Madden 11 Player Ratings Leaked: Six Cardinals Make The Cut

by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 11:23 AM MDT in General Arizona Cardinals News

I know, I know ... I'm late breaking the Madden 11 player ratings news, but nonetheless, I did. The ratings were leaked out yesterday for each of the top players, eight at each position. As you can expect, only six Cardinals made the cut. I know they haven't been the most dominant team, but they've won the division in back to back years and lost to the Super Bowl champs in each playoff appearance. For the division, the Cardinals held the lead with six players, the 49ers had five, the Rams had three, and the Seahawks had none.

The complete table that I worked vigorously on is after the jump. So are some of my thoughts on the ratings.

For the top half of the table:

Six players with the highest rating (99) is much more then what we've seen in years past. I don't mind it. There are elite players in the league. I'm just wondering why Larry Fitzgerald didn't make it, especially since he was a 99 last year and hasn't changed at all in that span. Maybe they were kissing his butt for him to be on the cover.
For the quarterbacks, there isn't much to argue about here. I do find it interesting that the Cards played four of those QBs last season, and will play four of them this season, as well.
The running backs look good to me, although Peterson seems a bit high since he's fumbled so much in his career/last year. At wide receiver, I guess we know who the Madden Developers think is the best wide out in the game. At least give them the same rating.
From the tight ends through the offensive line, everything looks fair. I was interested to see if Levi would've made the jump since he was a Pro Bowl alternate last year - no luck there. Glad to see Faneca make the list.

Top Players	Rate	Quarterbacks	Rate	Running Backs	Rate	Wide Receivers	Rate
Chris Johnson	99	Drew Brees	99	Chris Johnson	99	Andre Johnson	98
Patrick Willis	99	Peyton Manning	99	Adrian Peterson	98	Larry Fitzgerald	97
Darelle Revis	99	Tom Brady	95	Mourice Jones-Drew	96	Brandon Marshall	96
Jared Allen	99	Aaron Rodgers	94	Steven Jackson	95	Reggie Wayne	96
Drew Brees	99	Phillip Rivers	94	Frank Gore	93	Randy Moss	95
Peyton Manning	99	Brett Favre	92	DeAngelo Williams	92	Roddy White	93
Ryan Clady	98	Tony Romo	90	Ray Rice	90	Steve Smith	92
Adrian Petereson	98	Matt Shaub	89	Michael Turner	90	Desean Jackson	91
Tight Ends	Rate	Full Backs	Rate	Left Tackles	Rate	Left Guards	Rate
Tony Gonzalez	98	Tony Richardson	94	Ryan Clady	98	Steve Hutchinson	97
Jason Witten	97	Lousaka Polite	91	Jake Long	96	Logan Mankins	95
Vernon Davis	96	Leonard Weaver	90	Joe Thomas	95	Ben Grubbs	94
Antonio Gates	96	Le'Ron McLain	90	Michael Roos	95	Kris Dielman	93
Dallas Clark	96	Lawrence Vickers	89	Jordan Gross	95	Carl Nicks	91
Heath Miller	90	Ovie Mughelli	88	D'Brickashaw Ferguson	91	Eric Steinback	91
Cris Cooley	89	Madison Hedgecock	86	Jammal Brown	91	Alan Faneca	91
Kellen Winslow	89	Mike Carney	85	Bryant McKinnie	90	Todd Herremans	89
Centers	Rate	Right Guards	Rate	Right Tackles	Rate	Left Ends	Rate
Nick Mangold	97	Jahri Evans	98	Jonathon Stinchcomb	90	Robert Mathis	95
Andre Gurode	92	Chris Snee	96	David Stewart	89	Justin Tuck	92
Jeff Saturday	92	Leonard Davis	89	Damien Woody	89	Richard Seymour	92
Shaun O'Hara	91	Davin Joseph	88	Jeff Otah	86	Luis Castillo	88
Matt Birk	91	Brandon Moore	88	Jared Gaither	86	Antonio Smith	87
Bryan Kalil	90	Bobbie Williams	88	Vernon Carey	86	Calais Campbell	86
Jason Brown	89	Harvey Dahl	87	Ryan Harris	85	Shaun Ellis	86
Dan Koppen	88	Jake Scott	85	Eric Winston	85	Ray Edwards	85
Right Ends	Rate	Defensive Tackles	Rate	R. Outside Linebacker	Rate	L. Outside Linebacker	Rate
Jared Allen	99	Kevin Williams	97	DeMarcus Ware	97	Lamar Woodley	91
Dwight Freeney	97	Vince Wilfork	95	James Harrison	97	Shaun Phillips	91
Mario Williams	95	Jay Ratliff	94	Elvis Dumervil	93	Daryl Smith	89
Trent Cole	95	Kris Jenkins	94	Lance Briggs	92	Thomas Davis	87
Julius Peppers	95	Shaun Rogers	93	Terrell Suggs	90	Brian Cushing	87
Haloti Ngata	94	Casey Hampton	91	Chad Greenway	88	Julian Peterson	86
Darnell Dockett	94	Abrayo Franklin	90	Keith Rivers	86	Brian Orakpo	85
Will Smith	90	Randy Starks	89	Clay Matthews	86	Rey Maualuga	85
Middle Linebacker	Rate	Cornerbacks	Rate	Free Safeties	Rate	Strong Safeties	Rate
Patrick Willis	99	Darrelle Revis	99	Ed Reed	97	Troy Polamalu	97
Jon Beason	96	Nnmandi Asomugha	98	Antwon Bethea	95	Adrian Wilson	96
Ray Lewis	94	Charles Woodson	97	Darren Sharper	94	Bob Sanders	89
David Harris	91	Champ Bailey	95	Nick Collins	93	Brandon Merriweather	88
Barrett Rudd	91	Asante Samuel	94	Oshiomogho Atogwe	92	LaRon Landry	87
London Fletcher	91	Jonathon Joseph	93	Brian Dawkins	90	Tyvon Branch	86
DeMeco Ryans	90	Leon Hall	92	Tenard Jackson	88	Jim Leonard	85
Jonathon Vilma	90	Cortland Finnegan	92	Kerry Rhodes	88	Bernard Pollard	84
Kickers	Rate	Punters	Rate
Robby Gould	95	Shane Lechler	98
Nate Kaeding	95	Andy Lee	94
Rob Bironas	93	Donnie Jones	94
Ryan Longwell	92	Mike Scifres	93
Stephen Gostkowski	91	Mat McBriar	92
Sebastian Janikowski	90	Dustin Colquitt	91
Jason Hanson	89	Brian Moorman	90
David Akers	89	Sam Koch	86

