Cardinals Place Max Hall on IR Following Shoulder Injury, Sign Richard Bartel

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 7, 2010 3:12 PM MST in NFL Regular Season

The new guy at work in University of Phoenix Stadium

Following the separated shoulder Max Hall suffered in the loss to the Rams after Derek Anderson's benching (due to a concussion), he has been placed on the Injured Reserve. And even if he wasn't, I don't think he would have been healed up enough to play by the time the season ended. The Cardinals signed former 3rd string Redskins quarterback Richard Bartel who the Cardinals saw in their final Preseason game this season. Bartel has also played with Sacramento in the United Football League.

Even with the signing of Bartel, I still assume that John Skelton will be the starter because there isn't really enough time for Bartel to learn the playbook and right now if Anderson isn't able to go Skelton is probably the best option right now. Scratch that, even if Anderson is healthy Skelton might be the best option right now.

So, discuss this move.

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Herman Johnson signed by Bears

Just heard that the Bears of signed big Herman to a two year contract the season just gets worse and worse I know the young kid was on our practice squad but there could have been a chance that he would have been a starter in the 2011/12 season if his weight issues were gone etc etc I know its a small story but anyways just more bad news this season oh well come on Skelton bring some joy back Go CARDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

by McKinnon on Dec 7, 2010 3:43 PM MST reply actions

I just saw that too.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 7, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions

more of the same

he was our BEST lineman in the pre-season, I taped games and he was outplaying Lutui, Bridges, all of them (and I mean he was playing his position better than anyone else wa playing theirs so spare me the …’ but a guard and y is tackle’ stuff)

I predict that within 2 years, he gets Pro-bowl talk… the guy was almost as fast as Hightower.. if you have any old tapes, watch just him … on 1 play he blocked 2 guys, one right, then one left then went 6 yard ahead and flattened an LB… in the same time it took the RB to go the 6 yards

but hey, he was 2 lbs over… so of course our genius talent evaluator supreme decided he was no good …

the worst position this team has is head coach (and I’m including all QBs in that evaluation)

by scsa69 on Dec 8, 2010 12:11 AM MST up reply actions

Darren Urban made a good point:

When Keith went on IR, Johnson was even signed off of the practice squad. Instead we signed a FA off the street.

We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!

"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen

by robloosli on Dec 8, 2010 7:12 AM MST up reply actions

let me guess, you think Whisenhunt didn't start this future pro bowler for personal reasons, just like you're buddy Leinart, right?

Quit it with your ridiculous bashing of Whisenhunt, you’ve been doing it on the AZcardinals forum ever since he demoted Leinart’s slow unproductive ass.

by CanadianCard on Dec 8, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions

Never want to see Max Hall in a Cardinal uniform again.

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Dec 7, 2010 3:53 PM MST reply actions 2 recs

I will make you look at it!

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 7, 2010 4:00 PM MST up reply actions

I like(d) Max Hall

I don’t know if it was the “it” factor, or his Obama ears, but I just liked him. Too bad he wasn’t able to make it work out after that memorable Saints game.

by Skii on Dec 7, 2010 5:39 PM MST up reply actions

+1

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 7, 2010 5:42 PM MST up reply actions

I agree on Herman Johnson

I thought he was in our future plans until they put him on P.S.

I think it would just be irresponsible to not take the chance to evaluate Skelton right now before going into the offseason. Why use that 1st pick on QB if we don’t need to? My fingers are crossed that DA slips into a coma! Start Skelton!!!

by emm7777 on Dec 7, 2010 4:43 PM MST reply actions

Anyone still want this guy?

I do….

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 7, 2010 5:12 PM MST reply actions

That would be great

But with his shiny new contract, probably not.

But, there’s a chance. With the Albert Hayneworth suspension, it seems like thing’s are falling apart up in D.C. Who knows…!

by Skii on Dec 7, 2010 5:40 PM MST up reply actions

Read the contract

Redskins have an opt out this year, no way are they going to pay him that cash – McNabb will be in Cardinal red next year, assuming there is a season.

by Drullin'OverDaCards on Dec 7, 2010 9:58 PM MST up reply actions

Man, I'm going to miss Big Herm

He’s going to be a beast now that he’s had his wake up call about his weight.

Next year was going to be his time. Dammit.

Section 103, Row 19

by CardsFan08 on Dec 7, 2010 5:28 PM MST reply actions

Richard Bartel, who cares.

Losing Herman is more significant.

by hadrarius on Dec 7, 2010 6:34 PM MST reply actions

I did not see this about munster!

Grrrr! What a shame I loved when we drafted him! Good for him though, hope Grimm taught him a thing or two so he can help poor Culter…

by Punisher3190 on Dec 7, 2010 8:30 PM MST via mobile reply actions

If Cutler wasn't so mobile

He would probably break David Carr’s record for most sacks in one yeah behind that line.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 7, 2010 9:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions

2 lousy pounds

Herman is FASTER than Cutler, hell, he’s faster than any RB CHI has

but man, that 2 lbs, if you are Ken Whisenhunt, you’d cut Joe Montana for a 2 pound infraction
Ken knows what’s important, and what talent really is … he always plays the players that give us the ‘best chance to win’, he’ll tell you, over and over and over

by scsa69 on Dec 8, 2010 12:15 AM MST up reply actions

Skelton gives us the best chance to win, I was excited about Johnson when he was drafted, but after 2 years, he obviously wasn’t in their plans. I disagree with the way Wiz baby’s young players. The NFL does not draft highschoolers like baseball does, their is no A AA AAA leagues in football. these guys are highly paid professionals they have to be able to come in and play. Experience comes on the field, not by watching other guys play. The average career in the NFL is what 5 or 6 years? Ok not everyone will be an instant starter, but protecting young players from the big bad NFL does not give them any opportunity to hone their skills. When Keith went down and Bridges got moved up, Johnson should have been brought up from the PS, now that the season is lost. He should have been able to get on the field some. I hope Skelton gets a chance to prove himself, and we draft some lineman who can protect him.

13- Warner, 23- Sandberg, 40- Tillman, 11- Walter

by TBru on Dec 7, 2010 8:49 PM MST reply actions

baby's them ?

he doesn’t baby them, he is simply incapable of recognizing talent, so he doesn’t play them (unless of course, they swagger correctly, or show high levels of ‘moxie’)

by scsa69 on Dec 8, 2010 12:17 AM MST up reply actions