Extending the NFL Season from 16 games to 18 games. Good idea, or bad idea?
Since I do not know if we have really talked about this yet, and there is still about 30 days until Training Camp starts up again and we aren't getting much news around here anyway besides the same stories about Leinart being a bust who won't even will 5 or 6 games in 2010 day in and day out.
So, here is something to discuss, and if you want to read of on some of the debate, ESPN has two of their bloggers debating it on the home page. And now I'll argue my case.
I, like most of us would love to see more Football. But the thing I am most worried about with the "Expanded Season" is that the quality of the games we see on Sundays will go down, and that by the time the Season ends there will be a ton of backups taking over for the Starters who have broken down, and the Playoffs will also suffer because of that.
Along with that, even though Preseason games can be boring, I don't think taking out two of them is a good idea. We have seen over the last couple of years how important those games are, and over the last couple of years we have seen long shots making the roster by how they played in the Preseason, like LaRod Stephens-Howling's [7th Round Draft Pick] impressive game returning kicks against the Chargers, or Reggie Walker [Undrafted Free Agent] against the Broncos. Some people may say that it is just watching vanilla game plans where teams aren't even trying to win and a bunch of people who won't even make the team will be on the field most of the time, but it is very important for evaluating your players along with shaking off the rust from all of the people that will be the starters during the Regular Season, and two games may not be enough for that.
Several of the statistical records would also become meaningless, which albeit a minor thing is important to me since I look at the 16 game records as the real ones and they would be broken every year after this. With all of the rule changes some passing records are not as impressive anymore, but Dan Marino throwing for 5,000 yards in the 80s has stuck, and with an 18 game season that record would be broken every year. Chris Johnson rushing for 2,000 yards is also special, but it will also become a lot easier to do.
I think that the setup the NFL has now is perfect, 16 games that all mean something along with the 4 Preseaon games. Even though people will get injured and worn out during the season, 16 games is enough games to get them through the season relatively healthy, and expanding it will just provide so many more opportunities to get hurt [and like the article I posted said, there are already a few people that are gone for the entire season, that number would skyrocket with 2 more games]. Lets be honest, this is nothing more than an attempt for the NFL to make more money by saying that the "fans" want more meaningful games and the Season Ticket Holders don't want to pay for the Preseason games even though the NFL forces Season Ticket holders to buy Preseason tickets with that package. If they merely made the Season Ticket package only include the Regular Season, or have an option to get Preseason tickets with it their argument would become moot. This is a money grab that would do nothing but mess up what is already a great 16 weeks of Football.
So, what does everyone else here think about this idea that Goodell has?
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what i love about NFL over other professional sports
Is how just about every game is a must-win. Adding 1 or 2 more games demeans the importance of the other 16. I don’t see why the commish needs annual “fixes” to things that aren’t broken. The only thing broken is that full price ticket to an exhibition game. If the NFL really insists on increasing revenue by adding more games, why not just add one more bye week? As much as I hate my team’s bye week.
I'd be fine with an extra bye week.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Jul 2, 2010 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean just an extra bye week on the 16 game season by the way.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
When guys like
Ray Lewis and Tom Brady don’t support an 18-game season, you know the league is really off-base on this idea.
They should listen to the Players.
They are the ones putting their bodies on the line so Goodell and all of these other owners can make their money.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Kind of ironic
that they claim to be interested in knowing more about the effects of concussions but then come up with this idea…
They know what they are putting their bodys through
a player can go 16 games without getting hurt and others can’t get out of OTA’s without getting hurt. Injury’s are apart of the game. Its all going to come down to money and if the owners or going to pay the players for more games.
Remember no matter where you go in life...there you are!
by McCards010 on Jul 2, 2010 11:51 PM MDT reply actions
I'm surprised its dead even like this so far.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Good points.
I just hate preseason, though I admit, mostly because I hate waiting for the “real action.”
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly
Now I'm getting mad that my side is losing...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Would anyone else laugh if the teams started using the last two weeks to rest their starters?
If it did become an 18 game season?
I know I would laugh about Goodell’s plan being ruined.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
And the best teams in the league
will end up resting towards the end. It will just be 2 to 4 games instead of 1 to 2
Remember no matter where you go in life...there you are!
by McCards010 on Jul 3, 2010 11:06 AM MDT reply actions
Yeah
And that is exactly what Goodell said he wanted to stop around the time the Colts did that last season. But with 18 games and teams that can wrap up their division early, you might wind up with 4 games being played by that team that are COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. Do the fans want to see that? No, all anyone is saying is “yeah we want more Football!” without thinking of the other factors.
