Evaluating Matt Leinart's Expectations For 2010
As I sit here thinking about the Arizona Cardinals and what to discuss, it became evident to me that in the midst of Kurt Warner's retirement and the Super Bowl, we haven't discussed the future of Matt Leinart. So here's what we know so far:
- He was drafted out of the first round in 2006(10th pick overall), and was the heir to take over as the "quarterback of the future".
- That year, he took over for Kurt Warner following Warner's horrid 1-4 start, and had a marginally successful rookie season(4-7 record)
- In 2007, Leinart split duties with Warner through the first five games of the season before suffering a broken collarbone against the Rams.
- Since the injury, Leinart has appeared in just twelve games, seeing minimal playing time.
More thoughts on his career after the jump...
Leinart started the majority of his career his rookie season, completing a unimpressive 56.8% of his passes, but also throwing for nearly 2,600 yards and 11 touchdowns. The psyche of a 24-year quarterback can be fragile, and when he was shuffled in and out of the line-up in 2007 in place of Warner, we can assume that his confidence was bruised.Through the course of Matt Leinart's career, we've seen the rise and fall of a promising rookie, but does the burden all rest on his shoulders? After all, he was competing against a 37-year old gunslinger that will more-then-likely become enshrined in the Cardinals Ring of Honor and the NFL Hall of Fame one day.
While under the tutelage of Warner, Leinart had a chance to learn from one of the NFL's greatest quarterbacks of all time. Warner posted a 28-24 record while Leinart was on the bench, averaging 64.9% of his passes, 244 yards a game, and 22 touchdowns a season. Leinart's seen it all. He's surveyed the field for four seasons, witnessed five playoff games, and has been a part of the Super Bowl. He has the experience - now he needs to put the necessary tools in place.
Leinart will get that opportunity, inheriting a Cardinals' offense filled with toys that any other quarterback would jump at the chance to have. Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin are both pro bowlers, Steve Breaston could start for 20 other teams, Early Doucet has potential through the roof, Beanie Wells and Tim Hightower are both under 22-years of age, and the offensive line is the best it's been in years. Matt Leinart is joining elite company, and now he needs to play to his potential.
During week 10 of the regular season against the St. Louis Rams, Kurt Warner went down after a blow to the head caused concussion-like symptoms. Matt Leinart was thrown into the line up in the second half and the offense went limp. Ken Whisenhunt admittedly went conservative with the play calling, taking the fall for often criticised young quarterback. During the following week, there was speculation that Kurt Warner would start on the road against the Tennessee Titans. Warner and Leinart split reps with the first-team offense leading up to the game, and on gameday, Leinart was ruled the starter.
With Matt in the line up, the offense was noticeably more aggressive, and his throws were more on target then the week before. The Titans were one of the hottest teams in the league at that point in the year, and starting his only game of the season on the road was no easy request. In the end, the Cardinals lost, but Leinart gave the team every opportunity to win the game. Against the Rams and Titans, he completed 69.5% of his passes and didn't commit a turnover, giving myself and other Cardinal fans hope for next season.
So now I ask - what should we expect from Matt Leinart in 2010? He'll surely get the majority of the practice time with the first team offense - which one can assume will help. 2010 is his year to prove what he's made of. The Arizona Cardinals are Matt Leinart's team for the taking.
What are your expectations for Matt Leinart next season? If he tanks, do the Cardinals stand a chance in the division race? Will the offense become more run-based?
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My Expectations
My expectations, while not lofty, still providea basic starting point for how I feel about Leinart. So, here we go:
1) I expect a minimum of 9 wins next season – Considering the tools we have in place on offense and defense, and barring any drastic injuries to star players, I feel that even a middle-tier quarterback should be able to put up 9 wins (especially in the NFC West).
2) I expect more touchdowns than turnovers – I do NOT want to see Leinart with stats that say things like “15 touchdowns and 24 interceptions.” To me, that is unsuccessful. I expect him to have a positive TD:Int ratio.
3) I expect efficient time management – he’s had several years to learn from Warner which should have provided him with some clock management skills. I expect him to put those on display.
