NFL Network Analyst Jamie Dukes Says Cardinals Will Be Third In NFC West
by Andrew602 on Jul 14, 2010 6:00 AM MDT
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I would actually put them[Seattle] in that number two slot because of Matt Hasselbeck and hopefully for his sake, he can actually play and play back to the level that we've seen him play. I would say number one - probably leaning San Francisco.Two big pieces missing in Arizona that pushed them to three for me - one, obviously is Kurt Warner but also Anquan Boldin - gone. So therefore there are two major offensive pieces that they've been very successful with that are not there.The uncertainty at the quarterback position for me, I can't say that Matt - uh, drawin' a blank(snaps finger), uh the quarterback from - Derek no, [can't say that]Derek Anderson would be the answer or Matt Leinart would be the answer. I just can't say that either one of those guys would be the answer right now.
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He's a
TOOL
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly
The troll of NFL Network
Just like Jason Cole is the troll of Yahoo Sports.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Seriously though, does anyone ever hear him say anything good about the Cardinals?
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Former Employer...
He must be a disgruntled ex employee…Maybe the commish should realize dukes b lows…and may be the reason NFL network is nowhere near as popular as it should be
If you didn't need to get a more expensive cable package to watch it NFL Network would be more popular.
My cable stops ONE ******* CHANNEL before NFL Network! I wish I had it.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Wow what a tease
I frequently watch NFL Network. Even if they often overlook the Cardinals is the only way to watch football stuff year round.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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I want to be able to watch some of the Thursday games without having to go online.
And like I have said before… my connection cuts out on me a lot. Especially during videos.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Dukes is a buffoon, plain and simple. He never received much love or attention out of college, worked his way to success on the field….but has a lot of spite and jealousy for those he deems “had it easy” Dukes was making excuses for Jamarcus Russell and how misunderstood he was. I can assure you, Dukes knows who Matt is, and he knows his last name. Appreciate the player you became Dukes, and stop resenting those that were successes from the moment they stepped on the field in HS and college.
No one should ever defend Jamarcus Russell
No one…
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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by Andrew602 on Jul 14, 2010 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't worry, with how he is ******* away his money
He will be bankrupt within a year or two and doing things that will make him even more unlikable.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Nice wand
What the hell is this, and where did you find it, Joe? Too funny.
I saw someone post it on a message board a while back, and I just type "JaMarcus Cape" into Google whenever I want to post it somewhere.
It is supposed to be some Mardi Gras thing.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I can't believe Marshall Faulk
hasn’t punched this guy yet. He always has to have his giant mouth goin. He never lets Marshall finish before he starts spewing his rediculous opinions. I think Rich Eisen has been the only NFL network guy thats even close to being fair to the Cardinals
Oh he interrupts everyone
I remember when Jim Mora Jr was on the show and he was getting pissed off at Dukes for interrupting him.
I would add Charles Davis to that list. He’s high on the Cardinals and actually responded to Dukes this episode by saying Doucet will be good this season and that the Cardinals would slug it out for number one with the 49ers.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Totally agree with you andrew, Davis is the only one on that network that treats the Card’s fairly. I just change the channel when ever they’re about to go to Jamie Dukes, hes not worth watching. I actually can not believe the things he says. THIRD!!! No one in our division (including us) has an amazing QB, and the 9ers are far from decent as well. Does this moron really think that Alex Smith will lead this team to the playoffs?
not worth it guys, hes not worth it.
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Dukes' analysis: as bad as his ties
Everybody gets we’re missing pieces, but we’ve put so many guys in positions to succeed that I don’t quite get this…
I can't argue...
I really think that he has it right about SF, the division is theirs to lose this year. Plus I think the Seahawks might surprise a few teams and pick up some upset wins.
obviously...
a 49er fan would agree, but realistically the division is going to be closely contested between the cards and 49ers, even if the seahawks greatly improve they will be a couple of seasons away from being the #2 team in the division.
as for the negativity coming from Jamie Dukes, i suspect its just him cheer leading for the more popular teams in the division as is expected… never expect any serious analysis from the NFL network.
How can it be the 49ers division to lose when the Cardinals have won it the last two years?
I don’t understand that reasoning. Maybe they are the favorite, bu they still have a lot of unknown pieces just like the Cardinals.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Yep
Niners elite players in the NFL:
Gore, Willis, Davis.
Cardinals elite players in the NFL:
Fitzgerald, Wilson, DRC, Dockett, Rhodes, Porter
How can a team who hasnt seen a championship since 02, coincidently the same time the Cards joined the NFC WEST, claim to be the better team with less of the NFL’s elite wearing the red and gold.
by fansincejakenrob on Jul 14, 2010 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions
What an idiot.