From the bottom half of the table:

My first and biggest gripe is the fact that Ben Graham didn't make the punters list. Seriously?! No respect or love for the Aussie. I can deal with Lechler and Lee ahead of him, but that's it. First the Pro Bowl, now this - what's next?
My second biggest gripe was that DRC didn't make it in the top eight. Am I the only one surprised by this? I mean, we should never be surprised to see the Cardinals get a lack of respect but DRC needs to be there. I would easily put him ahead of Hall, Samuel, Joseph and Finnegan.
I also noticed that Antonio Smith, yes Antonio Smith, was in the top eight at defensive end. I then noticed that he was rated 1 point higher than Calais Campbell. Another crime in the making. It was pleasing to see CC get some recognition however.
I find it amusing that Antrel Rolle, Karlos Dansby, and Anquan Boldin weren't listed. We should show this to all the critics out there. I also love how Kerry Rhodes made the list ... barely.
It was good to see Dockett and Wilson make the list. If they didn't, there would be hell to pay.

I'll now leave you with the overall team ratings. Of course, the NFC West was ranked the worst. Did you expect anything else?

NFC EAST
Dallas 87
New York Giants 81
Philadelphia 80
Washington 76

NFC NORTH
Minnesota 88
Green Bay 87
Chicago 77
Detroit 68

NFC SOUTH
New Orleans 92
Atlanta 83
Carolina 75
Tampa Bay 69

NFC WEST
Arizona 79
San Francisco 79
Seattle 75
St. Louis 66

AFC EAST
New York Jets 89
New England 86
Miami 78
Buffalo 67

AFC NORTH
Baltimore 90
Cincinnati 86
Pittsburgh 84
Cleveland 70

AFC SOUTH
Indianapolis 91
Houston 78
Tennessee 77
Jacksonville 74

AFC WEST
San Diego 85
Denver 78
Kansas City 71
Oakland 71

Poll

Do you think Madden 11 rated the Cardinals fairly?

Yes, I agree with how the team is perceived.

