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The Arizona Cardinals are SO Underrated

 

I'm getting tired of reading all of the articles talking about how horrible the Cardinals are going to be this year, and I'm sure everyone else is as well, so I thought I would give everyone something to debate about. We obviously have several NFL stars on our team (Fitz, 9-0, Wilson) and several stars in the making (Campbell, Wells, Breaston), but which name on our team "don't get no respect"? Who do you think is the most underrated or overlooked player on the team? My top five in alphabetical order are...

Steve Breaston

Drafted in the 5th round in 2007, Breaston has become the "Tits" to our "Fitz". The argument is that he can't replace the skills Boldin brought to the team which will in turn cause a big drop off in Larry's numbers.  Breaston has big shoes to fill, but I think he can be better than Boldin. Don't get me wrong, Boldin was a great asset to our team and brought a physical presence to the team that not many players can, but in Boldin's absences with Breaston starting, the Cardinals are 6-2 scoring 33.9 points per game with one of those loses coming to the super bowl champion Saints in the 2009 playoffs. Breaston is taller and faster than Boldin and will cause "fitz" of his own running opposite of Larry and double team he draws. Breaston's rookie year was fairly unremarkable, but in his past two years, he has started in 22 games and hauled in 132 catches for 1,718 yards with 6 TDs, even breaking the 1,000 yard barrier in 2008 as the #3 WR. His kick return and punt return skills have made us one of the more dangerous special teams units in the NFL. In his first two years he amassed 2,058 kick return yards and in his career he has 885 punt return yards and a TD. Steve Breaston is SO underrated.

Ben Graham

Graham has only been with the Cardinals for two years and has only started 20 games, 4 in 2008 and 16 in 2009, but in those 20 games he has helped our team with field position immensely. Graham's average punt in 2009 was 47 yards making his career average 44.4 yards. The most impressive thing about him is the 42 punts he landed inside the 20 last year, which tied him for the NFL record. Out of those 42, 17 of them were inside the 10. While playing for the Cardinals, he has not had a punt blocked.  Another stat that really stood out to me was his punting in our 2008 super bowl run. In four games he had 20 punts, 12 of which landed inside the 20. The Cardinal faithful know all too well about the Pro Bowl snubs and the poor Madden ratings, and we're sick of it. Graham is a big part of why we are defending 2 time NFC West Champs and why we had such a magical 2008 playoff run. Ben Graham is SO underrated.

Gerald Hayes

Hayes was drafted in the 3rd round of the 2003 draft. Hayes didn't have the best of seasons last year due to nagging injuries, but was still able to help the Cardinals defense shut down the run. Through the first seven games of the season, the cardinals faced big named backs such as Gore, Jones-Drew, Addai, Slaton, and Jacobs. Not one of them rushed for more than 80 yards. At one point in the season, the Cardinals had the number one rush defense in the NFL.  One of the highlights of his year was holding Adrian "Purple Jesus" Peterson to a measly 19 yards on 13 carries, with one of those carries going for 11 yards. In 2008, Hayes had arguably the best season of his career. Hayes started 14 regular season and all four playoff games, recording his third straight 100-plus tackle season. He finished with 107 tackles during the regular season and set a career-high with four forced fumbles. Hayes led the Cardinals and tied career-high with 14 tackles, including 11 solos, and one tackle for loss against the Redskins. He earned NFC Defensive Player of the Week honors by recording 12 tackles, one tackle for a loss, a half-sack and two forced fumbles against the Rams. Hayes posted his first career postseason interception in the Cardinal's win over the Panthers in the playoffs and recorded seven tackles in the super bowl. For the Cardinals to be successful this year, Hayes really needs to step up and be a leader, which I think he will do without any problems. Gerald Hayes is SO underrated.

