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Joey Porter To The Arizona Cardinals?

On Tuesday, Miami Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter was a guest on a miami sports radio station and expressed his thoughts on his future with the Dolphins. He's ready to leave, and the Arizona Cardinals could be a possible landing spot.

Porter stated that the last ten games of the season for him were "miserable", and that he didn't think returning to the team next year was an option.

Porter was essentially benched week ten for a team violation, and his playing time was greatly diminished for the remainder of the year. Porter stated how he felt on the matter:

"I'll never let them take the fire out of me," Porter said. "But they did that." 

During the interview Porter also stated that he had interest in playing on the west coast, for a 3-4 defense, and for either the Chargers, 49ers, or Cardinals. Of those three teams, the Cardinals are the most in need of a linebacker with Bertrand Berry retiring less then two weeks ago, and the contract situations with Chike Okeafor and Karlos Dansby.

Here's what we know so far. Porter will be 33 in March and his best days are certainly behind him. That's not to say he doesn't have any gas left - he registered 9 sacks last year and 17.5 the year before. His current contract with the Dolphins has two years remaining worth $8 million, meaning the Dolphins would need to either trade or release him.

Since the Cardinals were one of the final eight teams of the playoffs, their limited to signing one unrestricted free agent to a $5 million per year deal, or several unrestricted free agents to $3.7 million per year deals. The likely scenario would be to sign Porter to a two year contract at the most, but within the restrictions stated above. What are your thoughts on the situation? Does Porter have enough gas left to shore up the Cardinals need at linebacker for the time being?

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I doubt

with as much contract uncertainty that we have right now (Dansby, Rolle) and what is pressing (Boldin, Dockett) it will be addressed any time soon, but to your point, yes, once everything else falls into place (one way or another) I think Porter could be a great addition. It’s no secret that we don’t get nearly enough QB pressure out of our OLB’s, and Porter would likely be productive while Brown and Davis continue to develop (might allow us to focus our efforts in other areas of the draft as well). His intensity alone would be worth having him on-board. We need a few more defenders who truly hate offensive units.

by Long Beach on Feb 2, 2010 9:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

hmmm he'd be a decent part of the equation

i greatly respect his pass rushing abilities but he’s on the downside of his career. still, i think he’d be good for at least 10 sacks. I wouldn’t give up more than a 4th round pick for him though. I believe that the cardinals coaches have to really think about the direction and style of defense they want. do they want to follow the steelers model? in my opinion, this defense really has potential but they have a couple of players that aren’t built for a true 3/4 defense{ dockett, and whether a. wilson is, can be debated}. dockett is a 4-3 defensive tackle and is too small to play noseguard and can’t play defensive end on 1st and 2nd down in a 3-4 defense, The good tackles in the nfl whip him on running plays. If the cardinals, choose to play a more attacking style defense featuring constant blitzes from the outside linebackers, the strong safety must have coverage skills and in my opinion wilson’s strength is playing near the line of scrimmage. either way i predict either 2 of either dockett, wilson, rolle and boldin won’t be back next season. i believe management will bring dansby back. i hope management has the foresight to understand with the impending rookie salary cap coming in the 12 draft class, the cardinals need to stock up on as many picks as possible for next years draft!

by lifelongcardfan on Feb 2, 2010 9:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

wilson will be back...

the head office just gave him a big contract, and hes aging so no trade value. but i am one of the few that r with you with the whole dockett situation, hes a pure 4 3 tackle, doesnt fit the defense. but is such a b

by Ogre7 on Feb 2, 2010 10:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

has anyone thought about changing Wilson to an OLB?

It may seem crazy but we all know he isnt great in coverage just average. however as a LB he would be a great cover LB great run stopper and great blitzer. That means Ware would slide in to start, is he ready for that? Or we would need to look for 2 safeties (FS & SS since Rolle is most likely gone).

