After Earning Big Paydays, Who Makes The Pro Bowl First?
by Andrew602 on Mar 12, 2010 1:38 PM MST
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When the free agency signing period began last Friday, March 5th, the Arizona Cardinals immediately found themselves in deep water. Starting defenders Karlos Dansby and Antrel Rolle, bolted to different teams to become the highest paid players at their positions.
Since then, we've had time to mull over the losses and discuss the impact it will have on the Cardinals, and also whether or not the Dolphins and Giants gave up too much for the former redbirds.
I'm curious as to what everyone thinks will come of them. Rolle was made the highest paid safety in NFL history - higher then Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, and even our very own Adrian Wilson. Karlos Dansby was made the highest paid linebacker in the league, ahead of Patrick Willis, Ray Lewis, and 2008's Defensive Player of the Year, James Harrison.
Meanwhile, most of us sat back and realized - after the initial shock of course - that the Cardinals may have received the better end of the stick. Neither one of these players had ever made a pro bowl(the exception being Antrel Rolle, who was named an alternate last year after Darren Sharper dropped out), and neither were ever in the talk of "best at their positions". Yet somehow, someway, they were paid like it.
As I get closer to my point, let me also explain that both players signed in much larger markets then Arizona - New York and Miami. Should Dansby and Rolle play to their newly signed contracts, which one stands the best chance at earning a pro bowl appearance next season?
Karlos Dansby will be entering his 8th season and will be planted in the middle of the 'Phins defense. Dansby has always been known as a play-making linebacker, especially when he averaged 5 sacks and 2 interceptions through the first six seasons of his career. He's been playing for a new contract the last two seasons and one would have to assume that his big payday and the new logo on the side of his helmet will motivate him to get back to his old ways.
After giving the Cardinals an opportunity to match any offers, free safety Antrel Rolle decided to turn his abilities over to the New York Giants. Rolle is only 27-years old and has gradually increased his production for the last two seasons he's been at safety. He's known for plays after the ball is in his hands and a defensive touchdown could surely win him over in New York.
Do you believe either of these former Cardinals will live up to their new contracts? Now that they're in new markets, which former Cardinal do you believe will make the pro bowl first and which will have the more successful season?
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I'd give Rolle the edge at making the pro-bowl.
He can make the flashy plays that will make him stand out. He’s in the same division as the Eagles – big passing team, The ‘skins – may have rookie QB, and the Cowboys. All of these are also major market teams. He could still develop into a big time FS and has the stage to be recognized for it. He’s also been to the game which I think gives him more edge over Dansby.
All that said Rolle is also the bigger chance at being a bust considering the money. Danby may not put up flashy numbers but will remain a solid player and a leader.
For his sake
I hope it’s Dansby, otherwise he’ll have a recurring nightmare that starring Bill Parcells.
Neither....
If I’m understanding you correctly. You’re stating “next season” right? I don’t see either one of them making it into the pro-bowl. I loved both of them when they were wearing red and still (somewhat) respect them. But I highly doubt that just because of a market switch or getting the highest paid contract for their position in the league or inflating their egos that they’re somehow and someway going to be better players than what they were with the Cardinals.
I do however in the next couple years after they’re egos are put in check, see Rolle to be the first pro-bowl bound ex-cardinal.
Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
Yeah that's what I asked.
So you don’t think Miami and New York are bigger markets then Arizona as far as NFL fans?
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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No...
I totally agree with you about NY and Miami being bigger markets. No doubt there. I just don’t understand how either one moving to a larger market would give them any better of a chance of making it into the pro-bowl or make them any better of players.
Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
I don't think it will make them better but..
Bigger market = more pro bowl votes.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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yeah
i think they’ll both crash and burn next season as well.
and by crash and burn, i mean, mediocre, at best.
neither of them have ever shown on a consistent basis, that they are that guy in th NFL, thats is the best at their position.
by fansincejakenrob on Mar 12, 2010 3:23 PM MST up reply actions
Ray Lewis, James Harrison, Jerrod Meyo. My vote goes to the nonLB.
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by hevchv on Mar 12, 2010 3:04 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Good point
Stiffer competition for Dansby. But can Rolle start over Ed Reed?
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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lol no.
I wish they had put a neither option.
A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.
NFC v AFC
They aren’t competing for the same spot.
Crud
How did I miss that. it’s been a long day at work.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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If Rhodes goes in over Rolle
that would be funny.
Since the question is "former Cardinal"
The correct answer is Boldin.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Mar 12, 2010 3:16 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, where is the Boldin option?
"What I've achieved now is something that I always figured I would as a kid. I've had that type of determination since I was a youngster playing around the playgrounds, getting dirty after school." - Amare Stoudemire
Well
We can be pretty sure that Boldin will make it for sure, especially in a Ravens Uni. Plus I wanted to keep it to the two big free agent departures.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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The list of players that they're paid more than
.. is hilarious. Talk about a slap to the face of those guys.
Definately Boldin will be there, the man is just to awesome
Would be kind of amusing if Rolle and Dansby went the route of the other big name guy that left last year, um what was his name, oh yea Antonio Smith. Anybody ever hear his name any more?
by Dem_Cardz on Mar 12, 2010 6:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Lets put it this way...
Although Rolle and Dansby were overpaid by their new teams, what does it say about the State of the Cardinals when two key cogs in the Cardinals game plan become the highest paid at their positions with other teams?
I think it says that the Cardinals tradition of being a thin, weak franchise are officially over.
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by Undrafteds on Mar 12, 2010 6:59 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
totally agree
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Hey can someone please provide me with a BPA list for the mock over at MTD?? the rep DaCard has not been around so idk if he is participating.
Co-Leader of yearly 7 round live mock draft at MtD
Ok
I think its general consensus
ILB, OLB, NT, CB, OL (basically just an OT), late round QB, and than BPA. Pretty deep in WR, have four TE’s, safety spot is deep, I think we need some more depth in the secondary considering how McMuffin played, our RB situation is really good, and special teams in also in good shape.
We have been looking to add some depth through our recent FA signings, so outside the first three needs I think the FO will go with whatever the BPA is.
They are who we thought they were!
Neither next year.
But I’m going with Rolle to make it first. I think that Dansby is going to get a few new “injuries” now that he got his money.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
rolle going to the giants, to me, it's almost a certainty he'd be in before dansby in 2010.
i’m not so sure either will make it though this year.
I went with Dansby
having a slight edge of Rolle. The fact is, Rolle is going to be playing against tougher competition. He isn’t in the NFC West anymore. He no longer gets to play against the Rams twice, Seahawks twice, and 49ers twice. When you play against teams that do nothing but turn the ball over, it is going to inflate your stats. We all know how big the rivalries are existing between the Giants, Eagles, Cowgirls, and Skins. Those are always tough-fought, close games. I see Rolle getting exposed now that he’s going to be playng in games requiring nasty attitude.
The ‘Phins had a decent defense last year and I see Dansby adding to that. While I don’t know that he’ll make a Pro Bowl impression, I think he’ll put up some highlights and have a decent season.
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