Arizona Cardinals Question Of The Day: Do You Want McNabb Now?
by JoeCB1991 on Nov 3, 2010 11:34 AM MDT
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PrintQuick question for everyone (brought up earlier in a FanPost by jesseb). After Donovan McNabb was benched for Rex Grossman at the end of the Redskins/Lions game for what was apparently a hamstring injury that kept him out of practice last week and they didn't know if he could run the two minute drill because of it, there is some talk about Donovan McNabb either being released during the season, especially if Sexy Rexy unleashes some dragons and plays well if McNabb really is benched during another game, and I think it is very likely that McNabb won't resign with Washington and he will be a Free Agent at the end of the year.
Now, most of you probably know that I was against bringing in McNabb, or Bulger, or any of these other guys during the offseason because I thought that Matt Leinart would get at least until the bye week to see if he could be the guy following the retirement of Kurt Warner. But I was wrong, and after an ugly spat with the coach Leinart was released, and Coach Whiz decided to go with Derek Anderson (inconsistent at best), Max Hall (A rookie who is struggling, but has some potential), and John Skelton (Ton of potential, but too raw to even think about letting him get extended playing time this year. His struggles in the final two preseason games against 4th stringers are examples of this) and the Cardinals offense has basically fallen off a cliff. And right now, I'm at the point where I think McNabb, Bulger, Vick, Orton (there was talk about him being traded during the offseason I think), any of these guys who were being discussed as possible people who could go to another team via Trades of Free Agency before the year began would be an improvement right now. I flip flopped, and I don't care, we are all frustrated right now and we want to see SOMETHING that can improve the offense.
Now, last week we saw that Derek Anderson can provide some spark for this offense when he was connecting on some deep throws, but the guy still has his issues where he can miss wide open receivers on short routes, rifle passes that need touch on them, or he can throw back breaking Interceptions. But unless Anderson can improve throughout the year, someone else will have to come in after the year is over.
Lets take a look at some stats for McNabb, and both of the Cardinals Quarterbacks throughout this season so far. The extra numbers in some of the stats for the Cardinals are their ranking in the NFL for that stat.
| Name | Attempts | Completions | Completion % | Yards | Touchdowns | Interceptions | Yards Per Attempt | QB Rating | Longest Pass |
| Max Hall/Derek Anderson | 230 | 121 | 52.6 (31st) | 1,173 (30th) | 5 (32nd) | 12 (2nd) | 5.8 (30th) | 55.7 (31st) | 37 (31st) |
| Donovan McNabb | 277 | 159 | 57.4 | 1,971 | 7 | 8 | 7.1 | 76.0 | 62 |
Looking at McNabb, he isn't having a great year in Washington (with offensive weapons that I don't think are as good as the ones he had with the Eagles, or what he would have here), but he would be a vast improvement over what we have right now. And if Whisenhunt wants to throw the ball downfield, McNabb can still do that, he has at least 5 passes that have gone for more than 50 yards (looking at the ESPN page I got these numbers from), and he is 6th in the NFL in passing yards. He may be in the latter stages of his career, but he is still a good Quarterback and if you have some good weapons for him to throw too he can be very productive. And we have heard that McNabb is interesting in playing with the Cardinals before he retires, mainly because he lives here I would assume, and I have also heard that he gets along with Larry Fitzgerald pretty well.
So, what does the rest of RotB think? If McNabb is released by the Redskins either during the season, or after it ends, would you be in favor of picking up McNabb? Right now, I'm all for it even though I wasn't during the offseason.
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Makes no damn sense
Why would we want to sign McNabb? So we can face the QB issue again in a year or two. Why are we so quick to want to pick up old has-beens? Warner worked out for us, for two years. We need to develop some younger guys that we can have at QB for ten years. Skelton deserves a shot. He is not going to develop as a thrid stringer who is inactive on Sundays. Make him the number two and give him some time. And hell, if we have a losing season (which all real Cardinals fans should used too) we can pick up one of the stellar QB’s coming out in this years draft. Or we can stick to our old ways and have a revolving door at QB.
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California." - Edward Abbey
Skelton
Would be worse than Hall if he had to play.
