Cardinals To Meet With Linebacker Joey Porter Thursday
The Arizona Cardinals will reportedly meet with linebacker and former Pittsburgh Steeler and Miami Dolphin, Joey Porter. The report was made 72 hours after the team lost inside linebacker Karlos Dansby via free agency.
Porter will be 33-years old once the season begins but has 26.5 sacks in the last two seasons and still has enough gas left in the tank to provide a productive pass rush.
The question, is whether or not he'd be worth the signing. He's clearly at the tail-end of his career and past his prime, and he could become a distraction - just as he's been in the past with previous teams.
Considering the Cardinals have already lost linebackers in Dansby, Bertrand Berry(retirement), and Chike Okeafor(free agent), bringing in Joey Porter seems like a no-brainer. He's a veteran, and he's proven himself in this league. He's also been under the coaching of Ken Whisenhunt before - when he was the offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh during their Super Bowl run of 2005.
In fact, Whisenhunt and linebacker Clark Haggans - another former Steeler- have already met with Porter this past weekend to most-likely discuss coming to Arizona.
But then there's the mouth.
Porter has never shied away from publicly stating how he felt about himself, his team, or opponents. Is this necessarily a bad thing? The Cardinals already have a designated public speaker in Darnell Dockett - who in fact, gladly accepted the idea of Porter becoming a Cardinal.
"I NOW HAVE A KOOL AID SMILE JOEY PORTER IS VISITING AZ THURSDAY, BIRD GANG WILL BE BACK IN THE MIX. ..FTW… We’re going to get stronger. LOL!"
Both have also been voted as "dirty" players in separate polls consisting of current NFL players. Porter was voted as the 2nd dirtiest player among peers by Sports Illustrated, while a poll by Sporting News had Dockett ranked as the 5th dirtiest NFL player. Porter would bring a "nastiness" to the team that would fire up both the players and the fans - and would likely add more fuel to the 49er-rivalry fire as well.
I wanted to dig a little deeper however, so I asked fellow SBNation writer over at www.phinsider.com - Matty I - to provide me with his thoughts on the former Dolphin. He was nice enough to even provide his strengths and weaknesses, which you can find below:
Strengths - At this stage of his career, Porter really only has one strength: getting to the quarterback. Even so, Joey has clearly lost a step from what he used to be. That's not to say he isn't any good. But he's not the elite pass rusher he once was despite being just one year removed from a 17.5 sack season. He's also still a vocal leader and it's clear his teammates love having him in their locker room and on their team. When he's into the game, the energy he can bring is still awesome and his ability to take over a game is still there. It just rarely comes out.
Weaknesses - I don't want this to come off as "sour grapes" by any means, but there are far more weaknesses than strengths at this stage. Porter is just not very good at all against the run. He also tends to completely disappear in games. In 2009, there were two games in which Porter started but didn't record anything in the stat sheet - not even a single tackle. The most publicized example of this was when Porter ran his mouth publicly before Miami's first meeting with the Patriots. He then promptly got shut out - and the Pats made sure everyone knew by posting Porter's stats, or lack thereof, on their video board towards the end of the game.
But that's only part of the problem with Porter. According to multiple newspaper reports, there were times over the past two seasons when Porter refused to come off the field, instead waving his replacement back to the bench - a direct slap in the face of the coaching staff, in my opinion. Porter was also suspended for a game in 2009. Tony Sparano didn't say anything other than it was a "coach's decision." Media reports indicated over the next few weeks that Porter was sent home from practice because he reportedly needed to rest an injury - only to be seen out that night socializing.
Summary - I think what it comes down to, if you want to sign Joey, is if you think his mouth and the potential drama is worth the on-field production he'll give you. At 33 years of age, I'm not so sure it is. He's a liability against the run and, though he can still get to the quarterback at times, he's far from a consistent pass rusher anymore. With that said, he's an easy guy to like when he's on your team - as long as Joey doesn't become the distraction that he sometimes becomes.
While it does worry me that the weaknesses outweigh the strengths, I do understand where he and other Dolphin fans are coming from. This past season didn't showcase Porter's strengths to the fullest and his character issues became an even bigger concern.
But let's focus on the fact that the Cardinals are in desperate need of a linebacker and someone of Porter's stature could fulfill that need. Let's also remember that he's familiar with coach Whisenhunt and there are several other Steeler-connections on the team. I believe that the Cardinals can sign him to a relatively cheap contract and the change of scenery would help as well. And let's face it, he'd likely assume the role Bertrand Berry left behind as a nickel rusher, so the lack of run-support from Porter wouldn't be a huge deal. Should the Cardinals sign Porter, what would be your reaction? Do you want Porter as a Cardinal or not?
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Seems like a perfect replacement for departing players.
We can hope that Will Davis and Cody Brown will continue to step up as well, but we’ve lost two OLBs: Chike Okeafor and Bert Berry. Joey Porter would help fill that void while Davis and Brown continue to develop.
Get'em
Call me old fashioned, but I like smash mouth football players on my team even if they are 33. Hell, I’ld back getting Seau for depth if he would take league minimum. Dockett, A-Dub, and Porter together means some serious hits to fire up the rookies and new additions. I like it.
that would be a fun game
to watch against the 49ers this upcoming season should this signing happen. All of the trash talkers on the field on both sides of the ball. Maybe they cold sign Larry Foote as well to a 1 or 2 year deal until Cody Brown and Will Davis emerge as starters
Badgers! Badgers! We don't need no stinkin badgers!
I think this deal is all but sealed.
Porter wants to play here or in Cali. He was flying back and forth from Miami on his day off to visit his family in Bakersfield. The only other team I’ve heard has interest so far is Buffalo.
