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Max Hall Officially Named Starting Quarterback

GLENDALE AZ - SEPTEMBER 02:  Quarterback Max Hall #6 of the Arizona Cardinals scrambles for a 6 yard touchdown against the Washington Redskins during the third quarter of the preseason NFL game at the University of Phoenix Stadium on September 2 2010 in Glendale Arizona. The Cardinals defeated the Redskins 20-10.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Its official, Derek Anderson is done as the Cardinals starter after struggling through the first four games, and the team is moving on to Max Hall for Sundays home game against the New Orleans Saints.


I'm not sure many of us were expecting anything like this to happen before the season began. The thoughts were that Matt Leinart would be the guy, and if he couldn't get it done Derek Anderson would be plugged in while either Max Hall or John Skelton would be on the bench as the potential Quarterbacks of the Future. But then you know what happened, Leinart is hanging out at some hot tub in Houston right now, Anderson got a couple of games to prove that he was still the guy who went to the Pro Bowl in 2007 but he couldn't get it done, and now an undrafted rookie (albeit one who I'd say is pretty good for someone who went undrafted) is the starter going into a matchup with the reigning Super Bowl champs.

I was pretty high on Hall before the draft since I saw a few of his games at BYU and he seemed like a smart kid who could at least be a dependable backup, and I was hoping to see the Cardinals draft him in the 5th or 6th round. I also never expected him to go undrafted and I'm happy to see that we got him and Skelton (who could be good after he gets some time to develop), but I also never expected to see one of them being thrown to the wolves this early.

Obviously, something had to be done. The offense is struggling, and something has to be done to put a spark into it. Hopefully, Hall can be the guy. I believe that he can be a good Quarterback in the NFL, he seems like someone who is smart enough to get used to the game quickly, he even said that everything is already starting to slow down for him when he plays after the Chargers game. And I am looking forward to seeing how he progresses over the season.

After the jump, a look at his college career with BYU, and some thoughts on him from the BYU blog on Sports Blog Nation, Vanquish The Foe.

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BYU Stats:

Max Hall
W-L
Attempts
Completions
Completion %
Yards
YPA
Touchdowns
Interceptions
QB Rating
2007
11-2
496
298
60.1%
3,848
7.8
26
12
137.7
2008
10-3
478
330
69.0%
3,957
8.3
35
14
156.8
2009
11-2
409
275
67.2%
3,560
8.7
33
14
160.1

 

Hall was pretty good in BYU, they went to a Bowl Game each year he was the starter (winning 2 of 3) and the biggest win I have found that he had looking at the schedules was a 14-13 upset of #3 ranked Oklahoma in the season opener of the 2009 season where he led a 16 play 78 yard drive (including a 4th down conversion) to take the lead. Of course, BYU is in the Mountain West Conference where the competition isn't as stiff as it is in conferences like the Pac 10 and the SEC, but he did play well in college in a solid program that had some good Quarterbacks go into the NFL like Jim MacMahon and Steve Young.

Now, lets take a look at what two people on the BYU Blog said about Max Hall:

killroyboy

"Max wasn’t the most amazing passer we’ve had at BYU (granted, we’ve had some amazing QBs), but he was stable as long as the going was good.

Here’s my take on the specific questions you asked:

1. Accuracy and Arm Strength
Hall was amazingly accurate on short (5-20 yards) passes, but as you guessed, his accuracy diminished as it went longer. I’d say anything over 35 yards was a toss-up. But if you’ve got someone to run under a long ball, he get it out there decently. John Beck had a stronger arm, but I think Max was much more accurate on short. Grade: B+

2. Mobility
He was much more of a pocket passer, but he had that internal clock that allowed him to step out when needed. He never liked to slide. Some might call that stupid, but he was such a fighter than he’d rather try to hit someone than slide or go out of bounds easily. Even with his fight, he wasn’t fast or agile. Grade: B-

3. Leadership
Here’s where Max made his mark. He was such a fiery guy that you couldn’t help but listen to the guy. His passion and fight was evident on (and sometimes off) the field. He demanded respect and people listened. Grade: A

4. Defenses
Like many pocket passers, he struggled when the defense was fast and gave him pressure. But he knows how to read the blitz and get the ball out. He really struggled when the DBs were very fast and covered our slower than normal receivers. I’m not the one to say that he struggled against a 4-3, 4-4 or whatever.

The biggest problem Max had was that once he got behind (which wasn’t often), he would force things. So when a team went ahead two touchdowns (which happens when going against a top 25 team), he fell apart. As evidenced by the score on his losses, it was difficult for him to settle down and put together a solid come-back from more than 2 touchdowns. But if it was close, he could put together that final drive to finish them off (see BYU vs Utah in 2009).

Overall, Max is a solid QB. To be honest, I’m surprised he is in the running for the starting spot in his rookie season. Not because he isn’t capable, but because too often the NFL is all about size and speed and Max doesn’t have either.

Once he learns to settle down when he’s down by a few TDs, he will be a great QB. Hopefully he has a chance to learn that in AZ. The Cardinals are now one of the (very) few NFL teams I care to follow."

"I sat 16 rows up for Max’s entire career at BYU and the guy was just a winner. EVERY SINGLE GAME we went into with him as the starter, I honestly thought we were going to win. He played with more guts and passion than just about any starting quarterback I’ve ever watched for so long in person. He just keeps coming and coming and coming. He never gives up. I’m not surprised he’s a QB so soon in the NFL; I’m surprised the Cardinals didn’t have QBs in the cupboard behind Warner and have to throw a rookie to the wolves. I hope Max survives. He had an average arm, but was deadly accurate, and he was a pretty good scrambler. Great pocket sense. He loves to throw to skill – he will lock into the best players on the field (Austin Collie, Dennis Pitta, Harvey Unga) and always knows where they are on every play and finds ways to get the ball to them. Larry Fitzgerald will become his favorite target."

 

If anyone else from the BYU Blog has anything to add later, I'll post it here.

So, how do you feel about Max Hall becoming the starter for now, and what do you think of what the guys from the BYU Blog had to say about him?

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Do you think Max Hall will be successful as the Cardinals Quarterback?
Yes
443 votes
No
161 votes

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Temper you excitement

Let’s see what he can do. All I want to see is the kid doesn’t have any TURNOVER. checkdown and run if you have to MAX. But no TURNOVER. knowing the OL, you will running alot this sunday. Keep you eyes up field for breakaway WR. Good luck.

by safford on Oct 6, 2010 6:02 PM MDT reply actions  

We all know that he needs some time to get used to the game.

I’m just saying that I think he CAN be good.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 6, 2010 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kudos to you Joe

I remember you being the guy talking up Hall last year in some threads here at RotB. Now, we all get to see if he is at least belongs where you think he belongs (in the NFL).

by Cardsfan81 on Oct 7, 2010 5:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hope so

It’d be nice to see a local kid succeed here too.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 7, 2010 9:28 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I want some of that koolaid

We have plenty of holes on our team. Linebackers, Secondary, O-line, now Receivers due to injury, the last thing we need is an inexperienced QB. Hall is in there to simply manage the game and limit turnovers. I don’t think he can lead our offense to outscore what our D gives up

by cardinalbrown on Oct 7, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

If there were a season when going 8-8 could win the division...

This would be it. Of course, unlike DA, Bradford might improve lots.

by KholdStare88 on Oct 7, 2010 1:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow, who rec'd this

This isn’t your daddy’s Cardinals and we aren’t those same fans. Especially with the state of the NFC West (scared of the Rams, though) we are still there in the mix. I’m far more concerned about our D than with our offense. Our offense needs the line to gel and let Beanie and HT (in that order!) run the clock and Max will be fine.

"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."

by pthesz on Oct 7, 2010 4:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rams & Seachickens are on the rise

We can’t beat the Saints or any high-scoring team by running the ball when they are stacking the box. Hall has got to strike fear in secondary, which I don’t think he does (yet). Playing catchup may be impossible this season with our passing game. I’m fine with Hall or Skelton being the QB of the future, but the future is not now and they are not ready to lead us to another division title. I’ll be damned to see the Rams go from worst overall to first in our division

by cardinalbrown on Oct 7, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

At this point, I am so tired of seeing DA throwing picks killing the momentum.

It’s still a long season. Let’s focus one play at a time. I know it’s a cliche but hell, what else can you do? I will be at the game cheering for my Cards. We need to hurt (nothing illegal) the Saints this Sunday to fire up our squat..

by safford on Oct 6, 2010 6:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Define successful.