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by sc464 on Feb 3, 2010 7:04 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i like that idea!

i never thought about that! he could be another raynoch, thompson, who i thought was a really good player.

by lifelongcardfan on Feb 3, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He was till he had neck problems.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why Wilson would be released

The Cardinals just extended him.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 7:14 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ooohh no i wouldn't just release him!

wilson is a pro bowl strong safety! i just think he is miscast in an attacking style 3-4 defense. i think the cards could easily trade him for a late first round pick. i bet the patriots would trade for him in a heartbeat! the same goes for dockett! the cards could get multiple picks for him too. by the way andrew, i really appreciate your contributions as well as the other guys who work on this site and their opinions.

by lifelongcardfan on Feb 3, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No problem man

Its good to know that the work pays off

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 3:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If his play quality doesn't decline right away, sure I'd be fine with him.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand band-wagoner fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Feb 2, 2010 10:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

haha that asking way too much

plus we wouldnt want Porters existing contract on our books

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by sc464 on Feb 3, 2010 7:01 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good trade idea

But I don’t see the Dolphins giving up that much. I hope so though.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 7:14 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Whisenhunt and Porter share the Steeler connection.

This leads me to believe there is a good chance of Porter wearing Cardinal red next season.

Miami needs a quality WR. Shopping Boldin to the AFC for Porter and Thigpen like Ogre7 suggests is a great scenario. At 33, Porter alone isn’t sufficient compensation for Boldin. Adding Thigpen resolves 2 issues in a single stroke. Leinart needs a quality backup. This trade would mean the Cards could draft a mid to late round QB to develop and let St Pierre go if they want to. QB situation handled (at least short term.)

Porter would supply veteran leadership to our young OLBs and fill the hole left by Berry. Whis places much emphasis on quality depth. The experience Porter brings to the position will help sustain the Cardinals command of the division in the short term while Brown, Davis and whomever is drafted this year continue to develop.

Since Porter was a Steeler during Whis’s tenure there, Whis will know what Porter brings to the table on and off the field, so no mystery coming in. Whis has already shown a propensity for pulling from steeler stock. If he thinks Porter is what the Cards need then he’ll go for him. Porter can’t be worse than McFadden. Plus if he is stating publicly an interest for playing for the Cardinals already, that sounds like a message meant for Whis’s ears to me.

by hadrarius on Feb 3, 2010 1:19 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

To an extent. He is aged and I am sure in the first half of the season we would get a quality OLB. But after that I see the same decline many aged veterans take in the second half of the season. What I do see though is starting Porter and than slowing working in Brown and Davis who, like DRC did at CB, will eventually take his place and allow Porter to be a situational player and reserve him for when he would be needed most, the 4th quarter and the post season.

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by Jessesb on Feb 3, 2010 3:00 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree with your assesment!

this would be the ideal situation for him as berry’s replacement.

by lifelongcardfan on Feb 3, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well actually we agree completely.

I really wouldn’t expect Porter to be a mainstay but rather to allow the Cardinals to work in Brown and Davis like you said, plus maybe a rookie. He may want to be an every down player but he’s going to have to face the fact that he is aging. Also the Cardinals like to rotate players to stay fresh through the entire game anyway.

by hadrarius on Feb 3, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Miami Herald claiming Antrel Rolle interested in playing in Miami.

I have to believe the Cardinals work out a long term deal with Rolle. If not, this may play into a trade with Porter. Sounds to me like Rolle is just working an angle for his new contract though.

by hadrarius on Feb 3, 2010 2:16 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea of trading Q for porter, thigpen, and a 2nd rounder.

Would make a lot of sense for us and is probably the best way to get porter

on another note, we can actually sign one player for a salary of at least $5 million, not up to $5 million. So we technically would have the
money to sign porter (if he’s released) or peppers. This is in addition to the salary of any UFAs leavingn us (basically just Dansby if he leaves)

by najmsh on Feb 3, 2010 5:07 AM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

why does everyone

keep saying whiz and porter.
 whiz is a OC.

Thats like saying oh, comparing Todd Haley and Adrian WIlson, i doubt the two worked together all that often, same for whiz n porter

by fansincejakenrob on Feb 3, 2010 10:04 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

True

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not suggesting they were lovers or anything.

Coaches maintain connections though and Whis would have an inside angle to know what Porter has to offer, both through what he saw personally while with the Steelers and through the contacts he has with those whom actually worked daily with Porter. If the guy is a headcase or something he’ll have a good idea. He brought in McFadden last year, which is a poor example considering how he played, but does suggest the plausibilty of going after Porter. Porter will be familiar with the type of defense the Cardinals want to run which will also be in his favor.

by hadrarius on Feb 3, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

True also

Whiz will be familiar with Porter to a certain extent.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 4:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

not high on my list but

if we got Porter it would be a positive. Personally, I don’t like his mouth, I think he is obnoxious, but his familiarity with Whiz and vice versa would make Porter instantly more valuable than other 33-yr old veterans.

Ogre7 nailed it. Boldin for Porter, Thigpen and a pick would be a great deal for the Cardinals, although I don’t see them getting two players and a #2, I think it would be two players and a later pick.

Glad to see so many others on board the Thig train! hahahaha.

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by Undrafteds on Feb 3, 2010 5:57 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a Porter fan either

And I seriously doubt we can get Porter, Thigpen AND a pick. Two of the three, max. Remember who is running Miami, it’s the big fish himself Parcells, not Jerry Jones…

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by Jessesb on Feb 3, 2010 8:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

u may be right Jessesb

that might be too steep

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by Undrafteds on Feb 3, 2010 1:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

interesting

there is upside, and I believe he’s a way better pass rusher than Dansby but not as good in coverage. I still think this is an upgrade if we lose Dansby. The best part of all of this is someone WANTING to come to AZ!

by Punisher3190 on Feb 3, 2010 9:22 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I was thinkin that the other day. We would’ve never heard this a few years ago.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I say bring the man in!!!

by sliceostew on Feb 3, 2010 12:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'll Pass

Given the FA restrictions and the fact the we were one of the final eight, I’d say no to signing him and no to trading Q for him and other picks. We can get better trade value and younger LBs elsewhere.

There are better, younger FA LBs available: Demeco Ryans (HOU), Elvis Dumerville (DEN), Aaron Kampman (GB) to name a few…

by WeDoThisTogether on Feb 3, 2010 3:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

If Dumerville was avail I'd say sign him immediately

But the Broncos would be foolish to let him walk.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 3:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't he Unrestricted?

I thought Dumerville was UFA? Maybe Arizona is attractive to him and I would offer him a contract immediately as well…you’d catch me in the stands next season wearing a Red/white Dumerville Jersey! haha

by SundayBlitz on Feb 3, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe so

I’d probably have to join you.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Feb 3, 2010 4:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

these guys could work!

I’d take ryans and elvis! these are difference makers. i also like kampman too but i’m leery about him. are there injury issues with him? productive guys like him, you just don’t let walk away like green bay apparently will.

by lifelongcardfan on Feb 3, 2010 5:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm on the fence..

I think there’s potential that Porter could bring some veteran leadership to the Cards defense and some major attitude. That would be a nice change since our defense doesn’t see nasty at all.

However, aren’t we just taking an already aging linebacker core and making it older? I don’t want to find a quick fix every year. Porter is well past his prime and I just don’t see adding his contract for someone who, as was posted earlier, is likely to go into decline midway through the season.

Via trade, I suppose it wouldn’t be bad to trade Boldin for Porter, Thig, and a pick. BUT, what if we can only get 2 of those 3? Which, I agree, would be more realistic. Is it worth trading Q for a low pick and Porter? It MIGHT be worth it for Porter and Thig…but I still don’t agree. You’re trading an impact, pro bowl level, game changing receiver for a veteran well past his prime that will likely be a situational player. The other thing you get for Q in that deal is going to be a backup quarterback or a low draft pick. If Leinart plays well, then Thigpen won’t even play. So what would we really be getting for Q?

Personally, I think we can do better than an aging vet on the decline and a backup qb for Q. But, we also need to get something for him…so that is why I’m on the fence..

by SundayBlitz on Feb 3, 2010 3:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Miami may just ditch Porter

thus making the trade talk moot and allowing the Cardinals to pick him up that way. Parcells will obviously try to get the most out of the guy while unloading him but you never know. The only thing that seems clear is that Miami wants rid of Porter and Porter has expressed interest in playing in Arizona. Miami is hurting for a guy like Boldin at WR too.

I don’t really think it’s the best deal we can get out of Boldin. I do think it’s a very good chance that Porter ends up in Arizona though, one way or another.

by hadrarius on Feb 3, 2010 4:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we'd give up a second for Boldin on top of those players, guys

Sure, we don’t want Porter any longer. We’re really only waiting until it’s official that it’s an uncapped season before we unload him (via FA or trade, unless the latter isn’t plausible). Now obviously, to this end, if it is uncapped, we would love to trade him. Get any sort of value for him. And a team like AZ (etc.) would probably rather trade for him than get into a bidding war.

Here’s where your trade scenario will fall short:

Even if we are able to trade Porter, Bill Parcells will not deal players AND such a high draft pick for a 30-year-old receiver. Trust me, I want Boldin almost more than any other potentially acquirable receiver, based mostly on how well he would fit our offense and the relatively low compensation required to get him (compared to Marshall, Jackson, etc.) However, with how poor Pat White performed as a QB this season and with the 50% true nugget we’ve uncovered about how even the big Tuna admits that was likely a squandered pick, Tyler Thigpen becomes our only capable backup. We have doubts that Chad Pennington returns amongst rumors that he’d like to, so Thigpen becomes far too valuable.

I guess it’s realistic to say that we would be willing to give Thigpen up, if it means we get additional value out of Porter (akin to NBA trades that give up expiring contracts as an added incentive to take on the baggage that is another player, whether because they’re paid too much or because the team does not want him any longer). However, having said that, it’s just unrealistic to say Boldin is worth those two players AND a second round pick.

Now, I do recall a report saying that somebody offered a player and a second round pick for Boldin last off-season, and obviously, the Bidwells declined. I think it only makes sense to assume that they would say yes to that trade now, and having assumed that, it’s also safe to say they’d take slightly less.

Of course if we were to offer that package, I’m sure your FO would say yes; I just do not think it’s reasonable to say we’d ever do so.

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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 7, 2010 11:46 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Dolphin fan here...

You guys can have him. He has a few years left in him, but he’s the cockiest man i’ve ever seen.

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by Kdog92 on Feb 3, 2010 7:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

All I want for Q is draft picks.

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by hevchv on Feb 3, 2010 7:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

next year

Important year for the Cards in 2010- can’t afford to drop from the top now.
Smart moves are needed. Dansby’s not worth it he’s in decline. Need young fast linebackers who will come on in 2nd half thinking of Davis and Brown. Porter can fit in as a veteran presence. Dummervil would be perfect
 Agree, Adrian Wilson is only good at the line of scrim but they made the SB last year so his signing was worth it but he’s overrated.
Boldin is gone but he’s been hurt and won’t bring back more than a 5.

by GABORRE10 on Feb 3, 2010 9:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

If you want Porter

Trade us Antrel Rolle and we’ll call it a day.

Maybe we’ll throw in a mid-round pick if the Bidwells feel they have any sort of leverage. I think we all know they don’t want to “pay thyat maan hees mahney” (Rounders, anybody?), and I’d be shocked if he isn’t cut or traded as a result.

Maximize your returns and just deal him straight to us. He does want to return home, anyway.

Hell, maybe we’ll even give you Gibril Wilson. God knows we don’t want either player anymore. Well, at least I don’t.

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