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Thoughts After Arizona Cardinals Deal CB Jorrick Calvin To Philadelphia Eagles

After starting fullback Nehemiah Broughton blew out his knee in Saturday's win over the Chicago Bears, the Cardinals frantically made a move to fix the situation. With Reagan Ma'ui as the only active fullback, they sent sixth round draft pick Jorrick Calvin to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for their sixth round pick, fullback Charles Scott . The move was surprising considering the Cardinals are in desperate need of good play in the secondary. 

Was the move right? Will it have implications in the secondary? Is a fullback needed that much to deal a draft pick away? All of those questions come to mind -- my mind at least. Calvin possessed the same potential that star cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie did entering the league, as well as corner Greg Toler. Apparently after three preseason games, the team had witnessed enough. 

Calvin will continue his career in Philadelphia. He could become a star, a solid role-player, or eventually turn into a nobody. That's not the part that bothers me. I am concerned, seeing how a player that was expected to make the 53-man roster is no longer with the team. This could however, suggest that the front office and coaching staff isn't as worried about the secondary as we all are. 

Rodgers-Cromartie and Toler are the inevitable starters -- at least I still believe. That leaves Justin Miller, Trumaine McBride, Michael Adams, and Marshay Green as the most-likely depth behind the starters. Miller has proven to be a solid return man, which may just seal his roster spot. McBride and Adams provide quality depth, but I would be worried if they had to start at any point during the regular season. Green has shown flashes of brilliance and he also can return the football. The same weakness along the roster could come to surprise many.

Charles Scott will provide relief at fullback, and he's versatile enough to take snaps at running back as well. At 6-1, 234-pounds, Scott was a running back at LSU where he compiled 2,317 rushing yards and 32 touchdowns during his collegiate career. Scott was picked one slot before Calvin in this years draft and has only carried the ball once this preseason. 

Seeing how the fullback is a dying position, it is interesting that the Cardinals scrambled to find one shortly after Broughton went down on Saturday. It does suggest what we've all thought so far -- that the offense will be more run-oriented. It also suggests that former Cardinals' fullbacks Terrelle Smith and Dan Kreider were not in the Cardinals future plans. Regardless of my thoughts, I will however continue to support the decisions made by the Cardinals front office and hope that Calvin truly was not needed. 

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I was surprised because I thought we had a TE that could play that role.
Also, I though Michael Adams looked good versus Da Bears.

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by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 30, 2010 6:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Pasch said that his only problem is that he is 4 inches too short.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Aug 30, 2010 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably the biggest negative against Adams

Most WR’s in the nfl nowadays are over 6’ 2 I believe Adams is only 5’9. no matter how athletic he is, he’s gonna have a hard time out jumping anybody

by Dem_Cardz on Aug 30, 2010 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why the slot is the perfect place for him, not many jump balls in the middle.

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by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 30, 2010 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Calvin was pretty much a no show so far

I think his name was called once in the games so far

by Dem_Cardz on Aug 30, 2010 6:13 PM MDT reply actions  

My thoughts on the trade.

I Calvin would have been cut anyway. The trade just expedited his departure. As for Scott. He is nothing more than a camp body until the next roster cut downs. We will more than likely sign an upgrade at that point. No loss either way.

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by hevchv on Aug 30, 2010 6:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Marshay Green seemed to fill the role Calvin to.

Better to get something for him, especially at a position with a need, than just cut him a week from now.

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by Greg Esposito on Aug 30, 2010 6:35 PM MDT reply actions  

After this season

Tim Hightower will be converted to fullback. Just like with earnest graham and the buccaneers.

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by blank_38 on Aug 30, 2010 6:38 PM MDT reply actions  

I was waiting for the laughter to start.

Did I miss something?

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by hevchv on Aug 30, 2010 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

A 6 for a 6. It's an even deal.

Calvin had a lot of competition at corner. It’s unlikely he would surpass McBride and Adams. Toler will end up the starter. So between Green, Miller and Calvin there were going to be casualties anyway. Better to get someone in at a position of need, even if they don’t stick long.

by hadrarius on Aug 30, 2010 6:43 PM MDT reply actions  

234 seems small for a fullback to me

If you are looking for a guy that can blow up linebackers anyway. Am I missing something?
I don’t think Calvin was making the cut either so I’m not worried about the trade, just the effectiveness of Scott.

by Birdman from Mesa on Aug 30, 2010 7:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Seems small to me too.

The rookie pittsburgh picked up looked like a monster vs Denver sunday night. 238 would look slim next to that guy.

by hadrarius on Aug 30, 2010 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see Dockett line up at fullback just once. He'd be a huge beast and entertaining.

