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Cardinals Trade Boldin To Ravens; Dansby Signs With Dolphins And Rolle Joins Giants

Anquan Boldin(81) and Karlos Dansby(58) were signed to different teams when the dust settled on the first day of free agency on Friday, March 5th 2010.

Anquan Boldin(81) and Karlos Dansby(58) were signed to different teams when the dust settled on the first day of free agency on Friday, March 5th 2010.

It was one of the most event-filled first days of free agency in recent Cardinals history but that's not to say it went well for Arizona. The Cardinals were anticipated to lose several big-name players on Friday and they didn't fall short of those expectations when rumors swirled around Cardinal-town all day. In the end, two big names were wearing different jerseys while another was inking a deal in a different city.

The first piece of action broke late Friday afternoon when the Cardinals announced they had traded disgruntled wide receiver Anquan Boldin and a 5th-round draft pick to the Baltimore Ravens for 3rd and 4th-round draft picks. The move is a tough blow to the Cardinals offense as they lose one of the currently longest tenured Cardinals and fan favorites in Boldin. It's not a surprise however - Boldin has been demanding a trade for the last three seasons and his request was granted early during the 2010 offseason. The 29-year old pro bowl wide receiver will be featured as the number one wide out on the depth chart and will join newly signed receiver Donte Stallworth.

The Cardinals will be gaining two greatly appreciated draft picks to fill needs on defense that were a high priority even before the trade ever took place. With them, they'll likely add depth at linebacker and defensive back.

Star-divide

Not long after Boldin was sent packing, linebacker Karlos Dansby was in Miami meeting with the Dolphins. Dansby has expressed his excitement for an uncapped year and was given the chance to test the open market after being given the franchise tag the previous two seasons. Dansby advised that he'd give the Cardinals a chance to match any offer but it was obvious Miami was in no interest of making a bidding war out of it. Miami awarded Dansby, making him the league's highest paid linebacker with a 5-year $43 million deal with $22 million guaranteed. Dansby leaves a gaping hole that is sure to be filled by Gerald Hayes and an unnamed inexperienced linebacker.

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The other key Cardinal on the open market was free safety Antrel Rolle, who was released by the Cardinals on Thursday to avoid a $4 million roster bonus. Rolle met with the Bears later that night but eventually ruled them out and saw the New York Giants on Friday. Late Friday night, the deal was completed and Antrel Rolle was made the richest(5 years, $27 million) safety in NFL history - a deal the Cardinals would not match. Now that Rolle has left, the Cardinals are reportedly interested in signing former Steeler safety Ryan Clark.

March 5th, 2010 has proven to be one of the darkest days in Cardinals history but Cardinal fans should keep their head high as Ken Whisenhunt and the front office has had great success drafting stars and role players in the draft. The two additional picks give them eight total with a possible compensatory pick as well. The Cardinals may also turn around and trade the picks to draft higher if a player of interest is available. With two big names gone, the Cardinals can also focus on keeping current stars in Arizona happy(Darnell Dockett). What are your thoughts after day one?

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With the loss of these key players, will the Cardinals win the NFC West next season?
Yes - They're still full of star-power
159 votes
No way - Losing key players hurt their chances
385 votes
Too soon to tell - ask me after the draft
428 votes

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Foote to meet with Cards monday. If we sign him and Clark ill feel much better

But I like your analogy. I feel better after puking. We all knew this was coming.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 7:56 PM MST up reply actions  

So many ex-Steelers

McFadden, Foote, Clark … coincidence?

by jburning on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't like it

I want to be the Arizona Cardinls, not the ex-Pittsburgh Steelers. Foote is one thing because we are in desperate need of a quality, veteran linebacker. I’m not overly familiar with Clark, but I"m going to take that as a negative. I feel like, if he were worth signing, I’d be much more familiar with him. I don’t think we should be signing players simply because they used to be Steeles.

by SundayBlitz on Mar 5, 2010 8:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Steelers West

=P

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by Johnny_S on Mar 6, 2010 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 7:56 PM MST up reply actions  

A lot of action in one day.

Glad things are happening quickly. Much preferable to suffering through a long wait. It will be interesting to watch how the Cardinals respond to these losses. Foote is on his way in next week. I’d like to see the team make a serious bid for Sharper and see how badly the Saints will fight for him. If he’ll play for what the Cardinals offered Rolle it will be a coup. A lot of free agency to go with the plate cleaned early.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 8:00 PM MST reply actions  

I was thinking Sharper too...

