Chevy's Corner: What is the REAL problem with our receivers?
Everyone knows Derek Anderson has a rifle for an arm. His passes have more zip and zing than touch and accruacy. So why is it that even his leading passes get short armed by the receivers? Well here is my best assessment of why.
The receivers are afraid to extend for a pass. Its that simple. Since preseason DA has managed to get at least 4 of our top receivers (Fitz, Early, Breaston and Williams) hurt from either high or errant passes. Even when the receiver is in space DA some how leads the receiver straight towards a defender instead of using that rifle to put it right on the numbers. Every extension is a gamble that these receivers lose more than they win. Picture back last year when everyone (especially me ) was giving Jereme Urban a hard time because of his gator arms. He would never extend for fear (in my opinion) of getting hurt. Whether he had just cause is debatable, but this year's group has overwhelming proof. How many times in the last two games have Early and Breaston been hit jumping extremely high and dump on the heads or backs? There is no confidence in DA's ball placement. As much as I sit there and scream at the tv for Fitz to make that catch, I can't help but think that in the back of his mind he assuradly avoided that season (or career) ending blow. Our dropped passes are just too high.
How much more can the receivers take before the coaches realize this experiment is not worth our players' safety. At only two games out of 1st place, the season is far from over, but is DA really worth it? Max Hall has turned into a turnover magnet and they see the same qualities in John Skelton as they do DA. Not very promising. Where is Mr. Checkdown when you need him? I hate to admit it, but I doubt if Matty Boy would have gotten anyone hurt. No pass would have gone passed 11 yards. What are your thoughts?
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Anderson also got Stephen Williams hurt too
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by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 25, 2010 9:27 AM MST reply actions
So right. I'll add it.
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YOU NAILED IT
this is exactly what ive been saying all freakin year!!!! DA has to go. the division title is not worth going for if we lose ALL our receivers this year. ITS not worth it at all. At least put hall in there to get experience and that way he wont feel he HAS to make a game saving play and throw a pick.
Wasn't it Leinart
who got Fitz injured in the preseason?
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41
by Jdub220 on Nov 25, 2010 10:02 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I think so, but DA got Fitz hurt a few ago also didn't he?
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I was saying something
about this line:
Where is Mr. Checkdown when you need him? I hate to admit it, but I doubt if Matty Boy would have gotten anyone hurt.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41
Yes.
There was a huge amount of complaining about Leinart’s culpability in Fitz getting hurt. That pass however if you go back and watch the play was fine. Fitz just got blown up by the defender. Anderson is throwing way too high consistantly. Those throws are dangerous for the receivers. He’s still going to be the starter because the other two are not even close to ready. Pining for Leinart is a waste of time and energy. The guy is gone and wasn’t getting it done when here anyway.
Then you really didnt watch his rookie year.
Cause dude did pretty well for a rookie.
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by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 25, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
Funny thing is that's true
His rookie season was decent. Considering he was playing for the 2006 Cardinals, who had no where near the talent they have now, he did pretty good.
HEY FRONT OFFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO GET SHAUN HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU HEARING ME????!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 25, 2010 11:11 AM MST reply actions
Yea this offseason. Wouldnt mind Bulger, but all Hill does is win games. Detroit gave up a 7th rounder for him
I know this year hasnt been great, but he had a 10-6 record as a starter before this year. And that was with a bad Niners team
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by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 25, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions
I've come to a conclusion
Our players are not rookies, they are not throwaways, and they do not suck. Recently I’ve read a “worst players in NFL” article too, and sure enough, none of the Cardinals were on there. So if the “experts” don’t think our players suck, then it must be true. In all seriousness, I’m starting to question whether or not it’s the coaches that are bringing us down. I mean, DA obviously do suck, but it’s not all his fault, noting the “up by two touchdowns” game with 4 minutes to go that we should’ve won.
On a darker (brighter?) note, who’s still sticking with the Cards? It’s going to be the worst Monday Night Football game ever, but I’ll still watch it.
I'm watching it
I’ll watch any game the Cardinals are in, and I don’t think we’re a bad team. We’ve got incredible talent. We’re just not getting it done,
It’s not going to be the worst Monday Night Football game ever. There’s been worse. Besides, the players are going to play with all their heart because they’re division rivals, and not just any division rivals. Huge division rivals. Thank Darnell Dockett, Vernon Davis, and Twitter for that.