Just my guess going from what I’m hearing about him.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
No way anybody can be worse than Max
That guy was horrible to the Nth degree.
by theuglytruth on Nov 4, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Skelton
Could be MUCH MUCH worse.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
This season yes, next season NO
I live just north of Philly and have watched McNabb his entire career. While he is certainly better than any QB option we have this season, I wouldn’t want him to be the QB we rely on for the next 2-3 years. He is nowhere near the QB he used to be, weapons or not. At best he would be a stopgap this season to try and salvage this year.
I don’t know what the long term answer is, I guess that’s why I’m a car salesman and not the GM or Coach of an NFL team. I don’t think any QB on our roster is thye long term answer, but that’s me as a fan.
Honestly, I think we either need to sign the best FA QB available in the offseason or trade for someone with a few years experience in the NFL.
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
I was in the same boat as you.
I hated the idea of Mcnibbles coming to Arizona. I was thinking Leinart was going to lead this team…whoops. We don’t even have anything that resembles a QB at this point in time. I would be excited to sign Rex Grossman for crying out loud…scratch that…We need to do something and Mcnibbles would be a good place to look. I think he might get snatched up in waivers before we could get to him, but obviously Anderson is crap and should be cut and hall and skelton are no where near ready to start. We need someone to QB and getting someone in the draft isn’t going to be any better. Sam Bradfords don’t fall in your lap every day. Leinart was our up and comer after Warner, what happened there, I don’t know. We need some time to raise our next up and comer and Mcnibbles could give us that time.
+1
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Anyone who thinks we're not better off having McNabb for a couple of seasons is a tard!
He’s an immediate upgrade over whoever we have or will have and would give us time to groom a rookie, while still managing to win some ball games and keep Fitz happy.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Nov 3, 2010 12:45 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Skelton must be a bust!
If JoeCB1991 keeps hearing from people in the know, that Skelton is not ready and won’t be ready for many moons, that is the same as admitting that he is a bust! A short term, #3 backup at best. I have never heard of a prospect having his Psyche protected from damage a little rookie learning under fire might cause. What, is this guy a stud or a ballerina? This is totally rediculous.
I am tired of the excuses for Anderson, then excuses for Hall, now we don’t want Skelton to get his feelings hurt. This is just great, Whiz has created a glass house where everyone is walking around on egg shells. Afraid to call a spade a spade, but willing to have two terrible QBs throw the ball into coverage.
If Whiz is acting like an average NFL coach and is reading defenses and evaluating his own players honestly, we are leading our division, no problem.
Please, someone, JoeCB, Andrew, anybody? How can you guys call yourself Cardinals fans and accept all this bullshit as Gospel? You guys, in your need to be seen as “good fans” are looking more like NFL neophytes. If this is not your first season watching professional football, then you are in the wrong department of the hobby store. In fact you guys need to take a trip to Disneyland, they have a special place, where you guys would feel right at home, Fantasyland. Where all the Whizards are “Great”.
Sorry, I don’t want to offend you guys, but this is the worst display and execution, on so many fronts, by an NFL team and it’s coaches and front offices that it just makes me ill!
Please forgive my diatribe.
F#*K the meds, I need a drink!
I'm not saying that he is a bust
I’m saying that he is too raw, and he won’t be ready until at least next season.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Or What?
We can’t allow his self image to get injured! What list is that, “Not mentally stable enough to play”? Please, let’s get real.
We are painted into a corner with no way out? I refuse to buy that line of resoning. If these guys are old enough to train in the military and fight and die for their country, why can’t they be “man enough” to play the game, they have been involved in since they were 9 or 10 yrs. old. Makes no sense!
Please educate me.
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 3, 2010 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
No, because of how raw he is
He would not be much of an improvement over Hall or DA.
He played at Fordham, he did not go up against anything close to an NFL level Defense, he didn’t even go up against a Defense that was at the same level as MICHIGAN’S Defense, and he had a very limited playbook. And in the Preseason, they had to simplify the playbook for him (he said it after the Houston game).
An NFL Defense would have a field day with exotic blitzes and coverages against him until he learns how to read them, and that would probably take a while. You have to give the guy time to develop before you throw him out there.
In the Preseason, he was good in his first game, but after that he was 3 out of 9 for 38 yards and a pick. And that was against 3rd or 4th string Defenses. Because of that he ended the Preseason 8 of 15 for 122 yards, a TD, a Pick, and a 74.9 QB rating. Again, he was going against 4TH STRING DEFENSES.