A time frame needs to be put into consideration too. I do think he can be successful but don’t expect it overnight. Look back at the rookie seasons of various successful QBs in the league and you’ll find a lot of ugly football. Any decent QB has the opportunity to flourish in AZ with all the weapons he’ll have around him. Might need to reconfigure the O line to keep him healthy long enough to find some success.

Laughed at the last paragraph of the first BYU quote. Yeah, I think Max will get plenty of opportunity to learn to play from 2 TDs behind if things don’t turn around soon.

by hadrarius on Oct 6, 2010 6:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Put up sone good numbers and win games?

I’m not just talking about this year though. I mean if he is the starter for all of this season do you think he will play well?

By rookie standards at least…

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 6, 2010 6:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Success should be a 3rd Division Title

Before the season started, this was the Cards division to lose. Now it looks like we are teetering on that path. Really, 74% think Max Hall will be successful? How about asking will the Cardinals be successful with Hall at QB? Anything but another division title is an unsuccessful season. The fans that suffered countless losing seasons at SDS can’t accept going back to that dark place. We built a winner and we need to continue winning regardless of who is under center.

by cardinalbrown on Oct 7, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Aren't both of those questions the same thing?

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 7, 2010 11:31 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think theres a difference

You can have a successful QB on an unsuccessful team and an unsuccessful QB on a successful team. QB doesn’t go hand-in-hand with a team’s W-L, but it certainly helps. Off the top of my head, Schaub was statistically good eventhough the Texans struggled. Trent Dilfer won’t be confused for an elite QB, but he won the Super Bowl with the Ravens. Sometimes teams have all the other pieces put together so it’s not all up to the QB.

I liked your original question, maybe a little open ended on the timeline for his success. I’m concerned with the change in QB conceding the NFC West. I feel like we still have a shot, but it’s gonna be tough with an UDFA rookie. I’m curious to know what ROTB thinks about the Cardinals being a successful team with Max Hall @ QB this year. Successful = winning a 3rd consecutive division title

by cardinalbrown on Oct 7, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

By that definition of success...

I’d say it will be a rough road. Take Hall out of the equation all together and there are still enough problems on this team to stymie their chances. They could fall backwards into the title in this division so I’m not ready to rule out the possibility.

I think he can be a decent QB. For him to have success this season the running game will have to take priority and do some consistant damage. I believe they are sufficiently capable of that. The defense is going to have to harden and keep us in games. If Hall doesn’t turn the ball over he’ll be doing his part. The way the Jets handled Sanchez last year would be a fair model to go by. The question is, can the team raise it’s level of play to compensate for a rookie QB?

by hadrarius on Oct 7, 2010 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

The NFC West was the 49ers' to lose

If you ask anyone who wasn’t a member here. From the outside, we embarked on that path when Warner left. We are not giving up on the season. DA has been massively incompetent, and has shown no signs of improvement at any stage. Anyone should be considered an upgrade at this point. Hall gives us a better chance to win because he gives us less of a chance to lose. It’s that simple.

by tw3kr on Oct 7, 2010 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Now it belongs to the Rams according to the experts.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 7, 2010 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bradford looks like real deal, and Jackson is still a beast

But the rest of the team? I’ll believe it when I see it.

by tw3kr on Oct 7, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Accuracy is just what the Cardinals need

One of Kurt Warner’s biggest advantages was his accuracy. He was always able to throw the ball right where he wanted to. I think that after having Kurt Warner for two years, the Cardinals have sort of melded there offense around the idea of an accurate QB.

The BYU people think he was a pretty/really accurate QB. I think that Max Hall will succeed because his accuracy will be able to find Larry Fitzgerald on accurate passes for decent gains each time, and because he worked with the rookie WR"s more than any other QB this off-season (John Skelton being the exception), he should be able to connect with them a lot. I also think that he’ll use Larry Fitzgerald to his full use.

I’m ready for Sunday!

by Skii on Oct 6, 2010 6:47 PM MDT reply actions  

I think Hall has better accuracy than DA from what I saw in preseason.

