Arizona Cardinals Get Waxed By San Diego Chargers, Fall 41-10
by Andrew602 on Oct 3, 2010 5:12 PM MDT
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PrintHow much can you say about a game in which the Cardinals lost by 31 points? Not a lot. The game began with a great drive by the Cardinals offense that eventually led to a Tim Hightower 22-yard touchdown. Unfortunately, the run was called back because of a mysterious holding call against the Cardinals. The very next play Derek Anderson threw into coverage -- suffering his fourth interception of the season.
I won't bring anymore pain to those of you who actually watched the entire game. I think I can say confidently that I didn't sign up for this. None of us did. Ken Whisenhunt's quarrel with Matt Lienart before the season began was immature and hindered the chances at success for this team. Derek Anderson -- quite possibly could have been the worst quarterback in the league the last two seasons -- was supposed to lead the Cardinals to the playoffs this year? Really? Forgive me for ranting a bit, and I'm in no way saying Leinart would've had anymore success, but at least we could have found out. Now we're left with an empty feeling inside wondering what could have been.
Anderson was inevitably benched today for his abysmal performance. His 23.2 quarterback rating for the day may be our last memory of Anderson. Yet somehow, I feel like Whisenhunt will continue to stick to his guns and let his quarterback return to action next week. Anderson is clearly not a good quarterback. For those of you that support him, please elaborate on why you do. Not because I want to argue, but because I can't see it for myself. Can we let the Anderson-era die already?
The next target on my list is Bill Davis. While I search for a word to describe how horrible his coverage schemes were today, let me say that his defense allowed over 400 yards of total offense and allowed Mike Tolbert to run wild -- reaching 100 rushing yards. At one point I think Davis decided to bury his head in the sand and cower until the game was over -- hence the picture above. His predictable ways continued today, often blitzing on third downs instead of double covering Antonio Gates like he should have been. He continued to let Chargers' running backs blow through holes instead of stacking the box. The defense couldn't get a stop until late in the fourth quarter when the Chargers punted for the first time in the game. I've reached my limit with Davis and am counting down the days till he's no longer part of the team.
The offensive line gets no pass today. Allowing nine sacks is inexcusable. Too often, Brandon Keith failed to even look for the blitz. Levi Brown and Alan Faneca couldn't contain their assignments. It was an all around horrible game for the offensive line. I'm ready to see Jeremy Bridges get some action if the others can't handle their duties.
There weren't many positives to the game. Max Hall played much better then Anderson -- even if that's not saying much. He didn't put the ball in the other team's hands and threw with some confidence. Let's remember that he's still a rookie and likely faced some nerves. Whether or not they continue means little at this point. He should be the starter next week.
Greg Toler has to be the player of the game for the Cardinals. He recorded seven tackles, one sack, and forced the fumble that led to the Cardinals only touchdown of the game. I also don't recall him giving up any big plays either.
Where do the Cardinals go from here? As crazy as it sounds, they wound up in first place in the NFC West today and currently lead the Rams by half a game. They return home next week against a different New Orleans Saints team. Could we see a turnaround? If Max Hall starts and Bill Davis is collecting unemployment, the Cardinals could look like a different team. That could also just be wishful thinking . Either way, a change needs to be made.
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What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Oct 3, 2010 5:13 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Done
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I like!
Finally, a story based in fact and not fiction. The one thing you left out is that Whiz’s job might be on the line if things don’t turn around soon. With Warner out of the way, his decision making has been exposed for what it is, poor.
I remember Warner coming to the sideline hot, and yelling at Whiz. I thought he was upset over a bad route by a receiver or bad blocking. Now, from what I’ve seen, I believe he did not agree on the play calling. Kurt was not the type of guy who would put a fellow player’s job on the line.
I remember that Warner stopped arguing and yelling when he began to change all the plays at the line of srimmage.
If this team goes 8-8 or worse, I think the curtain has been pulled on the “Whizard” and shown him to be, not all that good. In fact, without Warner doing the thinking and play calling I expect him to resign. He seems to be in over his head.
That was the weak part of your story, very little blame on the head coach. If this is a well coached team, it would not look as if: Warner was missing, the starting O-Line was missing, the starting D-line was missing, the starting D-Backs were missing, the starting RBs were missing, the play calling for Offense and Defense was being handled by a 13 year old gamer playing “Madden 2008”.
I could be wrong but the score says I may be onto something.
Hey Whiz, if you are not up to the challenge, admit it to yourself and step down! If on the other hand you know what you are doing, put us back into the playoffs. That is the test for NFL coaches. Simple!
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 8:36 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did Whiz get into a hot tub with your daughter?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
haha
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Worse!
The hot tub water turned blue, it was the coach living up to his name “Whiz”.
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 4, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Have you seen our schedule.
No way we go 8-8. We have 5 division games left. This is a good thing as our division is by the worst in the league. Still, we may get 3 more wins. It looks like this
New Orleans: Uh no. L
Bye; at least we can’t lose.
@ Seattle: Improved Seattle team on the road. L
Tampa: We have a shot but Tampa is improved as well. L
@ Minnesota: They’ll be hitting there stride. L
Seattle. Should be able to eke this one out. W
@ Kansas City. Another improved team on the road. L
San Fran. Show be up for this game and The Whiners may be worse than us. W
St. Louis. Another eke out win. Let’s hope Bradford hasn’t improved that much by then. W
Denver. Improved team with a lot to prove. L
@ Carolina. East coast game. L
Dallas. The boys are back in town. L
@ San Fran. They’ll want their revenge. L
By my count that is 5-11. That is a worst case scenario if things don’t change. I have some faith in this team and our coach. We have not scene this kind of emergency since Whiz came on board so we will see how he and the rest of the team responds. It really is on him to make some changes. Whether it is personnel, scheme, or attitude something needs to change. We need to put up a decent performance next week or this could be a long season (and those of us that have been here since the beginning have suffered plenty of those). Help us Obi-Whiz-Kenobi. You’re our only hope.
by Suns Fan For Life on Oct 4, 2010 7:58 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Be nice.