Bench DA
He seems to do okay when he’s a backup, but he’s not going to get it done as a starter. Yes, we’re two games back from 1st Place, but DA’s not going to win enough to get us to the Playoffs. Plus, like you said, our WR’s don’t trust him, and with good reason.
I say start Max Hall again. He might have corrected his mistakes. Also, the team likes Max Hall. He has that “it” factor. We have nothing to lose from starting him. In fact, it might bring back some lost fans, and the team will have something to rally around.
If he doesn’t work out, get John Skelton some playing time, and analyse our needs for the Off-season. But first, try Max Hall out again, and see if he’s worth keeping for next season,
Spot on
I was rewatching the Colts/Pats game (I needed to see some good QB play to remember what it was like) and I watched as time after time Brady and Manning threw spot on throws that either protected their WR’s or lead them perfectly for YAC.
After rewatching last game and all the games DA has played so far I have seen very few plays where he does that. Plays were he puts the ball right were it needs to be, like leading the RB on a screen (if he can even can even connect on the screen).
I doubt benching him will help this team. I have no faith in Hall and if Skelton is a raw version of DA than I can wait a few years.
The facts are DA has improved (no TO’s the last three games) but his improved still sucks. Lets see how he does against our rivals.
Excuses Excuses
These guys shouldn’t have to wait for a game against Whiners to get up. They are professionals. They should get up every single game. I know I’ll be watching Cards game come Monday night.
off season
Why is nobody talking about us going after young. He is better than anyone we have on our team and we could probably get him for a second or third round pick because tenn is getting rid of him one way or another. That would buy us some time and he has talent he just needs direction.
Young would be better than Anderson.
He’s not worth putting at the front of the list though. Too many off field issues.
I don't remember DA getting Fitzy injured
I do agree with hadrarious about the injury being because the DB went low. The pass looked fine to me when Leianrt threw it.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
He got Fitz hurt a few weeks ago.
He left the game rattled but came back. He has been short arming passes ever since.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
Great to see it in black and white HevChv
I’ve been complaining while watching the game and screaming at the TV that every pass is way to high and that you can’t blame the receivers for being scared to death to go up for them. Breaston and Doucet have been going up for them to A) avoid the INT and B) to sacrifice their bodies to allow the offense to gain positive yards.
Like you mentioned I don’t blame Fitz for not going crazy trying to catch some of the errant throws that have been sent his way. But it really is getting to the point that I would rather they bring in Hall and teach him the short game so that we can have someone connect with a RB screen and once in a while hit someone in the numbers rather than throw it at the moon and yell when they’re carted off the field on a stretcher.
Section 103, Row 19
CAN DA NOW!! I MEAN SOON AS YOU READ THIS!!
whiz you will go down in burning flames for what!?! THIS…….da ? somebody slap him silly its not worth your job ……i would rather take chances with the wildcat or a pop warner QB than have this joke DESTROYING what you have tried to build over the years…. in years to come you will look back at this 3-13 season and think huh maybe i was wrong…..well i say to that do it NOW
It’s common knowledge DA has a cannon for an arm and his lack of a finesse touch is well documented and his accuracy has always been suspect. His receivers don’t like the hard ball because it hurts their delicate little hands and they’re forced to run faster routes because the ball is coming at them sooner than what they are used too. It was suggested that DA just put the ball on the numbers, well the common result of that is usually a ball bouncing off the receivers chest or hands and into the defenders hands, why, because once again the receivers don’t like catching the hard ball, it hurts too much, they aren’t used too it, Breaston proved that a couple times last week with a perfectly thrown ball bouncing off his hands. I believe it you look at some of Da’s picks this year you will find that they weren’t the result of poor decisions rather it was the ball getting to where the receiver was suppose to be sooner than the receiver got there. The article mentions how the receivers don’t trust the qb’s ball placement, how about the qb not trusting his O-line to give him enough protection to make better throws. I doubt there are very many qbs is this league who can withstand the physical beating DA has taken as a result of the O-line failing to protect him. I believe if the coach would just tell Da that this was his team for the remainder of the season no matter what and to just go out and play his game like he’s capable of doing, the results would be different. Da has never been and never will be a 60% passer but he has proven that even as a mid 50’s % passer he can win games.
How do you know he hasn't told him that?
And, are these receivers supposed to run three feet above the surface of the field? Because that’s where they need to be to catch half of Anderson’s throws.

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