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Cardinals Lose 10th Game Of The Season In A 19-12 Pillow Fight Against The Carolina Panthers

After the win against the Denver Broncos, a lot of us had hope for this game, the Defense looked good, and the offense showed some promise. Today though was just one big disappointment, and the score final score doesn't show how much Carolina dominated this game. This was a hard game to watch, and the Cardinals were manhandled on both sides of the ball. Simple as that.

Positives:

Larry Fitzgerald had a good game, catching 9 passes (on 10 targets) for 125 Yards, this also got him to 78 catches for 986 Yards (5 Touchdowns) on the season. Fitz also became the second youngest receiver to reach 8,000 Yards (Randy Moss is the youngest) A 41 Yard pass he caught late in the game was also his first catch of over 40 yards since the 2008 season ended, kind of shocking that a guy with as much talent as Fitz hasn't caught a pass over 40 yards in that long, especially considering all of the big plays he had in 2008.

Dan Williams was solid again, he had 5 Tackles and he seemed to be in on a lot of plays. He looks like the answer at Nose Tackle.

Andre Roberts is also looking good as a returner, after LaRod Stephens-Howling left with a hamstring injury he returned his first kick 47 yards. Unfortunately, the Cardinals could do nothing with the good field position.

Calais Campbell and Paris Lenon each had a sack.

John Skelton didn't have a great game, and he struggled early, but in the 4th Quarter with the no huddle offense he seemed to play better, and he finished the game 17 of 33 for 196 Yards and a Pick. He did show some good mobility on some scrambles too. For a rookie making his first road game start, he looked good.

After a Tim Hightower fumble in the Red Zone, Steve Breaston recovered it in the End Zone for a Touchdown. The only one of the game for the Cardinals

The Panthers were 1 of 4 in the Red Zone

Negatives:

To keep it simple, the Cardinals were going up against a struggling team with a 1-12 record, and a struggling Quarterback. They allowed the Panthers to rush for 177 yards on 45 carries, Jimmy Clausen who had only 1 Touchdown against 7 Interceptions threw a Touchdown and he wasn't forced to do very much, and the Cardinals Offense could not get anything done when the Defense actually could get a stop.

The Cardinals were dominated in the Time of Possession battle again, the Panthers had the ball for 37 minutes, the Cardinals had it for 23 minutes.

The Cardinals could not run the ball, Beanie Wells had 11 yards on 8 carries, Tim Hightower had 16 yards on 6 carries, and as a whole the Cardinals had 43 yards on 17 carries. The Offensive Line could not open up any holes for the Backs.

Following an Interception by Skelton, the Panthers scored on their next play with a 16 yard TD pass by Clausen.

The Cardinals had several passes dropped again, I don't remember the exact number but I'm sure it is over 4 or 5. One of the drops was on a play that would have been a Touchdown if it was caught.

Reggie Walker was called for Roughing the Punter

The Cardinals failed to recover both of Jay Feely's onside kick attempts, one of them didn't even make it past the 10 yards that it has to go for the Cardinals to recover it.

The Cardinals were 1 of 3 in the Red Zone

The Cardinals were 4 of 15 on 3rd Down.




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Skeleton is showing some real promise

He made some throws during the no-huddle drives that DA couldn’t make to save his life. Not to mention the poise and the times when he showed the ability to escape pressure and sacks.

by CanadianCard on Dec 19, 2010 2:36 PM MST reply actions  

I like what I've seen from him so far

These next two games will help him a lot.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Considering this was his 1st Road start

I say he did pretty decent. But like you guys said, these next two games will be his real test.

By the way, do you think we’ll see Richard Bartel play any downs this season? Not that I don’t like John Skelton or think he’s playing bad, but I just want to make sure we don’t have a Tom Brady in hiding or something.

by Skii on Dec 19, 2010 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably in the 49ers game

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Your such a dumbass dude!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Dec 19, 2010 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

As a Panthers fan....

I thought he did very well for a rookie.

by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 19, 2010 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

This team is terrible. Some points to note:

Skelton has the tools, but is not anywhere close to being a good QB in the NFL. He didn’t look very good today. With another year to learn the NFL game, maybe he can be a strong starter.

The ending of the Giants/Eagles game was insane. I told my wife just before they punted that they should kick it out of bounds, she asked me why, and before I could answer Desean Jackson was in the end zone, and all she could say was “Oh”.

Tim Tebow is going to be better than anyone will admit. God is on his side. That TD pass proves it.