245 votes

No, some deserving players are underrated or missing completely.

327 votes

No, Madden gave the team way too much credit for winning back to back in a weak division.

123 votes

Who cares? I don't play video games.

35 votes

730 votes | Poll has closed

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Comments

I'm sure more Cardinals will be in the top 10 lists after the first roster updates

Ratings how they should be: Kerry Rhodes 92+
DRC 92 + Levi Brown 88
Beanie Wells: 88+
Tim Hightower 85
Joey Porter 91 +/-
By 1/4 of the way into the season madden is gonna have to boost the ratings of guys like: Will Davis, Brandon Keith, Greg Toler, Dan Williams, Early Doucet, and Matt Leinart. All these guys will get a boost when we are undefeated in mid October. Go Cards!!!

by CardsDefense on Jun 25, 2010 12:26 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs

Agree

We’ll see a lot of changes. On the contrary, guys like Leinart and Lutui could be ranked lower after some updates.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions

Hightower 85 and Beanie Wells 88+? Joey Porter a 91? I’m not seeing those. Beanie Definitely has the potential to be 88+, and could get it after the first updates. Porter should have been a 91 a few years ago.

And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Jun 26, 2010 12:13 AM MDT up reply actions

Porter had 9 sacks

as a situational player this past year and 17.5 sacks in 2008. Being one of the leaders of the NFL for the past 2 years in sacks as an outside linebacker more than gives him a 91 overall rating. His age wouldn’t be considered an ‘issue’ if he went to any team other than the Cardinals.
Beanie Wells I agree with you, ratings should be based on past performance not potential, I think 83-84 would be appropriate for him and 81-82 for Hightower.
One thing I’m sure we both agree with, it’s about time Willis was recognized as the best MLB in the NFL.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Jun 26, 2010 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

He doesn't have much of a game outside of that.

And is very obviously slowing down. I’m really not trying to take credit away from a bunch of guys or anything – I just don’t see a 91 for Porter I guess.

And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions

Here's my point

You don’t rate a guy based on ‘not having much of a game outside of that’. What is Porter brought in to do on every team he’s played for? Get to the passer. He should be rated on what his job is. Should a QB’s rating be lowered because he can’t kick a 40 yard field goal? Should a WR’s ratings be raised because he can occasionally throw a pass on a trick play? These are extreme scenarios but the answer is no. He’s an OLB, he’s supposed to get sacks, he’s one of the best in the league at getting sacks. Done.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Jun 29, 2010 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions

DRC not top 8?

WTF.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly

by Jesse Reynolds on Jun 25, 2010 12:38 PM MDT reply actions

agreed

by cardsfanforlife24 on Jun 26, 2010 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions

How did DRC and Graham not make the list?

I do like that CC is on there and that A-dub is so high.

by ksredbird on Jun 25, 2010 12:39 PM MDT reply actions

Both got robbed

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions

and does anyone believe in the madden curse?

cause I know that when Polamalu got injured I was sweatin bullets and hopin that Larry stayed healthy.

by ksredbird on Jun 25, 2010 12:52 PM MDT reply actions

Not sure what to think

But it does seem to happen a lot, but not everytime like some people seem to speculate.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions

I PLAY MADDEN DAILY

First I completely thought Ben Graham got ripped.

DRC started last season at, 83, and finished at 90, hope to see that kind of progression again.

I hope to see beanie make a jump, but he started last year at 79 and finished at 80, thought that was bogus. Glad to see the lil man MJD getting some respect, hes one of my fav players.

Boldin was a 93-94 all last year, wonder what happened?

Wilson has actually been respected in Madden for about the last 5 years.

Don’t know Leinarts rating, but I remeber in 2009 Warner was like 86 and made the jump to 93 or something.

Either way the guy who rates Madden is lame, they showed him doign his ratings last year and he even looked lame. Last year they game Mario Manningham a 11pt jump after his monday night performance, and then he didnt do crap the rest of the year.

