his own mind. Chicago sold the farm for him. To ditch him after 2 seasons would be surprising. They need to upgrade the offensive line not look for a new QB.

by hadrarius on Oct 25, 2010 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

People

It was one game. Hall sucked but we need one more before you all started to do collective lemming suicide. Let’s see how he does at home with one more start.

by Jesse Reynolds on Oct 25, 2010 10:13 AM MDT reply actions  

How many times do we need to see...

..a guy not drive the team on a scoring drive? Hall sux, he’s proven that by not leading the team to a score…ever. We’ve seen enough to know he’s ineffective.

by theuglytruth on Oct 25, 2010 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we all got how you feel from your first 30 posts

Probably need a deep breath and relax a little. Max sucked, but it was his second game! Trust the coaches, who are evaluating all our QBs to have at least a little inside info of which you are unaware.

by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 25, 2010 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would actually love to see leinart back to arizona, just for the sake of knowing what it would happen lol

by eduardonwa on Oct 25, 2010 11:00 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

QB? Should it even matter?

FEED THE BALL TO BEANIE AND TIM.

The lack of trust in the running game is boggling my mind. Yes they have the tendency to put the ball on the ground a bit more than you’d like, but it’s not like it could be worse than the QB play thusfar.

by SenSurround on Oct 25, 2010 11:40 AM MDT reply actions  

The lack of trust in the running game is boggling my mind.

Exactly. When they pounded the rock, they got somewhere. What the heck happened to that?

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by CardsFan08 on Oct 25, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Come on he is a rookie.

I agree with the people who are saying that more emphasis should be placed on the run it makes no sense why we are airing out the damn ball so much. When we do run the ball we get nice chunks of yards the only draw back is the fumbles but i would rather take the possibility of moving the chains than having incompletions three and outs and very little time run off the clock.

Now as for Max Hall he is a rookie you cant expect him to come out and be an elite qb thats just wishful thinking and completely absurd. He needs to be given time to adjust and become accustomed to the nfl. Here is something to think about, peyton manning in his first two games threw a combined 2 tds and 6 ints but we know how that situation ended up. Now I am not saying hall is peyton manning all i am saying is that you cant just give the guy two weeks and expect him to become great or even good. You have to let him ride it out and see if he improves and shows promise. I believe we give the guy a few more games and if he hasnt improved then we either start planning which qb we draft or see what we have in skelton.

by BIGRED CARDINAL on Oct 25, 2010 12:37 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Give me a break!

I’d pull this side show bob before we lose anymore ground on the division.

by theuglytruth on Oct 25, 2010 1:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Just use 1 post to say this next time...

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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 25, 2010 6:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Time to look for another QB

We need to hit the grocery market and find our next QB.

How many punts and kickoffs have we flubbed this year…seems like alot?

We should run the ball 60% of the time…need to hold the FB though, both RB’s drop it.

Need to weather the storm, we have more home games left then most teams. Still like Anderson over Hall, based on arm strength and experience. Have no clue who Skelton is, but if we tank the season put him in against Dallas on Chrismas, give us some hope for next year.

by Dingers Roadkill on Oct 25, 2010 1:33 PM MDT reply actions  

I still think we'll be better at home than on the road.

If we take care of HOME games, we can have another SAINTS game. The DIV is still not out of reach yet…

by safford on Oct 25, 2010 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

agreed, but

we have to stabilize the QB position….

by Cardzfan on Oct 25, 2010 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Give Hall some gloves!

Some of those Warner gloves would’ve gone a long way with the rain. How come none of the equipment guys on the sidelines thought of this?
Also, how come Breaston was talking up his return, only to be listed as inactive? I think I heard Whisenhunt say something about the wet field being a factor, but he could’ve been used just to return punts. Onrea Jones was active but I don’t remember seeing him get any time. Strange decisions from the Whiz…

by ajotanelsona on Oct 25, 2010 1:37 PM MDT reply actions  

+1

Whiz said they are thinking about doing that in one of the links.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 25, 2010 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Solution!

Client #9 – Every time I leave my dog alone in the house, he shits on the carpet! What should I do?

Dog Wisperer – Buy him some gloves!

by Arizona Retiree on Oct 25, 2010 5:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Solution 2

Client #9 – Every time I leave my dog alone in the house, he shits on the carpet! What should I do?

Dog Wisperer – Extend the coaches contract and give him a raise!

by Arizona Retiree on Oct 25, 2010 5:50 PM MDT reply actions  

Solution 3

Client #9 – Every time I leave my dog alone in the house, he shits on the carpet! What should I do?