I hate the Steelers, which causes a ton of fights in my house, as my wife is a Steelers fan. I just blew my nose in her terrible towel, she’s a little angry at me.

The 2010 NFC West is the worst division in the history of football.

I have had a lot to drink today.

I still love the Cardinals, but they piss me off a lot of times.

We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!

"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen

by robloosli on Dec 19, 2010 3:01 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Worst loss of the season for any team

I can’t think of any NFL team that has blown it like the Giants just did.

It is also the only time Joe Buck has called a play with any emotion.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 3:20 PM MST up reply actions  

By the way

The NFC West may be the worst division in the history of football, but it’s still the best division when it comes to the Playoffs.

by Skii on Dec 19, 2010 3:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought Jackson said he learned from his showboating in last weeks game

Did you see him run the goal line on the game ending play? Something youd never see Fitzgerald do

F Dallas

by Redbird Nation #1 on Dec 19, 2010 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

each player is different

Jackson is who he is, he won’t change.

by CanadianCard on Dec 19, 2010 5:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Its a Madden play

Runs out the clock so the other team has no time left

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 5:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Thats the reason people normally do it

Happened in the Stokely play for Denver last season too.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 6:30 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Jackson does it because he's an a-hole.

He’s got a long history of these stunts and sometimes it backfires on him. The player for NY who was right there with him could have taken advantage of the situation if he had studied the opponent better. Should have known Jackson would grand stand like that. Instead he faded off as if Jackson would go straight in.

by hadrarius on Dec 19, 2010 6:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed on him being an arse

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 7:20 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

You blew your nose in her terrible towel? AWESOME :D

I hate the Steelers with the white-hot hate of a thousand suns.

by Zapf on Dec 19, 2010 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow!

The Cards were just dominated……DOMINATED by the worst team in football, which makes us the worst team in football. How is it that I hear no talk in the media about Whisenhunts’ job being in jeopardy?
BTW, the fact that Skelton put up some numbers vs a defense playing passive with a 16 point 4Q lead doesn’t really impress me. They are like getting good numbers in preseason vs 3rd stringers…MEANINGLESS! So far, Skelton has played EXACTLY how I expected him to play, like a rookie from Fordham. No knock on him, big time knock on head coach!
This team is an utter disgrace and is to the point of needing a complete overhaul starting with the head coach. Fire him today and pay Cowher anything he wants to take over this disaster.

by toolman234 on Dec 19, 2010 3:06 PM MST reply actions  

Amen

I think this team needs a prescription to lithium or something.

by Jesse Reynolds on Dec 19, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

THANK YOU!!!

I scrolled all the way down looking to someone who would mention that Skelton’s only success came against a soft prevent defense.

by Steamin' Beamin' on Dec 19, 2010 10:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think we brought that up in the gamethread, but it was about DA not Skelton

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 10:57 PM MST up reply actions  

You don't give up on a Coach after one bad season

That’s not how the NFL works. I’m sorry if that’s not what you want to hear, but I’m pretty sure you and all the other people calling for Coach Whiz’s job are just saying that because you wan’t to see some drastic change. But believe me, you’ll regret firing Coach Whiz the second next season starts.

by Skii on Dec 19, 2010 11:42 PM MST up reply actions  

That's EXACTLY how it works in the NFL

Just look at the firings this year. It’s one thing to lose because of a bad bounce here or there, it is another to get DOMINATED by teams like SF, STL, SEA and now Carolina. Nobody, even the biggest detractors of AZ, could have expected this team to be this bad. Even I, whose biggest fear before we let ML go was that “he might get hurt and we would HAVE TO play DA”, never envisioned the complete collapse of this team. To think that if we were even 6-8 right now we would be in first place. The fact that we were DOMINATED in 3 home games to SF, SEA and STL, teams with a combined 2-16 road record without the wins vs us, speaks volumes about the leadership of this rudderless team. And I haven’t even said yet that I want him fired(except in game threads during particularly STUPID play-calling), only that I don’t understand why NO ONE in the media even questions whether or not he should be retained.
Oh and, btw, if we could somehow convince Cowher to come to the desert, I would drive cross-country and pack Whisenhunts’ bags for him.

by toolman234 on Dec 20, 2010 10:14 PM MST up reply actions  

The failure is your presumption that they would bother to talk about the Cardinals at all.