I did not want to burst the bubble of the “Whiz” club members. I agree, I also predicted 5-11 after week 3. I was just trying to be kind.
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 4, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm calling
Your nursing home…Whiz gets a full three pathetic seasons, before I call for his head..
Max Hall
I really hope we go with Hall for the rest of the season, it’ll at least make the games bearable.
The Max Hall era has begun
Something has to be done with the O-Line too. Grimm has to be held accountable too, he is supposed to be some kind of O-Line guru and this is how the “deepest O-Line we have ever had” preforms? Billy Davis has to be on the hot seat as well.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Whiz sounds like he is pissed
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
He also said he won't decide who the starter is until he watches the tape.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Well, I don't want to hear the crap he's been dishing the last 4 weeks in the post-game
I want to hear an apology – I want to hear how embarrassed they are – again….
What I don’t want to hear is “The score is not indicative of some of the positive things I saw out there. We made some mistakes and you just can’t do that and win football games” or some BS like that….
KTAR
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
If Max Hall starts next week
What happens to DA? He’ll probably get cut, because we’ve seen what happens when he starts, but will we really go with two rookie QB’s?
Stay on as the backup.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Maybe we could trade him for a toothbrush
to wash the awful aftertaste of the season-so-far from our mouths…
by tw3kr on Oct 3, 2010 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agree with everything you said
I was wondering earlier today how it is that we have great individual defenders, but somehow give up so many yards and points. It all points to Davis.
Fans on here(me included) trusted whisenhut more than they liked or thought anderson was good. Even then, we all said give it a few games… Well it has been for abysmal games for the o-line and anderson… Simply put anderson is not an NFL QB.. NO Leinart wouldnt be better, It is just comparing two equally smelly turds and deciding which one you wanna eat cuz you have a gun to your head.
Something has to be done. Not saying max hall is the answer, but if we’re gonna lose, might as well develop our young QB… Also, we need to pick up a franchise qb in the draft..
It is only because of dumb luck that we are at .500 because both the wins should have been losses. The sky isnt falling, and I wont be jumping on any other teams bandwagon, but it is frustrating to see such a huge fall off from last year…
To be fair, the OL gets in over its head in games like this
When we get so far behind, defenders know we’re going to throw it, so they can focus solely on pass-rushing. Part of an offensive line’s success will come from keeping a defense off-balance with some runs and play-calling.
Coaches arent the savior
born and raised. this team is a joke. bad defense, a bad quarterback and stupid penalties. the real cardinal fans remember this team. whisenhunts ego is killin this team. beanie is obiously the better runner but hightower starts. brandon keith is getting smoked weekly and there are experienced tackles on the roster. all you anderson supporters, tell me with a straight face leinart could be worse. mabye not better, but worse? who woulda thought we woulda longed for the clancy days?
by Redbird Nation #1 on Oct 3, 2010 5:52 PM MDT reply actions
it is so easy to criticize
heavily after a blow out, and blame everything we praise when things go our way.
granted, the team on the whole, coaches and players had a horrible game.
despite that, and despite the fact that this is the second ugly blowout loss in 3 weeks time, look at it this way: D.A. was never a sure thing. He was a roll of the dice. Equally, Leinart was a roll of the dice (hoped he would turn into what he wasn’t and it didn’t happen just like D.A.)
Hell, Max Hall is a roll of the dice. We don’t know what going to happen, but he earned the chance to try today and I’m glad for it.
As far as Bill Davis, yeah it was really ugly, but just remember, there are a lot of new faces out there. We all love to praise Adrian Wilson but he had a bad game. Joey Porter looked like he should have reitred. the list goes on.
2-2 and haven’t played a good game yet.
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
A-DUB's second bad game in a row.
He needs to rebound vs NO
Wilson looked lost!!!!!
He is not doing very good covering TE’s. Miller burned him last week. Shockey made him look horrible last year. So by my count, that’s 3 out of the last 5 games..
He needs to change his pads and move to LB. That way he still gets to stay near the line and if he gets burned by a WR or TE, its understandable.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Oct 3, 2010 7:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
A TE running a seam route should roughly split a two-deep safety coverage right down the middle
Exactly the offensive call to beat the defense. That’s what happened on that first Gates TD. Remember that Fitz TD where we took the lead in the super-bowl? Split the safeties, run like mad.
and whats up with DRC?
this season his reputation as a Pro Bowler looks like all hype…I am ready for him to turn his athleticism = great player but so far it seems like he is regressing.
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
by Undrafteds on Oct 4, 2010 6:51 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
the team didn't look prepaired
and at the end of the day thats on the coaches
… whiz comment after the game pretty telling “I thought we were better than that”
by quid pro quo on Oct 3, 2010 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
You say Leinart was a roll of the dice. I don't think we ever saw whatnumber came up
In preseason he was given very little opportunity before he was shipped out. All I know is he looked a lot better than DA has vs TN last year and other games before as well.
by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 3, 2010 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions
disagree
Leinart had ample time to prove he was an effective NFL starting QB, and it didn’t pan out.
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
is a handful of series during the preseason "ample" time to prove anything?
by Steamin' Beamin' on Oct 4, 2010 6:51 AM MDT up reply actions
no, but
4 seasons is.
besides, Leinart is a Texan, we need to lay this topic to rest
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
I agree it's tired and done.