I’d even pay more for Sharper over Rolle. Not too much more though.

by JohnLV on Mar 5, 2010 8:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Clark or Sharper is fine with me, but one NEEDS to happen

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 8:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Antrel Rolle just signed with the Giants

"What I've achieved now is something that I always figured I would as a kid. I've had that type of determination since I was a youngster playing around the playgrounds, getting dirty after school." - Amare Stoudemire

by Suns R Us on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM MST reply actions  

One correction.
The two additional picks give them nine total with a possible compensatory pick as well.

With the loss of a pick we only really gained one to give us 8 draft picks plus any possible compensatory picks. I still feel good about our team. I think we should prob go after a few guys:

Jamaal Wlilliams- dude is big and he plaed NT in a 3-4 for the Chargers.
Maake Kemoeatu- dude is also big and he played in a 3-4 when he was with the Ravens.
Jim Sorgi- there is no way he didn’t learn anything after spending all those years backing up Peyton.

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by hevchv on Mar 5, 2010 8:21 PM MST reply actions  

Fixed

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't feel good about it.

But I’ll wait until the Draft.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 5, 2010 8:25 PM MST reply actions  

$80 mil over 5 years between Rolle and Dansby

Both of them the highest paid for their position in the league. For all those in panic mode, that’s something to keep in mind before throwing yourself out the window. With Dockett’s contract on the horizon too, what room would they have left.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM MST reply actions  

The Giants and Dolphins overpaid....

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 5, 2010 8:30 PM MST up reply actions  

blast from the past

The last two years have been damn near magical for long-suffering Cards fans. It makes me sick to my stomach to watch them revert back to the same B.S. Gone are Warner, Boldin, Dansby, & Rolle, replaced with Leinart, Ducet, and two scrubs? good-bye playoffs, hello third in the NFC west. Rod Graves is a joke. The Bidwells are losers. Welcome back to striving for MEDIOCRITY

by kb723 on Mar 5, 2010 8:30 PM MST reply actions  

You are the weakest link.

Good Bye.

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by hevchv on Mar 5, 2010 8:33 PM MST up reply actions  

well said.

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by hevchv on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 8:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Dansby was getting older??? Really??? I want some of what your smoking

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
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by boogatt66 on Mar 6, 2010 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

+1 Urban's post that Rolle was basically offered the same deal in AZ is surprising

Maybe he just wanted a change of scenery, but Rolle is the only surprise. I think we all knew that Boldin was going to Baltimore, but the 3rd/4th was surprising. I’m surprised the Cards had to give up a pick in the trade.

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by CardsFan08 on Mar 7, 2010 12:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't think he appreciated Adub.

Rolle has already said now that he is in NY they will have the best safety duo in the NFL. I guess he didn’t think he could have it here.

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by hevchv on Mar 8, 2010 5:58 AM MST up reply actions  

San Fran has better players now!

They’ve physically manhandled the cardinals last year and now are the class of the division! Beating this guys twice next year? only if the football gods grant the cardinals some big breaks!

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 5, 2010 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, they totally blew us out

Man, not even close. We are doomed.

by tw3kr on Mar 6, 2010 4:32 AM MST up reply actions  

You are SOOO Bitter.

I’m sorry for you.

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by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 6:00 AM MST up reply actions  

So what do you think of the Rhodes move Boog.

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by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 9:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Really, calm down

I don’t think one person has said the Cardinals are getting better, just that they’ll be ok. Dont forget the Cardinals only went 9-7 with this juggernaut of a team you think we had. The defense couldn’t stop a QB sneak in the playoffs so mixing up the D may be for the best.

I don’t see how you can be mad at the FO when they matched Rolle’s deal and threw a big deal at Dansby. Both of them wanted out of AZ and that’s pretty clear. The FO even tried to make a deal happen with Q but he refused. You can’t do much when the player doesn’t want to be here anymore and frankly, if they don’t want to be here then so be it. Bye!

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

let's examine this!

I’ve never said this team was a total juggernaut but, offensively they were! My big question is what makes people think that that idiot graves is going to make the correct moves here? He didn’t have a good off season last year! Take away beanie wells falling into his lap last year and every thing else was marginal! Now all of a sudden this guy is a guru? please! Green’s moves got this team to where is was. And Kurt Warner! Why isn’t he taking heat for the absurd contract he gave rolle as a rookie? this shouldn’t have happened with rolle. I fully believe that If whiz was truly calling the shots here, boldin would still be here because whiz stated over and over that this is a better team when he is on the field. This is all on the cheap*** bidwell’s Those that left obviously didn’t feel welcomed by the front office and ownership!

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

like i mentioned an another post.....

Dennis Green was in charge of the draft during his tenure here. he was responsible for bringing in all the marquee talent except, a. wilson. That’s why i haven’t mentioned anything graves has done! But if you don’t think that wells isn’t the best of the rookie running backs and he fell to the cardinals, then your in as much denial as many of the posters here!