4) I expect a CONFIDENT leader – Like it or not, he’s going to have to become the offesnive leader. He’s going to touch the ball on every play, and the team needs to have faith in him. For that to happen, he needs to be decisive and not shaky in the pocket. He needs to run onto the feel knowing he’s going to lead the team to a score. By being a leader, he can earn the fan’s trust as well as the trust of his team.
5) I expect him to study – this is an important one for me. I don’t expect Matt to be perfect, but I expect him to be diligent. He’s surrounded in this lague by arguably some of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. Most of them have one thing in common (other than winning) and that is the time they spend off the field studying their opponents. We all know how difficult it is to confuse guys like Warner, Manning, Favre and Brees. It’s because they put in the time. Leinart has had time to see how much work Kurt Warner put forth just to make sure he knew what to expect out of a defense on Sunday. I expect Matt Leinart to do the same. I don’t expect him to be perfect, but I expect him to be prepared.
While I know not all of these are quantifiable expectations ( I can’t exactly monitor Matt’s study time and preparation), I believe it will be evident on the field. If he isn’t prepared for a defense, we’ll see his inability to make a quick decision and we’ll see the Leinart in the pocket who looks scared and shaky. If he DOES do these things, I expect we’ll probably BEAT my first expectation and hit double digit wins again. Especially since I expect the Cardinals are going to shore up the defense.
All good points
Only thing I could add is that he beats Seattle, 2×. And if he really wants to make me happy, one of those games is a career game. Beating his former coach AND the Seahens? Oh that would be priceless.
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by Jesse Reynolds on Feb 9, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
I'll take beating the 49ers x2
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Maybe he can get over 400 yards and 4 TDs against his old Coach
That would be fun to watch.
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I think we'll see something similar to Aaron Rodgers.
Put up good numbers but ultimately fall short in the wins column.
My expectations are not as high as yours. Sure I do expect the more touchdowns than interceptions, the growing into a leadership role, and the studying to become better. The one thing I do not expect is a “minimum of 9 wins”. I expect us to have 7 or more wins but Leinart already has enough pressure on his shoulders, with the team being a Super Bowl contender and replacing a future Hall of Fame quarterback., he really doesn’t need the added pressure of “you must win this much or your a bust”.
I guess the jist of what I am trying to say is, I expect him to do about what Aaron Rodgers did in his first full season as a starter.
I don't think so
The Packers were unsuccessful that year as a whole, not just from Rodgers. I’m expecting a 10 win season should Leinart at least manage the games well.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Exactly
I mean, personally, I feel that we should be able to beat both St. Louis and Seattle twice each. That’s 4 wins. I think we should beat the Niners at least once, hopefully twice. So that is 5-6 wins. So, all I’m really asking for is 3-4 non-divisional wins. That’s not even 50%. I figure that’s an acceptable goal. If we beat that goal, we should find ourselves back in the playoffs again and hopefully division champs again.
Forgot about who we have to play next season.
Looking at who we have to play, I think it’s not out of the question to expect 9 wins. Outside of the Rams and Seattle, we get Tampa and Oakland at home (should be wins). We also get Kansas City, which even though Haley is there it should be a win.
9 should be doable.
you might get the niners once….but definitely not twice. At least I hope not
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by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 9:00 AM MST up reply actions
Seems like we never split.
The past several years each team has taken it’s turn at sweeping the other. I think that trend continues this next season.
Ya you’re right. We split with you guys a couple of seasons ago didn’t we? I do remember the year the Niners had only 2 wins, they both came against the cardinals…sorry, lol. However that was the year that gave us alex smith, so I guess you guys got the last laugh in the end…this season is up in the air, I believe. Division is up for grabs, and I think we’ll most likely split this seasons series
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by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 AM MST up reply actions
Your superbowl run was a good kick in the crotch as well, however I was rooting heavily for the cardinals. I did not want the Steelers winning more superbowls than the Niners, but in the end, you guys kinda screwed us there too. I suppose that can ease a super bowl loss a scosh.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 9:18 AM MST up reply actions
I looked at the last 6 years and in those 6 years we never split. We have however, split those 12 games 6-6.
Wow it’s been that long huh? I wonder if we continue our trend of playing each other the first game of the season next year. I guess we can pretty much see how each of our seasons are going to go after that first week then if we do.