Is THAT what you want to see!
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
You will see a lot of this.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a3c3a4/Tryon-gets-a-pick
By the way, they got the ball at the Washington 35 on that drive, and they were at the 20 because of a PI penalty.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I'm with Joe on this one
How often does ANY rookie QB play well right off the bat? I can think if 2 or 3 in the past decade that led their team to the playoffs, and all of them were top rated draft picks who had pretty solid teams around them to begin with.
Throwing a 5th rounder who didn’t play for a big school, nor played against future NFLers on a regular basis is just as asinine as starting Max Hall and expecting that he would be the next Kurt Warner IMMEDIATELY.
We all know our QB situation is horrible, but how is starting the 3rd string guy going to change that? Skelton couldn’t even beat out Max Hall for the 2nd string spot, how do you expect he’ll do any better on the field? he won’t, and there’s no reason to throw him in the lion’s den and possibly ruin his psyche?
There have been a lot of ghighly drafted QBs who failed and have said that the pressure to perform right away drove them away. Look at Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, David Carr, all players who were more prepared than Skelton and had all the intangibles, and were throqwn in the fire right away. All failed. For every Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Sam Bradford, there are 10 QBs who failed.
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
I agree with both you guys
Many of the successful QB’s in the league sat behind a starter for a couple of years before they played well. Outside of the guys mentioned above by rob, there are few other rookie starters still playing that are doing well.
Brady, waited behind a decent QB. Rodgers, waited his turn. Eli Manning waited behind Warner. Kolb waited. Young waited behind Montana. Etc. If Skelton has the mental tools to pair with the physical tools he has great potential. If he doesn’t have the mental tools (basically isn’t smart enough) he will end up like DA. A cannon of an arm but no ability to read a defense and find his next progression (DOUCET WAS OPEN!)
by Jesse Reynolds on Nov 3, 2010 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
What about Roethlesberger, Flacco, Palmer, Sanchez, Stafford!
Now they all had different degrees of success but they won ball games or did very well. I understand both sides of this arguement but I think the kid is only going to get better from experience in a game. I’d rather be beating teams by a large margin and he getting to go in and clean up the scraps, unfortunatly that is not a luxury we have.
Is there anyway we could talk the Redskins into releasing McNabb? I know the trade deadline has been reached but can they make a good faith offer like a draft pick promise or something?
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
Flacco, Roethlisberger, Sanchez, Ryan
They all had teams with a running game and Defense.
Palmer sat for a year and he got to learn the game for a while before he went in.
Stafford had a QB rating in the 60s and only won 2 games in his rookie year, but he did show some moxie.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
^supposedly
we HAVE a running game and defense we just don’t use it. not siding either way just saying that logic doesn’t fly considering that’s what the ‘Pittsburgh West’ mentality Whiz was going to bring was supposed to evolve into from the beginning, now we have all the tools and he’s refusing to use them.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Nov 3, 2010 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions
For once I totally agree AZ, +1 you old coot!
Manning (the good one)struggled greatly his first season and basically had to learn trial by fire. I Skelton is not there yet maybe he’ll more likely never be. They need to decide what they’re trying to do here. If they want to win out they need to make a push to aquire anyone else than who we have. If they are chalking it up to a rebuilding year, then I say throw Skelton in there and see if he grows. He doesn’t have to be lights out immediatly, just sow improvement.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
The coaching staff said he would take 2 years to develop.
It’s not just Joe’s opinion or a scoop from the towel boy. They made that statement just after drafting him. There was never the intention that he would start or see any significant play time his rookie year. If he was ready to go now why did an undrafted guy like Hall get past him in the depth chart? Another Whisenhunt conspiracy to keep the team down?
Sometimes I wonder if you watch football at all
Carson Palmer was the #1 pick overall and sat his entire first season, by your logic I guess he’s a bust as well (and Marvin Lewis and Ken Zampese don’t know what they’re doing either).
The worst display and execution you’ve ever seen? How long have you been a Cardinals fan?
by Long Beach on Nov 4, 2010 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Accepted.
OK, let’s say I accept your premise and I do not take you for a complete idiot, which I don’t. This means that if we are serious about making a run at the playoffs this year, some simple, easy decisions must be made.