How do you not know leinart’s name he has been one of the most talked about players this offseason. if he really doesnt know his name and isnt just doing it to diss him then he obviously doesnt follow football anymore and thus all his statements are nothing but bs.
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Jul 14, 2010 4:18 PM MDT reply actions
It could be subconsciously that he just doesn't care and his brain slipped the name.
Which still isn’t a good thing.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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I believe there is a healthy competition at the QB position in Arizona. The one who starts better get some wins, because there is a back up ready to go.
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Come on guys I think we're being a little hard on Dukes..
just keep in mind the guy fills NFL Network’s government quota for ‘special’ employees and fights Down’s Syndrome everyday. It’s an accomplishment in and of itself that he doesn’t shit his pants every time the camera is rolling.
You know what, I take it back, saying that is an insult to people who truly have Down’s Syndrome. F*** Jamie – uhhh, drawing a blank [snaps fingers] uh, that commentator from ESPN…. no.. uhhh, oh yeah! Fuck Jamie Dukes!
by cardsfanforlife24 on Jul 14, 2010 9:35 PM MDT reply actions
Just a thought...
I wouldn’t say Smith and Leinart’s situations are as similar as one might think. If they are, it has to be known that Smith has a clear edge on him in that we’re seen much better play from Smith in the time we’ve had.
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Clear edge?
If you’re going to look at that one aspect than sure Smith has an edge.
If you’re going to take intangibles into account, Leinart has a clear edge. Years to learn from a future Hall of Fame QB, arguably the best wide receiver in the league with an emerging running game (which Smith has had the luxury of virtually his whole career whereas Leinart hasn’t had a chance with any kind of running game), one of the best young offensive minded coaches in the league in Whisenhunt, and a gelling O-line even though they’ve been jumbled around the only real new face is Faneca who I really doubt will have trouble getting acclimated.
Random comment but I guess if you’re going to take half of a meaningless season (already out of playoff contention) and put a positive spin on it then yeah Smith has the ‘edge’.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Jul 14, 2010 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions
In all fairness
Smith does have more experience, and the only real good year we have seen out of Leinart was his rookie year. Even though Smith’s stats weren’t anything eye popping, he showed that he can be at least an average starting QB. Although looking back on how Leinart was able to have a decent year with an awful O-Line, no running game, Bryant Johnson, and Fitz missing a couple of games does give you hope.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I hate...
how alot of peole are using the end of last season as a bench mark for smiths talents. I mean I am hearing alot of ppl saying that smithed pulled it together at the end of last season so he will be fine this year and will be a good qb where as leinart wont. The games that these people are talking about when they say end of season were against the lions and rams two horrid teams so how can you say he pulled it together if he didnt play against a good team. Now mind you he might have actually developed into a good qb but i still think he is question mark until he proves he can perform well against good teams and do it consistently.
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Jul 15, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Right, that's what I'm saying. If Smith does have an "edge" it's very little
People are predicting 13-14 win seasons for the 49ers. That’s crazy considering Smith didn’t even play the whole year. We’ll see when more pressure is on Smith’s shoulders.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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Nobody is really predicting that.
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I've seen that record predicted before.
Maybe not on NN, but other sites.
What? I didn't break it, I was just testing its durability, and then I placed it in the woods becuase it's made out of wood and I just thought he should be with his family.
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I should have italicized 'really'.
I think it’s in very few peoples’ minds. If there’s a portion of the 49ers fanbase predicting that, it’s got to be no larger than 2%, friend.
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It's only a small edge.
And it wasn’t just “the end of last season”. It was a majority of last season in which he played better than many quarterbacks in the league. That’s all we have to base it on. Add that to the team getting better and continuity, and what do you have?
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Since you changed your wording
from ‘clear edge’ to ‘small edge’ I’ll agree with you Ninjames. Sorry but your first post just sounded to me like you were saying he’s a whole lot better off than Leinart. In my opinion they both still have a lot to prove. Even if he played well an 8-8 record is only a building block (but a good one), we’d know since that’s where we started with Whiz.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Jul 15, 2010 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions
When Smith started last season they were 5-5
And I would agree that if Smith has an edge, it isn’t as big as some of the pundits are making it look.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Nah man.
I’d take Smith every time over Leinart, but I’m not going to fool myself into putting all my trust into the guy, ya know?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
You guys bang on Dukes but....
He is right, if Hasselback stays healthy, Seattle has a great opportunity to finish second. It doesn’t mean that they will, nor does it mean that the Niners have won the Division already either. It is all opinions, nothing matters until you play the games. On paper, Manning and his Colts have won the Superbowl, so why play the season? Beacause of the upsets….like all the whinners on here….Dukes is just giving his opinion, one that could come true, but is not written in stone. Relax a bit….
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