Whisenhunt Announces That Anderson Will Remain As Starting Quarterback
by JoeCB1991 on Nov 30, 2010 1:08 PM MST
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Albert Einstein: "The Definition of Insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results."
In his Press Conference this morning, Coach Whiz announced that Derek Anderson will still be the Starting Quarterback going into Sundays matchup with the Rams.
He also said that at this time, Derek Anderson gives the Cardinals the best chance to win (what does that say about John Skelton and Max Hall?). He also said that he doesn't want to play Skelton this year because he doesn't want to run the risk of "damaging a young player" by having him play. I'd assume that is because of how raw Skelton is.
Whiz also said that there is a lot the team has to fix up right now, and that the joking around between Anderson and Deuce Lutui is very minor compared to everything else that is wrong. He also said it is "Tough to say that we don't have a bad football team when we've lost this many games in a row". but he thinks the players feel like they can still win, and they are going to keep working at that.
Leave your thoughts in the comments. The Bird Droppings post will also be up later today.
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ARE YOU KIDDING!!!!
how can he blame the team!!! i am so sick right now! this is NOT a bad team!! it is only a bad QB and that means its the coachs fault cause he wont take responsibility for messing up by grabing this joke from cleveland……ask any browns fan and they will first say thank you and then i told you so!!!! this is whizs fault and if he doesnt own up soon he will be hanging out with childress and phillips..
by snarrfsnarrf on Nov 30, 2010 1:21 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
It’s a crappy team effort. DA can't take all the blame
Not a bad team? I’m not going to say DA isn’t bad, but the rest of the team is sucking pretty hard now too. First play of the game and Gore rips one for 25 yds and even after Gore was out, they let Westbrook run for 100+. DRC is his normal non-hitting self, and getting beat. I’m beginning to think he was a flash in the pan. There is blame to go around equally, including the coaching, but I put most of this on the players this time.
Changes have to be made
We started off the season talking about “Pittsburgh style football”, as we are far from it.
-Anderson wouldn’t start in the CFL, but some how he has won the coaching staff over. Am i the only one sitting here saying WTF is wrong with them.. LIke its not hard to understand. If Passing the ball in general isn’t working and you drafted a guy to run the ball, wouldn’t you run the ball? But they like to keep the non-playmakers on the sideline. Hightower, Anderson, Haggins, all of thenon-electric players should be riding pine now that the season is done. Let Daryl Washington play. Let Skelton play. Let Beanie play. I do not get why there are no changes after we continuously loose? it makes no sense… obviously they dont give us the best chance at winning.
-Whiz shouldn’t be calling the plays anymore. Sure we get behind in games but regardless we pass the ball THE MOST in the league. – So much for running the ball this year.
-Bill Davis must get his play calls from Madden 2005 cause he is terrible. We need a new DC
by Peter Jacob Hornig on Nov 30, 2010 1:21 PM MST reply actions
Anderson wouldn’t start in the CFL
Haha! YES!
Stumper and the Juice! Love Cards RBs with nicknames, they're always the best!
by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 1, 2010 8:07 AM MST up reply actions
This is B.S.
I think they could cruise the waivers wire and find a more servicable QB than D.A.. Shit, let’s go Testaverde! (Half joking here)
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
McCown
Let bring back Josh McCown.. atleast he threw more TDs then INTs..(Im only kidding too).. But DA blows, and he needs to be Waived ASAP.
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#FireBillDavis
#WaiveAnderson
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Lets get LUCKy baby!
by Peter Jacob Hornig on Nov 30, 2010 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
Fitz had a 1400 year with McCown and the "bad" Warner
He almost had 1000 with Leinart in 2006 even though he missed 3 1/2 games.
What does that say about DA if he can’t get Fitz the ball better than they did?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Just noticed that I spelled Announces wrong in the title.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Nov 30, 2010 1:42 PM MST via mobile reply actions
This really is getting out of control...
Its amazing how far Whiz’s stubbornness can go… and I agree what then does that have to say about Hall and Skelton?? This is bad… What worries me most is that I somehow don’t see Whiz getting Andrew Luck or any other QB with our early picks because of the “trust” he has in his young QBs…
Oh well, at least I can play DAs tantrum over and over again, brightens my day every time I see it.