I would like to see Porter come to the Cards – I think he will still provide some pass rushing and would give the Cards time to develop some LB. Also, playing behind Docket and Calais would provide some match up problems and will help someone (if not Porter) get to the QB.
Also I think he will really want to stick it to everyone who doubted him and might have a really good season. I agree about him disappearing at times in games, but I think he has the ability to provide some game changing plays (like Dansby was able to) that will only give the AZ offense more chances to put up some points.
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
i think we should sign both porter and foote if we can
they’re not long term solutions, but we don’t need long term solutions. this team builds through the draft and we need players to be a one or two year stop gap at linebacker until will davis, cody brown, and our draft picks this year emerge as legitimate starters
+1, my sentiments
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
NO WAY!!
OK, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING WITH YOUTH AND A REBUILD 2 TO 3 YR PLAN; HOW THE HECK DOES JOEY PORTER FIT IN THAT? HEY COACH- ‘W’, THE OLD EX STEELER PLAYERS ARE NOT REALLY PANNING OUT, LOSE THE ‘CRUTCH’ AND QUIT BRINGING THOSE ‘HAS BEENS’ TO MY BIRDGANG! PORTER, DON’T SIGN HERE WE’RE NOT A RETIREMENT HOME FOR THE NFL ANYMORE. YOU WOULD HAVE SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL, WITH DANSBY LEAVING, AND WE BOTH KNOW THAT GUY IS NOT YOU!
~aRiEs~
LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
I'd pick him up for a year or two.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
NO WAY!!
OK, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING WITH YOUTH AND A REBUILD 2 TO 3 YR PLAN; HOW THE HECK DOES JOEY PORTER FIT IN THAT? HEY COACH- ‘W’, THE OLD EX STEELER PLAYERS ARE NOT REALLY PANNING OUT, LOSE THE ‘CRUTCH’ AND QUIT BRINGING THOSE ‘HAS BEENS’ TO MY BIRDGANG! PORTER, DON’T SIGN HERE WE’RE NOT A RETIREMENT HOME FOR THE NFL ANYMORE. YOU WOULD HAVE SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL, WITH DANSBY LEAVING, AND WE BOTH KNOW THAT GUY IS NOT YOU!
~aRiEs~
Joey Porter fits
because he can teach and mentor (only on the field technique not attitude hopefully) those young OLB’s that are so very crucial to a 3-4 defense that are in that 2 to 3 yr rebuilding plan. Porter has had a much more successful career than Dansby (who never even made it to a pro bowl or had the stats to merit much consideration for one) he just happens to be on the decline right now but is still a feared pass rusher.
In Whiz We Trust (Or Coach ‘W’)
GO CARDINALS!!!
by cardsfanforlife24 on Mar 8, 2010 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
Bring him in!
Does anyone else remember when for about a two game stretch people respected our defense? We whipped the unstoppable vikings and people finally thought the cards had a nasty streak? Welcome back nasty streak. Lets get some guys in here that want to bust heads a little! Darnell is there and Calais is a steal so far and untill the young guys are ready to truly take over we need some butt kickers. Fact is we got out badassed by San Fran last year and that has to change.
You're right
San Fran def out-muscled us in our two meetings. Porter brings some toughness to the defense. I always thought Dansby was more of a finesse linebacker anyway.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Def thought he was a finese LB as well.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
For everyone speculative about the ex-steeler signings
Name alternate players available in this year’s current (thin) free agent market who are better at the position, have more proven experience, and have deep ties to the organization personnel regardless of what team they established that through.
Larry Foote = Best ILB available in FA currently
Joey Porter = Best OLB available in FA currently
You can’t argue that no matter what team they go to, let’s just be fortunate our FO is filling holes and planning for next year.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Mar 8, 2010 12:41 PM MST reply actions
Agree
I don’t think the Cardinals are considering them entirely because they are ex Steelers, just that the market is already so thin.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Whomever coined the phrase "steelers west" should get smacked.
That’s all I’m saying.
i see porter having the same influence as bertrand berry did
the first couple of seasons were great. lots of sacks and really was a fierce rusher. then he got hurt and just couldnt get really healthy again. he still produced, but still wasn’t an every-down rusher. he basically is a great stop-gap who will produce and also teach the youngin’s a thing or two about being bad-a.
he will be fine…Whiz knows how to put him in his place…pluss I think his role will be clearly defined if they pick him up…Look for Stevie Baggs to really step up guys…
The Fact Is...
what else is there? We HAVE to sign at least one LB through Free Agency. Okay, technically we don’t have to, but the other alternative is to hope we draft someone ready to play. I’d really rather not rely on that happening. There isn’t a buffet line of linebackers for us to walk down and put on our plate, we have to choose from the best available. The fact is that Porter is now the best available and Foote is the next best. I want them both. I still expect us to draft 1-2 LB’s in this draft but we’ll need a year or two to groom them.
Dansby had games where he all but disappeared as well. Porter will be hyped up here in the desert to prove he still has game after what went down in Miami. I want him on my team when he does that.
I expect Haggans to be relegated to a back-up role very very quickly
If he isn’t, we’re all going to be disappointed by the young guys. Porter and Haggans are all right but I see Porter playing short 3rd-downs only and Haggans playing… I dunno, whatever he played last year (1st and 2nd?) except less. I want to see Brown starting on one side or the other asap.
Brown has a lot of expectations already
Hope he can handle them
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
Revenge of the Birds
Well, a second-round pick is supposed to be ready and able to contribute right away
I think we all missed him by the end of ’09.


