Whiz got rid of Leinart because he was not a leader. Leadership means leading your team to a win. I don’t expect us to win this Sunday with the way our D is playing. But I want to see Max to take charge and extend play with his feet. I like his mobility. If he can extends play and don’t turn the ball over, the players will respond to him.

by safford on Oct 6, 2010 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

He fit some balls into really tight windows in that video I posted earlier.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 6, 2010 6:58 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

thanks

hopefully, Whiz will pound the ball with HT, Beanie, and LSH. The pressure to win is off if he starts a rookie QB. I thought we have pretty good size OL to push Saint D.

by safford on Oct 6, 2010 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

We got some hope

The Saints D isn’t anything spectacular this year, at least statically. They are ranked just above us by footballoutsiders. Offensively though, thats a different story. Their run game is pretty bad, so if we can somehow clamp down on their passing we have a chance.

by Jesse Reynolds on Oct 6, 2010 7:00 PM MDT reply actions  

Aren't their 2 main backs injured?

We should know by now what happens when backup RB’s go against our defense…

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 6, 2010 7:23 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes

You know why? He’s all I got left. He can’t fail now.

by KholdStare88 on Oct 6, 2010 7:10 PM MDT reply actions  

As long as I don't have to watch Anderson take another snap I will be happy

I’m glad they did this. I think he’ll be successful, but maybe it’ll take some time.

by edbro on Oct 6, 2010 7:10 PM MDT reply actions  

MAX-i-mus!!!!

What the hey? I’m going out and saying it?
I’m not happy about the QB situation. And I think we’re in for a tough year.

Here’s to the kid and I hope this is the start of something special!!!!

by Cardzfan on Oct 6, 2010 7:23 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

As long as we can run the bal

I think he’ll be OK.
A few sweeps and pitchouts to Beanie. A couple of draw plays to LSH and a few middle screens to Hightower. Then playaction passes to FITZ in the seems and crossing ove r the middle behind the LB’s.
An accurate QB can make those throws.
IF the defense can’t stop New Orleans then we’ll have problems. 17 yard out routs and curls will be tough for a rookie with pressure coming at him. The Saints will disguise their coverages. Pro conerbacks and safties are not the same as Mountain west conference DB’s.

No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Oct 6, 2010 9:09 PM MDT reply actions  

agreed

heavy run with short passes…similar to the first drive against SD…

But on the first play, I might try and call a play action pass, and throw a bomb to Fitz!!!!
why not? Take a shot!!!

by Cardzfan on Oct 6, 2010 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well said for once Az

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Oct 6, 2010 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Once?

That’s it! All the pearls of wisdom I have imparted to you and this is the thanks I get!
I can not take this kind of slight. I’m going down the hall to the medication window and get something to calm me down. Then I’m going to hit on that widow with the great big tits and nice red wig and try to forget this insult by burying my head in her chest.
LOL

Your friend at the home,
AZR
P.S. – L.O.L.

by AZ retiree on Oct 6, 2010 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think

This post isn’t 90% negative and has some constructive points.

by KholdStare88 on Oct 7, 2010 12:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

OMG!

I just rec’d an AZRet post. (It’s the apocalypse)

"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."

by pthesz on Oct 7, 2010 4:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

lots of runs, screens,roll-out passes......

They need to counter what occurred with SD in the second half….
Larry or Williams running slant patterns.
Hightower running a flat, Hightower doing a screen
Rolling out and letting Max play with half the field….
Using Patrick for 5-7 yd pick-ups

These are ways to counter what the D may throw at him.

by Cardzfan on Oct 7, 2010 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

rec'd AZ

I have been hard on you in the past, but let’s stay positive and hope that just like in “the secret” (i don’t really buy into that crap, but hey you never know) our positive thoughts transpire into wins on the field for this team in a young man’s hands.

by Gildo on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is Charlie Whitehurst still available?

I think I would be willing to give up whatever Seattle did to get him.

Stoudemire to the 10th floor will soon be Nash to the 10th floor!

by SunsFanForever on Oct 6, 2010 10:36 PM MDT reply actions  

I heard that he hasn't been too impressive so far.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 6, 2010 11:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

HMMM

Well. They say one of the most transferrable college QB stats is completion percentage. And Maxy was over 67 percent the last 2 years. That is a really good sign. He also does not have a cannon arm. This may be a good thing. Most of DA’s misses were on shorter routes where he just winged the dang ball as hard as he good. This could be where Hall earns his money (won’t be hard on a minimum contract). Getting the ball to Fitz and Breaston short and letting them do something with it is a perfect gameplay. The ball in Fitz’s hands is the best place it can be. And our running game has been decent enough that play-action should work at the start. This gives Max enough of a window to use that accuracy. This is where DA could not do it. He could not find those windows of space and deliver the ball.