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 6, 2010 4:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I never said anything like that

Where are you even coming from? I never mentioned who I think is the best of the class, but I did say that the other teams passed on him — which is another way of saying he fell to the Cards. My point was that we were going to take whoever was there.

You didn’t mention any of the drafts Graves have done because you don’t want to give him any credit. It’s called bias, and you’re going a little overboard with it.

by tw3kr on Mar 7, 2010 12:56 AM MST up reply actions  

With the plan b that came through for us you should count your lucky stars Rolle Signed with NY!

Yes, Rolle is an incredible athlete and an above average safety. But the deal we got for Rhodes, who is arguably the better safety of the two, actually upgrades the secondary. He’s more consistent and, so far on paper, is a better fit fit for the D scheme. We like to move our safeties around and give unusual looks with them, as well as blitz the QB, which Rhodes already has a niche for. He’s like a poor mans A-Dub! lol He’s still young and should be hitting his prime, and with already 9 sacks and 15 INT, we may just have another 20/20 safety to add to the list. And all this just shows that Rolle would rather have a pay day than be loyal to his team. Nothing against him, that’s just how it is.

As for Dansby, he was gone to begin with, so no need to gripe at the FO for that. They tried for 2 seasons to get something done. Honestly, it’s the Bidwells, they’re not going to franchise somebody TWICE because they like to spend absurd amounts of money. lol

As for Q, that just plain sucks. But as stupid as it seems, it makes a lot of sense. Warner retired (he was one of the biggest advocates to keep 81) so you know it’s not going to be a pass happy offense anymore. Suddenly, a more balanced offense makes Q expendable with the young, quality, and inexspensive talent behind him. Honestly, I would rather see Q stay, Breaston/ Doucet traded, and the FO draft new WR depth. Nothing against 15 or 80, I’m just a big Boldin fan and would rather keep the tandem together. But in reality it doesn’t work that way. And now we have more than enough money to resign the players that they feel fit the plans for the new direction the organization is taking (ie Dockett) and a couple of extra draft picks to compensate for the loss and build toward the future.

Welcome to the business side of football. It’s the natural progression of things. Besides, the Ravens, Giants, and Dolphins just got a little better, which will make Sundays that much more entertaining. Now we can draft new talent, watch them develop, then leave as well. lol

by lifeinthepit00 on Mar 7, 2010 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

And just to add...

With a year under the belt for the DC, he can now start to build the defense he thinks will work within the direction of the HC.

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by hevchv on Mar 8, 2010 6:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Word!

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Mar 6, 2010 5:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Everyone keeps forgetting how bad our defense got towards the end of the season.

My thoughts are that many players stopped playing like a team and started playing more individually to raise their FA status. I bet with younger guys more concerned about playing time, teamwork will again come in the picture. And if we can add some strong veteran presence, here and there, we will start to see our full potential slowly revealed.

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by hevchv on Mar 5, 2010 8:41 PM MST reply actions  

I agree

We allowed 90 points in the last two playoff games WITH these two defenders. Clearly the defense just didn’t fit together like it should have. I think Whiz will get the kind of guys he likes to replace them caugh Foote and Clark caugh.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

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by hevchv on Mar 5, 2010 8:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Really?

I agree with you both most of the time, but I can’t here. I just don’t see how Foote and Clark are upgrades over Rolle and Dansby. We did get scored on with both of those guys on the field, but it wasn’t normally those guys that were getting picked on. I’m not being a downer, because I think we still have opportunity to upgrade, but I’m getting a little annoyed that the only direction we seem to be looking is the ghost of Steelers past.

by SundayBlitz on Mar 5, 2010 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Neither of us said they'd be upgrades but rather good replacements

I think it’s a coincidence that both are former Steelers. Foote would be the most ideal ILB on the market right now, and he’s only 30. Clark has to be the best FS too. Unless you’d rather have Gabril Wilson – pass.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd rather have Sharper.

And I don’t think he’s out of reach either.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe not but he's def a temp fix

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 9:32 PM MST up reply actions  

A-Ok with me.

If he’s got 2-3 years left of quality ball I’d count that a win.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually, I'm okay with that too

Getting a temp fix at FS right now wouldn’t be a bad idea. If we can get 2 years out of a quality veteran, it gives us time to make a solid FS draft selection and have him learn under a quality vet.

by SundayBlitz on Mar 6, 2010 7:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah,

I wasn’t agreeing that they’d be good replacements, but rather if we’re going to give up that many points, then maybe they can’t play together. I could care less what teams they come from. I just want cohesion, chemistry, production, a winning attitude and a little nastiness to boot. They could come from the arena league for all I care.

