After Busy Start To Free Agency, Cardinals Land Kerry Rhodes In Trade
by Andrew602 on Mar 6, 2010 9:43 PM MST
in 2010 Offseason
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Things can change very quickly in the matter of a day. On Friday, safety Antrel Rolle was off visiting with the New York Giants, hoping to get a big payday. His request was granted and he became the highest paid safety in NFL history. Despite matching the offer, Rolle elected to not return to the Cardinals.
Cardinal fans were surprised. But while some were upset with the loss of Rolle, many felt that the Giants overpaid, and keeping Rolle at that price just wasn't worth it.
The next day, management went out and made a statement move. The Cardinals sent one of their 2010 4th-round picks and a 2011 7th-round pick to the New York Jets for free safety Kerry Rhodes. I loved the move.
For a team that would already have an abundance amount of picks in April, to only lose a 4th and a 7th for next year shows what kind of deal the Cardinals got on Saturday. They acquired a safety that is the same age as Rolle with just as much talent, and they got him at a much cheaper price tag.
We don't know a lot about Rhodes, considering he's been a Jet his entire career and the Cardinals don't play them often. He's a hard hitter and his coverage skills can be just as good as Rolle's. The biggest drop off is that we won't be seeing the same big plays with the ball that we're used to seeing from Rolle. But in the end, the Cardinals went out and found a replacement to show that they are serious about keeping a winning mindset in Arizona.
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wow
that’s all i can say. you guys ROYALLY raped the jets today. that is just showing that him and Rex Ryan were at wits end with each other, and they just wanted it to be over.
As a new yorker and Jet supporter(Giant fan) i’ll tell you what i see in kerry: the boy has talent. he’s young, and when he’s on, he has a nose for the ball. he is not that hard of a hitter, probably above average, and when he is motivated, he is pro bowl caliber. but that was the problem the Jets had with him these past 2 seasons. he hasn’t been motivated since he got his new contract. Alot of people viewed him as a primadonna and more concerned about trying to become a model(i think he did some ads) than playing football. he was benched last season as i’m sure most of you know, but then was re-inserted into the lineup and was denzel – man on fire. had a flurry of good games to wrap up the season and a decent playoff run.
if he is focused, which i’m sure he will be to show the jets what they did, he will be good.
Jeez a 4th and a 7th? still hard to believe….
Lol @ him being on fire after being benched
he was passable. Everybody got all excited that he came in as a nickel and picked Jake Delhomme of twice on two horribly thrown balls 10 feet over the head of the receiver into the waiting arms of Kerry Rhodes. 2006 and 2007, he was a star, 2008 and 2009, marginal safety at best. Used to be a playmaker, now he is just a step slow on everything. He did play better in the playoffs, and he does have talent, but he hasn’t been good since 2007. If you have a real leader of the defense to sit and make him watch film, it will work wonders. Jon Vilma was supposedly hard on Kerry to prepare, and stayed on him to keep up on film, and when he left, Kerry just got lazy. I like the Cards, I live in Zona, so I hope it works out. But royally raping? Lol.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
I think that Wilson can light a fire under his ass.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
If you view him as over the hill thats fine
i still think he’s in his prime, just not motivated. You can’t be a step slow at 27, and major injury free. he’s just a step not motivated. look at his 2006 season: 98 tackles, 5 sacks, 4 picks, 3 FF. that’s still in him, just needs a fire lit under his ass.
look at this past season. after he was benched, he had 8 passes defensed and 3 picks. before that, 5 passes defensed and 0 picks. yeah true those 2 that he picked that first week weren’t on point peyton manning type missiles, but he put himself in proper position to be around the play in case something like that happened. before being benched, he would’ve been nowhere around the plays, and those picks wouldn’t have happened.
my point is, is he a better safety then you could’ve drafted in the 4th round? IMHO i say yes. so that’s why i say rapeage. he’s not a HOF, but when motivated to be the best, he’s awfully nasty.
now it’s all about who’s gonna do it on this team. A.Wilson? your DC? himself?
my point is, is he a better safety then you could’ve drafted in the 4th round?
Maybe, maybe not. Remember, Kerry was a 4th round pick. Would I prefer a 4th and Atogwe over Rhodes next year? Absolutely. Look, I own a Kerry Rhodes jersey. I thought he was going to be a perennial all pro. It didn’t work out here, for some reason he seemed to fight Rex and DB coach Dennis Thurman every step of the way. Most guys thrive under Rex, Rhodes regressed. I wish him the best, but I like the trade from both sides.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
difference is
if you wait on Atogwe, the Rams can match your offer sheet, whereas i’m guessing the Jets were ready to move now. if you would’ve passed on that, then struck out on Atogwe, then where would you have been? Darren Sharper, which is still a good option, but only for a year or two, and you would’ve been going up against a half dozen or more teams that will be vying for him.
if you don’t look at Rhodes as any better than a 4th, then it was a lateral move. myself, i think kerry could’ve gotten a 3 or better, somewhere. hell, there were rumors of trading him for Osi Umenyiora straight up, and insiders feel he’s worth a 1st, or high 2nd at the worse. either way, i guess time will tell if you guys got motivated Kerry, or see above Kerry. from my viewpoint, i think the Jets royally f-ed up.