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by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
scratch that....
even if we beat you, there’s a good chance we still won’t be able to beat anybody else in the NFL, especially through the bulk of the season, as has been the Niner specialty the last 7 yrs or so.
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by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
I don't know...
barring any major roster changes or massive injuries to the Niners, I actually think they are going to be a pretty tough opponent next season. Not only for the Cardinals, but for most teams. Also, consider the fact that they play the same teams we play…and our schedule has several pretty weak opponents (or they leak weak right now)….I’m predicting the Cards and Niners going to be going head to head for the division next season.
by SundayBlitz on Feb 10, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
I will take one down season
If Leinart turns into the next Aaron Rodgers. Who knows we have one bad season we draft early next year and pick up the next Ray lewis or a bad ass DE and are team is set for the long haul.
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by McCards010 on Feb 9, 2010 1:56 PM MST reply actions
My Expectations
I was planning on writing a fanpost about this very topic so I’ll lay out my thoughts in here. To simply things I won’t try to lay out an expected win totals or individual stats but instead focus on an overall quality of play. The more I look back on Matty’s first season and early in his second season and try to project that into 2010, I get the feeling that we should look to Eli Manning’s production as a model for how to handle/expect from Leinart.
I think Eli and Matty are both fairly similar players in that neither of them have really big arms or really do any one thing amazingly well but overall can do a little bit of everything. Eli has the advantage of a much better running game and at times over his tenure has had a much better defense but Matty will have weapons that are far superior to anything Eli has ever had. All that being said, if you look at Eli’s career he posts productive numbers but certainly nothing that’s going to wow anyone. If Matty can match Eli’s average season (around 60% completion percentage and in the 6.5 to 6.9 yards per attempt range), I think we’ll be just fine. The touchdowns will vary depending on how much we’re getting from the running game but the big stat that Matty will have to control is interceptions. If you look at Eli’s career, the Giants seem to live and die with how many picks he ends up throwing.
I think Leinart will be capable of getting hot at times (ala Eli in the playoffs two years ago) but I could also see him really struggling at times (ala Eli in that very same season when he threw 20 picks). Overall though I think Matty has all of the tools to become a very successful NFL QB and he’s capable of taking this team to third 3rd consecutive playoff appearance.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
My predictions
At least 8 wins
3400 yards, 22 Touchdowns, 12 Picks, 63% completion rate. Maybe a couple of Touchdown runs like he had back in 2006.
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I expect
-A winning season, we have too much explosiveness to be sub par.
-Positive TDtoINT ratio as prev said.
Thats all i expect out of the offense considerin our personel.
However defense personnel is up in the air right now, to call the season.
I personally think that NUMBER7 is going to go insane, absolutely insane next season. He’s gonna look the guy that went to 2 National Championships.
I’m thinking 30td, 12pics.
+3800 yards.
ITs all there for that to happen.
by fansincejakenrob on Feb 9, 2010 2:58 PM MST reply actions
If you're right I'll second that
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Heck
I’ll get the first round for our superbowl party…
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by Jesse Reynolds on Feb 9, 2010 4:46 PM MST up reply actions
If you're right...
I’m jumping off a cliff
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by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 9:04 AM MST up reply actions
It's ok...
A stat line like that and you guys are garaunteed the division, maybe another superbowl run. And in the process most likely another non-winning season for the Niners. And if I don’t see a winning record and a playoff birth this year, I’m jumping off The Atlantis parking garage in downtown Reno.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
I'll pour out some of my drink for you then
if I hear a news headline about a jumper there after next season…
LOL thanks man
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by Brave Neander on Feb 10, 2010 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
Success
I think his success will depend on a bunch of different factors. The run game will be a major factor because I think we will start to see a different offense because the offense we have been running was in place because of Warner so the amount of run to pass plays will change and how many times we go to 4 and 5 wide receiver sets will change. The offense line will be an interesting thing to see how the protection is and who is starting. I think Levi could have a better season because he is more of a run blocking tackle and that could help him. Our defense will be a big question next season because I don’t think we will win as many shoot outs, so are defense will have to step up and play more consistent. We also have to look at how much change could happen on the team with the amount of turnover that can happen. I think he will post good numbers with a nice TD to INT ratio if the ground game is strong and he doesn’t have to win every game by out throwing the other QB.