It’s not that it doesn’t merit discussion by the media. It’s that they couldn’t care less about what happens in Arizona, except for all the dipshits that still think McNabb is on his way here, which is really about McNabb and only concerns the Cardinals incidentally.

by hadrarius on Dec 21, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah hard game to watch. but the only positive i saw is that we moved up in the draft, i think we get the third pick if denver wins in oakland

"Strength lies not in defense but in attack"

by shocker1 on Dec 19, 2010 3:22 PM MST reply actions  

The only problem is

Andrew Luck will be gone by the time it’s our turn to pick. Of course, John Skelton shows real potential, but we kind of need Andrew Luck…

by Skii on Dec 19, 2010 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

In Fantasy Football

I’m down by 80, with Zack Miller in the 2nd Quarter, and Adrian Peterson, Greg Jennings, Deion Branch, and the Patriots Defense to play. All this in the Playoffs.

Yay…

by Skii on Dec 19, 2010 3:24 PM MST reply actions  

I wish we had started John Skelton from Day 1

The way he played today, in the 1st Road Start of his career, he showed real potential (Mostly in the 4th Quarter). We could’ve given him so much experience. I bet we would’ve still had a chance at the Playoffs.

by Skii on Dec 19, 2010 3:28 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

+100000000

Ditto.. He looked good for a rookie. Passes seemed accurate. He made a bad decision on that INT but it’s his 2nd start. I expected it to happen. I don’t expect our top caliber receivers to keep dropping the ball though. They did it last week against Denver and again this week. Beanie and Doucet dropped them early with no pressure on them.

by JohnLV on Dec 19, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Receivers been dropping passes all year

It was easier for everyone to blame the other Qb’s passes

by Dem_Cardz on Dec 19, 2010 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I think they are surprised when a pass is on target now.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 19, 2010 9:57 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The whole NFC West lost today

We had the easiest matchup, and still lost. If we had won, we would’ve been right on track to the Playoffs.

There’s one good thing about this loss. People (Like me) can finally stop clinging on to the last hopes of making the Playoffs, and go into all-out Draft mode.

by Skii on Dec 19, 2010 4:09 PM MST reply actions  

Maybe a-little-out FA mode as well?

We are red, we are white, we are Danish Dynamite!

by Thomaldo on Dec 19, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Heck yeah. It’s time gentlemen, to start thinking of who we can get to fill wholes:

QB
OLB
MLB
RT (Unless they move Levi back and draft a LT)
CB

Section 103, Row 19

by CardsFan08 on Dec 20, 2010 12:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Just disappointing.

agree with everything that’s been said.
With some of the teams that won today, and I hate to say this, but I’m hoping we lose out and get a higher draft pick.

just one other observation –
Couldn’t make the game thread today, but its telling the amount of comments were down by 50%..

by Cardzfan on Dec 19, 2010 7:10 PM MST reply actions  

Question for you Cardinals fans....

What do you think of our rookie DE Greg Hardy?

3 sacks as a rookie 3rd down rusher mostly is impressive to me, one against Michael Oher(his HS and college teammate),also that blocked punt for a safety during the Giants game was damn fine.

Add the fact that all teams will double team him before any other player on our Dline, and ST blockers shy away from his area.

I really don’t see why he isn’t starting instead of Tyler Brayton, who has 0 sacks and causes many containment issues by crashing in.

I think in a few years 31 teams will be very angry at themselves for letting him drop to the 6th round.

by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 19, 2010 7:51 PM MST reply actions  

I apologize

I didn’t notice his play. Not out of disrespect but because I was preoccupied by screaming obscenities at my friends 50" HDTV that magnified every single error in painful, nail-on-chalk-board like detail.

by Jesse Reynolds on Dec 20, 2010 12:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Most Sundays you can find me,

frowning at my 46" TV in the basement anymore.

by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 20, 2010 8:31 AM MST up reply actions  

As a Panther fan

I imagine your levels of pain are very similar to ours. I’ll drink to both of our teams this weekend!

by Jesse Reynolds on Dec 20, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I was gawking at Hardy all day

This guy is going to be great!

He was flashing ability to day, and he has a great motor.

Section 103, Row 19

by CardsFan08 on Dec 20, 2010 12:30 AM MST up reply actions  

He really reminds me of He-who-shall-not-be-named (Peppers).

But I have yet to see Hardy not give 100% on any play like Pep would now and then.

Hardy is just relentless to the ball, they said during OTA’s that he looked good but I didn’t expect him to get pressure on QB’s like this as a rookie.

by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 20, 2010 8:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Injuries mostly.

He had a ton of minor/moderate ones that plagued him but he also wasn’t very consistent in college.

I have yet to see him give up on a play or be a non-factor in the run defense however.

by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 20, 2010 9:18 AM MST up reply actions  

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