But again I’ma shell out the $65 when it drops, cant wait.

by fansincejakenrob on Jun 25, 2010 1:12 PM MDT reply actions

I'll likely buy the game as well

Something that must happen yearly for me

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions

Same here

And Graham got robbed. I have him at 94 or 95 in my copy of Madden 10. And I did show the ratings guy the numbers that Graham had midway through the season and it got him a big boost.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions

Too many disagreements

to comment on fully, but some of the most blatant omissions, aside from what has already been mentioned, are no Calvin Johnson and Grant Jennings at WR, and no Brent Celek or Owen Daniels at TE. I’m sure there are many others but off the top of my head those are names that should be there as well.

by Long Beach on Jun 25, 2010 2:31 PM MDT reply actions

I would replace Chris Cooley with Owen Daniels. Celek barely misses the cut, I think we'll see him drop off w/o McNabb

Calvin Johnson should easily be ahead of Jackson. Moss was added more for name recognition to me. Anyone else think Shaun Rodgers was rated too high?

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions

As I reread the article

it says no Seahawks. Not to take up for them, but no Lofa Tatupa? I know he was hurt last year but that criteria didn’t keep them from giving Palomalu an unrealistic rating.

To answer your question, neither Rodgers or Hampton should be ahead of Franklin at this stage of their careers. For that matter, if we’re looking at a true 3-4 NT they’ve got Ratliff too high as well. But there are so many disagreements I have by position it would take way too much space to cover. Okay, one more. Schaub and Romo over Palmer?

by Long Beach on Jun 25, 2010 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions

Yeah, Palmer's not exactly lightin' it up

3,094 yards, 60.5% Compl, 21 TDs, 13 Ints… pretty solid, but Romo threw for almost 4500 while Schaub was closer to 5000 than to 4000…

by tw3kr on Jun 25, 2010 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions

I'm not familiar

with the Madden game, or how they came up with their rankings, but if we’re talking who the better QB is, let’s put Romo or Schaub in Cincinnati and see them duplicate their numbers. On the other side of the coin, think of Dallas with Palmer running that offense.

by Long Beach on Jun 25, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions

Palmer would be considered a top 5 QB.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly

by Jesse Reynolds on Jun 25, 2010 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions

Just being in Dallas instead of Cincinnati would help.

Being in Dallas or the NFC East alone is enough to bump your rating up a few points.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions

+1

I don’t think most fully appreciate what it’s like to play in Cincinnati. That organization cultivates losing and Palmer somehow manages to make them competitive most seasons. Once he retires I see regular 3-4 win seasons for them again.

by Long Beach on Jun 25, 2010 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions

Its a shame they cant take advantage of having a good quarterback

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 11:25 PM MDT up reply actions

Celek Did Better w/ Kolb

I only know this because I had Celek on my ff team.

by Emon on Jun 25, 2010 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions

On the grand scale of things, I think the entire Philly offense will drop off.

So we’ll see.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions

I think that DRC is a 90 or a 91.

I saw a video of the players with the highest speed ratings [he has a 98], and I think I saw 90 or 91 for his overall rating. He is only slightly off from being in the top 8.

And from what I’ve heard, Leinart is around the 30th ranked QB. Hopefully he shoots up that list once the season starts, although Leinart wasn’t that bad when I played with him in Madden 10 because of his good short/medium accuracy ratings, although he should be faster and better at throwing on the run than he is in the game.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 3:02 PM MDT reply actions

I do think that Fitz was dropped because his receiving yards were a little bit lower than they were in 2008.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 3:13 PM MDT reply actions

Still seems funny to me. As an athlete, he didn't change. He also caught a career high in TDs

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions

I'm guessing that the Yards are all that matter with Donny.

And like someone else said, DeSean Jackson is too high, and I would also say that Reggie Wayne could go down one or two points.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions

Pastapadre posted some of the QB ratings.

QBs
Drew Brees (NO) – 99
Peyton Manning (IND) – 99
Tom Brady (NE) – 95
Aaron Rodgers (GB) – 94
Philip Rivers (SD) – 94
Brett Favre (MIN) – 92
Tony Romo (DAL) – 90
Matt Schaub (HOU) – 89
Eli Manning (NYG) – 89
Donovan McNabb (WAS) – 89
Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) – 88
Joe Flacco (BAL) – 87
Carson Palmer (CIN) – 87
Matt Ryan (ATL) – 86
Jay Cutler (CHI) – 83
Jason Campbell (OAK) – 83
Mark Sanchez (NYJ) – 82
Kyle Orton (DEN) – 80
Matt Stafford (DET) – 80
Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) – 79

Tavaris Jackson (MIN) – 71
Charlie Whitehurst (SEA) – 71
Brady Quinn (DEN) – 71
Tim Tebow (DEN) – 70
Sage Rosenfels (MIN) – 69

He didn’t check to see what Leinart was, but he is guessing somewhere between 72 and 75 [I’m guessing 74 like he was in the final update for Madden 10].