I agree
We are going to have to get away from trying to win shootout games. Leinart is not going to be the deep threat passer and he’s geared more towards methodically moving the ball 5-10 yard passes than 50 yard bombs. This is another reason I think our defense is the most important off season key.
However, I don’t think we will know our receiver sets until a decision is made about Boldin. If Boldin comes back, then I disagree with you and I think we’ll see plenty of 4 receiver sets incorporating Fitz, Boldin, Breaston, and Doucet. I think that is definitely to our benefit. If Boldin is traded, then I agree and I think we’ll move more towards 2 and 3 receiver sets with multiple RB’s to protect Leinart and incorparte more draw plays and RB screens/dump downs.
I don't think Leinart will have to do too much,
Beanie and Timmy will carry the load for him. Though, he is decent with the play action, so I expect Fitz to have fun too.
A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.
Love everyones optimism
but I see leinart really struggling the first six games and maybe pulling it somewhat together the last ten games. The Cardinals are going to use pretty basic and predictable game plans til he gains some game skills. Hate to say it but he’s gonna put some of the receivers on IR while he’s on the learning curve. And heaven forbid if Wells was to get hurt next year
What everyone is missing here is...
My expectations are to not turn the ball over! Be as accurate as possible get the ball in the hands of ALL of our play makers. Two things you will see this season that will surprise you! Defense will be seriously upgraded Pittsburg style smash mouth quick and youthful so no more 90 yard drives to lose games. Secondly Leinhart just has to lead, manage the clock, and get Larry and Beanie the ball. I think a we go undefeated in our division, we have an awesome schedule with only a handful of “tough” games…Leinarts confidence could really be built up this year to launch his career.
Here is what I'm hoping
My expectations unfortunately hinge on a couple of uncertainties.
1. The old man has given control of the team to his son and his son spend the money necessary to upgrade this team. A lot of the newer fans here must understand that we were in this same situation in the mid 70’s when all the front office had to do was fix the defense and the team was going to have a nice 4-6 year run.
2.Upgrade the offensive line. If this team is going to somewhat feature Beanie Wells and give him 300 carries, then 3 members of the line must be replaced. Sendlein, Wells, and Gandy, can’t consistently knock people of the ball and are more suited for a zone blocking scheme. If anyone has studied this team, particularly the blocking up front, you’d see that the only consistent rushing yardage was behind Deuce and Levi. I envision a line with the likes of Keith at LT, Johnson, at LG whoever at C,Deuce at RG and Levi at RT. Now a power, run blocking line like this will be able slug it out with any defensive front in the league and will be able to knock open holes on either side of the ball and even up the middle! Leinart would be a high percentage passer with this line also because teams will be bracing for the run and play action will be there all game long! Under these circumstances, I expect Leinart to throw for 3600 yards 24 td’s with maybe 10-12 interceptions, Wells will be a 1300 yard back, both Fitzgerald and Boldin will catch around 80 balls but more importantly this team will be a very good ball control offense
This is of course wishful thinking but if you think about this, who would this team remind you of? That’s correct! the Pittsburgh Steelers and I really believe that whiz would go for this.
I honestly would rather not have Beanie going over 300 carries.
Usually when a back carries the ball over 350 times they get worn out and their production declines in the next season.
I’d like to see Beanie and Timmy getting at least 200/225 carries.
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I can see Leinart having an ok year. Something like 3000 yards, 15-20 TDs and 10-15 Ints. I think the offense is going to be heavily reliant upon the running game of Beanie and Timmy. If the defense can improve I still see the Cards winning 10 games and the division for the 3rd straight year.
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wow!
so it seems that guys here think that all thats needed is a left tackle and things are fine? I find this so stunning. please understand that the dynamics of this offense has changed now that warner is gone, you won’t be seeing 300 plus passing yards every game.wells will be the featured back and will get 300 carries barring an injury. Did it not bother anyone other than i that when teams turned up the heat on the front line the cardinals couldn’t really block them? or that this team can’t consistently run the ball up the middle or to the left side?
Why is that? am i missing something here? do you guys honestly think that wells can be a workhorse type of back with defenses knowing that its leinart back there instead of warner? If you are going to run the ball more, you need linemen that can run block! the cardinals only have two! duece and levi.
by lifelongcardfan on Feb 10, 2010 4:11 PM MST reply actions
Wow really?
Leinart isn’t JaMarcus Russel. I think the offense will take a dip but not as dramatically as you say.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Agreed
Especially with the quality of receivers and our coaching. I agree that we need some improvement in run blocking, but can you really deny that it has improved over the previous few seasons? If it continues to improve we should be decent at the run next season and teams that stack up completely against the run will pay for it by leaving our receivers open. You make Leinart sound completely incompetet at throwing the ball, in which case, I think you are mistaken. He’s not Warner, true. But, Warner isn’t the only quarterback to ever have success passing the ball.
I apologize!!
damned! after reading my post I came across like a total arrogant ass and guys please accept my sincere apology for those i offended! It’s just that I’m a serious cardinals fan and not to brag but i feel i have a trained eye for both, the d-line and the offensive line. guys please trust me when I say this though, opposing defensive lines are literally licking their chops when they play the cards because they know the opportunity will be there to make plays with the lack of talent up front the cards have.
right or wrong everyone is entitled to their opinion here! once again I opologize for offending anyone GO CARDS!!!
by lifelongcardfan on Feb 10, 2010 4:42 PM MST reply actions
It wasn't
that arrogant. I agree that Duece and Levi are our best run blockers, which is probably why it is rumored that Herman and Brandon Keith are potential starters next season. If that works out, the planned conversion to a more balanced attack could be smoother than it may appear right now. I do look for us to pick-up a TE in the draft who can add something significant to the run game and short passing game.
I may be overly optimistic about this, but with QB coach Chris Miller on board, and with Leinart going into camp knowing he’s #1 and getting all the first-team snaps, I think he’ll be better than most are expecting him to be.
by Long Beach on Feb 10, 2010 5:30 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No worries
Everyone can voice their opinion. But that doesn’t mean we can’t have any friendly debate..
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Warner was a road warrior this year.
I just don’t see matty doing that. With Warner it was still only a 10 win team. With a middle of the road QB this is an 8-8 team +/- one win. I don’t see a top 10 running game suddenly materializing either. I think the run game is improving and will do so, but I don’t see our run game in the top half of the league next year. So if our run game is around 20th and our pass game drops to about 16th, we are an 8-8 team unless the D really steps up. I hope I’m wrong and who knows after trades and the draft. GO CARDS!
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM MST reply actions
Much more to consider...
The schedule next year has us playing against some, currently, weaker opponents. Also, I would consider the Cards being a top 10 running team as “suddenly materializing.” We’ve consistently improved our running game over the previous few years. Where we ended 2009 was much further ahead in the running game than where we started in 2009. If we take into account the gained experience, off season training of our running backs and lineman, as well as a better understanding of the NFL by Beanie, Hightower, and the lineman and I’d say it was something that has been materializing over several seasons.
On top of that, I think we are all attributing the defensive potential this team has. The only major cog the defensive will probably be losing in the off season is Dansby. However, we have Davis and Brown stepping in to play as well and we may get some solid defensive players via a Boldin trade. With a decent draft, the Cardinals could strengthen their defense to where we don’t need as much offense next year to pull out victories.
Regardless, I think you need to look at the team as something being built up and that we have a lot of young guys with potential. We are all looking at it as though they are going to hopefully meet or exceed expectations next year. We are also looking at the veterans that had good season as being capable of doing so again. Combine the potential and I think we have a 9-10 win team.
The schedule seems pretty easy to me.
Hopefully Davis’ defense does better next season.
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I can't stand band-wagoner fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
The defense also has big Issues!
The teams secondary was repeatedly exposed by good quarterbacks and the nickle and dime packagers were among the worst in the NFL! The whole left side of the secondary played terrible last year. McFadden was a complete joke as a corner and proved that he can’t play man to man defense and Wilson, as good as he is can’t cover anyone either!
The notion that good coaching and an off season of training will benefit these guys is easily debatable and really only applies to athletes with elite ability. How many off seasons have Wells, Sendlein, and Gandy have had? Good coaching only get you so far! Just because you’re a hard worker doesn’t mean you’re a good player! so many people fall into that trap.
by lifelongcardfan on Feb 11, 2010 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
I agree somewhat!