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by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 6:07 AM MST up reply actions  

'I just want cohesion, chemistry, production, a winning attitude and a little nastiness to boot.'

Excellent point. I think we can all agree with this statement. And which team is the model in the NFL for these characteristics year in year out? Which team has the most Super Bowl victories in the history of the league?
The reality is we are modeling our team after the best franchise in the history of the NFL bar none. As we should, as every team should. The fact that we have ties to directly bring players and influence and the mentality from that organization to ours is a plus. Be happy people, we’re striving to be the best.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Mar 6, 2010 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Right, usually it was McFadden and Adams getting torched.

Rhodes is an upgrade over Rolle in my opinion (he should thrive in our D scheme). Larry Foote may not be an upgrade, but he’s a good, steady MLB that plays well in a 3-4. He would be good to have while they develop a MLB over the next year or two. But it does suck because he’s another ex-Squeeler. But then again, Whiz knows what he getting with him and wouldn’t sign him if he didn’t think he could help our team. I think McFadden benefitted from having Polamalu and a stand out pass rush in Pittsburgh. But Foote did well for the Lions, nothing stellar, but that was in a 4-3 scheme. He’s a better 3-4 player. I wouldn’t mind getting Foote as long as they pick a MLB early in the draft to groom.

by lifeinthepit00 on Mar 7, 2010 8:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Dream scenario

Sign Porter & Foote, draft Weatherspoon in first. Snag BPA in 2nd. Corner (or TE) & QB in 3rd. Quality depth from 4th, 6th, 7th.

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by sc464 on Mar 7, 2010 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

didnt finis thought process

this allows grooming for W Davis & C Brown as well as Weatherspoon (if we get him). Also means that either McFadden holds the #2 spot or Toler beats him out. My guess is McFadden holds it for another year.

Another though I have had is that next year (this is way out there but I think it is genius) they draft a SS to be groomed by Wilson. Wilson continues to start then halfway through the following year the drafted guy steps in and allows us to use Wilson in a blitzing & zone scheme that is totally different than anything else. Something similar to what we did when Ware got on the field, just do it in a more conventional way. This could be a totally dumb though but it is at least exciting.

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by sc464 on Mar 7, 2010 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Wilson

OLB as he ages? Who knows, could extend his career.

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by Jessesb on Mar 7, 2010 11:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I say ILB in our 3-4. He only needs to add about 5 lbs.

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by hevchv on Mar 8, 2010 6:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Sounds like the Cardinals offered Rolle the same thing.

He just wanted to go to New York…

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 5, 2010 8:49 PM MST reply actions  

Its crazy how many star players we had/have

I think some of us were spoiled.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 8:56 PM MST reply actions  

Still Nervous

Everybody is so excited about the draft, and rightfull so. I’m as excited as each of you. However, let’s not forget that Whiz rarely drafts a guy and starts him. So, if you’re planning on drafting a bunch of young talent that is going to step right in and make a difference, I wouldn’t put coin on that happening. Maybe our first and/or second round pick, depending on what position we draft. They may start if they fill a big hole. This may also be a year where, unlike 2009, more rookies see the field because we have so many holes. But, the fact of the matter is, we aren’t going to draft a replacement for a Rolle or a Dansby.

I agree that they weren’t worth the money it would’ve taken to keep them here. Still, I’m staying grounded. Replacing Dansby with Foote, in my opinion, is a step down. Replacing Rolle with Clark is a big step down. Doucet is talented, but for now he has to be considered a step down (i know technically Boobs is the #2 but he is a step down from Boldin as well). Leinart is a step down from Warner.

Yes, we needed the money so we can pay guys like Dockett and I hope, for the Cardinals sake, they do just that. Regardless, unless we actually make some solid moves before the draft, 2010 is looking shaky to me. I still think our offense is strong and will make some moves forward. Defensively though, I felt we needed to make BIG strides forward to improve upon 2009. Honestly, right now I feel as if we’ve taken 2 GIANT (no pun intended) steps backwards.

I hope we start getting active in the market because Foote is not a team savior. We need a big defensive move. Maybe that move is sharper. Regardless, we need to mak a real move to ruffle the waters.

by SundayBlitz on Mar 5, 2010 8:56 PM MST reply actions  

take a deep breath guys

Boldin needed to go…we are deep at WR. Secondly we all new Los was leaving. Los is good but not great. Remember we have have a surprise in Cody Brown who is incredible. Docket needs to simmer down. Foote and/or Porter will be better with our youth talent.