Thank you Kent Somers
by GDLCardsfan on Nov 30, 2010 1:49 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I am typically the one defending the Cardinals but there is nothing left to defend
Since the 3-2 start, every game since they have gotten worse.
as I have said before, it is hard enough when losing Warner, then pile on Boldin Dansby and Rolle…that is a tough hill to climb
but you get to 3-8 by having all of your best players fail to play well. Since when does Larry Fitzgerald drop TD passes? you can blame DA all you want, and rightfully so, but all the others need some blame too. Fitz has actually had an ok year, but he has dropped a bunch of passes.
DRC has looked awful. so much for growing into a dominating player. it has been VERY easy to beat him consistently. there is something wrong there. his heart for whatever reason is not in it. A-dub, whiffing on a sure tackle at the goal line? these are not the Cardinals we have come to love. something is VERY wrong with this team.
It is frustrating to say the least, but mind boggling how quickly they the Cards have nose dived into being THE WORST TEAM IN THE NFL
horrific performance last night. embarrassing. yeah, DA sucks, but so does the rest of the team.
Whisenhunt’s play calling? you get a much needed turnover trailing 21-6 within 2 mins of halftime. get the ball in their territory.
THREE STRAIGHT PASSING PLAYS??
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I'm going to disagree on one small point from your post
these are not the Cardinals we have come to love
If memory serves, for the majority of the 22 years I have been following this team, we have been terrible, and it seems that this years team is more in line with the Cardinals I have loved and loathed for the last 22 years. It looks as if we had a flash in the pan 3 year decent run, and we’re back to the same old Cardinals that we’ve always loved.
Now I’m not saying I’m ok with it, just pointing out the irony this season has brought out in our fans.
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
And I admit
I don’t know how to properly use the quote feature when commenting because that above doesn’t look quite right.
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
I just highlight the thing I want to put in the quote box
And hit the button.
How did you do it?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
oh we aren't disagreeing....
I know what you mean but thats not what I meant. What I meant is, since Whiz took over it has been a climb to respectability. and this has been a team we fell in love with for obvious reasons….and a lot of the talent is still there from our playoff teams.
I think it is too early to give up and feel like we lost everything that was gained in the past few years. while it is hard to be optimistic by the way they have played this year, I am not throwing in the towel quite yet.
although it is boggling how at 3-8 the Whiz wouldn’t start Hall or Skelton and fire Davis. boggling.
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But!
In all those terrible years there was never the groundwork laid for the expectations like we have this year. If we had a QB that could look at more than one receiver on any given play, it would be a very different year for us.
Stumper and the Juice! Love Cards RBs with nicknames, they're always the best!
by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 1, 2010 8:10 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on Whiz...
I have been truly disgusted by how he has been running the team this year. He may be a great coach but what he has done with the qb situation the play calling and his damn stubbornness is down right pathetic. I honestly do not believe that anderson gives us the best chance to win i mean ok sure he isnt been turning it over AS much he is not moving the O his bad accuracy has lead to injuries to our wr and at this point i want to see what skelton can do because honestly what do we have to lose. There better be a new qb here in az, an O coord, a D coord, and several other changes over the offseason or this will happen all over again.
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Nov 30, 2010 2:41 PM MST reply actions
Niner fan here asking...
Has your team lost its freaking mind? Anderson never had a chance and it would have been comical if it wasn’t so sad. I can understand that your options are limited, but what could he have done to put trust in the coaching staff’s hearts? Did they feel bad for him because he, “put my heart and soul into this, every week”? What is wrong with Skelton? Did he break both of his legs or something? The season is over, see what you can assemble for next year. DA should retire and join the media.
Skelton is from a school where the competition was awful
Defenses worse than the one Michigan has, and a very small offensive playbook. He was always talked about as a project.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Joe Flacco went to Deleware. Rothlesberger went to Miami of Ohio. Their playbooks werent very big either.
F Dallas
by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 30, 2010 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
It is a little bit different though
From what I recall, Flacco was a highly sought after recruit, and he spent a year at Pit (same place Larry Fitzgerald went, and a school in a BCS Confrence), but he transferred after one year because Tyler Palko was the established starter there and Delaware (FCS School, Division 1A) gave him a chance to start.