The QB i like to think of most comparing Max Hall is Drew Brees. The similarities don’t stop at the size. Neither have a cannon arm but both are dead on accurate. Neither is a great athlete but both know how to move to get what they need. Both are smart and can read defenses. And the part I like most. Both of them to otherwise mediocre to poor football teams and lead them to the promise land. Obviously Brees has perfected his skills at the NFL level, whereas Hall is still a college kid, but that is his potential. Let’s hope he lives up to it.

by Suns Fan For Life on Oct 7, 2010 7:49 AM MDT reply actions  

Drew Brees
The QB i like to think of most comparing Max Hall is Drew Brees. The similarities don’t stop at the size. Neither have a cannon arm but both are dead on accurate. Neither is a great athlete but both know how to move to get what they need. Both are smart and can read defenses.

i said the the same thing on this blog when you guys signed him. Max doesnt have a strong arm but he is deadly accurate. give him some time to watch tape and he will go into a game and diagnose a defense and exploit them.

by EcERyda69 on Oct 7, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great to hear so much from those who watched him in college

I was excited to watch both Hall and Skelton in the preseason and I can’t be more excited to see a change at QB. I know that Hall is the more ready QB on the roster right now and with time he may be able to salvage the season, but for now we wait and watch…

I’ve been hearing a lot from the talking heads about “He’s an undrafted free agent rookie, that’s the worst of all worlds!” To me it sounds like he’s the right guy for the job right now, starting out being doubted and looked past! Sounds like a Cardinal to me!

Section 103, Row 19

by CardsFan08 on Oct 7, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

The other thing to remember...

He’s not 22, but 25, I think….so there’s a bit more maturity, than your typical 22 year old, which I think accounts for his approach and attitude to the game. Ultimately, he needs to have the skills, but I do think he’s got the moxey and the intangibles to pull this off……I’m talking long-term…

What I want to see on Sunday is his presence and leadership, and ability to move the ball…Whiz must design a successful game plan that utilizes his skills, while not throwing everything at him at once..

by Cardzfan on Oct 7, 2010 8:04 AM MDT reply actions  

Yep

“Whiz must design a successful game plan that utilizes his skills—-”
I could not agree more. He is not Warner or Anderson and if he is to become a winning QB, the HC will certainly show us something new on Sunday.

by Arizona Retiree on Oct 7, 2010 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

did he go on a mission?

I assume he had to leave for two years if he is 25? I didn’t know that about him, but pretty impressive to be away from football for two years and come back and do what he did at BYU. I’m optimistic that he will lead us to atleast a year we can be proud of, not the dump of a year DA had us going towards (not to put all of the blame at QB, but hopefully you know what I mean)…

by Gildo on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Missionairy Max

Yeah he signed to ASU, after one semester went on his mission. Upon returning transferred to BYU and the rest is history

by cardinalbrown on Oct 7, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

They need to move him out of the pocket like the Saints do with Brees

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hell yeah Max

Undrafted QB to Starter. Hope he does for you guys what he did at BYU which is win games, just not against the 49ers lol.

Good job Max hope you have a great career in the NFL.

by EcERyda69 on Oct 7, 2010 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

On Max Hall

I never saw Max play except in bowl games. I am a BYU grad of early years even before the years of Steve Young and Jimmy Mac. Coach Levalle Edwards brought in Offensive minded Coordinators who ran the college version of Bill Walsh’s West Coast Offense. the BYU QBs ran that offense to perfection. Even Robbie Bosco after Steve Young and called it the most complex offense he ever ran and to perfection for BYUs only National Title. Max Hall ran that same type of offense but not under Coach Edwards. By then it was the spread yet a slightly wider version of the WC. Max Hall was the best and ONLY QB to run BYU’s offense after John Bech graduated. Given time to mesh with the players and work with them, Max will develop a rapore with the runners and pass receivers. Remember that his targets a BYU were Dennis Pitta the Tight End and his brother in law and the wide outs. His favorite was Dennis. The BYU idea was throw accurate to whoever is open and let them run for yardage after the catch. Steve Young did the same at BYU and later with the 49ers. Then he still threw medium range to Jerry Rice on slants and Rice did the rest. Perfectly timed accurate passes have been the trademark of BYU QBs during the Edwards era from 1972 until what 9 years ago or so that he retired. Forget the Gary Crompton years.
Max Hall will do well with accurate passes perfectly timed passes and using his backs and throughing to this Tight end etc. He can occasionally go long but all he has to do it perfectly timed and accurate to Fritz just when Fritz opens up and away for the TD. That is accutally how BYU usually did it except for a few long TD plays that I witnessed.
Years ago I witnessed Gifford Nielson launch a perfect banana pass of 60 yards to a streacking Wide receiver. I yelled TD even while the ball was still in the air. It ended as the longest TD pass of that game and lead to a much needed win that year. Max may or may not do the same but working down the field with a proper mix of the right running and passing plays would do very nicely. Let just see what happens. Go BYU Grad Max Hall.