Such as how important the Preseason is for evaluating players, if teams will start resting players earlier than they already do, injuries, the possibility of the games not being as good because of how worn out everyone will be.
Don’t do it Goodell! All of the rule changes you have put in to make it easier for the offense to do whatever it wants to do, getting rid of celebrations, and now this? Someone please fire this guy.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Schedule
They are trying to change the schedule and putting more league games and important games at the end of the season to force competition.
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly
by Jesse Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions
That still might not stop them.
Say that the Cardinals have the division locked up, they have a guaranteed spot in the playoffs. But their last two games are against the Seahawks and the Rams [or another NFC team], and at that point both of them are under .500 and pose no threat to you. Nothing is stopping the Cardinals from resting a bunch of players and turning it into a glorified Preseason game like that debacle against the Packers last season.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
pretty insane
to think that we paid about $600 grand total for utterly meaningless games. 2 seats, $100 tickets, 2 pre-season games, and the packers game. Even worse is all those Packer fans (snowbirds) that had to buy pre-season game tickets to buy their single game ticket. That deal was for the Packers game wasn’t it?
Ray, Tom, and the NFLPA
What a load of crap…Our bodies WAAAAHHHHH….i’m cashing 300k game checks…As far as I’m concerned make it longer and let us have something to watch well into March…If these guys dont like it they dont have to play in NFL…Also as far as I’m concerned for the kind of money I throw down to enjoy the NFL let them use steroids and every other PED known to man. Would make for great entertainment.
WOW
let them use steroids and every other PED known to man. Would make for great entertainment.
Are you serious? Do you wish they continued making BLITZ too?
by fansincejakenrob on Jul 3, 2010 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow! I have a ton of a ton of a ton of things going on right now but I have to say - WhHhhaaaaaA?
Sorry Cardsfan928 but that’s nuts! Just because you get paid big dollars doesn’t mean your health should be more so prone to abuse. The roids and ped part is a nightmare I hope to never encounter. The game of football is something I truly truly love and would never want it spoiled with that kind of disregard for the purity of the sport is irreplaceable to me. If the NFL came to what you described I’d sooner watch 7-10 year old kids battling on the gridiron.
HardHat: “Those 7 year old kids could still throw the ball farther than that noodle armed bum Matty Boi! Hahahahaha!”
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I say
I say give them one more game just one and have three preseason games enough games to show if a certian player is consistant or not then through time see if they can play more I say take baby steps…..
My thoughts too, plus make the extra game an international game with a bye week following the trip.it.
That way Goodell and his boys get the international exposure, tv money, and extra revenue while the players (and fans) get a fun experience and an extra week to mend as well.
When you've got teams like Buffalo last year, pretty much calling it a season by the halfway point due to massive injuries everywhere
I can’t really support this idea. It makes the bad teams look even worse, and puts more pressure on the good teams to stay healthy. It wouldn’t necessarily be a good thing for the fans: if your team is totally out of the running early on, the rest of the season begins to look pretty dull.
I think the preseason is set up just about pitch-perfect. Think about us last year — even with 4 preseason games, we still came out of the gate with a serious offensive limp. Rookie evaluation is an excellent point — with only two games to play in the preseason, there’s going to be a push to play starters for more quarters, to make sure they’re ready to go. This means less time to see what some of the new guys can do (and let’s face it, a lot of guys don’t really shine until they hit the field for real, and vice versa) and even more strain on the starters.
I say keep 4 preseason games, either way. Having every game available to watch on the NFL Network is awesome, and they’re a valuable tool for coaches. I’m biased here, because I really enjoy getting to see what the new guys can do (and it’s the only 4-week-in-a-row span that I can watch Cards ball), but I still think they’re worth keeping around. If we’re going to 18 games, enforce a limit on the number of snaps players are allowed to play in the preseason games — no player may exceed more than 1/2 or 1/3 of the team’s offensive or defensive snaps. It might reduce the excitement & tension of the games even more, but it’d help balance out durability concerns a little bit and I would guess that it wouldn’t actually change a team’s game plan for the preseason that much anyway. I doubt many players see more than 50% in the preseason as is, this would just help keep tabs on that. A second bye week is also worth considering.
Finally, if they’re going to do it, get rid of the wild card round. With two more games it really shouldn’t be necessary. Maybe make the two new games flexible. Reschedule them so they’re against divisional opponents in instances that are close (Cards would end every year against the’ 9ers and Falcons lol).
I just hope that the league gets off its ass and works out a new CBA! If they don’t, the market will shrink, and 16-games vs. 18-games won’t even be an issue.
by tw3kr on Jul 3, 2010 2:12 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Gladly....
Take the beating for the coin they get…

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