Stafford and Sanchez are too high based on how well they played last season by the way.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 5:52 PM MDT reply actions

So basically

If Leinart had one of the best D’s in the league, an awesome run game and threw a ridiculous amount of picks he would be rated around 82? Seems logical.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly

by Jesse Reynolds on Jun 25, 2010 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions

I hate this game, but play it all the time

Hate it cause the gameplay is complete crap, AI’s and kinetics are horrible, they’re all pre-predicted by around 1sec to create “smooth gameplay”.

Love it, cause the graphics are always getting better.

Hate it, cause the ratings are horrible. I remember when they added Vick last year, BOOM 2 years out of playing and already better than a handful of quarterbacks including Matt.

Love it, because it’s football and now the only game I can play, because of the “dead horse” that is the NFL rights and EA.

by fansincejakenrob on Jun 25, 2010 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs

With the ratings I give the players in my copy, I think Sanchez is around 76 or 77, and I have Stafford at 75.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions

Think I'd give Stafford the edge

They’re basically a wash, but his yards/game are quite a bit better.

by tw3kr on Jun 25, 2010 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions

I hate that Jason Campbell is rated so high

I also don’t like how Charlie Whitehurst – a quarterback that has never thrown a pass in a regular game – is rated higher then other QBs

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions

Campbell had a better year than Palmer ;)

I kind of agree on Whitehurst, although he might be grouped with the right company. None of those QBs deserve much credit.

Sanchez and Stafford definitely bother me.

by tw3kr on Jun 25, 2010 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions

Whitehurst should be mid 60s at best.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions

Wide Receivers

If they don’t list Anquan Boldin in the top 8 wide receivers, they can’t be taken seriously.

outside looking in

by outside looking in on Jun 25, 2010 8:54 PM MDT reply actions

Well

One might argue that his age, production, and chances for injury lower his ratings. We’ll see how he does in Baltimore.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions

Rolle

Yeah Andrew,

First thing I picked up was the lack of Dansby and Rolle, with Rhodes on the list. Actually, they were the first I looked for. Sorry, couldn’t help myself!

"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."

by pthesz on Jun 25, 2010 10:22 PM MDT reply actions

I think both of them were a couple of spots off.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 25, 2010 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions

Still funny that people think we lost the best linebacker and safety in the league and they aren't even on the list

I know it’s Madden but it’s a decent way to evaluate players.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jun 25, 2010 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions

Funny as it was

I don’t see 8 ILB’s better than Dansby, and while I think he’ll play to his ranking I don’t know how a guy who was a back-up last season gets a ranking that high.

by Long Beach on Jun 25, 2010 11:29 PM MDT up reply actions

Anyone here a little disturbed by lack of Calvin Johnson?

I know this isn’t a Lions blog but I’ve considered Johnson, Fitz and Andre Johnson the top three wide receivers in the league. I’m absolutely stumped right now.

And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Jun 26, 2010 12:14 AM MDT reply actions

If you read through

the comments you’ll notice how impressed I am by the list. Completely agree about leaving him off, there are many notable omissions and players out of order but not including him had to be the worst.

by Long Beach on Jun 26, 2010 12:31 AM MDT up reply actions

I think Calvin is a 90 or a 91.

He should be above DeSean Jackson. But part of it is probably from how injury riddled he was last year, because in Madden your rating goes down if you get hurt [Polamalu].

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 26, 2010 12:51 AM MDT up reply actions

If Polamalu

went down he didn’t go down much, I see he’s still at the top of the list. Again, I don’t pretend to know their criteria but if it’s supposed to be a ranking of the best players in the league they missed terribly on Johnson. Take a poll of CB’s and see where he ranks.

by Long Beach on Jun 26, 2010 12:53 AM MDT up reply actions

99 to a 97.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 26, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions

Again, to the untrained eye

it still sounds like an awfully high grade for a guy who hasn’t had a sack in three seasons despite playing in the Blitzburgh “D” and has been injured for the better part of two of the last three years. Not saying he isn’t still better than most, but history tells us his prime has passed him by.

by Long Beach on Jun 26, 2010 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions

I don't know how he hasn't gotten many sacks considering how he always seems to be in the backfield on a running play.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 26, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions

Pastapadre does have some extended versions of these top players in Madden lists.