Here’s what I point to boys. Whiz and Graves sly smile and a silent attitude like they are playing chess and winning the game. The NFL isn’t about NAMES its about coaching, draft, coaching, draft, coaching, draft. It’s a young man’s sport…keep drafting well…keep winning.

by Punisher3190 on Mar 5, 2010 9:15 PM MST reply actions  

Rolle

on a side note…this isn’t a huge loss at all…he isn’t worth more that A-dub and his spot can be filled. I hope it goes well for him he’s a tremendous guy just don’t think he’s worth more than half of and A-dub

by Punisher3190 on Mar 5, 2010 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Let me reiterate...

I’ve agreed with really every move, and non-move, so far. We did need to trade Q. I don’t think Rolle or Dansby were worth keeping at the price. So we needed to set them both free. I’m agreeing with how it has gone so far.

What I’m saying is that we still are a few steps backwards right now then we were previously. Yes, we have Cody Brown, but you reallyl can’t say he’s incredible. He hasn’t played yet. At one point in time, people said Ryan Leaf was incredible. I’ll wait to see his play in the NFL before I assess his skills

by SundayBlitz on Mar 5, 2010 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Good Point

Rolle was a Pro-Bowler this year, but that was more out of circumstance due to injuries. He is certainly a quailty FS, but I do agree it is ridiculous to make him the highest paid FS ever. Now that I’ve had time to sleep on it, I think we’ll be okay here. Our LB’s did get burned a lot with Dansby on the field and our secondary with Rolle, and while we have not upgraded the position, yet, a change in defensive attitude and cohesion would be an excellent thing for this team.

by SundayBlitz on Mar 6, 2010 7:35 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

“The NFL isn’t about NAMES its about coaching, draft, coaching, draft, coaching, draft. It’s a young man’s sport…keep drafting well…keep winning.”

Agreed. I’ll take some youth, some smart veterans and good coaching over “get paid” attitudes.

by JohnLV on Mar 5, 2010 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

$108 million worth of talent apparently.

If that talent walks when you offer the same money what can you do about it? Your right about Whisenhunt. He’ll have to continue to prove himself. Bill Davis maybe even more so.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 9:41 PM MST up reply actions  

'But now we’ll see just how good of a coach whiz truly is!'

After this statement I’m officially tired of your posts. You have no intelligence whatsoever. You are the down’s syndrome inflicted Cardinals fan. Whiz took a 5-11 team to an 8-8 record in one off-season and 2 out of 3 seasons took us to the playoffs including 1 super bowl appearance. We know how good he is, the league knows how good he is, end of story. Life long cards fan my ass.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Mar 8, 2010 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

I think guys here are seriously underestimating how much talent has left the organization.

And I think you are seriously underestimating how much talent this organization has left.

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by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 6:12 AM MST up reply actions  

okay where is the talent on defense now?

This team is now 5 or 6 players away from being a quality defense now! name me this talent on defense you’re talking about outside of dockett and an aging a. wilson! another guy in denial!

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 6, 2010 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Umm

Calais, DRC, Davis (before injury), Toler (finished very strong), and now Kerry Rhodes.
Booya?

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by Jessesb on Mar 6, 2010 5:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I think LLCF

Has been a fan too long and has had his soul ripped out too many times by the FO. That’s why he can’t see the positives in the situation. Times a changing buddy.
Your gonna say? Positives, what positives? The SB run, two post seasons, two winning seasons, Whiz (in whom we trust), and the future we are going to have with him as our coach. If you can’t see the upside than you have been sippin on too much hatter aid.
YES we lost a few players but I am not really worried. Fins had a great season with some no names. Great coaching staffs make great players. I am now going to refer to you as “the whiner” from here on out.

They are who we thought they were!

by Jessesb on Mar 7, 2010 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I had the same arguments with llfc.

He won’t come around. Just too bitter.

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Mar 8, 2010 6:15 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Mar 8, 2010 6:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Crap did I just become the resident optimist?

Great…

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds

by Andrew602 on Mar 5, 2010 9:30 PM MST reply actions  

Better you than me. Ha Ha.

As a born and bred cynic I can relate to your comment though.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 9:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Andrew

Man forgive me for sounding like a jerk but you have no idea how angry I am with todays developments! I’m so darned mad I can’t even type correctly! here we are a step away from being a truly elite team to falling back to the pack because of mismanagement by the front office and ownership! Those guys burned bridges with those players and thats why they left!

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 5, 2010 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

The hardest thing this team has to overcome

is the reputation it has created for itself. It is disappointing that even with a coach that has the team turned in the right direction that players are jumping ship for the money. I won’t argue for a minute with you about why these guys left. I only hope that under Michael instead of Bill that the team changes course and over time the organization is recognized as one that players want to be a part of. The Cardinals were a losing team for so long entirely because of mismanagement.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I finally agree with and at a 100% rate.

I think that’s exactly why they left. But those contracts were made before Whiz and GM Graves took over. Without being in house, I would think the players who have come afterwards are much happier with the org. But I obviously could be wrong too.

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 6:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Born in'76 so you got me there.

With that said, what has the FO done in the past three years to piss you off. Let Rolle go. Its been reported we offered a similar deal. He just wanted to leave. Now we have Rhodes. Not extend Q. He was just extended a few years ago. Let KD go. Really? Is he worth the money. Draft poorly. I won’t even dignify that one. Come on. Help me out. I’m trying to see things from your point of view. Same ol Cards. Ok. Maybe. But I seriously doubt it.

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 9:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Same ol' Cards wouldn't have swung for Kerry Rhodes

We’re not a talent farm anymore, but we can’t pay for everyone. This is just football, my friends.

by tw3kr on Mar 7, 2010 1:00 AM MST up reply actions  

maybe you would do better with a change of scenery as they say lifelongcardfan!

if i could i’d trade you to redskins for a hoggette and some cash as everyone knows snyder is willing to overpay for anything!

by az78true on Mar 7, 2010 8:14 AM MST up reply actions  

haha!

Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.

by sc464 on Mar 7, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Always the optimist

I’ve been saying the Cards will make the playoffs before every season since 1974. It’s happened 6 times in those 35 years. With Whiz and Graves resigned (1st time bringing a coach back). I have confidence that they’ll do the right things to keep the current playoff streak going.
 The defense needed some tweeking anyway. May as well start from scratch and overhaul it.
With 2 compensatory picks (Rolle/Dansby—probably 3rd round or better for each)and the extra picks for Q—hopefully we’ll trade up and get a couple of starters in the draft.
With Warner retired—thankfully our running game has improved and we will change tactics and become a ball control offense and that in turn will help the defense.
GO CARDS!!!

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Mar 5, 2010 9:42 PM MST reply actions  

Your right

it’s been a long day. I forgot. Even so, an extra for Dansby would give the team 7picks in the first 4 rounds. That would make for a nice draft haul or something extra to work with on a trade.

by hadrarius on Mar 5, 2010 9:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Not really.

If we get anything for KD it won’t be until next season. You don’t get compensatory picks for players lost in the same year if I’m not mistaken.

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 6:20 AM MST up reply actions  

No doubt

it’s been a lousy day, so for those who think we don’t get your frustration, we do. But just as hard as it is to recite a time when a team did well after losing the amount of talent we have, it’s equally as hard to come up with a time when having a bunch of overpaid players on the roster didn’t set a team up for failure for years (aka – the Redskins, Raiders, etc). I’m sure there will be some growing pains next season, but as it’s been noted we’re still in the NFC West and we have drafted exceptionally well recently. For long-term success, for once, I think the front office is doing things right.

by Long Beach on Mar 5, 2010 11:15 PM MST reply actions  

The is no guarantee of drafting good players!

Just take away all the players on the team that GREEN drafted and you have only a couple of decent players here! Graves isn’t a proven GM in my eyes! Wells fell into his lap and he did draft campbell but the main reason this team was successful was because of dennis green’s drafting and the signing of warner. It’s going to take 2-3 more off seasons to get this team back to where it was and even that isn’t certain. this team is now back to having top 10 draft picks now and to me that a damned shame because it didn’t have to be this way! a bigger question to me is what is everyone gonna say about the ownership when they horde all the available money instead of spending it? furthermore what are the season ticket holders gonna say when these same idiots raise their ticket prices for an inferior product?

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 6, 2010 12:32 AM MST reply actions  

Black Friday in birdville

But time to move on

13- Warner, 23- Sandberg, 40- Tillman, 11- Walter

by TBru on Mar 6, 2010 12:54 AM MST reply actions  

You're right!

But i need to vent my frustrations for a day or two.

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:12 AM MST up reply actions  

I see no need to vent

Losing Dansby was expected. The fact that they even gave him a big offer surprised me. Rolle was a tougher lose to swallow but his desire for money was apparent. I think there is still some distrust but guys like A-Dub, Fitz and Warner bought in. Our best players bought in, that’s enough for me.
And actually I think Whiz’s draft picks are developing nicely. The last two years draft classes have contributed a lot and now Whiz has more say in the drafting and management of the team.
We aren’t as good as last year on a paper, its a fact. But I agree with the argument that our D was inconsistent and that it was high time to reshape and rebuild the D. I am willing to deal with a few bad years in order for a stronger future. After waiting as many years as I have for a team that could make the playoffs I can wait, again. This isn’t the same old Cardinals, Whiz turned us around and I truly believe this ship will be righted.

They are who we thought they were!

by Jessesb on Mar 6, 2010 4:47 AM MST reply actions  

AMEN!

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 6:24 AM MST up reply actions  

I am content even though we lost 5 of our best 22 players

Boldin should have been traded last year IMO. I wish we could have gotten a third and a fourth without giving up our fifth, but still, for a guy almost 30 that is injury prone, at least we got something. Had we traded him last year we could have gotten a #1 pick, but even that is no guarantee to be better than a third rdr.

I was surprised B Berry was as productive as he was in ’09, so seeing him go is dealable

Warner, well, we are going to miss him

Both Dansby and Rolle were both solid but not dominating players. They received dominating players money, and no way would I have given them that much. Good for them, they earned it, but in the long term in can actually be a blessing in disguise. Instead of investing more time into them, we can at a much cheaper rate develop others that may actually turn out to be just as good if not better.

i.e., if we were to sign Ryan Clark he may outperform Rolle instantly. D Sharper is a HOF’r, and I love the guy, but I don’t see him being cheap.

Isn’t Foote another Gerald Hayes?

http://undrafteds.com/

by Undrafteds on Mar 6, 2010 6:59 AM MST reply actions  

Sharper may not be cheap

but I’ll bet he’d be cheaper than the offer they ended up giving to Rolle. If they were ready to give huge money to keep either Dansby or Rolle, or both, then we may see a little more FA spending than we are used to this year.

by hadrarius on Mar 6, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

After thinking about all of this

I wanted all 3 to stay, I’m not happy, but it had to be done.

Boldin is one of my favorite players, but he is getting old. And has has been beaten up a lot because of the way he plays. Hopefully he can hold up for a while with the Ravens so I can keep watching him play whenever I get to see a Ravens game.

Rolle and Dansby were good, but they were overrated. And now the Giants and Dolphins ****** away too much money on them. Karlos didn’t play as hard until it was contract time, I see him having a bad year in Miami, Rolle was a bust at CB who we had to move to FS and he thought he was worth more than Wilson, Reed, and Polamalu. I can honestly see them not having much of an impact with their new teams, and since they were just in it for the money I would love to see the Giants and Dolphins tank next season.

Hopefully Whiz finds a few gems in the draft again.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 6, 2010 8:36 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks for showing such great class.

Any chance some of that could rub off on Puple Koolaid?

Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Mar 6, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 6, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm just one man....

The Q situation has been brewing for a while, and I’m just glad you guys have some resolution that going to mitigate the loss of a great WR.

And always had a soft spot for the Cards when I saw the game Pat Tillman played against the Ravens. That man was a sight to behold in that game. Reading the Jon Krakuer bio these days. And any team that can get that close to beating the Steelers in the Super Bowl gains my respect.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Mar 6, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

WHAT A LOUSY ANALOGY!

First, Chester Taylor was a backup when he left and it wasn’t the same season when Adalious Thomas left. The ravens haven’t lost the quality players in one off season like the cardinals just have. and had they, you’d be singing a far different tune now!

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 6, 2010 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Um, reading comprehension. Try it sometime.
We had already cut loose Chester Taylor at that point.

I never said it was the same season.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Mar 6, 2010 6:22 PM MST up reply actions  

your analogy is still off buddy!

lose ed reed, ray lewis and suggs. then come back here with this bull that your saying!

by lifelongcardfan on Mar 6, 2010 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

No, llc, it's your analogy that's off

You’re only looking at the positions, not the talent. Where does Suggs even come into it? Those are their core defensive players you’re listing, you maniac. Our losses are incomparable. We let some good players go, but none of them are our best players, nor our core. I agree with duck — relax with all the exclamation points and take the time to read better.

by tw3kr on Mar 7, 2010 1:04 AM MST up reply actions  

+1 Great post

I’ve been saying something similar to your post. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cards had a down year next year, but then bounced back to playoff form the year after. We may have lost a few good guys, but our defense was not very good toward the end of the year and it was old and needed refitting. This should be seen as a good cleaning house and a chance to get younger and more talented.

I’ll miss Rolle’s playmaking ability, not his inability to wrap up a ball carrier. I won’t miss Dansby. Boldin will be missed, but at least we got something for him to help rebuild the team. My prediction, 2010 will be weird for Cardinals fans, lol.

Section 102, Row 18

by CardsFan08 on Mar 7, 2010 12:35 AM MST up reply actions  

We didnt get better but....

We are now in a great position to sign dockett and bring in some good free agents.

We didn’t have to make rolle the highest paid safety in the NFL (higher than a Wilson, polumaulu, and ed reed) which makes me very happy.

Dansby wasn’t even a top 10 linebacker in the league and good riddance for that much money.

We are 6-1 without boldin in the lineup and he has one of the lowest vertical passing statistics in the entire league. Doucet in three games made bigger plays than boldin did all year.

We have 9 draft picks!!!! With the way we have been drafting the last 3 years we are in a better position than we were yesterday.

by card-deville on Mar 6, 2010 11:42 AM MST reply actions  

+1

But correction I believe we have 8 draft picks since we gave them our 5th rounder in the trade.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Mar 6, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Sigh...

The first day of free agency has come and past. What we predicted would happen did take place. However the majority of the people on this page suffer from short-term memory loss. I say that because this past postseason, our defense, led by the ‘captain’ Karlos Dansby and with Antrel Rolle as a large ‘contributor’, WERE THE WORST DEFENSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE PLAYOFFS! ALL-TIME! NONE WORST!
We gave up so many points over a two-game span our defense should have been cut immediately after the game. No bonuses paid out, no nothing. These players want to get paid more because they’re so GOOD? They were just major parts of the worst defense in the history of the NFL playoffs. Good Riddance….
I know I’m overreacting sorry my point is just that all is not lost. These players did not make up the defense and were not even the best players. We still have A-Dub and Nine-O. DRC is up and coming and could someday contend to be the best corner in the NFL. If we get some depth at positions through the draft so we can continuously have fresh legs throughout the game, I think we’ll be just fine.
Okay guys rip it up.
GO CARDINALS!!!

by cardsfanforlife24 on Mar 6, 2010 12:06 PM MST reply actions  

No apology needed cards-fan. You are right on the money.

by card-deville on Mar 6, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

HOW MUCH UNDER THE CAP ARE WE

4 YEARS OF SELLOUTS AND 3 PLAYOFF GAME SELLOUTS……I HOPE THE CARDS MANAGEMENT DONT THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD HOME SCHEDUELE WITH THE LIKES OF COWBOY`S ,BRONCO`S SAINTS AND RAIDERS COMING IN THEY CAN PUT ANYTHING ON THE FIELD AND SELLOUT…IT WILL HURT ATTENDANCE IN THE FUTURE FOR SURE…..LETS GET GOING BIDWELL AND GRAVES!!!!!!!!!!

by DIEGOCARDSFAN on Mar 6, 2010 12:57 PM MST reply actions  

Just got Rhodes from the Jets

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35743328/ns/sports-player_news/

The Cardinals have traded a 2010 fourth-round pick and a 2011 seventh-round pick to the Jets for FS Kerry Rhodes, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

This coming just over 24 hours since Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum stated that Rhodes would remain with the team in 2010. Though Rhodes made news for a mid-season benching, he played well down the stretch, earning his starting job back. Due just over $7 million the next two seasons, he’s a cost-effective replacement for Antrel Rolle. Give Cardinals GM Rod Graves credit for nice use of the fourth-rounder acquired for Anquan Boldin.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 6, 2010 5:15 PM MST reply actions  

NFL network commenting about Rhodes

that The Cards DB coach (don’t remember the name) was with the Jets when Rhodes was drafted. That it was part of his “comfort factor” and got the “best production” from him.

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Mar 6, 2010 5:53 PM MST reply actions  

I sure hope so!

They are who we thought they were!

by Jessesb on Mar 7, 2010 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Can we stop all the doom and gloom talk now?

Rhodes is a beter safety than Rolle period. I’m from the NY area and have watched plenty of NYJ football, so I know of what I speak. Guy got benched last year and almost matched Rolle’s numbers. We are getting him at almost half the price(contract-wise). This is win-win all the way.
People bad-mouthing this FO don’t know what they are talking about. This team has been built almost solely thru the draft and has had back-to-back successful years. Teams have overpaid for our FA’s the last 2 years and this year is no different. I mean, seriously? Do you not think that the NYG’s already feel like they have been had?
Enough of that though. I would still like 2 FA moves. Foote would be a good start and a Delhomme signing would give the Cards the experienced backup that they need.
Also, Shaun Rogers is on the market in Cleveland, which makes sense since you know Holmgren will clean house on that team. Anybody know what the Browns are looking for?

by toolman234 on Mar 6, 2010 9:47 PM MST reply actions  

Did you really say Delhomme? You really are the toolman...

Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!

by boogatt66 on Mar 7, 2010 5:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Well Carr is with the Whiners now... so maybe Charlie Batch given Whiz's love of bringing in ex-Steelers?

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Mar 7, 2010 8:44 PM MST up reply actions  

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