I was just responding to Andrew’s comment. The thing is, I really hoped DA would be good and I would be all wrong but “he is who we thought he is”.
by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 4, 2010 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
DA vs.
IMO DA should start next week. The change should be made at O-line and not at QB. With Max Hall as QB, he didnt get a chance to throw at all as he got sacked 6 times. I agree DA got 2 picks but at least at the end of the game Fitz would have got a TD. DA can take the team down the field. I also think after Fitz’s calling for more catches, the team tried to force too many throws his way. That should not be the case. DA for one more week and hope the bye week can rescue us.
Throw to tight ends
I liked Hall’s throw to tight ends. We clearly need more of those; from the starting QB who ever it is
The problem is
DA seemed to regress today. Maybe if he’d made some progress from last game, the he’d be fine, but he didn’t. He was worse. We’ve been hearing all week about how he wants to improve and how he’s going to improve, but he’s not.
Let’s just wait for Coach Whiz to decide on who’s the starter, and go on from there. But one thing was sure from this game: Changes need to be made, and fast.
DA
I can really live with his 50% completion rate. It is when he throws a pick, especially with no receiver in that zipcode, that is when I get pissed
I guess after watching Kurt Warner play for two years
We’ve gotten spoiled. But still, DA is really playing like one of the worst QB’s in the league. I really can’t name a QB who’s done any worse. Fine, there might be a few, but most at least have scored some TD’s.
Maybe calling him one of the worst QB’s is a little drastic, but I just want some answers. The team sounds angry, but that’s not enough. Like I said, let’s wait for who the starting QB is, and go from there.
Q missing is huge too, and not mentioned enough … he was a versatile player that brought toughness
lets face it … it was Warner, Q, and Fitz that made us dynamic (Fitz did look good at times;)
by quid pro quo on Oct 3, 2010 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions
some of the sacks were on Hall
He’s not comfortable back there and doesn’t want to make a mistake. Consequently, he doesn’t want to risk throwing an INT, so some of the sacks occurred when he should’ve gotten rid of the ball. But that’s what will happen with Hall in there as he learns the ropes….Its all ugly…
I'll take a sack over a pick any day
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Oct 3, 2010 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree, but....
learning curve – THROW THE BALL AWAY!!!
Defensive mistakes as well
it’s like they had no idea about A. Gates … no one on the Cards must play FF (or they all had gates on their team)
by quid pro quo on Oct 3, 2010 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
And most of them were from him having no time at all to throw
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Oct 3, 2010 7:15 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Excuse the rookie
But load up on the veteran. DA gave us scoring drives. I will go with him for one more week.
Week?
I believe it is spelled “w-e-a-k”, but it sounds like “W-h-i-z”.
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
hater
I am sure your tune sounded a little different last year when we got to 10-6? or how about the Super bowl year, how did you like Coach then?
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
What?!?!
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
LMAO
I think last week I said “Stunned”. With you on this one Joe. The bonus with AZRet is that he makes me laugh after closing my fly-catching, jaw scraping the floor mouth, unlike the the bitter vitriol from HardHat.
"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."
lol
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Derek Anderson starting means a loss
Is anyone else troubled by the fact that Arizona could easily be 0-4? In week 1, the blocked field goal against the Rams proved to be the difference. In week 3, they lost because Janikowski choked. The two other games they’ve played, they’ve been demolished.
The biggest problem is that the offense can’t sustain any drives. This is a team that’s meant to play while they are ahead, so they can run the ball and eat up the clock. Playing from behind is not something they’re good at. Whenever a team gets a big lead on the Cardinals, everyone gives up. This goes back to the divisional round of the playoffs last year too- which was coincidentally against the Saints, who the Cards have to play at home.
I am a big Arizona fan, I really am, but if the defense keeps playing like the way it did today then you can expect Drew Brees to put up 35 points in the first half and then just have the Saints running backs add on another 14 while the Cardinals offense struggles. This team has got to get it together.
Who?
I’d like to know who put D.A. in at QB in the first place. That dumb shit should get the ax!
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Totally agree.
If Bill Davis doesn’t get this D’s shit together, then I think Donnie Henderson could step up and assume that role. The D besides Toler, Rhodes, and average run defense in the 2nd half, was PATHETIC. Did they know they were supposed to play today? The O-line was atrocious, nuff said. I think Hall adds a spark to the offense, if you go by what the players were saying about him in the preseason then it seems like he’s a guy they support and could actually rally around. He didn’t do too much today, but he didn’t turn it over and he has a little thing called ACCURACY. That immediately makes him an uprgrade over Anderson, and I think Hall is smart enough to pick the game up kind of fast. We just have to see if he can take a real hit. I’m ready for Bridges and Hadnot to replace Faneca and Keith. Faneca is a good run blocker, but his pass protection sucks, and I think Keith needs to learn how to finish blocks and play more aggresive. Bridges has attitude and heart, Keith looks like a big floppy cock out there, and Hadnot is supposed to be a pretty good guard, but I haven’t seen him play much. Hopefully when he’s able to play, Hayes can shore up that run D. I hope Schofield can provide a spark to the pass rush.
Now that I’m done with my rant, who all is in favor of establishing the acronym “DA” as short for Dirty Anus? Maybe just straight up Dumb Ass?
by lifeinthepit00 on Oct 3, 2010 6:27 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Derrick Horse Balls Swagtangibles Dirty Anus Dumb Ass Anderception
by YoungCardsFanatic on Oct 3, 2010 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about----
Dirty Anus and his butt buddy and rider, Whiz from Steel Town.