Matt Leinart

This one might be the hardest sell. Leinart was drafted in the first round of the 2006 draft. He was then thrust into the spotlight in week 5 and started the next 11 games until an injury forced him out of the last game. The next season he competed with and won the starting QB job over future hall of famer Kurt Warner. He started the first 5 games of the season, eventually switching in and out with Warner, until he broke his collar bone against St. Louis and has been on the bench ever since, and we all know why; Kurt Warner is the god of football. People judge him based on 16 games as a rookie. Take a look at other rookie QBs and tell me how they did. In these sixteen games, Leinart even managed to accomplish a list of impressive feets. He threw for 200 yards or more in eight of his first 11 starts in 2006; completed 60% or more of his passes in five of his final six starts and in 2006, became the first Cardinals QB since Jake Plummer to have three games in a season with a 100+ QB rating, all of which were in his final six starts of ’06. Leinart's 2,547 yards passing in 2006 also broke Plummer's franchise rookie record of 2,203 yards. He became the first rookie in NFL history to throw for over 400 yards in a game when he passed for 405 in Minnesota. In his most recent sighting, Leinart started for an injured Warner against a red hot titans team in 2009. Leinart found out he was started only hours before the game and had the game won if it weren't for a late drive 90+ yard drive by the Titans to win it on a last second play (where a Titans lineman was very nicely asked not to hold by the ref) in the endzone. The players Leinart had around him then were the same ol' Cardinals. The players Leinart has around him now are super bowl caliber. With several years learning behind Warner the Magnificent, Matt Leinart is SO underrated.

Lyle Sendlein

Sendlein signed as a rookie free agent in 2007 out and has appeared in 28 games with 18 starts in his three seasons while also starting all four postseason games in 2008. In 2009 Sendlein only allowed 2 sacks and only had 3 penalties resulting in 30 yards. For an undersized and undrafted center, Sendlein has outperformed all expectations and has become a dominating force on the line. Warner was sacked 26 times in 2008 and 24 times in 2009, one of the least sacked QBs in the NFL in those two years. Sendlein has a sharp mind, a will to win, and a strong work ethic which is why he has been successful. Lyle Sendlein is SO underrated.

 

Poll
Who do you think is SO underrated?
Steve Breaston
31 votes
Ben Graham
32 votes
Gerald Hayes
20 votes
Matt Leinart
54 votes
Lyle Sendlein
15 votes
Other
11 votes

163 votes | Poll has closed

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Ben Graham

The guy should have been in the Pro Bowl last season, and if you look at the stats he was better than Andy Lee was in 2007 [86 punts compared to 105, both had 42 punts downed inside the 20 yard line, 10 less touchbacks]. The guy is a top 5 Punter in the NFL, and his Madden rating is an 83?

He was shafted, the guy needs some respect.

As for Leinart, in 2006 he played with an awful offensive line, Fitz missing 3 games, Bryant Johnson as the #3 receiver, and he also had around the same amount of yards and touchdowns as all of the big 3 QBs from last years draft. But he also had less Interceptions than all of them [12 compared to 20 for Sanchez and Stafford, and 18 for Freeman], yet all of the media people think that Leinart is garbage, and those three Quarterbacks will be great.

The hell?

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jul 12, 2010 2:11 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree

Graham is such a good player, but gets no recognition for it. I think Leinart has to show something to be considered underrated.

by AlaskanCard on Jul 12, 2010 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Had to go with Graham as well

Since he was snubbed from the Pro Bowl. You don’t accidently punt the ball great in an entire season.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 13, 2010 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly

by Jesse Reynolds on Jul 13, 2010 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Trippin'

Over Andy? Graham is good, but he certainly didn’t out punt Andy Lee in ’09, though it was close.

by mr. instigator on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Trippin Troll from San Fran

Please refer to Lee’s and Graham’s punting numbers above. Homers lie, stats don’t. I know its hard to be objective but you should try. Nothing is more important in a punter’s job description than improving your team’s field position. Graham did that at a better rate than Lee. Case closed.

by Pick1Team on Jul 25, 2010 3:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

I said Graham was better than Lee was in 07, not 09.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jul 25, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

In general

I think our OL is underrated. For a team that has put up the offensive numbers that we have over the past couple of seasons you’d think that our skill players some how suspend themselves in mid-air to make the plays they do behind all the scrubs we have protecting them up front. Not that he wasn’t great at it, but all we ever hear is how well Warner hid them with his ability to get the ball out quickly; we never hear that our unbalanced offense made it very difficult on them to establish themselves at the point-of-attack.