by snbcooke on Oct 7, 2010 12:42 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I hope you are correct

Because an accurate and decisive QB in our system should flourish. I contested earlier in the preseason why Matt Leinart would succeed because of his ability to get the ball in the the hands of the receivers and let them do the work.
But ML couldn’t get it done because of his apparent lack of leadership and command. Hopefully Hall can overcome where ML failed.

by Jesse Reynolds on Oct 7, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

We have a strong receiving corps. Even with injuries, I think the group we have can all catch pretty well and are YAC threats. There’s nothing wrong with letting them do the work for you. Going out and trying hard to be perfect is going to put you in bad situations (DA). Hopefully Hall can be relaxed and just go out there and put it on the numbers without trying to force too much. If we lose, we lose and if he makes mistakes, he makes mistakes, but we need something right now, and it won’t take much for him to outperform DA.

by tw3kr on Oct 7, 2010 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

You are getting me excited now...

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 7, 2010 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lotsa a koolaid drinking in the voting on this one

The rest of this year will be a brutal year for the Cards regardless of who is qb. No blocking and not much defense.

My personal opinion is there is no QB on the team even close to being an NFL qb and none has any hope of succeding in the NFL (ouch that hurt to say) With this team, which one starts is almost irrelevant. I hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t see us getting to 8-8 this year (admittedly 8-8 may win the divison).

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Oct 7, 2010 1:14 PM MDT reply actions  

I think we're just trying to be hopeful and make the best of it

given how we got here was managed in an ugly manner…..if the season ends up being a wash, we’ll have plenty of time to discuss that.

For now, I want to get behind Maximus and hope he has a good game this Sunday and beyond..

Also, I voted more of it being long-term – no so much this Sunday…

LETS GO CARDINALS!!!!

by Cardzfan on Oct 7, 2010 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don't expect too much this sunday.

After the bye week my expectations will go up a little. Hall will have had three weeks leading the offense. Breaston and Doucet should be back by then. We might have an almost fully functional offense. I just hope Whis doesn’t revert to Anderson without giving Hall a few games as starter. If he’s wretched then we’re screwed anyway. This week the Saints will go after him hard. Weathering that storm will be his first major test.

by hadrarius on Oct 7, 2010 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

agreed

here’s what I want to see from Hall on Sunday -
leadership, command of the offense, ability to make good decisions, minimal turnovers (note I didn’t say none – trying to be realistic). Frankly, if everyone does their jobs, I think he can do most of this on Sunday.

But as everyone has already stated, its not just the QB position. Here’s what I want to see from everyone else -
Coaching – good game plan designed for Max. Set him up for success. Good prep plan for the players on O and D. If players are screwing up, put someone in who can do the job!
O line – a better effort all around on blocking and assignments (I’m watching you Keith!)
D – Not being porous. Much greater effort all around in assignments, penetration, coverage, pursuit

If we can show improvement in all areas, and at minimum, make this a game, I can handle a loss going into the bye week, with the hope we have a shot with 11 games to go. I want to win, but I can take a loss if we show vast improvement in all areas. And because its the Saints, I’d feel better about it vs if it was a home game against a struggling team.

by Cardzfan on Oct 8, 2010 7:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

If this makes the transition of our faith any easier

I currently attend BYU and my roomate is on the football team. He says Max Hall is a real leader and is really tough on himself and holds his team accountable. He also told me Hall has a real thirst to win and be the best and is never satisfied partly due to his small stature. I shared my thoughts and nerves with him regarding Sunday and he told me “bro, Hall is a winner, he’ll do whatever it takes to get it done”.
It’s nice to see reports from the Cards and elsewhere that are in line with these sentiments. If it helps calm any of our nerves, at least it sounds like he’s got the swagtangibles.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Oct 7, 2010 11:14 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

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