In my opinion Wells is a 1300-1500 yard back if given the opportunity.But there are variables that have to be considered. Is leinart progressing as a playoff caliber quarterback, Is Boldin back? Did the front office improve the O-line? all the things work hand in hand when determining whether or not Wells becomes the good back we all envision. When and If leinart proves that it isn’t wise to blitz him, and he shows he can complete passes all over the field, defenses will have to repsect that. If Boldin comes back with both he and
by lifelongcardfan on Feb 11, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
computer glitched!!
Anyhow, if Boldin comes back, with Fitz on the other side their presence alone helps and they have to be accounted for. then of course the O-line, and I’ve already discussed that enough. I find it fascinating that people think this is a good line with only an improvement at tackle!
by lifelongcardfan on Feb 11, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions
This early any prediction is a guess at best, but
Cardinals were 28th in rushing yards per game in 2009 and 19th in yards per carry. In 2008 Cards were 32nd in rushing yards per game and 31st in yards per carry. The running game is improving. However, you are grossly undervaluing the loss of Warner, who carried the offense in 2008 and through most of the wins in 2009. I don’t see how you can say the 2010 team will be as good as last year at this time. After trades and the draft, maybe it can be discussed, but as of right now, no KW is at least 2 more losses.
I also think looking at the schedule is difficult this early. Look at the ’09 Giants or ’09 Tennessee for the first half of the year. Or for that matter look at last year’s schedule, we got to play Detroit, Chicago, and Jacksonville as three of our road games. How did we lose to SF twice last year, lose to Carolina at home, spank Minnesota and beat the Giants in NY? The fact is the Cards are better than they were a few years ago, but still inconsistent even with Warner. Without Warner, the Cards most likely become even more inconsistent. Matt may be an NFL QB and he may not, but right now I have no idea where he is. What I know is the most important player on our team retired.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Feb 11, 2010 2:14 PM MST reply actions
My point has been vindicated!!!!
Anyone happen to catch NFL LIVE on ESPN? Tim Sando basically reiterated everything that I’ve been trying to explain to everyone. This offensive line sucks with the exception of levi and deuce.
Now to leinart. first of all it has been wrongfully perceived that i think he’s a subpar quarterback. and I need to correct that perception because as of now i think he’s an average quarterback with potential. Just ask yourself one thing and maybe some will get my point. Will he be capable of making the same reads on blitzes that warner did? Is he the same threat if you blitz him and fail to succeed on the blitz? the obvious answer to those are both absolutely not! That’s why this line must be rebuilt. to actually give him a chance to succeed! if all remains the same on offense with leinart at the helm, this is a 6-8 win team at best because the line as it is, will fail this team because of the lack of talent on it!
by lifelongcardfan on Feb 11, 2010 3:30 PM MST reply actions
lol
Well, if Tim Sando says it then it must be so.
Since I respect your opinion more than his, I get what you’re saying and it could be a serious concern. On the other hand, every offensive line prefers to run block over pass block. Without Warner we’ll be doing a lot more of the former, and Leinart, in theory, won’t have to do all the things in the passing game that Warner did.
So, if big Herman and Brandon Keith can successfully step in and start we look like a pretty good running team, at least on paper. I don’t see too many gameplans this year where we throw 70% of the time by design.
You're correct!
Man, i’m so glad you’re getting what i’m saying here! True, it’s easier to run block but it changes the way defenses play you when they know you can out slug them in the trenches! It was mentioned that if the cardinals bring in 3 new starters it will mess up things. If this was a trapping and pulling type of offense line that may be true but in today’s game, You line up in front of your guy and you drive him off the ball. You kick his ass! The cardinals only have levi and deuce who can do this.
That’s why there will be at least 2 new starters on the line! Hopefully the Sendlein experiment has ended!
by lifelongcardfan on Feb 11, 2010 4:22 PM MST up reply actions
+1
If we’re going to more of a run-oriented offense, it will be the same type of transition as we’re making to the 3-4 on “D.” As you noted, we’ll need to add more road graders to the OL. But, if we manage to keep Boldin it will be very hard to put 8 men in the box with him and Fitzgerald still in-tact.
I think it’s going to be as active an off-season as we’ve seen in awhile.
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