Skelton is just taking up space on the bench, get him out of the way. Find a replacement that can actually be fielded, search everywhere, CFL, Arena, It does not matter because he will be mostly handing the ball off or keeping it for QB draws. So make sure the replacement has size and does not have a history of fumbling.
Hall is too small and does not have the talent nor the football IQ to either call his own plays when necessary or run QB draws. Release him and stop wasting everyone’s time and energy. Again, find a replacement where ever you can find it. He should be similar to Skelton’s replacement in size and with good hands with no history of putting the ball on the ground. It should not matter what professional league he comes from as long as he is servicible.
Start Anderson as a QB that hands the ball off and calls his own number on short yardage situations. Rotate these guys until one of them steps up play and takes the role of starter from the other two by outstanding execution on the field and demanding respect from the rest of the team.
In other words, get rid of the dead wood now, and make something happen! Even it it is wrong, do something and things will work themselves out. Sit on your hands and everyone will kick your ass, just because they can.
Retiree, this aint the 50's.
Get rid of 2 of your 3 qbs and just go “magically” find a better qb in the UFL or CFL that every other scout for every other team just happened to miss? You cant just rotate the qbs at your own will and expect to even stay competitive. Howd Rex Grossman do running the 2 minute drill when he was rotated for McNabb Sunday? I believe he fumbled on the first play for a Lion touchdown. Im fairly new to this blog but most of your comments have blown me away by how loony they have been
by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 3, 2010 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree but we were winning games rotating Warner and Leinart a few years back so that is not out of the question...
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
Warner could do anything.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Do you guys realize
In all 3 Super Bowls Kurt played in he had to stand on the sidelines while the other team ran its 2 minute drill to try and win the game. Im sure it drives him crazy that he never had the chance to drive his team down the field to win the game. Having to stand on the sidelines and hope his D would hold to win the game must drive him nuts still.
by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 3, 2010 8:36 PM MDT up reply actions
And each of the Super Bowls he played in are probably in the top 10 for "Best Super Bowl" games.
I wish he could have retired with 3 rings though…
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
At least he got 1
Dude deserved it.
by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 3, 2010 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions
1--2--3--Rotate!
We aren’t rotating QBs now? What the f*#k, I could have sworn that we have not kept the same QB taking snaps in consecutive games, sometimes not even in consecutive quarters.
You are correct of course, this is the NFL version of Looney-Toons.
As you suspect, it has not been successful, but I am not advocating something different than what is already happening, I want a change of personel. Like new QBs.
There is no magic involved if a concerted effort is made to find this talent, I believe there are at least two possibilities out there, NFL diamonds in the rough, but an effort must be made to find them. I am not ready to throw up my hands and surrender the season by not even trying to make something happen. Warner was on the trash heap before he made it, twice!
I would rather be a insane fighter throwing blows and giving myself a punchers chance than to be a timid fighter that refuses to take a chance for fear of getting hit. A sane coward is still a coward.
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 4, 2010 12:28 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm going to assume
that you didn’t retire from being an NFL Coach or GM of any kind, which gives me reason to question your idea of finding a QB in the AFL, USFL, CFL, wherever. If you are serious about making a playoff run this season, we needed to address this issue before the season started. At this point of the season, I think it’s fair to say that the Cardinals organization messed that up.
Having said that, signing some journeyman QB who couldn’t stay on an NFL roster is going to be no better than the garbage we’ve been watching each week. Our best chance to win a few games this season is sticking to what we have: a mediocre QB (who already knows the offensive system in place), a running game with a lot of potential, and a defense with a lot of potential. IF (still a big IF this season) the coaches put the right game plans in place, and the QB play doesn’t lose games for us, the Cardinals can still make the playoffs in this craptastic division.
Focus number 1 in the offseason has to be a QB who can WIN some games for us.
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
by robloosli on Nov 3, 2010 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1, more LSH too! That kids is a playmaker...
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
by boogatt66 on Nov 3, 2010 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can not wait till next year!
We have half a season left in this campaign.
I did not retire from the NFL, I retired from my small business. A business that I fought for and made difficult changes just to keep the doors open in tough times. Persistence paid off, and my venture succeeded. If I had thrown up my hands and told myself that It was too difficult and probably futile to try and find the answers I needed, I would have sealed my fate as a failure. Thank goodness, I had faith and did not listen to the naysayers. I retired in comfort.