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whiz won't fire Davis....
Davis should be held accountable, and I never thought I’d see myself saying Clancy had a better plan, but HE DID!!
But Whiz won’t fire Davis…Let’s remember…Whiz got rid of Clancy and promoted Davis…He’s not going to get rid of his guy during the season just like he’s not going to do anything about Grimm.
Agreed, but crazier things have happened.
How many games can the D play like that before a change has to be made? The “bend but don’t break” defense held up last year when we had an offense to keep them off the field, but with all the let -downs on that side of the ball, they’ve become a ‘snap, crackle, pop’ D. lol
But they do have a lot of new players, so there will be an adjustment period, but I give Davis until the end of the season before Henderson gets promoted. And a real OC would help out the offense, instead of this run game/ passing game coordinators and Whiz calling plays.
by lifeinthepit00 on Oct 3, 2010 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions
that would be nice
I hope they get it figured it out. I don’t want to be doing this every week…..
I second that notion. lol
1st move, keep Dumb Ass benched!
by lifeinthepit00 on Oct 3, 2010 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Gotta say that when Clancys's D was healthy....
We were great. When injuries forced us into depth last year we had problems. It wasn’t the scheme it was the depth that killed us
by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 3, 2010 11:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Executive decision.
Maybe we will get lucky and Whiz will fire himself!
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Credit for persistance.
lmdao!
"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."
Here is my $.02...
Donnie Henderson at DC.
Get a true OC so that Whiz can manage the entire game.
Get Bridges in there.
Commit to a defense. We still don’t run a true 3-4. Our Dline lines up in gaps to penetrate instead of head to head to draw double teams. This would allow the LBs to attack.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Oct 3, 2010 6:51 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
totally agree on Bridges
not sure what the hold-up is other than, they want to “prove the critics wrong”
The critics are laughing at our line…
Manage?
Whiz could not manage a one car funeral procession!
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bears O-Line almost looks as bad as ours
10 min left in the first half, and Cutler has already been sacked 5 times.
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Oct 3, 2010 7:20 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Now its 9 sacks
First half just ended too…
Unbelievable.
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by JoeCB1991 on Oct 3, 2010 7:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Coaching staff
Whiz’s staff is broken hearted, they were hoping to win but only farted!
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bill Davis
Is the evil right now. Next is the OL. The QB position comes after. So while I do not support DA, I don’t believe he’s anywhere close to our main problem. All I will say is that maybe he is a slow learner. But I have no basis for that thought. Hall did play better. I’m just confused and discontent right now so maybe I’ll post something more useful next week.
SHhhhhh!
Don’t mention Whiz! His hands are clean!
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
It still amazes me ....
That many Az fans cheered when Leinart was cut and now we are stuck with two rookie backups and a “experienced” QB Anderson whose QB rating is lower than 90% of the NFL QB’s, including the backups who have had to step it (Batch – Steelers). It is amazing that had the kept him as a back-up (they got no value for him at all), he would be able to at least manage the offense and move the chains without turning over the ball with Int’s and 3 and outs!
Wiz is not genius…he just tries to act like one. Todd Haley was the mastermind of the “O” that made the super-bowl run…. and his team is now 3-0, in the second year…
"If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant: if we did not sometimes taste of adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome."
+1
I was missing Todd Haley after the first game of last season. We ended up being okay, and Todd Haley seemed off his rocker on bad KC team. But I think our terrific offense was 2 parts Kurt Warner and 1 part Todd Haley. With both of them gone its exposing all of our flaws
Is a Joke??
We had all kinds of plans for Gates today," he said, "but that run gets on you, and as soon as you start trying to (stop that), all of a sudden Gates is singled up. Then you start playing something for Gates, and the run gets on you.
did he really say this???
oh, there is no way….these guys just need to learn to keep their mouths shut…they just make it worse with RHETORIC…I don’t want to hear a bunch of justified BS….
Basically
We can’t stop either one.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
then resign!!
Davis is worthless…You have to wonder what type of preparation went into this game…
What’s he going to say next week…
“well, that’s why they’re the Super Bowl champs…They’ve got a lot of weapons, and its so hard to know where they will hit you……blah, blah, blah…”
Davis?
How about his boss,Whiz? No blame goes to him?
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Enough.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Oct 3, 2010 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Over on Bolts from the blue I said Gates would be a problem
We made no adjustment for him. DA continues to be disturbingly bad and I’m very concerned for the season.
by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 3, 2010 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Still
If we had been sitting back in zones (Tennessee last year) and given up plays, we’d be bitching because we’re not blitzing enough.
As usual, we blitz because we don’t get enough pressure in standard fronts and play-calls. Look at all the OLB’s we burned through this year — it’s not like we didn’t try to address it. Our pass-rush sucks, our coverages break down, we lose to everything.
Whizard of Id!
How about asking Warner if he would take over the Head Coaching position? The Cards have TV studios full of options to replace Whiz. They could also look at assistants in the NFL or coaches in the College ranks. Heck, I’ve got a 13 yr. old nephew that plays “Madden ’08” like a pro, he’d take the job, but only if, like Whiz, no blame was heaped upon him.
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 8:54 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Russ Grimm needs to be re-evaluated as a offensive line mastermind
Our pass protection has been nothing short of horrendous. I’ll give him credit for a very respectable 5.8 yd avg on rush attempts this season, but our running game hasn’t ever really looked dominant enough to control a football game. Especially when we’ll likely need a lot of points to keep up with opponents considering our defensive efforts. I think the fact that he is “running game coordinator” is also possibly some sort of conflict of interest. Pass protection schemes clearly aren’t his top priority. It shows, and it’s killing us.