Looking forward to seeing some smashmouth football this season. Speaking of that, if we’re talking underrated players I still think of Tim Hightower. Even I didn’t realize he caught 63 passes last year, and he has improved significantly in each of his first two seasons. If he shows the same improvement this season I don’t think a 1,000 yards is a completely delusional number for him.

by Long Beach on Jul 12, 2010 4:07 PM MDT reply actions  

I thought about putting the entire OL, haha

but I thought Sendlein was a good representation. I also thought about Hightower, but I think everyone’s pretty high on him with how well he does in the red zone than everyone found out he can catch. He probably is still underrated though, he adds a different dimension to our offense.

by AlaskanCard on Jul 12, 2010 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Beanie and Hightower do get some respect from what I've seen.

The only real criticism I have heard about them is the fumbling.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jul 12, 2010 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

When I say underrated

I’m referring to the belief many have that Beanie will get the bulk of the carries this season and relegate Hightower to a third-down specialist type back. I’m not saying that’s a thought being promoted by everyone, but if you look at a lot of the predicted stats for this year the numbers reflect that idea.

I see a two-back system that has a shot at having two 1,000 yard rushers. I’d think that his 70-yard TD against N.O. and Lott’s continuing work on his speed would have quieted some of his critics about him being fast enough to be a #1 back as well.

by Long Beach on Jul 12, 2010 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Right

I think Whiz will keep rotating them a lot too. I don’t want to see Beanie carrying the ball more than 250 times. Keep it close between the two of them.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jul 12, 2010 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

You think that Cardinal fans are underrating Hightower?

I agree. I might be one of them. But how can you not. I feel like we’ve only seen glimpses of what Beanie can do and I think we all want to see him get the ball more. Even Beanie said he wanted the ball more.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 13, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not as much as outside sources

but to a degree, yes, I think he’s underrated even amongst the Cardinal faithful. Not saying I don’t share everyone’s excitement about Beanie, but at the same time I’m not shocked that Hightower is still listed as the “starter” (for what that designation is worth). There’s a lot about his game I like, and he’s improving all the time.

by Long Beach on Jul 13, 2010 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

He's an amazing pass blocker and reciever out of the backfield.

Just not sure if that meshes will with Leinarts style of play.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly

by Jesse Reynolds on Jul 13, 2010 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hightower has been great for us, dont get me wrong

But Beanie will pass him up and be one of the best backs in the NFL.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 13, 2010 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Leinart did pass to Reggie Bush a lot when he was at USC

Hightower could be used in the same way.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jul 13, 2010 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Loved watching Hightower’s pass blocking though. Guy is a monster at it. Easily one of the best in the NFL. Now that aspect of his game is underrated.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Jul 14, 2010 12:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hightower's skill set meshes just fine with Leinart's...

I bet you’re the first and last person to think and/or write that.

by Pick1Team on Jul 25, 2010 3:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ummm

Can I go “All the above?”
I didn’t know about Leinarts passer ratings at the end of the season. Shows his improvement as he played.
God I hope he dominates…

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly

by Jesse Reynolds on Jul 12, 2010 5:39 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Whiz Conspiricy Theory

I think Whiz has a hand in the no respect thing. He must have big media (and government as well, of course) connections in which he can manipulate the public’s impressions of the Cardinals abilities. In this manner he can keep up the underdog mentality of “us against the world” that has served us so well since his arrival. It’s the only logical reason for year after year of “the Cardinals are going to stink this year”.