Big Ben also went to am FCS Division1A school, but he was very successful there and he led them to an unbeaten record in 2003.
Now with Skelton, he also went to a FCS Division 1A school, but Fordham is in the Patriot League which is much smaller than the Big East and the MAC (I can’t even find a school from the Patriot League in NCAA 11) and his record was 4-6 in his final year with Fordham so even if he was productive there he isn’t as much of a draw as Ben who was unbeaten in his final year, and Flacco went 8-3.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
good research
but what would be the harm in giving Skelton a chance? and if that is too much of a “risk” put Hall back in, I don’t get why not.
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
I have no problem with playing Skelton right now
But I think it would take a while to see some good play out of him.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
and what if Skelton doesn't play at all this year
If we’re really going to draft a QB in the first next year, what are we saving Skelton for?
My nightmare scenerio would be to see DA take every snap the rest of the year then hear Whiz say, “we can’t spend a top draft pick on a QB b/c we don’t know what we have in Hall/Skelton yet.”
by Steamin' Beamin' on Dec 1, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
I really don't get why they are worried about "ruining him"
Unless Whiz thinks that he is going to get David Carr’d behind the Offensive Line.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
wasn't the quote something like he's "afraid of damaging a young player"
by Steamin' Beamin' on Dec 1, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
Yep
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
You really have to wonder why they bothered trading up for him.
If he’s just a project that shouldn’t be put on the field for two years why have bothered? Might as well shelf Anderson at this point and play Hall and Skelton. Let them audition for next year. Honestly though, Skelton is the only one I see remaining on the roster.
Crotch?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Yea good research
Id just like to see what Skelton could do. They have the easiest schedule in the entire NFL for the rest of the season, so if you were gonna throw a rookie in there, now would be the time
F Dallas
by Redbird Nation #1 on Dec 1, 2010 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Regarding Anderson
I’m still wondering what the hell they saw in this guy to start with. I was aghast when they signed him to be the back up, never mind the starter. Whisenhunt won the pissing match with Matt Leinart and lost the season instead. If they don’t bust their asses to fix the QB position this off season they will lose a huge amount of the fanbase growth they’ve built over recent seasons.
well said
I was ok with DA being the backup but once Matty L was cut I knew we’d tank. What kind of talent evaulator looks at DA and thinks he’s the answers.
And if Whiz really knew/thought that Leinart was that bad, then he should have brought in a real QB to compete for the job.
by Steamin' Beamin' on Dec 1, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
Exactly.
I don’t fault Whisenhunt for cutting Leinart. I fault him for not bringing in a viable option to him. Leinart would have been way better than what we’ve seen this season. I don’t know that he would have played up to the money he was going to get the next season. In fact, I doubt it highly. Think we’d be in the same boat looking for a new QB anyway, even if we made the playoffs. With how it stands at least the entire fanbase is behind the idea now. If Leinart had stayed it would become a huge debate, albeit one preferable to this miserable season.
Okay guys enough.
As a fellow Cardinals fan you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. It’s one bad season nothing to get worked up about. Some of you guys are acting like its the damn apocalypse,It’s seriously absurd. We are not the worst team in the NFL the Panthers and Lions are muuuch worse. You get a decent QB and all of a sudden its a different team. Seriously stop acting like babies and just take it for what it is, A bad season
"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!
I would argue the Cardinals are the worst team in the league (even below Carolina) because:
1) They have the easiest schedule in the league and have zero convincing wins.
2) They have been dominated early and often in games, removing any entertainment value from watching.
3) They physically have no excuses for failing so badly. (Carolina has injuries at QB, RB, OT)
4) They are 1-3 against the NFC West.
by ajotanelsona on Nov 30, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
I was expecting this to be more of a rebuilding year
But I never expected it to be this bad. And two of their wins were about as lucky as you can get (the strip by Breaston, and the missed kick by Janikowski) so they are lucky to only be 3-8 right now.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Valid Point.
I think we should just tank to get the highest draft position possible
"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!
Right now
If that results in Andrew Luck, I would be fine with it.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Don't worry, it looks like that's how it's going to be
I honestly think we’ll get maybe one more win this year, and we’ll be in the top 4 for picks in the draft.