It’s also easy to say that we just lack talented players on the line, but Grimm has been here for 3 years now, which is plenty of time to make this line his. 4/5 starters were brought in under his watch. The only current starter who he inherited was Lutui, who I think has probably been the most solid performer this year.
I think Grimm has been built up in everyone’s mind as some sort of infallible genius because the media says so, he’s in the Hall of Fame, and he’s buddy buddy with Whiz. But I don’t see it showing on the field at all from a pass protection standpoint. Warner hid a lot of those deficiencies with a quick release, but he was a one of a kind QB. I personally don’t think Whiz would make a change, even if he felt Grimm wasn’t doing an adequate job because they are too good of friends. I think the only chance of Grimm leaving would be to be picked up by another team as a head coach. I am obviously hoping that I am proven wrong, our O-line gets its shit together, and our offense starts rolling, but I just haven’t seen too many positives so far.
by Phil7178 on Oct 3, 2010 8:55 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
He is no mastermind..
Hes an o-line coach, who happens to be tight with the Coach….“running game coordinator”???
I’ve never understood this, other than it appears to be a ‘good old boy’ network..
You’re right – Whiz won’t make a move on Grimm…
I think some of these coaches need to step up and take responsibility…
Some?
How about the entire coaching staff. The Cardinals owners should bring in a professional Head Coach and let him bring his own staff!
by Arizona Retiree on Oct 3, 2010 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
You just repeated the same exact thing in about 10 posts
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I like the idea of Hall taking over now
He’ll have the New Orleans game as an introduction, which should help him learn how to prepare as a starter and give him more exposure to the NFL game. Instead of waiting for the bye to install him, it will allow Hall to work out some of the jitters, take some (more) hits, make some (more) rookie mistakes, and probably lose a game that we’re not supposed to win anyway. That will be the lowest-pressure scenario I can think of. I think this would give us a better chance to be ready for the long-haul, when we come back from the bye and resume our glorified slap-fight against the rest of the division.
If DA starts again next week I won’t be any more disappointed than I am now, but I really hope that we get to see something that indicates it will be worth it.
Tomorrow
I don’t really feel like looking through all of that right now.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Im sure you'll find some gems
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
end of a good run
were back in rebuilding mode, defense gives up huge plays and well, so does the offense. max hall was a good passer in college so he should continue to get the snaps for the rest of the year. anderson should be cut at the end of the year and even now, go get jeff garcia from ufl shit.. i’ll take even culpepper because they’re far more impressive than anderson has ever been in his career. we’re looking at a top pick, its gotta be qb, or lb. please god tell this organization that they need help everywhere but there oline. they draft olineman or running backs that arent realy that good. beanie wells, give me a break howlings is better. same with deusch hightower. everyone talks how good he is in the redzone. i’m 6’4, 210. i can run in from the 2 yard line if you hand me the ball, good god. time to rebuild, i’m a loyal fan , have been since 1993. We had are run. See that run again in 20 years lol.
Everyone needs to stop freaking out
Watch, next week we have a strong showing and beat the Saints, and everyone will be back on the bandwagon.
Bring back the Baltimore Chop!
by dima1109 on Oct 3, 2010 10:40 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I’m not sure about things turning around by next week but it does get very old listening to most of the fans go into a full blown panic attack every time we lose. We want Haley back (brilliant, he went 4-12 last year and yet they call for Whiz to be gone after starting 2-2). We want Pendergast back (can’t remember anyone saying that when he got fired). Warner made us look so much better (not until the the latter half of 2007, after he’d been here for 2 1/2 years). We should have seen what Leinart could do (we tried that many times before, and I can see the rest of the league really agrees with that thought). Then we go from that to the totally inane, “I can run in from the 2 yard line.” Right, that’s all we’re missing – why didn’t our scouts think to recruit from the blog site?
Having said all that the frustration is understandable if not even close to being logically expressed. I will say the one idea that has some merit is a change at QB. I agreed with Leinart being benched when he couldn’t move the offense, so obviously the same standard applies to anyone else who doesn’t either. We can’t keep letting teams get away with blown coverages – I think this offensive unit could look good if they’d give themselves a chance to play ahead instead of always from behind. Someone else mentioned that we should consider going back to a 4-3 on defense. Can’t say I completely disagree with that thought – our personnel still just doesn’t seem to be matching the scheme.
Whatever happens, I know this for a fact – Ken Whisenhunt is more qualified to get it fixed than anyone else who has ever called the shots from our sideline. So go ahead bandwagoneers, talk all the shit that lingers in your empty heads while you can. There is still a whole bunch of season left to play. We’ll see where everyone stands when the smoke clears.
by Long Beach on Oct 3, 2010 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Beach, I've said all along
I don’t think Whiz gave Leinart a full shot. Having said that, the O line is a disaster. D line equally is a dissapointment just because I had such high hopes.
by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 3, 2010 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions
O lines are consistently double teaming Dockett
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
This may sound a little crazy
but what are your thoughts about converting the defense to a base 5-2?
Dockett
Was getting bullied yesterday…Plus let’s not forget people…San D has looked TERRIBLE the first month of the season…Watch them go on an 8-10 win streak now…
Actually they looked pretty good.
Near the top in both offense and defense. It was their special teams that cost them games. They could as easily be 4-0 as we could be 0-4.
Leinart
Hard ample opportunities to take the reigns and run with them….
Nose Tackles DB'S and QB'S
Has the kid from Tennessee (williams) started or played in any games this year?
When comparing Hall to Skelton just how much better mentally and physically is Hall
than Skelton? Is Skelton better than Anderson? He can’t be worse could he? Is ther anyone on the roster that could replace Michael Adams and actually be a improvement?
Dan Williams played in the first three games.
He was deactivated for the Chargers game reportedly due to not making weight.
Hall is a lot more pro ready than Skelton
Physically, Skelton has all the tools but mentally there is a lot of ground to cover after coming out of a small school like Fordham. Has DA pretty much sucked up to this point? Unfortunately, yes. But putting Skelton in way before he’s ready won’t change what is going on. I’m guessing we’ll get a chance to see what Hall can do, I think the Whiz has witnessed one too many open TD’s missed by DA to want to see it any longer.
This is my area of concern and I hope you're right. I think the D gets deflated when they see that TD missed. I know they're professionals but anyone would be disappointed when those opportunities go for nil.
We have a ton of issues right now in all phases of the game but I’m still optimistic for the season. It’s a team game and right now the struggles in one aspect I believe are affecting the others resulting in a tail spin. So… What I’m ultimately saying is we need productive consistency in one phase and I think the rest will follow.
Bears vs Giants sunday night.
Both defenses were killing the opponent. Chicago’s offense was completely inept. The Giants managed a couple good drives late in the game. It puts the lie to one phase affecting another. If our defense allows the failure of the offense to affect their play then they are simply not being professional. I might expect that from a college team but not at this level. It’s just not acceptable. I think the troubles on defense go way beyond this though. I don’t believe they are laying down because of the offense.
I think there is an effect on everyone when the team is struggling and an easy TD plummets to the ground
but to your point, no, I don’t think that’s the “D” problem right now either. I don’t think the 3-4 does anything except expose our weaknesses. I get that they’ve built it up with that scheme in mind, but if there is one thing I’d like to see changed it’s that. The league obviously has seen something in the film, in our last 6 games (not counting preseason, of course) we’ve given up over 40 points in 4 of them. Combine that with our Pro Bowl defenders suddenly looking very average and it screams for a change.
Something is very wrong
My point is that although that sort of thing is demoralizing it shouldn’t affect their performance on the field. Not at this level. The Bears showed it sunday night and there are countless examples anyone could point to where a team rode it’s defense.
You’re right about our defense being sussed out. There is more problem than just players blowing assignments. They have been outplayed but worse they’ve been outplanned and outcoached.
I agree with the point you made
I was just piggybacking on it to make the point that the 3-4 alignment we’re in right now is making us unbelievably vulnerable defensively right now. But no defense is going to be comfortable if they don’t think their offense can hold up their end of the bargain.
Of course, good luck in figuring out which has been worse so far.
Where is Will Davis?
Why is he taking a back seat to Porter and Haggans right now??? Also we signed this kid Alex Hall at OLB why aren’t we seeing some youth in the games? That would be my initial changes along with benching Robinson….time for Watson/Williams combo.
by Punisher3190 on Oct 3, 2010 11:30 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I will echo that idea - Robinson just isn't a 3-4 NT
I still don’t know what Williams weighed, but after his play against Oakland it better have been something inexcusable. This is the one issue that does have me biting my tongue about the decisions made for this game.
Williams
was 329 when he was supposed to be 327…I dont agree with that benching considering he could probably spent 5 minutes on a toilet and weigh in at 327
They did.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Okay, what's done is done, time to move on but seriously?
Like CardsFan said, let him go take a shit next time. Even the UFC has a 1 pound leeway for their fighters. As anyone who has read my posts knows, I’ll defend the Whiz to the bitter end but benching Williams over that is senseless.
It may well have been just the public answer.
It could be he just wanted to give Watson some game time or was ticked off at Williams for something else entirely.
In fairness to the staff
I just read Urban’s story on it, and I get it. If the other two came under their weight and Williams didn’t (however minor) you have to show consistency. A win against New Orleans will help put us all back in the right frame of mind.
I know a win would fix my head in a hurry!
Not holding my breath though.
by Birdman from Mesa on Oct 4, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Max Hall outplaying Drew Brees
would put me in the right frame of mind. First I think I need to locate the frame, then unmangle it before getting back in.
That would be awesome
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Will Davis did get some time in at the end and looked good.
Those are the changes I would like to see too, more rotation at OLB and Watson / Williams at NT. Anyone know anything about Alex Hall? They desperately need to find a pass rusher and figure out how to stop the run. The’re getting blown off the line and the LBs are out of position to make a play. With Daryl Washington’s speed I would have expected him to be in more pass coverage than Paris Lenon too.
Defensive Letdown
I was watching the game at Qualcomm today and I lost count the # of times screens passes were thrown for first downs. I defense was constantly yielding first downs to screen passes and long pass plays. It was like watching a high school football game it was so bad. The only good thing that happened today was seeng Max Hall play and having the 49ers and Seahawks both lose. How many times do the Cardinals need to get blown out a season (2 and counting for 2010). It’s time to get rid of Billy Davis and any vestiges of the old regime. Not sure who/what the answer is, but this defense stinks and I don’t think it’s the talent, but the calls being made.
I was at the Q too
the two plays that really stood out to me were medium posts to Gates and bubble screens to the fullbacks. I think Rivers only threw to a wide receiver twice all game, and he had ~250 yds passing. Gates is a beast, I get it, but there had to be something we could have done against him. The thing that killed the game pretty much from the start on the defensive side was the play calling on third down, on both sides of the ball. We had success containing the inside runs early, but it only lasted until Norv figured out that he just needs to go to his cash cow and milk it all the way to the bank (and 144 yds/2 TDs for #85 show he did the right thing). Also, the words “good opening drive” are a blasphemy. There was ONE pass to Fitz that was on target, the rest were either underthrown and required an adjustment on his part, or just awful like the INT. I was also happy to finally see Max in the game, but boy did he take a beating! The insisted on throwing to Williams for some reason, which promptly showed us that he is far from ready to produce at this level.
