Who Powered Through -- Kurt Warner

by Andrew602 on Nov 10, 2010 2:05 PM MST in Who Powered Through

With another sponsor now in the mix, Vicks came up with the post that would alternate between the NFC and AFC every week, listing players that "powered through" an illness or injury -- past or present. With all of the talk about how poor the Cardinals current quarterback situation is, I found it only fitting to start the series with Kurt Warner's toughness.

Warner led the Cardinals on an improbable run during his stay in Arizona. He is and was beloved by the fans. He made magic happen when he suited up on Sundays. One instance came in 2007, a week after Matt Leinart broke his collarbone and was sent to the injured reserve. Against the Carolina Panthers at home, Kurt Warner went after a loose ball along with defensive end Julius Peppers. The result would be a nasty injury to Warner's elbow. When he went to reach for the ball, Peppers landed on him, grabbing both the ball and his elbow. If you've ever seen Julius Peppers, than you would know he is a massive specimen.

An MRI after the game confirmed that there was a torn ligament in the elbow, but Warner was confident he would play out the remainder of the season. The injury occurred on Warner's none-throwing arm, meaning he'd still be able to complete the throwing motion.

Wearing a brace, Warner returned the following week on the road against the Redskins, and threw for 282 yards and 2 touchdowns. From week seven to seventeen, Warner remarkably averaged 281.6 passing yards per game, threw 23 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, an 87.1 passer rating, and a 61.2% completion. With the amount of pain Warner suffered in his elbow, it's amazing that he was able to put together those kind of numbers. Then again, he did a lot of amazing things throughout his career. Kurt Warner powered through.

A link to the original story and picture of Warner's elbow can be found here.

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Can SBN use the money from these sponsored posts

To get a program that kills the spambots?

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 10, 2010 2:32 PM MST via mobile reply actions

Im hoping they do

The capcha doesnt seem to be working. They need a more developed system. I implemented the 24 hour waiting period today anyway so lets hope that helps.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds

by Andrew602 on Nov 10, 2010 5:24 PM MST up reply actions

Or?

The money would be best served if it were used to vaporize the “In Whiz We Trust” clones or droids or whatever they are (Whiz Kidz?). The ones who scream and yell out “We love you coach Whiz!” while throwing their panties at him. Money well spent!

by Arizona Retiree on Nov 10, 2010 3:05 PM MST reply actions

In case you haven't noticed

Even those of us who believe in Whiz have called him out for his mistakes. I have criticized some of his decisions.

But unlike you, I am not a knee jerk reactionary who will can someone after one mistake. You are saying to bench any QB after one bad game, and fire every coach who makes one little mistake.

Look at Pittsburgh, it took Bill Cowher a while to win a Super Bowl, and 3 years after his team went to the Super Bowl for the first time (and lost), and following an 11-5 season, he proceeded to go 7-9 in 1998, 6-10 in 1999, and 9-7 in 2000. He also went 6-10 in 2003 and followed that up with a 15-1 season, and an 11-5 season where his team won the Super Bowl in 2005.

What I am saying is that even great coaches have down years. I don’t know where Whiz is yet, but he has proven that even though he makes some head scratcher decisions, he knows what he is doing (and he was with Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh for a while, including the Super Bowl season in 2005). Unless the season is just astronomically bad, you cannot fire someone for ONE SEASON where everything doesn’t turn out the way you want it to. A lot of people here were expecting this to be a rebuilding year, and the NFC West is improving even though no team has a record better than .500 right now.

What did you expect? A season with 11 or 12 wins without Kurt Warner?

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Nov 10, 2010 7:14 PM MST up reply actions

Not just one.

Please, Joe, you know I’m not talking about just one call or one player move. I have referred repeatedly to Whiz’s entire body of work, post Warner. The story is written in the NFL team stats and transactions. I happen to browse the stats prior to taking a stand to be sure I have a firm grasp of reality.
All I ask is that those who are so willing to bash me and call me names do the same. If other Cardinals’ or Whiz fans want to debate strengths and weaknesses of either or both, be ready to back up your argument with facts, stats and easy on the bull shit.
This little desert town if full of “educated fans” that know the numbers. They come from across the nation after their working careers have ended, to enjoy retirement which includes following their hometown teams as well as their adopted Arizona teams. The educated fans know what I am saying. If I am wrong, you would see me being flogged with facts and stats generated this season by Whisenhunt. It has not happened. Why?
It has not happened because there is no logical arguement for failure. Not when it is so obvious. I just want the respect any “real fan” would want. Stop the name calling and bring some logic to back up your opposing opinions.
Read the stats, look at the win/loss record and evaluate the teams execution of the HCs game plan. Does he or does he not suck? My opinion, he sucks big time and we need to replace him if we are going to salvage the last half of the season.
It appears as if the players have lost heart as well as faith in this head coach. He gives away games they have worked so hard to win. It seems pointless if not futile. I do not blame the players. I blame coach Ken Whisenhunt. With the departure of Kurt Warner “The king has no clothes!”

by Arizona Retiree on Nov 10, 2010 10:34 PM MST reply actions

that is insane....

this was the most insane post I think I’ve ever read. Fire Whiz? Really? How long have you been a Cardinals fan? If you’re like me, who sat in the scalding hot benches at Sun Devil Stadium only to watch the Cardinals blow game after game, and season after season, then you would know that we have a good thing here in Coach Whiz. Sure, he could’ve handled the QB situation a little different, and been better prepared for the retirement of Kurt, I’m not denying that. But he does know what he is doing, and I have complete faith in him to turn things around for the future. He has earned my faith for now. If he were to have a few seasons of ineptitude in a row, then we can start this talk. But not this season.

by shazzon1 on Nov 11, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions

Insane!

Opinion, based on facts and statistical data, is insane? You must also believe that Newtons Law of Gravity should have been celebrated with Sir Isaac being fitted with a straight jacket and had his cranium drilled full of holes to allow the insanity to drain.
All I ask, is some facts from post Warner, to support not firing Wisenhunt. Having also been a long time fan of the Cards and sufferred. I have now tasted the fruits of success, and I choose to insist on more, not less. I will not accept a “it was good while it lasted” mentality.
We finally have a state of the art stadium, now let’s use it to build a winning tradition.
Wisenhunt has proven nothing without Warner calling the Offense. He has years under his belt as the Arizona HC. If he does not know how to win by now, sorry, time is up.
Wisenhunt is so inept that his years at the helm only produces failure and you want him to produce the same for years to come? Please.
The Whiz places us in this position, last place stastictcally in the entire NFL on Offense. He has also produced a Defense that is showing battle fatigue from trying to score points as well as defending.
This is without a doubt the most pathetic effort by a Head Coach I have ever witnessed.
Show me the sanity of “going back to the farm, after I have seen the lights of Paris”.
I want the “Whiz Kidz” to please inform me of all the stats and convincing wins generated by this tenured coach this season. I want to know what years of experience as Head Coach has produced this season (post Warner). Is this what Whiz’s experience as Head Coach adds up to?
I have had enough! How many more seasons does he need to develop his coaching chops, and at what price? It is with our hearts that we, the fans, pay. My heart has been broken and I refuse to be made the perpetual fool. We, the fans, are not punching bags.
Insane, I don’t think so. Practical, you bet! Dump Whiz now!

by Arizona Retiree on Nov 11, 2010 10:52 AM MST reply actions