I am asking the Cardinals organization to do the same as any other business would do in the middle of the fiscal year, search for the answers and not give up. Have faith that talent is overlooked everyday but destiny will never put things together if no attempt is made to flush it out.
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 4, 2010 12:45 AM MDT up reply actions
AZ pops bottles with hotty widowers in Sun City all day long ya'll!
Why you ask??? He’s a fighter with a “never say die” kind of attitude and a knack for ushering change when needed. I like this guy and I think Whiz could really take a few notes!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
What kind of samll business?
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
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Work hard and make concessions but keep hope alive. Make the hard decisions and don’t be afraid to look for talent. When everyone is hungry, talent will make itself visable.
Or you can collect unemployment and depend on the government for a check every two weeks and some food stamps. The food banks are wiiling to fill your pantry if you are too lazy to work, if that is your cup of tea and you can look at yourself in the mirror. I smiled the hardest when I worked twice as hard for half the money and knew in my heart that it was me and the Lord in a partnership, that was feeding me and the families of my guys.
Give up? I don’t think so, I’d rather figure it out now, and enter the playoffs, head held high. Better than getting a high draft pick and depend on some young gun to bail me out. Not my style.
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 4, 2010 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions
McNabb would be better than Anderson
or at worst a better back up than Hall. Unlikely that he could walk in cold to a new system and thrive. Picking him up this season would make signing him next more probable. He would be a stop gap until we get the next guy. Have to believe he’s on the downslope of his career. If he is picked up Hall should be the odd man out.
Dont know how you think Hall should be the odd man out
Its not like Anderson still has untapped potential. We all know what Anderson is and while Hall has stunk up the joint, he is still a rookie. Id be shocked if Anderson was with the team after this season.
by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 3, 2010 8:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Hall has played like total crap.
Skelton is the guy they traded up for in the draft to develop. Anderson is a veteran who has some experience with this offensive system. If the Cardinals pick up McNabb I don’t see them cutting Anderson to keep Hall. With how he has played there is no longer any reason to suspect that Hall gets picked up by another team if he is cut. If they want to keep him around they could easily place him on the practice squad. I’m not considering next season at this point, only this season. There is no assurance that any of these guys will be around next year, including McNabb if acquired. I’d say Skelton has the best shot of any of them to still be here.
Agreed
Hall is done. Honestly, he doesn’t have the physical skill set to play QB in the NFL. Skelton has the better skill set, which gives him huge upside compared to Hall. IMO: Hall is done after the season.
by theuglytruth on Nov 4, 2010 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions
JaMarcus Russell had a good skillset too.
What did he do with it?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Well have to agree to disagree
I dont know if I could take another year of Anderson. I cringe every time he throws the ball. A couple of news outlets showed the look on his face after the game ending interception and I gotta tell you, ive seen that look enough allready this year
by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 3, 2010 9:10 PM MDT reply actions
if we don't address this situation before next year
i will drink myself into a coma
by cardsfanforlife24 on Nov 3, 2010 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
BOTTOMS UP!
It appears that this Arizona Cardinals franchise is willing to listen to the “fans from France” who are already walking around with their hands up in surrender.
This is Arizona guys, the “Wild West”, strap on a weapon (or two) and join me, Doc Holiday and the boys over at the OK Corral. We ain’t going to take this shit sitting down. I know Doc is sick, but he sure the hell ain’t dead either!
Neither are the Cards. I expect a club from the desert to scap and fight, tooth and nail, with any varment that tries to pick our bones prematurely.
I want this Football team to act like a business venture and make things happen, excuses are not action.
If a kid is too green to help in the fight, send him back to his mama. If a guy can’t be trusted with his weapon and is as likely to shoot one of his own guys as much as the bad guys, ship him the hell out before he hurts us more!
There are some good guns out there that are willing to stand on principal and all they want is a chance to stand on the “Big Stage” and get a shot off. Seek and yee shall find, run and you’ll catch a bullet in the back!
Suck it up Cards!
Cranky Old Geezer? Damn straight, we earned ours, time for you youngins to earn yours. One drawback though, it takes balls and a willingness to buck the odds. If you are afraid of failure, put on a dress and go play dolls with the other little gals, and for God’s sake don’t get dirty!
OUT!
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 4, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
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