Bring back the Baltimore Chop!
Best line from our game:
Announcer 1: Max Hall isn’t getting it done, they need to put Derek Anderson back in.
Announcer 2: Why?
Announcer 1: Because….he’s played in the NFL…
I agree with tw3kr and Long Beach. Start Hall. He can only do better than D.A. (choose your own meaning) especially against the Saints. Gives him more experience before the bye and into a huge game at Seattle. Beanie needs to get into the game sooner. Replace some underachieving veterans with younger players who are hungry to play, that might get someone riled up. Davis needs to be fired or have his mouth duct taped or something. Our team has to much talent to lose like that.
Tomlin VS Whiz "I Don't get it."
When Pittsburgh chose Mike Tomlin over Whiz, I was thinking, “What are they thinking?” Here’s Tomlin with a Super Bowl Ring, and 3-1 without his QB…WHile Whiz has a Super Bowl Loss, no QB is 2-2 with his team headed towards Oblivion. Jeez. I been a BIG RED FAN Since the 60’s back in St. Louis. I’ll love this team to the grave, but for the life of me, I don’t understand why Whiz didn’t go out and get a Premier QB (McNabb) to replace Kurt. Or why he didn’t trade for Michael Vick, or CHase Daniel to give us a shot. The moral in the locker room sucks. Our defensive Coordinador sucks. Everyone is frightened to take any Cardinals on their Fantasy Football teams (I’m in 24 leages), and even Derek Anderson is no contest to being the worse QB in the league. WHIZ, if you are reading this: “WAKE UP MAN!” You’re supposed to be the genius. Not be biased, not show favorites (YOUR DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR), not be a woos or a wimp. Your supposed to get the Team together ready to face the Saints with a QB. I SAY JOHN SKELTON. Sorry, Max, and Derek, but Skelton has a rocket arm, is tall, and with a few games he could be GREAT. Other options, Garcia? I don’t know, maybe that guy Buffalo let go? This just sucks. Maybe find the BEST QB from the Arena LEAGUE and get him in Uniform, as the way things are going, we are looking at 2-14, with 12 more losses to come. WHIZ, I’m shocked that you can’t compete like your bud TOMLIN Does. YOU can’t run this team LIKE PITTSBURGH. YOU can’t bring a bunch of let go, has been PITT Players in here to run the Cardinals. YOU NEED TO BREAK THE MOLD and be a MAN, be innovative and do the right thing. GET A QB, A GOOD QB, from the Arena League or CANADA, fast! OTHERWISE, the season is gone, and no amount of choice, risk, or reasoning to play a has been like Derek, a short Noob Like MAX, or risk 2-14 training SKELTON will help. THE MORAL of the team would be increased if we had an OFFENSE. THE LINE Would block for a Better QB. THE DEFENSE WILL Play better if we had a LEADER. DO SOMETHING WHIZ, or the season is lost. TO THINK the 9ers are 0-4 and we have NOTHING To win with, NOTHING.
NUFF SAID. WHIZ, DO SOMETHING..
FARLEY
haha, I called it during the preseason
I knew the cards would regret their decision with ML. DA was the worst starting QB for the last two years. there’s no way he was going to turn it around. at least keep ML for a few games and then sub DA. why paint yourself in a corner!!! you honestly think it’s going to get any better with DA?? anyhow, i wrote this the week there was talks of ML being traded and I said by week 4 or 5 they were going to bench DA.
so having two ineffective veteran QBs is better than one?
Leinart sucks. D.A. sucks. Ready to move on and give someone else a chance.
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
Calm down everyone, and think
Quarterback
1) I agree that we need to start Max Hall. I never understood the whole supporting Anderson idea that started around training camp, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is what we do now and it is obvious that Anderson cannot improve on accuracy.
2) Since, our best player (arguably) Fitz is unable to get the ball the quarterback needs to be changed. Also, Max Hall is better mentally than John Skelton, but Skelton is better physically for those who are confused. That is why Max Hall is better now. However, for those screaming for a “franchise QB” in the next draft, look at the Coaching Staff’s philosophy, draft a small school QB who has the potential to become a franchise QB, a la, Ben Roethlisberger and groom then into the QB they want. So, we have that potentially in John Skelton. Thus, our next draft will address another position.
3) Finally, Max Hall spent the game passing to who he knows which is Williams. He spent all this time till yesterday working with the second and third teams, so don’t expect him to come out swinging and throwing TD’s to Fitz. Those can come with time, if he continues to start.
Coaching
1) Whisenhunt’s philosophy is to have a power running game and then a passing game. When he came to the Cardinals we had neither. So, instead of having our team gutted (Rams) and suck for a few years, we happened to be blessed with a Hall of Fame QB falling into our laps and regaining his old form. We tweaked our offense to be pass first and went at it for a few seasons. Now we don’t have that luxury. We still are in between rebuilding and contender now and we are trying this backwards. Look at the Rams they draft a QB and will build around him. Well, we had a QB and a team, now we need to change to what the coaching staff originally wanted, a power running game, complemented with passing.
2) Bill Davis isn’t the anti-christ. Look we knew are team was deficient at LB we have drafted young players like Will Davis, Daryl Washington, Alex Hall, and O’Brien Schofield, to groom into that. The same reason why we have Porter, Lenon, and Haggans. Is to help train these younger players, that takes a year or two though.