"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."

by pthesz on Jul 12, 2010 11:05 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Lol, +1

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly

by Jesse Reynolds on Jul 13, 2010 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

That would be amazing if true

Whiz has a way of gettin the players hyped up anyway. Even Warner called out the national media last year.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 13, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

ok, pthesz

or should I say….Al Gore?

by badmatty53 on Jul 14, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

HEY!

I didn’t say the Whiz had anything to do with the internet OR global warming, although on further consideration ….

"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."

by pthesz on Jul 14, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Props

ON the theory….out of them all I’m going with Hayes as the most underrated LB in the whole league…Twice a year the man keeps gore and jackson relatively quiet…you mentioned peterson last year…He is a force when it comes to the run, but yet Dansby this Dansby that…I’m gonna have to go back and look, but wasnt Hayes more effective on the blitz than Dansby? Can anyone refresh me so I dont waste an hour

by Cardsfan928 on Jul 13, 2010 12:02 AM MDT reply actions  

This article needs to be rec'd

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 13, 2010 2:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Done

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Jul 13, 2010 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I want to know which two picked "other"

and which players they were thinking. Hightower?

by AlaskanCard on Jul 13, 2010 5:43 PM MDT reply actions  

I did I think there are others who are underrated

Doucet is underrated as well as some newcommers this season (Porter, Rhodes, and Anderson) also some of our backups/possible starters are too underrated Toler, Adams, and Johnson. All these players have had great games the newcomers still have a lot left in the tank I mean they are getting discredited before the step on the field.

We love proving people wrong Three Years as NFC West Champs!

by AZcardinals480 on Jul 13, 2010 8:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair

A lot of those guys haven’t played very much so the underrated label may fit them.

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 13, 2010 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

That was kinda my thought

We haven’t seen a lot of out of these guys, if anything (on our team at least). I think Doucet and Toler have a lot of potential, but until they live up to it, I don’t think they’re underrated.

by AlaskanCard on Jul 13, 2010 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually I was thinking

putting “The Entire Team” as an opition, but I knew that would get all the votes, haha.

by AlaskanCard on Jul 14, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's a close race

What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 14, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

hightower...

will also have an amazing year in the same way Bush did at USC…which will let Beanie blow away everyone…leaving Fitz wide open for easy touch downs!

by Punisher3190 on Jul 14, 2010 12:35 PM MDT reply actions  

If Hayes wouldn't have been injured

I beleive we would have had a completely different post season last year

by badmatty53 on Jul 14, 2010 1:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Had to go with Hayes

because he’s been underrated for the longest. Graham had a breakout season and was consistent before that yes. But Hayes has always been an elite run stopper and underrated teammate.

by cardsfanforlife24 on Jul 14, 2010 9:23 PM MDT reply actions  

Hayes All The Way

They shouldn’t even rate Kickers or Punters, let alone list one as being underrated. Those two positions have players who are dime-a-dozen and just need streaks of luck and clutch performances to keep their job. I’ll admit I’m a Graham fan and of the Aussie Football League, but Hayes has been the center of our D for years and isn’t recognized. A solid veteran who will bring leadership and consistency every Sunday. Breaston is my other vote, give the man credit for a 1,000 yard season

by cardinalbrown on Jul 16, 2010 11:44 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree with you about

Hayes and Breaston, but you have to admit that Graham has played amazing football for us. The field position he sticks other teams with helps us win games. Even if he is “just a punter” no one gives him credit for being one of the best punters in the NFL. 42 punts inside the 20, an NFL record, is nothing to sniff at.

by AlaskanCard on Jul 17, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

AK cards fan now in NC

Leinart will show everyone he is a great quarterback. Just sit back and watch as he gets a few quarters under his belt. He was just less than brilliant as a rook and second year qb, bad situation with injuries and a few letdowns on defense kept him from remaining starter and getting the accolades he deserved. compare his early stats with the likes of other now great past qb’s and you will see very comparable numbers and in many cases superior ones

by nc cards fan on Jul 20, 2010 8:44 PM MDT reply actions  

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