Week 12 Open Thread
by JoeCB1991 on Nov 28, 2010 9:59 AM MST
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Because the Cardinals are off until Monday Night for the game against the 49ers, lets have a little gamethread to discuss the other games that will be on. On FOX, Green Bay/Atlanta and Philadelphia/Chicago will be on, both of which should be good games, and on CBS Kansas City/Seattle will be on in the afternoon. If anyone can keep an eye on Seattle, along with the St. Louis/Denver game in the afternoon try to do that since if they lose it will keep the Cardinals slim playoff hopes alive.
Although I think most of us would rather get the highest pick in the draft that we possibly can right now than go to the playoffs.
Enjoy the games.
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Soooooo.....
I haven’t been on here much because I’m trying to buy a new computer. But besides that point, I wanted to know Joe or anyone who reads this. Do you want our team to continue losing and pack it in for the season or do we really want them to win? The reason I ask, is because the more we lose (or come to realize this is a transitional season) the better chances we have at drafting Luck or Mallett. I’d prefer Luck myself. What do you guys think???
Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
I always prefer winning.
Even though we can’t go anywhere this year..(we can still win the division..HAHAHA)
There’s no telling which QB would be available. It’s unlikely we would get the #1 pick and even if we did, they $$$ for the #1 pick would cripple the team for years in other areas.
I think this year with an average QB we could over .500 and running away with the division. Next year too. (although—ST.Loo will be getting better).
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Don't want to see them pack it in.
We’ve suffered through season after season of teams that give up early. If there has truly been a culture change within the team this will be the season that proves it. The 53 guys on the roster aren’t going to quit to put the team in a better draft position. If they do quit on us then we’ve got problems that can’t be fixed with the draft.
+1 very good point
about the current players not thinking about draft position.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
Just win baby!
I’ve never been a fan of giving up on the season. Mathematically we aren’t eliminated from winning the NFC West. Do I think we will? No, but you have to try. The rest of this year is essentially a try-out. Can O’Brien step up with Will Davis to hold down the OLB spot when Haggans/Porter leave? Our starting QB this year is auditioning for a backup role next year. We need to see what Skelton can do, despite his inability to read defenses this early in his career. Personally, I think we’re purposely not playing Skelton so we can sneak him on to the PS next year.
If you are a true competitor, choosing to lose is not a choice at all
by cardinalbrown on Nov 28, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
Even if we don't get the #1 pick in the Draft
There’s still a ton of FA QB’s.
Why doesn’t anyone seem to like Jake Locker too much? I think he’d be great here.
Did you see Locker play this year?
I think we can all agree Washington has sub-par talent surrounding him. What would he do for our team? I liked Locker alot last year, even had him on the same level as Bradford. But after this year I’d take Kellen Moore over Locker
by cardinalbrown on Nov 28, 2010 8:47 PM MST up reply actions
Right now
I want them to try to win, but if it gets to the point where we are completely out of it. I’ll be at the point where I just want a good draft pick.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
OMG--Delhomme might be worse than DA
I took Cleve in my KO pool. I thought they would start McCoy.
Delhomme just threw an almost pick from the 7 yard line. He’s scary.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 11:24 AM MST reply actions
Cleveland need s to not throw
Just keep giving the ball to Hillis.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 11:27 AM MST reply actions
Pity Cards don't play Sunday
Because we could always switch to Figure Skating on NBC if something bad happens.
My fantasy team is doing horrible
I’m wondering if I shouldn’t have started Eli Manning.
Also, my WR’s, who won it for me last week are doing terrible. The bright spot for me today is Adrian Peterson. Hopefully he can have a monster game.
Who knows. Maybe thing’s will pick up in the second half for my guys.
I think AP left with an ankle sprain
Who’s your other QB?
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
I hope to God your wrong
My other QB is Donovan McNabb. Which is a huge upgrade over the QB’s I had at the beginning of the season: Kevin Kolb and Vince Young. Kevin Kolb because he had huge expectations going in the season, and besides, no one knew about Michael Vick, and Vince Young, because I really don’t know what I was thinking.
I wish I could go back to the Draft Day. It would be so easy to make a championship team. Who in the world thought Arian Foster would turn out to become, well, Arian Foster? Or that Michael Vick would become a serious contender for the MVP award?
Ap did leave--but he looks like he's coming back
in the meantime—Gerheart scored a TD from inside the 5 (would have been AP’s TD. (sorry)
I drafted kolb in 1 of my leagues and picked up Vick—but dropped them both. I did trade for Rogers though. (I have him in both my leagues).
1 league I’m doing great—the other I suck
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
Delhomme strikes again.
throws a pick—1st play of the 3rd quarter.
Cleveland is gonna make me sweat this one out.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 12:52 PM MST reply actions
And another--this time a pick 6
He is worse than DA.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
They should've started Colt McCoy
He needs to get all the experience he can get. Evaluate him, and see if you need to pick up/draft another QB after the season.
After today, Colt McCoy is the future starting qb for the Browns
No question about it.
by CanadianCard on Nov 28, 2010 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
He had an ankle sprain.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Greg Jennings
Pretty much got half his yards in the last two seconds of the game.
He was supposed to have a monster game, but instead ended up receiving for 86 yards and no TD’s.
Fantastic.
Everyone
Cross your fingers the Bears Defense has an amazing game, with 5 return TD’s, 4 interceptions, and 7 fumbles. I need the points.