Lines
1) O-Line sucked and something needs to happen, whether it’s personnel changes or them starting to act cohesively. Also, they aren’t exactly the youngest bunch, so that maybe where we look at next year’s draft. I also believe if Hall plays and he is more accurate that allows are running game to open up, which is what I believe this line is built for, power running.
2) The D-Line sucked, yes. However, stop calling for Bryan Robinson’s head. He isn’t built for the 3-4, but for the past few years he has been the best option and that is saying something. If some of you are forgetting, our 1st round pick was sat out because of missing his weight goal. That might have affected us just a little bit. Anyways, Gabe Watson, isn’t the answer, just depth, that has been proven over the past years.
Chargers
1) Finally, we played the Chargers, yes they haven’t started off well this year, but they never start well. Only to pick up speed crash into the playoffs and win at least one or two. They are not a bad team, they just act like one for the first 3-4 games each season. So, don’t think we just played the Rams (oh, wait, that was actually a close game wasn’t it?). Should we have gotten smashed, no, but we did, let’s see what the coach’s do and understand that the Coaching Staff can never be as bad as the 49ers.
However, for those screaming for a "franchise QB" in the next draft, look at the Coaching Staff’s philosophy, draft a small school QB who has the potential to become a franchise QB, a la, Ben Roethlisberger and groom then into the QB they want. So, we have that potentially in John Skelton. Thus, our next draft will address another position.
You do realize that Ben R was the 11th overall pick in his draft and that was lower than most thought he would go. Skelton was a 5th round pick. There is a huge difference between the two.
by Steamin' Beamin' on Oct 4, 2010 6:50 AM MDT reply actions
You do realize
That has nothing to do with the post. I said not one word that Skelton is going to be our franchise QB just what history has shown to be true. Maybe I am wrong and we do pick a QB first round next year. But that is not the point of the entire post. So, congratualtions! You just pointlessly nitpicked!
And yes, I am aware of that Ben Roethlisberger was picked 11th.
by Handsome Bert on Oct 4, 2010 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
But
do you also think the OC has no input on a draft at all?! He may not have pulled the trigger, but he had influence. Especially, since he has shown to have the same philosophy in playing a football game as the Head Coach at the time, Bill Cowher.
by Handsome Bert on Oct 4, 2010 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I nitpicked? You tied Skelton and Ben R together simply b/c they were small school QB’s selected by a team that employed Whiz.
I don’t get it, either you’re saying that you believe Skelton is the QB of the future b/c he’s similar to Ben R or you just threw that comment in there for no reason at all, which is it?
by Steamin' Beamin' on Oct 4, 2010 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Probably not much
but before going any further, I have to say I liked your original post and agreed with pretty much all of it. The only reason I chimed in on the whole Ben/Skelton thing is because I think sometimes we start to combine what coaches did when it may not be connected at all.
However, I should have left it out because I’m nowhere near ready to start figuring out who our next draft pick may be. My gut says you’re right, that we don’t address it early next year as we’ll still be developing two other QB’s.
Again, while there are many on here I’ll argue with over what I consider to be very shortsighted posts, yours does not fall into that category at all.
Franchise QB
The pickle with drafting another QB is what do we do with the 2 rookies we have now. No way the team keeps Hall, Skelton and a first or second round draft pick. They would have to either keep DA or bring in another veteran back up. I’d bet we’re looking at at least 4 QB’s in camp again next summer. If they do draft an early round QB, which I figured they’d do next year anyway, I think Ryan Mallet of Arkansas fits the mold well. Not sure how well he’s rated but the games I’ve seen of him have been impressive. Hall really needs to be given a shot so we can see if he’s the guy or not in real games not preseason or camp. It’s too important to the future of the team to go back to DA now.
I don't get
it. Why is Leinart still mentioned? It’s over and done with. He’s not coming back, neither is Warner, and we’re still not trading for McNabb or Vick. Get over it for Christ’s sake.
This offensive line is abysmal. This line couldn’t protect anyone, much less a team that is down early and is starting a less than 100% Larry Fitzgerald and it’s other two top receivers are undrafted free agents. It’s not that hard to figure out.
Have some prospective for crying out loud. The number one offensive issue is the line, not the QB.
And Bill Davis sucks a bag of dicks.
Sorry
I will try not to dump on Whiz and his staff. You guys seem to get it that, in my opinion, the head coach on any team, in any league from pee-wee to pro is acountable for his teams play and record. I will put a big effort into reigning in my criticisim.
You still haven't responded to who has done better here
you mentioned bringing in a college coach without regard to how that experiment has worked out recently, then you talk about a recently retired QB with no coaching experience at any level, and finally you offer up a teenage Madden football “expert” and you wonder why you irritate us so much.
Before recommending a studio head coach (guessing that you’ll bring up Cowher, Gruden, Billick, etc.) keep in mind that in the history of the game no head coach has ever led two different franchises to Super Bowl wins, so unless that trend gets broken any of the above, historically speaking, won’t lead us to one either.
WORST IN NFL
Stats dont lie…..just terrible..was at game yesterday and felt like clown with my cards hat and shirt on..lot of card fans there and felt bad they traveled all that way and watched that pathetic performance…only good thing was i live in diego and did not have to make the drive back to the desert just like a drive of shame ass kicking coming back from vegas!!!
Ugly losses bring everyone out.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
btw, I forgot to say...
I also said that ML will end up kicking butt in houston when Schaub inevitably gets hurt and then cards fans are going to be saying what the heck, why did we not keep him again?!?! his rookie year is light years ahead of what DA is doing now or did for the last two years. you just had to give him a chance.
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