Wide Receivers
Andre Johnson (HOU) – 98
Larry Fitzgerald (ARI) – 97
Brandon Marshall (MIA) – 96
Reggie Wayne (IND) – 96
Randy Moss (NE) – 95
Roddy White (ATL) – 93
Steve Smith (CAR) – 92
DeSean Jackson (PHI) – 91
Calvin Johnson (DET) – 91
Wes Welker (NE) – 91
Anquan Boldin (BAL) – 91
Chad Ochocinco (CIN) – 91

Defensive Ends
Jared Allen (MIN) – 99
Dwight Freeney (IND) – 97
Mario Williams (HOU) – 95
Trent Cole (PHI) – 95
Robert Mathis (IND) – 95
Julius Peppers (CHI) -95
Haloti Ngata (BAL) – 95
Darnell Dockett (ARI) – 94
Justin Tuck (NYG) – 92
Richard Seymour (OAK) – 92 [too high]

Defensive Tackles
Kevin Williams (MIN) – 97
Vince Wilfork (NE) – 95
Jay Ratliff (DAL) – 95
Kris Jenkins (NYJ) – 94
Shaun Rogers (CLE) – 93
Casey Hampton (PIT) – 91
Aubrayo Franklin (SF) – 90
Randy Starks (MIA) – 89
Shaun Ellis (NYJ) – 88
Brodrick Bunkley (PHI) – 88
Pat Williams (MIN) – 88

MLB
Patrick Willis (SF) – 99
Jon Beason (CAR) – 96
Ray Lewis (BAL) – 94
David Harris (NYJ) – 91
Barrett Ruud (TB) – 91
London Fletcher (WAS) – 91
DeMeco Ryans (HOU) – 90
Jonathan Vilma (NO) – 90
Karlos Dansby (MIA) – 90
Brian Urlacher (CHI) – 90

OLB
DeMarcus Ware (DAL) – 97
James Harrison (PIT) – 97
Elvis Dumervil (DEN) – 93
Lance Briggs (CHI) – 92
LaMarr Woodley (PIT) – 91
Shaun Phillips (SD) – 91
Terrell Suggs (BAL) – 90
Daryl Smith (JAX) – 89
Chad Greenway (MIN) – 88
Thomas Davis (CAR) – 87
Brian Cushing (HOU) – 87

Tackles
Ryan Clady (DEN) – 98
Jake Long (MIA) – 96
Joe Thomas (CLE) – 95
Michael Roos (TEN) – 95
Jordan Gross (CAR) – 95
D’Brickashaw Ferguson (NYJ) – 91
Jammal Brown (WAS) – 91
Jonathan Stinchcomb (NO) – 90
Bryant McKinnie (MIN) – 90
Marcus McNeill (SD) – 89
David Stewart (TEN) – 89
Michael Oher (BAL) – 89
Matt Light (NE) – 89
Damien Woody (NYJ) – 89

Guards
Jahri Evans (NO) – 98
Steve Hutchinson (MIN) – 97
Chris Snee (NYG) – 96
Logan Mankins (NE) – 95
Ben Grubbs (BAL) – 94
Kris Dielman (SD) – 93
Carl Nicks (NO) – 91
Eric Steinbach (CLE) – 91
Alan Faneca (ARI) – 91
Todd Herremans (PHI) – 89
Leonard Davis (DAL) – 89

Centers
Nick Mangold (NYJ) – 97
Andre Gurode (DAL) – 92
Jeff Saturday (IND) – 92
Shaun O’Hara (NYG) – 91
Matt Birk (BAL) – 91
Ryan Kalil (CAR) – 90
Jason Brown (STL) – 89
Dan Koppen (NE) – 88
Alex Mack (CLE) – 87
Jake Grove (MIA) – 87
Todd McClure (ATL) – 87

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 26, 2010 3:37 PM MDT reply actions

Surprised

David Harris is rated higher than Bart Scott, not because he doesn’t deserve it I think he’s extremely underrated but because Madden usually ranks names of popular players higher by default.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Jun 26, 2010 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions