2010 Depth Chart
by fansincejakenrob on May 4, 2010 10:40 PM MDT
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PrintWell boys, I do believe this is the best time to take a look at our depth.
Drafts over, most big FA moves are over and done with.
And several offseason workouts are among us.
I thought I'd take a look at our roster and what how I think our depth chart holds out.
OFFENSE
QB
Starter - Matt Leinart
Backup - Derek Anderson
Willie Beamen - John Skelton
Sorry to say it, to well, 20-25% of you, Leinart will be the starter all year. Perform anywhere from decent to a league top ten QB for the season. He'll have a great game, and he'll have a downright horrible game, but a good season, but never will a benching be called for. DA will back up all year, and Skelton will get real acquanted with the NFL's bench.
RB
Starters - Beanie Wells & Timmy Hightower
Backups - Jason Wright
LSH
I believe wear and tear, share carries for another year, except beanie gets about 65% of the load, and finishes between 1300-1900 yards.
FB
Starter - Nehemiah Broughton
He will do as well as any no name FB does in the league, which is a decent job.
WR
Starters - Larry Fitzgerald
Slot - Early Doucet
Reserves - Andrea Roberts
Fitzgerald has another quiet Fitzgerald year. Boobie has a nice year as a backup but no where near the presence of Q. and Early gets his receptions here and there, as does Roberts.
TE
Starter- Ben Patrick
Reserves- Anthony Becht
Ben Patrick catches 40+ passes. Becht plays a good backup TE. Byrd goes active and inactive all year. Dray never sees the field.
LT- starter Levi Brown
RT- starter Brandon Keith
Reserves- Herman Johnson
Everybody blocks, no one gets benched
LG- starter Alan Faneca
RG- starter Rex Hadnot
Reserves- Reggie Wells
Duece Lutui
Herman Johnson
Everybody blocks, no one gets benched.
C - Lyle Sendelien
Reserve - Ben Claxton
Again another, mediocre, year for Sendelien.
DEFENSE
LE - starter Calais Campbell
RE - starter Darnell Dockett
Reserves - Kenny Iwebema
Same performance as last year, #93 gets a tad better.
DT - starter Dan Williams
Reserve - Bryan Robinson
Dan Williams doesn't buy the whole rookies wait 1-2 years, and is the opening day starter. Bryan plays a good vet backup.
LOLB - starter Joey Porter
ROLB - starter Clark Haggans
Reserves - Cody Brown
Schofield
I see nothing but average play out of all these guys.
MLB - starters Paris Lenon
Reserves - Ali Highsmith
Lenon is a huge dropoff from Karlos, and we see it all year. Hayes plays like Hayes does, he's solid all year, pending the back.
CB - starters DRC
Reserves - Michael Adams
DRC is again magnificent, knee injury? whats that? Toler isn't great but shows flashes of football intelligence.
S - starters Adrian Wilson
Reserves - Matt Ware
A-dub, is well, A-dub. Rhodes will not be as good as Rolle, but thats just because we don't see game changing plays like Rolle provided, instead he plays a good safety for the year, and misses a few crucial tackles, but remains starter all year.
Hey guys, I'm no coach or football guru. But I love my cardinals, this is my "bold" predictions for the year. I'd love to see where you agree and disagree with me.
To finish it off, I believe we finish 9-7 tied for first place with, dun dun dun, Seattle.
But we win the division because we have the division record. 9ers, go 7-9.
And the Rams go 3-13.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Revenge of the Birds' (ROTB) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of ROTB's editors.
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toler has a bad ass year the outside LB get a combined 18 sacks dockett gets 8 campbell gets 9
The Devil Birds just got cha
by DaCards on May 5, 2010 1:16 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I see SF being better than you I think SF wins 10 games – Cards 7 wins – sorry no playoffs. To much of a drop off with the loss of Warner – Dansby – Rolle – Boldin – Those are some big time players – playmakers and leadership.
are you a niners fan?
because the loss of rolle and boldin, have already been sufficiently addressed if you ask me.
we did lose warner and the season really lies on what matt does.
and dansby was good, really good. but not irreplacebly good, imo.