Cleveland Defense
gets a pick. Maybe they’ll run the ball and run out the clock. (unlike us).
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:07 PM MST reply actions
@ least they ran 3 times
punt and Lina will have under 1 minute with no TO’s to try to win.
I need a good punt here.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:09 PM MST reply actions
YES!!!
punt goes out of bounds at the 4.
LETS GO BROWNS!!! DEFENSE!!!
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:10 PM MST reply actions
This is killing me
The Browns play like the Cards. Almost a sack—instead a 40 yard completion.
12 seconds left. no TO’s get a stop—-please.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:14 PM MST reply actions
OMG
completion to the 25.
and Out of bounds to stop the clock.
So long KO pool.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:16 PM MST reply actions
REPLAY RULES SUCK
he made the catch—but was touched inbounds. clock should ahve kept running and ran out before the spike.
But its not reviewable.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:17 PM MST reply actions
AND HE MISSES THE FG
I live on. And I’ll never have to pick the Browns or Jake Delhomme ever again.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:20 PM MST reply actions
Back to real life
With Ram and Seahawk loses today (likely), and win tomorrow..The Cards are still in the race for the division title.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 2:43 PM MST reply actions
If the Rams and Seahawks lose today, and we win tomorrow
Then our Playoff hopes quadruple. If that were to happen, then we’d only be a game behind 1st place (I think).
Did anyone see that Buffalo guy drop that pass when he was wide open in the endzone?
You start to feel bad for them after a while. A friend of mine is from Buffalo and he can’t believe how they keep finding ways to lose.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I wasn't watching that game
But I feel sorry for the Bills fans. But whenever they have a home game, it seems that there’s a pretty big crowd, so for that, I want the Bills to win, because then their fans will have a reason to come to the game.
The Bills are easily
The best 2-9 team in the league.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 3:47 PM MST up reply actions
Cleveland just has bad luck when it comes to QB's
I think the last time they had a good QB was in 1930.
They are so lucky that kicker missed
Delhomme almost cost them the game. McCoy looks like he could be the guy there for a while though.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I'm sooo lucky he missed
I had Cleve in my KO pool.
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 3:53 PM MST up reply actions
1st Interception by Vick of the year
Chris Harris picked him off in the endzone.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Jason Cole thinks this is Fitz's last season with the Cardinals
It’s funny how every sports writer in the world seems to forger that Fitz has already clearly stated that he’s going to play for the Cardinals as long as they want him.
If they have to come up with a false news story, at least come up with something better.
Link?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I did not realize that he was that fat.
Cole hates the Cardinals anyway though.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Well if we don't upgrade at the QB position, why would he want to stay here?
by CanadianCard on Nov 28, 2010 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
Jason Cole
Is saying this is Fitz’s last year here. He’s not even willing to consider that we’re going to look around for good QB’s this off-season.
Cutler is on fire right now
7 of 10 for 132 yards and 3 TDs.
Right now the Bears are an Offensive Line that can pass block away from being a great team.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Denver is so bad that it looks like the Rams are going to get their first road win against them...
They should really fire McDaniels. The idiot trades away every good player they have: Cutler, Marshall, Hillis, etc.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Bradford scares me
I’ve never seen a rookie qb who makes a bunch of unknown wr’s look good, it should be the other way around!
He’s gonna be a headache for years to come.
by CanadianCard on Nov 28, 2010 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
Breaston or Rhodes
Since they have had past experience at that position.
by CanadianCard on Nov 28, 2010 4:21 PM MST up reply actions
I have a question for all:
On a pass play, the wr runs out of bounds on his own then comes back in and is the 1st to touch the ball what is the penalty? I know it’s illegal touching but what is the penalty?
pretty sure it's 5 yards
No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Nov 28, 2010 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
They definitely are, which really pisses me off
by CanadianCard on Nov 28, 2010 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
That's not really a bold prediction
They have the next Payton Manning and a very improved defense. Like I said in another post, they’re going to be a headache for years to come.
by CanadianCard on Nov 28, 2010 4:59 PM MST up reply actions
+10000
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Chiefs are killing the Seahawks
Looks like the Rams will beat Denver.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
They should fire McDaniels after this season no matter what though.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Kyle Orton is the guy keeping them in this game
by CanadianCard on Nov 28, 2010 5:18 PM MST up reply actions
Denver still has a chance...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Rams punt.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Denver blocked it, but it went forward
Denver ball at midfield.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Broncos fail on 4th down
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I tried watching one from last season online.
I couldn’t muster enough interest to pay much attention to it.
+1
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
On to Colts/Chargers
So far, I’m 10 of 14 picking games.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Betting with my dad and a few other people
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Nov 28, 2010 8:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Web definition if this in fact what you were looking for...
An “exclusive” franchise player — not free to sign with another club — is offered a minimum of the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position as of April 16, or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater.
It's cool
That Matt Leinart holds the record for “Most passing yards by a rookie QB in a single game” with 405 against the Vikings in 2006.
When I hear things like that, I start to wonder, “What if we had never cut him…”.
I think Stafford broke that record against Cleveland last year
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Nov 28, 2010 8:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
After watching the Colts game
If they lost Manning, it would have an even bigger impact than when we lost Warner. They look like they would be a 2-13 or 4-12 team without him.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
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