Section 103, Row 19
Detroit and Carolina are muuuuch worse than the Cardinals. Are you serious man?
This team has scored 1 touchdown in the last two games and that was on the last play of the game last week. If Detroit played the Cards right now Detroit would win. DRC on Calvin Johnson. Hed get posterized. And the At Carolina in a few weeks isnt money in the bank.
F Dallas
by Redbird Nation #1 on Nov 30, 2010 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
And this is where I begin to turn on Whisenhunt.
Because fuck that moron (Anderson).
Unless this is his way of guaranteeing Luck/Locker.
In which case, woot, we’re getting Luck/Locker!
I'm all for tanking
whats the difference between going 3-13 or 8-8? Well in the NFC West it could mean a playoff spot but in the rest of the league it will only affect our draft pick. This is going to be a losing season, we might as well position ourselves for next year. Play Skelton, he’s a grown-ass man. Unless he has the emotional confidence of a 13 year old girl what is there to ruin? He knows we’re going to lose anyways, might as well get him some experience and give him a taste for the speed of the game. Give our young players some experience and prepare for next year.
I’m all about the long term with this team. People don’t like losing on purpose (even though it seems like we’re doing our best impression of that already) but this franchise goes much further than DA or Whiz. My greatest concern now is that we do another half-ass job of patching up our QB problem this next offseason and Fitz decides to leave after next year. And who could blame him? He has a chance to go down in history as one of the best WR’s in the game, but not with the QB’s we’re providing him.
GO CARDINALS!!!… Front office…
by cardsfanforlife24 on Nov 30, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions
I will be disappointed...
…if the Cardinals miss the opportunity to draft Luck because they manage to win only one more games. Normally I hate the idea of tanking, based on what it does to a team’s chemistry and culture, but the Cardinals need a quarterback SO BADLY that it trumps anything else.
QB?
The Cardinals need a new head coach. One that has the fire and intensity of Singletary. Did you notice how passive Whiz was when questioning the officials? He just mouthed the word “Ok” on every bad call and even refused to throw the challenge flag. We need a coach that wears men’s clothing and isn’t worried about getting his vagina bruised. We need a real Head Coach! Not a coach that gives head.
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 30, 2010 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
hahaha
kudos to the play on words in the last two sentences
by cardsfanforlife24 on Nov 30, 2010 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
You dirty old man
Wash your mouth out with soap!
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Yee Haw!!!
Hi kids, Reiree here.
Like I’ve been saying for a couple of months, the fix is in and don’t expect a win soon. I figure Whiz and Bidwell must be colaborating to arrange for the best pick possible come draft day. Otherwise Whisenhunt would be fired. His apparent incompetence is officially legendary. Imagine, Singletary came to our house and looked like Lombardi compared to “The Whiz”.
Looks to me, that our esteemed head coach has the owners ear. He must have told him that it would be relatively easy to draft a cash cow, like Sanchez, Tebow or Bradford. It probably sounded good to Bidwell with Warner taking the exit. He saw what is going on with the Jets and the Rams. The fans are beating down the gates to get in to those stadiums. The turnstiles are rotating faster than a ceiling fan in Phoenix on the Fourth of July.
Problem is, Whiz is so terrible at playing inept. I don’t believe any head coach in the NFL could be so ignorant. Stupid, actually. His play calling on Offense has been the death nell in every loss this season, no question. It has been as obvious as the wild hairs poking from my nostrils. Wisenhunt is the pimple on the Cardinals franchise’s ass. If you people are still in denial, then it is a sad state of affairs for NFL football in the desert. All of us fans should be totally outraged and pissed off.
This is shameful, but also may be bordering on breaking the rules of team and NFL Franchise behavior. I would not be surprised if the Arizona Cardinals received a huge fine for deliberately losing games. In fact they should be barred from the first five rounds of picks in the up-coming draft. The concept of rewarding teams with high draft picks for losing is absurd. It should revert back to drawing numbers out of a hat, an hour prior to each round, and no trading picks until after the third week of training camp.
Look for the Cards to tank the rest of the season, even against the Panthers. It will be a cluster f#$k by both teams trying to give the game away and still give the appearance of trying to compete. Not going to be pretty.
