Some Thoughts And A Timeline On RFA Guard Deuce Lutui
Nothing has changed in the last three months - Deuce Lutui is still not an Arizona Cardinal. We've heard as much as we could hear and for whatever reason, Lutui has not signed his one year tender to return to the team in 2010. Word coming out of Lutui-camp is that he's looking for a long-term contract. That's completely understandable but considering there were more restricted free agents than usual this offseason due to the CBA, the Cardinals couldn't guarantee every player long-term stability. You'd have to believe Lutui is falling out of the pecking order for a new contract, with other players like Darnell Dockett making efforts to workout this offseason.
Since Lutui hasn't signed his tender, he is not obligated to participate in the team's offseason programs. As a result, he's been the only player to miss all of the Cardinals offseason workouts and OTAs. Although there are no consequences, head coach Ken Whisenhunt takes the offseason workouts very seriously. Needs or not, Lutui can't be making a lasting impression with the coaching staff.
The Deuce Lutui Offseason Timeline
March 3rd - The Cardinals extend a 2nd-round tender to Lutui worth $1.759 million.
March 11th - The Cardinals sign free agent offensive guard Rex Hadnot to a three year, $9 million contract - a considerable amount of money for a backup.
April 15th - Lutui loses his right to receive any offers from other teams.
April 27th - The Cardinals sign free agent offensive guard Alan Faneca to a one-year, $2.5 million contract, forcing guard Reggie Wells to slide to the right guard position, formerly Lutui's.
June 1st - The Cardinals resubmit the one year, $1.759 tender to Lutui in hopes to resign him.
June 3rd - Lutui changes agents, going from Max Hannemann to Ken Harris.
June 15th - Lutui will need to sign his offer by this date or the Cardinals can drop the offer to a mere $588,000, a 10% raise from last season.
I'm not sure what to think about the situation. The Cardinals clearly addressed it by signing Hadnot and Faneca, and with Reggie Wells and Herman Johnson, they're perfectly fine at guard even without Lutui. Seeing how Faneca is already 33-years old and only signed to a one-year contract, not signing Lutui could pose problems for the team in 2011.
Most people believe Lutui will sign his tender before the June 15th deadline, but is it really a sure thing? The Cardinals don't want to add insult to injury, so lowering their offer wouldn't seem wise. After resubmitting the tender this month, I don't see the Cardinals withdrawing their offer either. I can very well see the offer staying on the table after the deadline and Deuce remaining out of camp through the preseason if he truly wanted to. The Cardinals aren't inclined to make any actions through that point and the only suffering would be from Lutui's side.
Here's how I look at the situation: Say you lose an item and assume it has been stolen. Although you have no evidence if the item was indeed stolen, you accuse someone based on your judgement of that person. You stand pat by your accusation despite that person's pleas of innocence. Not long after, it is discovered that the item was misplaced by yourself, much to the displeasure of your accuser. If you are stubborn, then you probably won't admit to that person you are wrong.
In this case, Deuce strongly believed he deserved a long-term deal even though the Cardinals were not going to offer one. Now that it's reached this point, it could be possible that Lutui doesn't want to change his original stance despite the fact that he has made zero progress. I'm not saying Deuce is a stubborn person, but this is just how I see the situation. We will, however, find out very soon how everything will pan out in the next couple of weeks.
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Could be....
Seeing as how Whiz and Co. handled Boldin, it changed dockett’s stance in a hurry, maybe duece it trying to hit them at a new angle, but I just dont think duece is anything special enough for big money…johnson will probably in the lineup next year if faneca leaves, and I’m sure we will be drafting an Olineman in next years draft sometime…I for one love it, the big bucks only come when you stand out from the rest at your position. if you dont then the organization gives you a take it or leave it offer.
Agree
The Cardinals could easily find guard depth in the draft next year and roll with Herman Johnson.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Curious to know
what the firing of his agent meant. Was the previous agent pushing for/against him signing his tender? What is the stance of the new agent? Etc.
With that in mind, I wouldn’t recommend that he push the FO on the June 15 deadline. There would be little, if any, incentive for them to leave the original offer on the table. I’m guessing they’re not thrilled that he’s the only player not attending the OTA’s, and in keeping with the Steeler philosophy they will trade or let a player sign elsewhere before they’ll overpay.
I think they like Deuce, and want to work with him after the season on a long-term deal, but he needs to face the reality that he has absolutely no bargaining power right now.
Maybe he was just taking his anger out on the agent?
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Like you said...
3/$3 mil is a lot for a backup guard. Faneca is only here to ease the transition to the heavier running game and to be a coach on the field during the process imo. I honestly think he is only a one year stopgap. Next year’s starters could be Hadnot and Big Herm and the line would probably be just as good, if not better. For the current year our best blindside guard would probably be Wells anyway. He was less than stellar last year, but with some real competition he might just step it up. Deuce better get it together before its Deuces.
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by hevchv on Jun 5, 2010 5:37 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Either way this is the best line we've seen in years
Add Deuce and it’s just icing on the cake.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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He should just hurry up and resign.
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![After his holdout, Deuce is now apparently a smidge heavier than JaMarcus Russell currently weighing in 396 while he is listed at 338.
Think he might wind up being cut before the Preseason games because of this?
[Yes, I did the picture again]](http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/127723/33457c5_jpg_small.png)