Great!
Great move on the Cardinals part! They’ve showed everyone that they aren’t giving up! Keep it up, Cardinals!
excellent trade
I’ve never been a huge Rolle fan, I thought he just wasn’t even close to A-dub’s mentality. Rhodes seems to be a perfect fit while RJ developes. I think people like 9-0 and Adub will work wonders for Rhodes career too.
I love the response
I have to agree with Sando’s comments that it demonstrates the Cards have ‘a plan.’ I like the fact that in 24 hours, they immediately responded by filling a hole, and doing it in a cost effective manner. I like the move.
matched the offer
In the first paragraph you mention that the Cards matched the offer from the Giants to Rolle, I hope not. If they did I am extremely glad Rolle left because that is a ridiculous amount of money for Rolle.
I think overall Rhodes will be more consistent than Rolle so I am looking forward to a hopefully improved secondary in 2010.
Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
+1
Agree with you 100% the main word here is consistency.
by cardsfanforlife on Mar 7, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
I feel ecstatic about Rhodes
I was pleasantly shocked this morning to find out we had traded for Rhodes….and from the fourth rounder we just picked up from the Ravens, wow. Rhodes has first round talent, no doubt about it. Great athlete, I like that AZ is building a tall secondary too. Can blitz the QB and is better in pass coverage than Rolle instantly. Not sure about run support but his upside is huge and a cheaper than Rolle. Wow what a power play by the Cards!
The real kicker is I am a Louisville fan and now Rhodes is a “double Cardinal” for me.
I had Rhodes as being a breakout player in ’09. Hopefully I was just a year off?
http://undrafteds.com/2009/07/28/6-breakout-players-for-2009/
http://undrafteds.com/
thanks tw3kr
I stand corrected. but really all I meant was we aren’t without a pick in the 4th round since we added one in the Ravens trade. isn’t keeping the Ravens fourth rounder simply one spot higher in the fourth round than the one we traded away for Kerry?
http://undrafteds.com/
i think compensatory picks come into consideration
if az would have traded their original 4th instead of the picked up one from the ravens – the pick wouldn’t be subjected to possibly being lower in the round due to compensatory picks.
i’m not 100% sure about this but i’m pretty sure that’s how it plays out.
Yeah, I think it's only a spot up right now
I had heard something similar to what az78 said, as well — both are subject to moving around still when comp. picks come into play. I’m not sure exactly.
You guys just stole one of the best FS in the league from the Jets.
You got him for a 4th and a 7th?! that’s amazing!
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 7, 2010 7:39 PM MST reply actions
That means a lot
Coming from a guy that watches Ed Reed (number 1 Safety in the league IMO) week in and week out. Thank you sir we’re excited about it too!
by cardsfanforlife24 on Mar 8, 2010 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
Just had a hunch....
Wanted to see Rolles production in games outside of our division in his career, since we all know it has been pretty easy to pad stats vs anemic Rams, Whiners and Seahags.
These are scary:
Games – 42
INT – 6
FF – 0
PD – 15
TD – 2
Sacks – 1/2
These numbers are putrid, but it gets even worse when you consider 3 INT’s and both TD’s came in one game vs CIN.
I am now more convinced than ever the Cards ABSOLUTELY made the right choice in not retaining him.
So to follow up...
I figured I had to check Rhodes numbers, but he is also a player who could(and did) fatten up his numbers vs Mia and Buff. So I did something different. I only checked his numbers vs Very good to elite QB’s to see how they looked. So his 2 INT’s vs Delhomme last year, not included. Here is the list of QB’s I used:
Brady
McNabb
Brees
Palmer
P.Manning
E.Manning
Matt Ryan
Rivers
Warner
Big Ben
Romo
Farve
D.Anderson(only in his 1 big season when Cleve went 10-6 and he threw 29 TD’s)
Here are his numbers:
Games – 23
INT – 4
FF – 3
PD – 13
TD – 0
Sacks – 2
So again, you take out the one monster game Rolle had vs CIN which you can’t, but just for arguements sake, and Rhodes playmaking production is BETTER than Rolles in 18 less games and all against top tier competition.
And I, obviously, have too much free time on my hands, but I still think the numbers are significant.
+1
i have a ton of free time on my hands as well at least for the near future. thanks for the stat breakdown!
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