Whisenhunt and Bidwell will be watching a couple of key matchups to help the Cards reach the bottom of the barrel.
They will be hoping for Buffalo to beat Minnesota and Carolina to get lucky and pull out a win over Seattle. They will have their fingers crossed. Unfortunately for them, keeping the Cardinals out of the win column is only half the battle.
“In Whiz We Trust!” Go Cardinals, blow one for the gipper!
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 30, 2010 5:30 PM MST reply actions
Fire Whiz
Do it. Then our loses won’t be on purpose.
by KholdStare88 on Dec 1, 2010 12:35 AM MST up reply actions
Why quit?
We are only two games back with five to play! I expect an NFL football team to man up and kick some ass on every Sunday left in this season. Anything is possible. That is, unless, the head coach wants to lose!
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 30, 2010 5:47 PM MST reply actions
Personally
I don’t think we’re going to get a franchise QB in the draft. As good as Luck looks, there is absolutely no guarantee he is any good in the NFL. He happens to be the only QB in NCAA I would be willing to take that chance on, but when it comes down to it, that’s all it is-a chance. A coin flip, a roll of the dice.
I don’t know what it will take to turn this team into a contender, I’m not an NFL GM or coach or analyst, I’m just a fan. I do know that for every rookie QB that succeeds and becomes a franchise QB, there are 3 or 4 or possibly more that try and fail to adjust to the NFL. For all of us to pin our future hopes on a coin flip seems as asinine as one of Retiree’s rants about Whiz losing these games on purpose (even if I’m starting to believe him).
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
Rants?
I don’t think expressing an opinion with passion, based on facts and statistics issued by the NFL should be conscrewed as a rant. I did not pull the televised feeds of every Cardinals game out of my ass. If you refuse to believe your own eyes, please do not denegrade my opinion as a die hard football fan that loves smash mouth football, win or lose.
I just happen to abhore, limp wristed pansies, prancing about the field of play in tight pants, and giggling on the sidelines. Playing without intensity or emotion. What an embarrassing and disgusting display and lack of sportsmanship.
The Cardinals were led, of course, by “Whisenhunt’s Folly” and Golden Boy, the one and only “Strong arm hunting”, “The Wood Chuck” himself, Derick (I’m serious as a heart attack) Anderson. The same Derick Anderson that threw a temper tantrum, and stomped out of the locker room. It was pointed out, and rightly so, that he was snickering on the sidelines, while his team was being driven and beaten into the ground by a real NFL Football team. The big baby! Maybe D.A. would be better suited to sell women’s shoes or ladies under garments.
Maybe this could be considered a rant? Maybe?
by Arizona Retiree on Nov 30, 2010 9:58 PM MST up reply actions
Yes it is a rant.
And the problem is, you’ve been ranting for so long that we can no longer take you seriously. Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? “The coach is horrible, fire the coach” is all you ever write, and because of that, even if Whiz is fired, I fully expect you to start saying the same thing the minute we lose a game under the next head coach. And the next, and the next. You’re a broken record.
And no, I’m not a “In Whiz we trust” guy. He’s made some serious mistakes that have turned this season into a nightmare. But like I said, I just can’t take you seriously because “fire the coach” is apparently your solution to everything and it’s obvious you’ll say the same thing about any head coach when the team doesn’t constantly win.
When you put it that way
Reminds me of HardHat.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I've been hard on you AZ
But I can’t help but finally agree that the coaching staff needs a makeover. I don’t necessarily believe that the Cards are tanking games on purpose, but I do believe that Whiz’s insistence of keeping our DC in a job, and DA as the starter, is essentially the beginning of the end. This team looks poorly ran, they make a ton of mistakes, and yes some of that can come back on the players, but it does all start from the top. Look at the Cowboys now. They are playing much better, and have made far less mistakes in the two weeks under a new HC that was simply promoted from the OC. It seems these players do not play for Whiz, and he does not call plays for the talent he has. I think DA would’ve been a serviceable backup… What he was originally brought here for. He has flashes of competency, so in short spurts he could maybe manage the game, but not full-time. Didn’t Leinart get cut because he wasn’t producing first downs in his 10 or so drives he was put in to run during the preseason? Well this offense has looked as bad if not worse than the defense lately. Thats just sad. Its time for change in more places than the QB position.
Lost Season
as I’ve said in other posts, all of this hinges on the mismanagement and assessment of the QB position….The D sucks, too. But ultimately, it all centers around the QB position and the offense to successfully sustain drives and put points on the board.
I think we have fallen victim of what all NFL cities suffer from time to time….coaching/GM ego and arrogance thinking they can do no wrong…..
Lots of bad decisions occurred leading up to this season. Maybe some ‘humble pie’ will be good for Whiz and the team. They are certainly being ridiculed in the national media.
Lots of bad decisions occurred leading up to this season.
Totally, we were pretty much effed before the opening kick off of the first game!
Stumper and the Juice! Love Cards RBs with nicknames, they're always the best!
by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 1, 2010 8:06 AM MST up reply actions
So we're sacrificing the season of 52 other guys
So that Skelton won’t get his fragile pshyche bruised. Talk about a demorilizing feeling for everyone in that locker room, not to mention all of us sitting at home.
by Steamin' Beamin' on Dec 1, 2010 7:51 AM MST reply actions
The flip side of that arguement
is that putting in Skelton is waiving a white flag and saying the season is over, don’t bother anymore. I don’t think that any move at QB could possibly demoralize the team more at this point. Anderson plain sucks. Might as well rotate the rookies playtime. I can’t see that 52 guys are now being sacrificed by playing Anderson though. They were laid out for sacrifice weeks ago. The damage is done.
Of course it's going to be Anderson. What choice do they have? Also a rant.
It’s not like the other two options are going to get you better results on the field.
As is sadly too often the case with the Cards, we fans are reduced to hoping for performances that aren’t totally embarrassing spectacles of humiliating failure and meek submission to opposing teams. To be at least entertainingly competative even in losing is often the best we can expect. That’s what I was expecting this season to be like, what with our somewhat middling D and with such a strong cast of offensive weapons. Even without Warner, a competent lesser QB should still be able to do great things with this team. When a Cardinals team is more typically “Cardinals bad” success was at least within reach, but just out of their grasp. You know there but for a bad play (in the best circumstances), or a bad series or a bad quarter goes our win. But always our band was a bunch of endearing ne’er do wells who you could always envision turning the corner and crushing the hell out of everyone. (Otherwise why would there be so many of us?…though as Cards fans we may have to ask ourselves if we are secretly [or not so secretly] masochists!)
But no, we don’t even get that much this year. And why? Why? I just can’t fathom how Coach Whisenhut let the QB situation get to this point.
Sigh.
Stumper and the Juice! Love Cards RBs with nicknames, they're always the best!
by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 1, 2010 8:05 AM MST reply actions
Whisenhunt is really putting his job in jeopardy by doing this. I like the guy as a coach, but this one is on him alone.
by Winter on Dec 1, 2010 8:14 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I don't think his job is in jeopardy, yet...
I think he gets a mulligan this year because of past success. If he doesn’t learn from this year and correct those mistakes, he could be in trouble in a couple years.
What’s amazing to me is the arrogance, stubbornness, ignorance, or incompetence in totally forfeiting all of the good will in one year. I’m still trying to figure that one out…
So What if??????
We don’t play Skelton at all this season and then we don’t draft a QB next April we don’t want to give up on Skelton?
I don’t understand the thought process behind starting a veteran who has no future on this team once the season is essentially over (and I think the same thing should be done at LB with Washington). If Skelton is fragile enough that a couple bad games will ruin the rest of his career then chances are he wasn’t worth a damn to begin with.
by Steamin' Beamin' on Dec 1, 2010 10:05 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I think in their own demented way, they still think they have a shot....
The last two home games give me no reason to think they’re about to turn it around (was it ever going in the right direction??) We’re lucky if we get 4 or 5 wins at this point.
But for Whiz….They’re two games back and Anderson gives them the best chance. Whiz chose Hall over Leinart and we saw how that ended up. He also made his bed with Anderson and now he’s got to stick to it. I think if they lose to STL or DEN, you may see Skelton for the reasons you list.
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