Dog Wisperer – Put more puppies in the house with him to keep him company.

by Arizona Retiree on Oct 25, 2010 5:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Solution 4

Client #9 – Every time I leave my dog alone in the house, he shits on the carpet! What should I do?

Ghost Wisperer – How did this dog get over here with all you spooks?

Have a Happy Holoween.

Scariest Costume this year – Darek Anderson carrying a football.
Least Popular Costume – Max hall carrying a football.
Most expensive costume – Whiz carrying a clipboard.

by Arizona Retiree on Oct 25, 2010 6:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Ok, kinda funny posts

but when does somebody beat that dogs ass?

by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 25, 2010 9:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hall for now

I have no problem if they start Anderson though. Or yank the kid after one series. Its all about points and production. Screw the model and screw confidence. Whatever it takes to win. They broke the rules when they didn’t manage the QB situation properly. (we’re going to be talking about this until the QB situation is resolved). The options suck. Do it by committee if necessary.

We should not go out and get a FA. That won’t work either.

by Cardzfan on Oct 25, 2010 6:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Hall will get another chance

Unless he dont pass the physical. Sure are alot of folks signing up just to complain bout the Cardinals lately. Got some bored niner nation people tired of bitchin bout their own team?

by Dem_Cardz on Oct 25, 2010 9:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Think about this

Why not go with a new QB? I’d snatch Nate Dais off of the Niners practice squad. Trust me, he should not be there. He is the best QB on their roster but Singletary cut him to comfort Alex Smith. Check out his Noner clips on youtube. He only played against 2nd stringers in the preseason this year and last. The kid has a cannon. He has pocket presence. He moves well in space. He has an accurate arm. He does have a learning disability. The bottom line is the kid has all the throws. Check him out on youtube under Nate Davis As A San Francisco Forty Niner

Lastly, the Niners haveput him in Singletary’s dog house. They are about to have to activate him themselves because he is all they have now that Smith is hurt and Carrs sucks. We could hurt them as well by taking their QB and he can help us IMO.

by jordanj on Oct 25, 2010 11:10 PM MDT reply actions  

He was also horrible with clock management

In the Sunday Night preseason game the 49ers had, they had to burn 2 timeouts because he could not get the play off in time. And after that 60 yard pass he threw in that game, he couldn’t do anything. He missed almost every throw after that.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 25, 2010 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

oc

You have to remember, that was the OC’s fault. That’s wwhy he got fired, for not getting the plays in on time to Smith and the playcalling itself. Hall is horrible. He will be playing in 2 weeks for 1 of us or them.

by jordanj on Oct 26, 2010 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Troy Smith

is behind Carr. They won’t activate this kid unless Smith is going on IR.

by hadrarius on Oct 26, 2010 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be clear unless Alex Smith is going on IR.

by hadrarius on Oct 26, 2010 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

how about this?

hall is ‘effective’ when going in for a failed qb, DA throws 4 completions in a row when going in for a failed qb. let’s just jump between the two every other series.
(sarcasm)

by cardsfanforlife24 on Oct 25, 2010 11:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Seahawk Season Ticket Holder

After watching the game in person on Sunday, it is clear to me that Derrick Anderson gives you a better chance of winning this season. Myself and the fans sitting around me had zero fear with Hall in the game. It was obvious that he was not going to get the job done. The question the Cardinals need to ask themselves is if they truly believe they have a chance of winning this year or how important is this year’s success in the big scheme of things. If this year is an opportunity or is important to the overall progress of the franchise, you have to play Derrick Anderson because there is no way you will win this year consistently with Max Hall. Derrick Anderson is an experience QB and has had moderate success in the league.
On the other hand, if this year is just a step for something bigger down the road and you really think Max Hall is your quarterback of the future, than you should play him and let him develop. Otherwise, you will be in this exact same position next year.
That’s my two cents, good luck, but not really.

by astanfi on Oct 26, 2010 11:55 AM MDT reply actions  

There is no way

we will win consistantly with Derek Anderson either. You may have had an in person view of one game but we’ve lived through 6 games with these guys. If Anderson was getting it done Hall would never have seen the field in the first place.

by hadrarius on Oct 26, 2010 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 26, 2010 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cards QB

The Cards do not have a quarterback. Anderson can’t do it, Hall and Skelton may eventually be the answer, but for now, best case, they are back-ups. WE NEED TO GO OUT AND BUY A QUARTERBACK- SOMETHING THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE AS SOON AS WARNER’S RETIREMENT LAST YEAR (and not an Anderson-type QB- Wisenhunt should have known better than to pick a cut guy from a last place team!)!

by leep on Oct 26, 2010 12:30 PM MDT reply actions  

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