The Standoff Between Cardinals' Guard Deuce Lutui And His Tender Offer
For the Arizona Cardinals, the 2010 offseason program has been a success. According to Ken Whisenhunt, "95%" of the roster has shown up and participated in the offseason workouts and this past weekend's rookie mini camp. In all actuality, every member of the Cardinals roster attended but one - offensive guard Deuce Lutui.
When free agency opened up for business back on March 5th, Lutui was extended a one year tender offer for $1.759 million. Since then, he's been a regular no show and he has yet to sign the offer. The Lutui camp has been mouths-shut about the subject, leaving one to ponder the motive behind the absence.
Is he holding off in hopes to trigger a long-term deal from the front office? If so, that seems increasingly unlikely with every passing offseason day. Lutui isn't a household name - those whom often can draw a new contract by not reporting to workouts. Duece has hardly lived up to his second-round draft pick status from 2006, up until this past year. Job security is a must-have in the NFL, but it's not always possible. It's understandable, but the front office also shipped off Anquan Boldin, and haven't resigned Darnell Dockett long term, after both requested new contracts. The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease, and in this case, it gets replaced by a shiny brand new wheel.
Does he want out of Arizona? Getting back to the fact that he isn't a household name suggests that his market value will be low. He's struggled with penalties and bone-head mistakes in the past - how many teams will want to take a chance on him? Right now his best option would be signing the tender with the Cardinals and competing for the starting right guard position.
So far this standoff has only hurt Lutui's stock. It's likely hurt his image to his teammates, coaches, and the fans as well. To add insult to injury, the Cardinals signed pro bowl guard Alan Faneca just last week and Lutui's grasp for a starting position along the offensive line is slowly slipping away. It's imperative that he signs with the team for long-term purposes. Yes, the offensive line is set for 2010, but what happens after Faneca and possibly eight-year veteran Reggie Wells are no longer with the team?
To be clear, Lutui is not holding out. He's not under contract and isn't obligated to attend the "voluntary" offseason programs. Lutui however, is running out of options. After April 15th passed, Lutui became even more restricted and now isn't able to sign with any other teams. After June 15th, the Cardinals can replace the $1.759 million offer with a tender that's as low as one third of the first offer, or they can pull the offer all together, making Lutui a free agent. Lutui might want to think about consulting with someone else, because whoever is giving him advice doesn't appear to have his best interest in mind.
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I'd like him back also
He was probably wanting more than what was initially offered, and since then, its been bad decisions and timing. He doesn’t hold any leverage so he may stay out until he absolutely has to sign. Doesn’t make sense, but maybe for him, its a moral victory. We’ve got good depth now, but I’d like to seem him back also.
I'm sure Carroll will take him in Seatle.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
If he doesn't sign does he count against the roster?
If he doesn’t then the cards won’t let him go
Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
by sc464 on May 3, 2010 8:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He's a RFA right now so no, he doesn't
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Really does not make sense on Lutui's part.
With the uncertainty of the CBA looming in the NFL and the signing the Cards made this offseason on the offensive line, Lutui should know his chances of getting a long-term contract right now is next to none.
If he is just in it for the money, bye bye.
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The Cards have all the leverage
If he doesn’t sign by June 15 then they can adjust the offer so his ass get’s even less. The wise move is to keep him trapped here. The F.O. Aren’t fools, they won’t let him walk without some kind of compensation.
by CardsDefense on May 4, 2010 2:10 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I wish He'd sign already and get to work
The team is better with him on the roster. Whatever he’s doing seems likely to fail.
by CardsDefense on May 4, 2010 2:15 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
just
another reason not to like SoCal…let’s make it clear that USC is the Univ of South Carolina. we may not win – or even be very good at all -but we were USC before there were people tryin to get smart out in LaLa land! :). GO COCKS!
get to camp, big fella!
by SCCards on May 4, 2010 7:27 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Pete Carroll
Does anyone here really believe he left Socal to prove he could do it at the next level? I mean there wasnt any issue of the trojans getting paid to play there by boosters or anything….Give duece the minimum and then once he signs trade him away for a fifth…I read somewhere I believe it was Sando’s blog…Our team is almost all Whiz and Co., with the exception of a few
Overlooking one thing
Deuce was far and away our best linemen last year. He had struggled with the penalties and mistakes the previous years but grew by leaps and bounds last season. He also, if my research is correct, was the lowest paid starting guard last season. He certainly has very little leverage and the timing is HORRIBLE for him because of the CBA but I for one would love to have him here long term. I know that Deuce is dissapointed in seeing his name tossed around as greedy and lazy but we as fans need to realize that these players bodies are their leverage. Both sides are dealing with the business aspect of the league right now and hoepfully this, along with the CBA, gets resolved quickly as a guard combo of Deuce and Fanaca is very formidable for our upgraded running attack.
Agree
I had Deuce as one of the most improved players in 2009. And this is bad timing.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Dockett should be paid before Deuce
Deuce plays well consistently for one season, then everything has to stop for him? Darnell has been ballin hard for years and he now has a team first attitude. Pay Dockett, keep Deuce trapped here until he accepts his tender or let him sit out all year and make nothing. Every player will be affected by the pending lockout, but it’s no different than what all people are dealing with.for the most part any one of us could be laid off at any time.
by CardsDefense on May 4, 2010 10:30 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Different scenarios
Docket is under contract. Deuce is not. Docket got his long term deal which he signed willingly for the security. Is he unerpaid now, most definitely he is. But he signed the bottom line. (I do love his team first attitude he is now portraying and while it may not be the time frame he wants I am positive he’ll get his deal here.) And we all know that you can’t compare the NFL to our day to day lives. It is just completely different. Again, Deuce is a victim of circumstance right now and in my opinion had the CBA been done he’d have a deal in place. I hope we can get this resolved but I fault neither side at this point as both are dealing with the business at hand as best they can.
Agree as well
that he showed tremendous improvement last season, but wouldn’t say he was by far and away our best lineman, both Brown and Sendlein had very solid seasons as well.
I’m waiting to hear that Deuce will be traded any time now. We’re already overbooked at OL, and if he’s not wanting/willing to be here I’m certain the FO will make sure he isn’t. We let Leonard Davis go when his salary became an issue, I’d be surprised if it’s any different for Lutui. He’s good, getting better, but with Faneca on board and Keith and Johnson needing playing time, far from irreplaceable.
Again I see a different scenario
Brown was better than he’d been in previous seasons and I’m a Sendlein fan, buta ny run chart you see shows that run average and yardage came behind Deuce. (I’m well aware taht this doesn’t tell the whole story of a lineman, just one example)
BIG Leonard was wanting premiere left tackle money when he really was a guard. I’ve heard nothing, either from reports or other, that would insinuate he is asking for too much money. It again boils down to the timing of the CBA and teams not willing to do contracts for RFA’s until a new CBA is done. I’m sure the FO and coaches are frustrated but not understanding to Deuce’s position as well.
Fair enough
But once the March deadline passed for a new CBA it should be clear to him and his agent that he’s a RFA, and once April 15th passed he was out of luck in getting any other offers. Waiting around now, as noted in the last paragraph of Andrew’s article, only makes it more likely that he’ll lose (significantly) in salary over what was already tendered. I can’t see us not putting another offer on the table and letting him become a free agent. If he’s not wanting a one year increase from $338K to $1.7 million, it makes me wonder what he’s hoping for.
Considering there has been no talk of a pending resolution to the CBA, I don’t think that is something he and his agent should be considering at this point but hopefully I’m wrong about that. I’d much rather hear that this gets resolved by Lutui signing a new deal as opposed to being traded for a back-up CB or future draft picks.
Completely agree
At this point he has no leverage whatsoever I and I think he should sign the tender. I don’t see the Cards releasing him as it benefits them nothing. Hopefully, for everything NFL, the CBA gets done and will no longer be an issue but for now I think Deuce is fighting a losing battle. I just understand the reason for his fight.
+1
It is a business, hopefully he makes the right business decisions for him and his family. He’s a great guy, after getting autographs at their training camp a couple of summers ago my oldest son said Lutui was the nicest player he spoke to.
Maybe they know something about the CBA most don’t (fingers crossed).
He always seemed nice
That’s the problem with these situations. It gives a perceived greedy look that fans don’t particularly like. Hopefully his image isn’t too tarnished among most fans.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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As long as he's suited up come september I won't have any hard feelings
If he’s starting at right guard and playing at a high level then more power to him. I just don’t want him ruining my dream O-line for the 2010 season. L. Brown (LT) A. Faneca (LG) L. Sendlein © D. Lutui (RG) an B. Keith (RT)
If we have this O-line and avoid injuries Beanie is going to the pro bowl and Leinart should have a solid year.
by CardsDefense on May 4, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even though their situations aren't exactly the same
I hope Lutui can take a leaf out of Dockett’s book. Sign the offer, play your ass off in 2010 and when it comes time for a contract extension he will be rewarded. If he continues to improve upon what he did in 2009 he could very well become the highest paid lineman on the team.
No the situation is not ideal, job security is huge in the NFL (or anywhere for that matter) since they can go down at any moment with an injury. However as mentioned above, he doesn’t have many options. Take the “measly” $1.75 million and contribute to the team Duece. Come on buddy we need ya.
GO CARDINALS!!!
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 4, 2010 12:53 PM MDT reply actions
Never thought I'd hear someone taking a page out of Dockett's book
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Hahahaha!
Very true. He actually impressed the heck outta me the other day in an interview he did. (Lost me a bit with his odd infatuation with Oprah though). He really has grown and is ready to take on the leadership role that a player of his stature should want.
The man just likes to have fun.
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