by fansincejakenrob on May 5, 2010 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Let's be real here. The leader of the defense is Adrian Wilson
Fitzgerald is the leader on offense. I don’t see a loss of leadership. Playmakers? Yes. But for every big play Rolle had, he gave up one to the offense. Rhodes will provide more consistent coverage. Losing Q hurt but the Cardinals do have Fitz still. Overall I think the Cardinals addressed their losses well and they do have the most playoff experience out of the four NFC West teams.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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A-Dub is probably the leader of the entire team.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
Our record without Boldin is outstanding
not worried about the loss of Q at all to be honest, but that’s just me.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 5, 2010 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions
also in games q missed we have a winning record including the playoff game
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by DaCards on May 5, 2010 10:21 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you guys delusional? Two highly respected teams made Rolle and Dansby the highest paid players at there respective positions in the entire NFL. And you think their positions have been adequately addressed by Rhodes who we got for a 5th round draft choice and by Paris Lenon 32 year old making $700,000 is going to replace Dansby. And we didn’t lose leadership in Warner and Boldin? Leinhart is going to play at an all pro and future hall of famer Kurt Warner level? Wow you guys are really drinking the kool aide IMHO. However I do hope you are right and that the Cards win 9 or 10 games this year.
by lorenzothedog on May 5, 2010 11:34 PM MDT up reply actions
The Giants were desperate for a Safety, and all they could get was someone who was a bust at Cornerback, and was converted into a decent Safety. I’d say Rhodes is an upgrade over him, and he will probably fir our scheme better than he did in New York last year.
Dansby is a good MLB, but not Highest Paid of all Time good, [Willis, Urlacher, Lewis for example, all more deserving of that than him], and he never really delivered unless it was a contract year.
Yes we lost leadership in Boldin and Warner, but Boldin is starting to get up there in age and he has been banged up a lot, he also wasn’t going to resign with the team.
No, we do not see Leinart playing as well as Warner did, this is going to be a different team with a more balanced offense, and Whiz has been getting his types of players since he has been here to mold the team in what he believes will be successful [and a lot of us call Steelers West]. I see Leinart getting around 3500 yards, 20 TDs, 10 Picks, which isn’t close to Warner when he is healthy, but it will still be a decent year.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
Common mistake
People assume Cards fans think Leinart will play like Warner, yet if you read any posts almost everyone concurs that Leinart is no Warner and that we will be a bit more run orientated this year because of this. No one is expecting him to go to the pro bowl next year, we are all just hoping he has that kind of season. But as Joe pointed out most of us agree that a mediocre/decent season is what is expected (at least by the non Leinart fans like myself. Others have more hope, some have even less).
Did we replace what we lost? Not really, but did we take that big of a dip? Not really either. Dansby was good, but he wasn’t P. Willis. Rolle was okay, but he wasn’t Ed Reeve. So, why pay those guys that kind of money when we have other guys on the team that are the best at what they do, like Dockett and Fitz? Sure, there might not be a CBA next year, but there also might be one. A team has to plan for the future and that’s what the Cards did.
Also, we have addressed our pass rush which should help our secondary out a lot.
They are who we thought they were!
by Jesse Reynolds on May 6, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow lorenzothedog
this seemed out of nowhere. Who’s comments are you even addressing?
Your first point – If you follow the NFL you know that highest paid does NOT translate to best at their position. Highest paid usually indicates a team desperate to address a particular position and a player that thinks he’s worth more than he actually is. Haynesworth for example. Rolle AND Dansby.
Second point – Our safety position has been more then “adequately addressed” by acquiring Rhodes. Who cares what we got him for? The Lakers got Pau Gasol for jack shit and he’s proven to be one of the best at his position in the NBA. Same with the Patriots trading only a 4th round pick for Moss, are you saying Randy Moss is not a good player because of that?
Third point – Warner was the heart and soul of this team, yes we know. You’re a genius for pointing out that his loss hurts congrats. Boldin was not a vocal leader that has been Fitzgerald the past couple years.
Fourth point – No one said Leinart is going to play at an “all pro and future hall of famer Kurt Warner level”. Where the hell did that come from?
Wow you’re really drinking the Cardinal hater-aide IMHO. However I do agree with you and hope that the Cards win at least 9 or 10 games this year.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 6, 2010 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Miami is highly respected?
Not if you read the news. There’s been nothing but negative stories about how Miami is operating.
I think the only person who is delusional is the one that thinks Dansby and Rolle deserved their rediculous contracts
Highest paid does not equal very good. I’ll honestly take Rhodes over Rolle and I don’t see a big dropoff. Yes Dansby was good but he’s no Patrick Willis and Paris Lenon isn’t the man to replace Dansby, that will be Daryl Washington. Yes he’s a rookie and he may not start right away but he could be a much cheaper equally productive option. Leinart will probably never be Warner but he can be productive enough to lead the Cardinals at quarterback. Boldin was a leader, but how can you forget Larry Fitzgerald?
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Agree with most of the depth chart.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
You left Gabe Watson off the chart.
Robinson is not staying around long. Watson will still be on the team.
oh yeah
but watson’s never been an eye catcher on the field. I believe robinson is better, even though he is likely in his last year as a pro. and thats saying something, considering watson in only his ?3rd? year
by fansincejakenrob on May 5, 2010 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions
He's entering his fifth year
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Rhodes will do better at safety then Rolle
reports are that Rhodes and Wilson already mesh very well. Everyone seems quick to forget that Rolle missed many crucial tackles and was a soft hitter for a safety. You’re right, the big plays will not be there, but I’ll take solid, reliable, consistent play from a safety instead of 3-4 possible game-changing plays a year from an inconsistent, overrated, obvious conversion corner safety.
My bold statement: Rolle was not that good at safety. Hell of an athlete? Yes, that’s why he made stuff happen when he had the ball in his hands, but not a good safety.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 5, 2010 12:29 PM MDT reply actions
i think
what they bring to the position, presence wise, is exactly the same.
but its comparing apples to oranges. like you said.
rolle has his game changing plays which were great, and rhodes is just a solid good safety, but not an elite safety.
by fansincejakenrob on May 5, 2010 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
True
solid but not elite. I’m just hoping Wilson will bring out the best in him and between the two of them drastically improve our pass defense.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 5, 2010 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Did I miss the five touchdowns Rolle scored off interceptions last year?
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Maybe so
but even as you stated above Andrew for every big play he made on D he gave up to the opposing offense later. 5 INT’s returned for a touchdown in a season doesn’t win the division. Consistent play does.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 5, 2010 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions
We wouldn't be talking about Dansby
and his TD return during the Packers game if Rodgers hadn’t overthrown Donald Driver running down the middle after he broke Rolle’s ankles on a double move.
They are who we thought they were!
by Jesse Reynolds on May 5, 2010 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions
or if dansby and rolle
apparently the BEST PLAYERS on our D.
didnt give up 50 pts that game.
by fansincejakenrob on May 5, 2010 3:50 PM MDT up reply actions
in 68 games, rolle has 12 picks. in 80 games, rhodes has 15 ints. Seems about the same to me. except rhodes is a bigger, better tackler, and a better blitzer. he might not be as dangerous with the ball in his hands, but he is an upgrade at the position and for a much better value.
by fitzfan04 on May 6, 2010 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
remincising on the good
remember the 2 1/2 pics against the bengals.
that was so awesome that day. Made it look like moving rolle to safety was a good decsion, lol.
by fansincejakenrob on May 6, 2010 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB4uezTHQ6o
Not counting the score that a Penalty we got after the interception was thrown took it away.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
And I’ll be worried if Lenon starts all year, I expect Washington to take over no later than halfway through the season.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 5, 2010 12:30 PM MDT reply actions
hope thats true.
hopefully the best player starts and he’s not shelled just because he’s a rookie.
by fansincejakenrob on May 5, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
again i agree. I think Whiz’s policy of not starting rookies is admirable and overall a great way to operate but if the kid blows it up in the preseason and first half of the season, I hope he doesn’t hold him back just because of his rookie label. Let the best player start regardless of experience, salary, or media attention. Let’s just win some damn football games.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 5, 2010 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
agree
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Joey Porter is not an average player.
He’s a massive upgrade on what we’ve had recently. His addition means we will mean a dramatically improved pass rush, and as a result a better defense across the board. Rolle and Rhoades are a wash. Dansby will be missed, but our improved pass rush should more than compensate for his loss.
I hope Porter gives us that kind of year.
I’m not totally convinced for some reason.
But he is an upgrade of okeafor. thats true
by fansincejakenrob on May 5, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Lott has reportedly worked Porter in shape and shed some weight
I see him being even faster on the field.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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I’ll say this. Terrell Owens is also in fantastic shape, and was once one of the best if not the best at his position, and now can’t find a job, and has been giving the same performance for 3-4 years.
Porter, who i guess is getting into good shape, is about 4 yrs younger than Owens and going towards the end of his career. He too could have already lost that zest that he once used to possess and will hang and be average for a couple years.
Its true for any position player to lose a lot of that pizazz, after 30. Only Qb’s have really shown the ability to play at a high level after 30.
by fansincejakenrob on May 5, 2010 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Porter's going to bring it.
I’m not putting much stock into the opinions of Dolphin fans. There’s a lot of noise coming out about the way that organization is treating it’s people poorly. I see porter coming out of a negative environment into a positive one where he will thrive. Remember that he had more sacks in limited play last season than anyone with the Cardinals.
The concern over his age is understandable. Owens has issues above and beyond his age and decreasing abilities which will keep teams away from him. It looks like the Cardinals have stacked the deck at OLB. Hopefully a couple of those guys really shine and Porter won’t be someone we’re relying on for anything more than a season or two anyway.
+1
If Porter generates more then 6 sacks on the season he was worth it. Last year our OLB’s didn’t contribute much at all, so any improvement over last year is worth it.
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by Jesse Reynolds on May 5, 2010 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I want our TE in the pro bowl
It’s highly unlikely i know, but i want to see superior play out of Ben and Anthony. Whats better for an unsettle QB then solid play from the tight end position? I want to see one of them beat out Gonzo and Witten for a blue jersey at the end of the year.
I'd like to see more out of Ben Patrick too.
I’m not holding my breath for a pro bowl though. Those other guys will beat him on name recognition alone, regardless of his performance.
AGREED!
I can say I only know two football fans where I’m from that can even name our TEs. I think if Ben gets out to a monster start, coaches will notice him and maybe even start slightly game planning him. Its a stretch of course but that will for sure open up some of our other weapons coches are already keying on.
Dude, you, can, lay, off, the, commas!
Sendlein is anything but mediocre my friend. He’s as solid as any starter in the league and has great feet.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
He jacked up a bunch of snaps in the 08 season.
That has been my gripe with him. He did considerably better in 09.
True
didn’t see him step on Warner at all to be honest I think that happened a few times in 08 if I recall. But for an undrafted player he’s doing better than expected IMO.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 6, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Warner somehow managed to get those plays off
If I remember right, one of them was in the Super Bowl when Warner threw the TD to Ben Patrick
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Yep I believe you're right
just more evidence to support how awesome Warner truly was.
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 7, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Wells got 56% of the carries last year
60-65 isn’t much of a jump. I do think there will be more carries to go around, however, he shouldn’t have more than 250 (176 last year). That’s 1125 yards at 4.5ypc. I see him getting 1100-1300. There’s a huge difference between 1300 and 1900.
5 TE’s??? We weren’t even able to carry 4 last year.
Curious
Who will survive the cuts. Go with the veteran or the fresh rookie?
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by Jesse Reynolds on May 6, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
3 TE's
Ben, Spach and Becht.
Spach and Byrd go inactive most of the season.If not all season.
I just tried to incldue all the player we currently have.
by fansincejakenrob on May 6, 2010 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Fair enough
With Morey out of the picture, it will make sense to stick with either a 4th TE or a 2nd FB all year. Good blocking on special teams, and no real dip in speed, haha. Just not sure who it will be, like Jesse said. Patrick is the only lock at the position, in my mind. Becht was pretty good for us last year, but he’s older and they only re-signed him for a year so you have to wonder. Spach is going to have to step it up or he’ll be the odd man out, I think (but I thought that for a good half of last year, as well). Byrd might actually make it because of what he offers in the passing game — none of the other TE’s can do what he can.
Becht is a Whisenhunt guy(Good blocker)
And I’d prefer he remain with the team if we run the ball more.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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this was on a pass first team
i think this year, we will be a beanie first team.
expecting realisticly, between 1300-1600 yards from him. And at least 250 carries.
so im expectin over 5 yards a carry from beanie.
by fansincejakenrob on May 6, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Over 5 yards per carry over a season is crazy. I would love it. Just don't expect it.
by hadrarius on May 6, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
I’d be happy with at least a 4.3 ypc average
by cardsfanforlife24 on May 6, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions
with beanie seeing a lot more carries
I think we should see at least 20 carries, over 25 yards.
Thats 500 yds right there.
by fansincejakenrob on May 6, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
They have to keep him under or around 250 to keep him from getting broken down.
Chris Johnson had around 400 touches counting all the catches he got, and I wouldn’t be surprised if his production took a huge cut because of it.
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
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