Final Question Before The Draft: Nose Tackle Or Inside Linebacker?
by Andrew602 on Apr 22, 2010 11:04 AM MDT
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PrintHappy Draft Day everyone!!! Okay that was awkward. But really, doesn't the first day of the draft feel like some NFL holiday? Everyone is pumped up for some NFL action, even if it is hours upon hours of picks. Nevertheless, it couldn't have taken long enough to finally get here.
In a few hours the Cardinals will be making their first round draft pick and I for one, have no clue who it will be. Last year we all expected Beanie Wells to be the man, with the possibility of another running back if Wells wasn't there. This year, things aren't so clear. The Cardinals need help on defense at more then one position. So to get the day started right, I wanted to kick it off with a good poll/conversation. Clearly, the Cardinals need a dominant nose tackle to successfully run the 3-4 defense, and after losing Karlos Danbsy, inside linebacker is a glaring hole in the middle.
A case for nose tackle
The Cardinals lost two-year starter Bryan Robinson in free agency and currently have Gabe Watson signed to the roster. Watson himself is coming off a knee injury and has been rehabbing the same knee for the last two seasons. The 3-4 defense requires a very good nose tackle in order for it to work correctly, otherwise the entire defense will struggle.
A case for inside linebacker
Karlos Dansby bolted for free agency once it began, and since then, the Cardinals have not been able to find his replacement. Defensive coordinator Bill Davis hinted that an inside linebacker would be taken early to learn behind Paris Lenon. The Cardinals are already very thin on the inside and don't have a guy that can rush the passer or drop in coverage.
In a few hours when the Cardinals are on the clock at pick 26, who will they take? Personally I'm leaning towards defensive tackle since we all know that Rolando McClain and Sean Weatherspoon will be long gone by the end of the first round. Also throw in the fact that the Cardinals need an outside linebacker to blitz the passer and your head will start spinning. Let the fun begin.
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I'd be shocked if the Cardinals drafted Gresham
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Everyone seems to think we'll either grab him or Demaryius Thomas in the first round.
Really doesn’t make sense to me to use a 1st round on either position. I could see one of our 3rd or 4th being used on one of those positions but nothing earlier than that.
It always surprises me
Damn NFL Network doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Dez Bryant? Good god.
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You should see the people doing the mocks over at "Mocking the Draft"
A good amount of them were taking all three we just mentioned with the 1st pick. Most of their logic was “Matt needs as much help as he can get”. The only help he might need is a new RT but other than that, he should be fine weapon wise.
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I saw a lot of OT in the first or guys like Jerry Hughes as well. A handful had a NT but only recently.
+1
Me too
They are who we thought they were!
by Jesse Reynolds on Apr 22, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I think it depends on the value that is available.
If Dan Williams is there along with Weatherspoon, I go with Williams. If Weatherspoon is there along with Cody, I go with Spoon. If our choice is Hughes and Cody and I can’t trade out of the first round, I go with Cody.
I'm really starting to lean towards Cody in the first hopefully landing Spikes in the 2nd
Even those both may be slight reaches
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I think they are but not by much.
I really like Spikes and think he can be an productive ILB in the NFL. Luckily for the Cards his combine numbers and eye gouging incident has dropped his stock.
Cody’s only problem has been keeping weight off. That should be to big of a deal with us having John Lott.
I wouldn’t mind if this was how our first 2 picks went.
I'm not that concerned with the weight issues
If he can productively play that way then more power to him. He’d be a force at nose tackle for the Cardinals.
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I agree
I would still prefer Williams, but I think Cody would be a nice pickup as well and I think the weight issues won’t be a problem here.
I still think weight is a concern
But maybe not a big one, given the position. Branch is my litmus for worry here, not that I think being a little overweight was what really held him back. If Cody was effective in college playing planetsized, then he should be fine, right?
That's my thinking
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If it went
Weatherspoon / Cody / Spikes or Kindle / Cody / Spikes or something along those lines with a CB in there too I’d be stoked.
I don't see Cody falling to us in the 2nd
If the Cardinals really want him in the first they’ll draft him. But man that would be a good first three picks
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I don't think he falls to #58 either
hence the “or something”. The right 2 LBs, a NT and a CB is what I want out of the first 3 rounds.