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by Greg Esposito on Aug 30, 2010 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's a goal-line kind of trick

As for Scott, I’m trying to keep an open mind. Philadelphia soured on him quickly, it sounds like, and he hasn’t really gotten any opportunities. Let’s see him on the field for ourselves first.

He’s not going to look like Maui’a out there, but Maui’a doesn’t seem to know how to use his mass. He doesn’t do a good job securing his block, just kind of bumps into defenders rather than bowling them over or moving them out of the hole.

by tw3kr on Aug 30, 2010 8:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

DD on O

Didn’t he play offense once last year?

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by pthesz on Aug 31, 2010 2:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yup

He lined up at FB. Apparently Greg missed the game =)

by tw3kr on Aug 31, 2010 4:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

I knew the idea sounded too good to be my own

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by Greg Esposito on Aug 31, 2010 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Probably a good move

I never liked this pick. It didn’t make sense to me. It was like we knew we needed a corner, and instead of taking one in earlier rounds, we made this selection. I was hoping he would prove the brain-trust to be geniuses, but I didn’t see anything of him.

This looks more and more like the Eagles and Cards thinking “we can coach that guy”…….

by Cardzfan on Aug 30, 2010 8:42 PM MDT reply actions  

Here is the #1 thing y'all should know about Charles Scott...

Note the part shaded red:

That should be refreshing, right?

I’m glad the Cardinals are giving CS an opportunity… The Eagles were hell-bent on not giving the guy a proper chance. I’ve been trying to figure out why Philly would draft a one-cut power RB with <30 career receptions… and then proceed to basically slap him in the face by giving him ONE pre-season hand-off because he’s just not as big a receiving threat out of the backfield for their liking. DUMB.

This guy is hard working and relentless on the field and exemplifies “high-character” off of it. Now add “chip on shoulder” to his attributes…. Give him a little time to learn the Offense and this could be VERY fortuitous for everyone involved.

It's an ankle bracelet, not a halo....

by yurintroubl on Aug 30, 2010 11:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Nice Stats

That’s a lotta carries with no fumbles. Again, the only question is can he pull FB duty at his weight?

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by pthesz on Aug 31, 2010 2:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think he's up to around 238 right now. For a guy that's a hair under 6' tall - he's pretty stout.

There are a bunch of quality NFL FBs hovering in that 5’11-6’1’’ 230-245 lb range. If he puts on another 4lbs to 242 – he’d look better on paper for those who aren’t familiar with him… but his ability to play the position will not hinge on that measurement.

Here’s some “get to know ya” video for Chuck the Truck….

and another that’s kinda the same, but different. :D

I think that Wisenhunt is going to LOVE Scott’s work ethic… and that will in turn fuel CS’s drive to want to produce for this coach and this team. I’ve got my fingers crossed.

It's an ankle bracelet, not a halo....

by yurintroubl on Aug 31, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice post, thanks.

Paints an interesting picture doesn’t it. Still looks more like a RB than a FB to me.

by Birdman from Mesa on Aug 31, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hightower had the same zero fumble stat in college...with even more carries

and he hasn’t exactly been the kept the rock locked away in a chastity belt so far in the nfl.

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by AJ BirdWatcher on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

May I remind you that Hightower played for Richmond... On the other hand -

Scott was playing in the SEC and getting hit by NFL-caliber players on a weekly basis. They should make the zeroes on Hightower’s stat sheet smaller than the ones on Scott’s to compensate. :D

It's an ankle bracelet, not a halo....

by yurintroubl on Aug 31, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

but 400+ collegiate carries without a fumble is an impressive stat no matter what caliber guys are hitting you and trying to strip the ball away on a weekly basis.

On that note…maybe Charles Scott from the Godly SEC will himself become an “NFL-caliber player” someday.

Section 135, Row 35

by AJ BirdWatcher on Aug 31, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

So you went to a small school, did ya?

I was stating the fact that there are a helluva lot more NFL players coming out of the SEC than the CAA… No need to get snarky.

It's an ankle bracelet, not a halo....

by yurintroubl on Aug 31, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

That stat just isn't true

It kept surfacing over at the Eagles board too, and it’s just not true. I have no idea why, they aren’t recording the fumbles, but I assure you, he had fumbles in college.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 1, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

secondary is more than fine...Calvin wasn't even going to make the

practice squad. A fullback has a shot if he can open a nice hole up on thur.

by Punisher3190 on Aug 31, 2010 9:42 AM MDT reply actions  

Charles Scott

wasn’t going to make our 53 man roster, and Calvin has a VERY slim chance of doing so as well. We basically swapped PS talent. Nothing to see here.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 1, 2010 10:35 AM MDT reply actions  

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