I would love a mix of those positions as well
It’s just a matter of who. Like Cody in the first, Spikes in the second, and Sapp in the third. That would be great.
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Not sure Sapp lasts that long.
He’s a guy the Patriots were supposedly high on. They’ve got those 3 picks in the second. Even if they don’t take him it’s a long ways to the back end of the 3rd.
It all depends on who is highest on their board when the time comes.
Take the best guy available that can help the team the most. Don’t reach.
Agree
We can’t reach
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Jimmy Clausen?
My favorite mock draft writer, Scoot Wright, just released his final mock draft. He has Jimmy Clausen falling all the way down to 26, and us taking him. I think its very unlikely he falls that far, but if he’s there, what do you guys think?
I think it would be an excellent value pickup, even if Leinart proves himself as a legitimate NFL starter during training camp and the regular season, Clausen would then provide us great trade value down the road.
a link to the mock draft is here http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php
I don't like it.
The only quarterbacks I like in this draft are Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy. Anyone else I think will fail as an NFL quarterback.
Wow no way do the Cardinals draft a quarterback
I just can’t imagine that happening. Matt and Derek are a part of the team and they will ride or die with them till next year. If neither can take over then the Cardinals will try to find a QB next draft, but not this year.
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I doubt he falls like that however
it would have to make them think. Of course if he falls to 26 with all those teams needing a QB in front of us then that indicates he’s not worth our taking either. We’ve got plenty of need on defense and can always go after a new QB next year if Leinart fails. Picking a first round QB this year is premature. It would be a pile of cash tied up in a back up and a pick that should have gone toward improving the defense.
If a guy like Dez Bryant or CJ Spiller falls that’s another story. Spiller and Wells would be an outright vicious combo. Bryant I would still be inclined to pass on but only because of character issues and my faith in Fitz, Breaston and Doucet.
I still wouldn't take Dez Bryant
With Fitz and Breaston, that’s already very good starting wide receivers. If anything, the Cardinals just need wide reciever depth later in the draft.
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I would rather see NT in the first
I think that’s the biggest need. If we have a good one, we can get by with Hayes + Lenon/Whoever. As mentioned before, we had a pretty good ILB in Dansby and our D wasn’t stellar.
NT is the key piece
I wouldn’t want them to over reach for one though. There is enough depth at LB and CB to not worry too much over those spots. NT will be a much thinner selection to choose from.
True
The highest paid linebacker in the league couldn’t make the Cardinals defense great.
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It's funny how close the poll is
I guess I’m no the only one who isn’t sure.
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Linval Joseph benched 225 lbs 39 times for John Lott at the combine.
That had to put him on the Cardinals radar. He’s creeping into the late first round on mock drafts now. (Per story on Mocking the Draft.) Something else to speculate on.
Can't imagine he'll make it in the first round
And with all the DTs going already in the first round, how many teams besides the Cardinals will be in need of one?
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San Diego comes after us. The Jets too.
Both could go DT/NT. Thing is, if people who are supposedly in the know think he could creep up that high, how likely is he to make it to the end of the 2nd round? Just another guy to keep an eye out for. The 39 reps on the bench is eyepopping. Best of the bunch.
Def an impressive number
Didn’t Igor Olshansky rep that much a few years ago, basically propelling him higher in the draft? Although he didn’t turn out so great. The Jets are getting Jenkins back, who when he’s healthy is a very good DT. San Diego surprisingly has a lot of trust in the guy whos there now, I cant remember his name.
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Did anyone see on NFL network today where voice of Charger radio....
had the Chargers picking Brian Price? Odd, I thought Price couldn’t play the nose in a 3-4? There is no way, NO WAY, the Cards will take Cody with the first pick. On his best day, he is not a #1 pick. I will shut my mouth forever on these boards(which I am sure will make some people happy) if the Cards pick Cody in round one. Also, don’t be surprised if Price is gone by #15. I still don’t understand why he was so overlooked leading up to the draft. I still say Cody drops to at least late 2nd, maybe 3rd.
Awesome getting Williams
Never even considered he would be there. At least Price beat out Cody(ha ha). Not surprised the weaker defenses passed him up. Blt defense will cover for some of his weaknesses. Still think Pouncey(with Pit) will get the better of him.
yep
cody was like the 6th DT taken.
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